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Thought this was interesting.
http://wccftech.com/htc-flyer-receive-honeycomb-32-update-august/
The blogger cites the source from:
http://www.175wan.com/article-190-1.html
Pretty interesting... we'll see how long it really takes, but seems to be in the works... hopefully with an unlocked bootloader... though it seems we're getting close on the rooting front.
Nice find! Hope this is indeed true.
I hope ....
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i hope, but the first link doesn't have any official source and the second....difficult to read (Chinese)....
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Google translate ftw. Still kinda hard to read but youll get the main idea at least lol
Yea, yea, but when will the pen SDK be released? That's the real big one.
Hard to find, but the link to the source is just above the comments.
I thought the pen SDK was released already... Shortly after the release of the Flyer.
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I thought the pen SDK was released already... Shortly after the release of the Flyer.
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Nope still waiting for htc to release it. They are pretty busy right now trying to figure out how to make an ota that will unlock the bootloaders ha.
and at the same time, HTC announced they are releasing the Flyer's source code! interesting time ahead of us. I can't wait
h$$p://developer.htc.com/
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and at the same time, HTC announced they are releasing the Flyer's source code!
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They announced only to publish the kernel source and it's there (second row at 19/7)
Honeycomb is something I have been expecting.
I may be in the minority here, but are there anyone else NOT that excited about Honeycomb upgrade? I also have a Honeycomb device (Asus Transformer) and Flyer is tons more reliable than Transformer. I have hardly seen any crashes or force close on my Flyer, while on the Transformer it is very frequent.
Granted, HTC most likely have done extensive research and testing to make sure Honeycomb is stable enough for the Flyer, but many would agree that Honeycomb is more of an exercise for Google, and the real tablet OS is the forthcoming ICS.
I dread the impending upgrade to HC rendering the Flyer into a crash prone nutjob as other HC devices. Hopefully my fear is unfounded and I will be proved wrong.
I have found alot of talk on alot of different sites about the upgrade to Honeycomb on the Flyer but I don't have a Flyer. I have a Evo View 4g, so what about us? Are we entitled to the same upgrade? I am glad that the Flyer is getting upgraded to Honeycomb but I am curious, are we (Evo View 4g owners) are included.
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I have found alot of talk on alot of different sites about the upgrade to Honeycomb on the Flyer but I don't have a Flyer. I have a Evo View 4g, so what about us? Are we entitled to the same upgrade? I am glad that the Flyer is getting upgraded to Honeycomb but I am curious, are we (Evo View 4g owners) are included.
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I almost sure they will release to "branded" versions of the device. I wouldn't worry too much.
As for looking forward to Honeycomb, I'm fine with the functionality of the current OS. With the advent of Honeycomb, I'm looking forward to the more tablet-centric and polished apps. For instance Zinio, while I've been very vocal that a larger tablet is more comfortable for magazines because they simulate the print form-factor better. It is nice to have the option to browse my magazines during lunch or during the commute. Also looking forward to Sketchbook Pro... it would be great news if they supported the pen integration, but maybe not in the first iteration.
Zinio is now available for the flyer without the need for honeycomb. Check the market for it.
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Sketch book pro is available for flyer I use it a ton
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Although I like the Flyer already a lot as it is now, I am looking forward to the honeycomb update. I hope HTC is releasing some information soon
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Sketch book pro is available for flyer I use it a ton
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is that the just released version of sketch book pro ?
i thought the announcement said it runs on honeycomb
so it also runs on the current flyer android version ?
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is that the just released version of sketch book pro ?
i thought the announcement said it runs on honeycomb
so it also runs on the current flyer android version ?
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There's a honeycomb specific version we can't get yet.
Looking on the sketchbook blog it looks like it will support pressure! Here's hoping that we see a Honeycomb update for our tablets soon!
Because the Flyer pen is HTC specific , apps need to be written specifically for it!
Don't discount HTC providing HC apps within their own firmware release for this and when the SDK is available, dev adding to that app list.
Samsung has just released the Galaxy Note.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41837/samsung-galaxy-note-ifa-tablet-phone
5.5in screen is a bit small as a tablet, large as a smartphone. I am also no fan of SS's AMOLED and build quality.
But the integrated pen capability in software is amazing (due to the SSg's video). Wonder whether we will have something like that or can get something from that on our Flyers someday.
This might be a stupid question and probably premature right now. I know that the Flyer and the Galaxy Note are completely different devices (CPU, screen, ...). Assuming that SS uses the same n-trig technology in their Note, theoretically is there any chance that we can get Note ROM running on the Flyer?
Tell myself being optimistic, I have just had my Flyer for a month. I like it very much. Hope that amazing and hardworking XDA developers will bring us a lot of extra fun in the future.
Cheers.
Edit: the Note uses Wacom technology due to Cnet.
I really like the way this samsung tablet handles pen integration. After owning my View for a bit now I'm kinda disappointed with it. The pen integration is weak and the note apps is good, not great.
I'll definitely check out this samsung tab when it comes out.
It's nice but i doubt if it can defeat my Phatpad on my old WM05 device.
I hope the application provide option to resize the Page, very annoying if you have you stuck on the screen size when you have a lot of thing to draw.
Check this http://www.pocket-lint.com/news-gallery/41855/samsung-galaxy-note-hands-on/10#image
It has handwriting recognition, bring back memories to oldschool device
Oldschool but usefull .
Wait for Honeycomb for the Flyer and we will probably have the same functionality..
Good point
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Wait for Honeycomb for the Flyer and we will probably have the same functionality..
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I forgot about their hints at a Honeycomb update, and hopefully they are keeping a close eye on what Samsung has done.
This is getting interesting. It'd be cool if the Samsung Tabs had pen support too, and I'd even consider one since I loved my OG Galaxy Tab ... But I am something of an HTC fan. Hmmmm ...
Samsung galaxy note has no n-trig digitizer. It just passive capacitive digitizer. You can just look from the photos and videos that the big line width of the character and only two words per line, telling us that it is only passive technology.
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How about a port of Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet's pen integration? Lenovo uses the same N-trig technology just like HTC Flyer. I really like how it works with Sketchbook Pro pressure sensitive option, and allows the pen to navigate around like using your finger.
I have just about given up on HTC to give me a tablet I have always wanted.
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How about a port of Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet's pen integration? Lenovo uses the same N-trig technology just like HTC Flyer. I really like how it works with Sketchbook Pro pressure sensitive option, and allows the pen to navigate around like using your finger.
I have just about given up on HTC to give me a tablet I have always wanted.
-E.J.Su
"Talent is worthless without hard work."
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In Flyer Honeycomb you can use your pen to do everything you do now with your finger, support is massively improved.
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In Flyer Honeycomb you can use your pen to do everything you do now with your finger, support is massively improved.
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That's awesome to hear, by any chance do you know if the pressure sensitive pen works on Sketchbook Pro?
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In Flyer Honeycomb you can use your pen to do everything you do now with your finger, support is massively improved.
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Amazing, that's a real update. Your comment makes my day, Paul. I am looking forward to the reviews of your leaked Flyer Honeycomb rom. Thanks a lot for sharing.
@d2ey: I still keep my Xperia X1 running WM6.5. Stylus was great in WM.
@iwansuryo: Yes, SS Note does not use ntrig. CNET said that it uses wacom (0'20": http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20100730-264/samsung-galaxy-note-hands-on/). The pen seems quite precise.
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Amazing, that's a real update. Your comment makes my day, Paul.
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+1.
This is the first revelation that actually has me eagerly looking forward to Honeycomb. Up to now I've been like "Honeycomb... meh."
15 screen shots of the Honeycomb Flyer from thisismynext & Paul:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/05/h...e-screenshots/
Waiting for reviews on the pen performance.
Video of HC rom from Neaw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFQ3HWGfRc&feature=youtu.be
This is what we can expect from the official Honeycomb Flyer - HTC Jetstream review (pen from 27'): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEsAjyYDTbU
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How about a port of Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet's pen integration? Lenovo uses the same N-trig technology just like HTC Flyer. I really like how it works with Sketchbook Pro pressure sensitive option, and allows the pen to navigate around like using your finger.
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Sketchbook works on the Jetstream (see the video) so it should work with the Flyer too. I hope that pressure sensitivity will work. since the sketchbook can recognize pressure sensitivity of the Thinkpad pen, very probable that it should behave the same with the Flyer pen.
I'm really interested into the flyer, what features do you miss on this tablet? I would use it for the university and I'm doubting between the trio flyer-jetstream-thinkpad
Hi to all Flyer users,
I am writing this message because despite the fact that I love my Flyer and use it 24/7, I am still not using it for the very first reason that I bought it, to replace my big old tablet PC, for sketches.
When HTC announced the HTC Dev with the Scribe API not so long ago, I was very excited and I thought that we Flyer users would at last have a chance to use it for the main purpose we bought it. But no...
I just wanted to reach out to any coder who is capable of writing an app for the flyer, who understands a word of the coding for the Scribe technology out there. We as artistic Flyer users request an app to let us do sketches and drawings. I don't care at the end how expensive the app will be, because I am pretty sure that the first sketching app made for the Flyer will be bought by many people regardless the price.
If you are a developer who can write such an app, do it soon, because you are going to make lots of money, I'm sure.
I hope nobody finds this message in anyway rude or offensive, it is just that I really want to get full use of my Flyer and since HTC is doing nothing about it so far, XDA community is the only place I know that I can request such a thing.
Thanks to everyone in advance and thanks for understanding.
// I don't if this is even relevant but HTC has uploaded some codes in the HTC Dev website with screenshots of a drawing app, maybe if only those codes are used to make an app //
I feel your pain. I picked up the Flyer for the same reason, unfortunately, it fell short on that one area. The guy that wrote Fresco tried to integrate the pen function, but it hasn't worked.
The good news is, the Honeycomb update supposedly works the same way the finger touch does. Sketchbook Pro supports pressure sensitive pen, I am hoping HTC's pen works in Sketchbook Pro.
I know Fresco and I even tried to help Sean during this process. I respect him for being the only one out there, and doing what HTC is yet to do.
Are you sure that sketchbook has stylus compatibility, pressure sensitivity?
I have just read that the stylus works as a finger does on honeycomb but that does not mean that we will be able to use the pen options (width, pen type, color) still.
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No, I wasn't sure. I was hoping.
I just flashed Honeycomb myself and tried it for myself. I was not able to find Sketchbook Pro in the market so I tried the Express instead, you may or may not know, it doesn't have that pressure sensitive like the Pro version. Express won't even recognize the strokes. I then tried the Mobile version, this version works fine, but no pressure sensitive option.
So the result is still inconclusive until I actually try the pro version. At least right now I've got a precise pen with better color choices.
I'll still try to figure out how to put SB pro in my new Honeycomb Flyer.
In case you didn't know, Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet pen does have pressure sensitive in SB Pro, and it also use N-Trig pen like the Flyer.
[UPDATE] I had to side load Sketchbook Pro. It doesn't work.
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Hi everyone. I thought I'd add my agreement to this thread. I sent a message/request to HTC the other day asking for them to seriously consider doing some collaborative work with a leading company such as Autodesk so the Flyer can be what all of us who bought it for; that we should have access to a drawing/sketching /design app that does the Flyer justice, not just scribbling with 5 colours etc, that the pen api should at least have a colour wheel! I went on to say that the Flyer's market would improve greatly if they allowed the pen to be used to it's full potential...
I really don't get why they would make such a lovely thing but then not bother to finish it off properly... It's like making a really beautiful car and not supplying the wheels or something silly...
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The sad fact is that there is just not enough paying demand out there for high end sketch applications. HTC was targeting business users with the pen. Users such as doctors that would prefer a high accuracy interface like a pen vs. the finger for entering larger amounts of data quickly. Of course those markets are demanding and complex and won't tolerate a half finished product like HTC's. Professional users want a turnkey system, not something they have to fiddle with to get to kind-of-work. S0 the Pen on HTC has turned out to be more of a novelty than a useful tool, which is sad because it has great potential and I love it for taking notes.
HTC published the Pen SDK and Android 4.0 has native stylus support primitives so someone could realistically write an application that has pro caliber sketch functions. Probably happen later under 4.0 ICS as a port of an existing app. I just don't see enough demand for someone to write a new app.
Okay. I feel you are being the realist here. I don't know zip about Android (the flyer is my first touchscreen gizmo) and have been a Windows sucker for ever so don't know about Linux either, but how much would you think a developer would want for creating a color wheel for the stock stylus app? At least then we could draw with a decent colour range with Scribbler or even just in notes. In my ignorance, please forgive me, but the pen api sdk released by HTC would allow someone to do that wouldn't it? If I knew how I'd be on it like I don't know what...
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You would think HTC would have done such a basic feature , but they didn't.
In order to add it, you would need the source code for the current apps. HTC is not sharing that. The SDK provides primitive functions for building new applications. it does not allow you to add features to existing applications.
Sketching...
I am using Autodesk Sketchbook mobile... the sketchbook pro for android doesent work properly. I also have a Cintiq 21 to which the pressure tip is pretty nice.
as for the Flyer I have found if you select the brush tool and play with the settings you can almost get the same feel...
So no apps other then the notes app take advantage of the Pen in GB?
I'v heard that the pen is laggy in HC...
AS far as I know, only the notes app, PDF reader and browser in GB interact in some way with the pen.
Remember that the HC rom is a early beta, I have seen people have different results with the pen on HC, probably depends on what apps you have loaded. IF!!! HTC ever has a final release, I'm sure it will be much more reliable.
So there's no way really of even replacing the stock pen app - the one that pops up bottom-right, with summat better... Unless they were to release the source code for it?...
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Correct, that is part of the HTC Sense UI , its not just an app, it's tied into the Android framework.
That... sucks bum. Have HTC ever spoke of releasing the Sense UI?
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With the second HC leak, I can use Sketchbook Mobile with no issues. What I noticed that pressure sensitivity is related to the pen you choose and the images appear to be in line with how you draw. Also the repsonse is quite good, I didn't see any issues.
I'm not sure if you're a professional sketcher but I am not and the result is impressive to me.
One important note: When you use a quality protection film (preferably mat ones) the result is better. With natural screen, the fricton is too less to write accurately but with a good film, you cannot believe how the writing/drawing experience will improve.
Edit: Skitch app becomes very handy in HC too. Actually let me repeat once more: This device is much better with HC (or ICS) due to better pen support.
+1 for Sketch Book Mobile.
The it would be nice if the erase function would work, but otherwise it works great.
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With the second HC leak, I can use Sketchbook Mobile with no issues. What I noticed that pressure sensitivity is related to the pen you choose and the images appear to be in line with how you draw. Also the repsonse is quite good, I didn't see any issues.
I'm not sure if you're a professional sketcher but I am not and the result is impressive to me.
One important note: When you use a quality protection film (preferably mat ones) the result is better. With natural screen, the fricton is too less to write accurately but with a good film, you cannot believe how the writing/drawing experience will improve.
Edit: Skitch app becomes very handy in HC too. Actually let me repeat once more: This device is much better with HC (or ICS) due to better pen support.
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Let me clarify. You are saying that the pressure sensitive pen for the flyer works with sketchbook mobile on the newest HC leak, no extra development needed for the app to add the pressure sensitivity? So this means it doesn't have to use the stock colors and brushes for the native pen?
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Let me clarify. You are saying that the pressure sensitive pen for the flyer works with sketchbook mobile on the newest HC leak, no extra development needed for the app to add the pressure sensitivity? So this means it doesn't have to use the stock colors and brushes for the native pen?
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That's my observation (leak #2). When you choose broader brush, you can differantiate the pressure sensitivity better. It's also valid for the native notes where you choose the big brush.
I'm liking this... I'm no developer and therefore I really appreciate xda developers chat about this... I would like to use sketchbook mobile more with the pen and it's good that skitch works better too. Will be good to see if Fresco works too!
So then, following on... the stock pen part of the Android Sense UI becomes less used because the app itself is supported through support from HC (or ICS?), what can be done for/what good is the stock pen part of Sense UI? Is it potentially more powerful because it's native, in any way (ignorance possibly showing)? In terms of developing, what COULD the pen part of Sense UI do or be used for if it's superceded by the app's integral features? How could the pressure sensitivity of it be improved more.
Or...
Is it too late in on a Friday night for me to talk anything that's not utter trash?
Will have to get a matt screen protector by the way... Thanks for the suggestion.
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I'm liking this... I'm no developer and therefore I really appreciate xda developers chat about this... I would like to use sketchbook mobile more with the pen and it's good that skitch works better too. Will be good to see if Fresco works too!
So then, following on... the stock pen part of the Android Sense UI becomes less used because the app itself is supported through support from HC (or ICS?), what can be done for/what good is the stock pen part of Sense UI? Is it potentially more powerful because it's native, in any way (ignorance possibly showing)? In terms of developing, what COULD the pen part of Sense UI do or be used for if it's superceded by the app's integral features? How could the pressure sensitivity of it be improved more.
Or...
Is it too late in on a Friday night for me to talk anything that's not utter trash?
Will have to get a matt screen protector by the way... Thanks for the suggestion.
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This depends upon HTC. If they develop any better applications for the Flyer, we'll be able to use stock part and full pen function (like erase button).
If HTC would publish (or support a 3rd party whichsoever) a better and more professional notes (something like Quill), and a good paint/sketch app I will definitely buy them. But the question is if HTC will do that.
So, I got to play with this at best buy and I must admit, if I had 300$ to spend I might have left 300$ there at best buy and walked out with it.
This tablet was the most fun I've ever had playing on a tablet. I wasn't impressed by ipad, the galaxy s tab was cool, but not really "eye catching" in terms of being worth the price..
This sucker was smooth though.. it ran really, really smoothly. It was probably one of the coolest things I've seen.
The weird part is that I really had trouble finding a logical use for the pen. It is always nice to get more for what your purchase, but I am having trouble finding practical uses for it. I am sure if I got one I would think of more uses after the fact.
A few times I've used it to take notes. But mostly, I use it to show my friends how much better my tablet is compared to theirs. I think the latter is what HTC was going for.
I use it to quickly mark up power points and presentation notes when I do reviews at work.
So far I haven't found a use for it. Taking notes on the tablet does not appeal to me nor does drawing on screenshots.
I use it whenever I need a paper to write something on. Paperless for me. Only print it out when I really need it. Environmental friendly as well
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I use it to takes notes in my classes. I find the notes mobile app much easier to take notes with compared to the HTC notes app. Plus with honeycomb you can use the pen all throughout the tablet as apposed to only taking screenshots on gingerbread
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I use it @ work (IT) for taking notes, since we are trying to go "green" in the office, it's my "see here ya go I'm going green"...and hopefully this means that work will reimburse me for it.
I never even thought about the possibilities involving roms.
Could be loads of fun.
Hm... wonder if ICS will have anything special for pen based tabs...
I design and manufacture parts for the auto racing industry.
I use the Flyers camera to take a photo of the area I’m working on then, note the dimension on the pic with the pen.
If need be I can take several shots from different angles.
I then return to my workstation’s cad program and I have all my info at hand.
It really helps me to visualize the part I’m working on.
For making a usable quick sketch and markups. I was surprised how much I started to markup screen shots of Web pages once I got used to the idea.
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I got the pen just because it was on sale for 39.99 and I had a 10 dollar reward certificate. I'm not really sure how much I'll use it but hope with the upgrade it'll be more useful.
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Make notes when reading eBooks.
Take a picture of office maps (fire routes work great) then mark them up for new network drops and whatnot.
I've started using it in place of anything I'd have used a paper notepad for. Extra cool that the notes are ocr'd and searchable.
Maybe one day I'll get around to drawing up plot diagrams, creating story arcs, and writing a book... Too busy for that right now though.
I use it to take notes. My daughter uses it for notes and to annotate her books for her English class using the reader that came installed on the flyer.
Everything. I am a recruiter for a consulting firm and take notes on my conversations with candidates - been using evernote for a few years so its a virtual database of people now. Also in grad school and use it to mark up powerpoints and sometimes record audio or the cam to capture diagrams on whiteboards. Used it at a family get together to find a pizza place with Google maps, pull up the menu, and write down (on the menu screenshot) our complete order - easily placed the correct orders and people were like "that is awesome". A life saving feature is accessing my home machine via logmein as well. I love this thing.
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I got the pen just because it was on sale for 39.99 and I had a 10 dollar reward certificate. I'm not really sure how much I'll use it but hope with the upgrade it'll be more useful.
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Same here. I've heard a lot of good things were going to open up with the HC upgrade. I hope I'm not disappointed.
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I use it for my business and for note reason when I go on the road to sale insurance. I bring the terms and all up and underline the keypoints.
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Hello everyone. So currently I am considering getting the HTC Flyer. I can get one for around $160 USD (used but in good condition). Is it worth it? I definitely cannot afford new tablets but a used one with decent specs would do. I am about to enter college in the fall and was wondering if this tablet would be useful for this purpose, specifically because of the pen. Does the pen seem more like a gimmick or is it really useful (like with school and professional related tasks). Also, if I do get the HTC Flyer, can you all share what are great apps to make this device extra handy (apps which utilize the pen, notes and documents).
Recommended accessories would also be nice! Affordable ones that is. The pen is already sooooo expensive (IMHO) and I WANT it!!!
Is it advisable to update to HC or leave it on Android 2.3? I like the new pen features of HC but it seems HC is buggy (from what I read on this forum) and that isn't favorable when I may be taking notes in college with this thing.
I just want to get a device that would help me all round. Some entertainment here but useful in the classroom. I am on a tight budget (still have to get a laptop so please consider that)
I really appreciate everyone's time. I look forward to hearing from you all.
I purchased the flyer specifically for the pen usage and am very satisfied with it. I upgraded to honeycomb and if your main use is for the pen I suggest that you do too. I like the ability to annotate books in either epub or PDF. I like the feature in the stock notes app where you can record and your written notes are time stamped and synced with the recording and ultimately with evernote. however I don't particularly like how writing the notes are implemented (it is constantly wasting time autosaving). if you are just taking notes I would suggest using apps such as quill or papyrus (I myself prefer papyrus - it is very smooth and uses both buttons on the pen). what else I have been doing is using the voice recording app along with apps such as papyrus then exporting them together into the notes app which then seamlessly syncs with evernote (yes I know it seems tedious but I only do this if i really need the lecture recorded). the only thing that I really desire is a fully functional handwriting recognition app. I downloaded a couple of apps (thanks to Gumby) such as notes mobile. they work fairly well however my handwriting is so poor it isn't worth it. my family does much better with it so perhaps you can too.
so all in all if the flyer is in good shape for $160 I would highly recommend it. if i think of anything else to say I will let you know.
The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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just wondering which app do you use to take notes? I can see the difficulty if you are using the stock notes app (due to the constant autosaving) but apps such as papyrus are very smooth and I find note taking to be very easy and productive.
So far the stock tool and MS notes, I'll try papyrus and let you know
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@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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And the developer is legend, I mailed him a couple of times with usability issues and within 3 or 4 days the updated app was on the marketplace. There is a free version to try, give it a spin.
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@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
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I believe that the standard HTC reader app should let you annotate ebooks. I actually sideloaded an epub on my Flyer and noted that I was able to highlight and take notes on. However, it should be noted that I'm running LeeDroid for Honeycomb, so I have no idea how everything works when the unit is stock.
I initially purchased the Flyer because it was cheap and slightly more portable than my HP Touchpad (running CM9) for travel purposes (i occasionally need to run Citrix to access my company's desktop). I also preferred it over the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet due to the existence of the cameras (I skype with my grandmother in Asia). Plus, the battery life on this thing is phenomenal. The fact that I got it for about $170 just made it all the sweeter. The only downside thus far, in my opinion, is the lack of ICS. I know a lot of people have commented that it is a single core machine. Since I don't really play any games on the tablet, this is a non-issue for me.
I thought that the pen was a total gimmick and unnecessary. For most of my uses, that is true. However, I figured out that my office can send me PDF documents, which I can sign using the pen, save the signed PDF, and send it back to my office. This does not happen that often, but it's a pretty neat feature to have.
Thanks everyone for the input. I made the plunge! I know this is off topic but...the Flyer I bought doesn't include a USB cable, only the charger. Would the standard USB cable work for this for PC connection? I really do hope so. Accessories for this thing already aren't cheap!
Yes normal usb cable is fine, for accessories look on eBay is not bad eve of for genuine HTC parts.
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That's where I normally buy my accessories. I looked for the OEM cable which is a bit pricey IMHO. I will use my old USB cable! IS it slower or anything to transfer data with this cable though?
No I didn't isn't, the port is only different from mechanical point of view to prevent that you put other devices on the flyer OEM charger and damage them.... The amount of amps is just dangerous for over devices..
For example when my wife uses her ipad charger to charge her iphone the phone gets really hot and probably would be damaged if kept on to long.
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