I know it is still pretty early in the development of this device, but I thought it might be interesting to track the popularity of various developers work.
So currently which rom/kernel are you running?
Deodexed rom - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134819
pershoot's kernel - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167
bonzai - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156722
touchwiz - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162302
Still on stock but will be rooting.
A modified variant of Pershoot's kernel - I enabled the conservative governor because I'm a battery whore.
Edit: There's a deodexed ROM available somewhere???
HC 3.1 + TouchWiz by Seo
I was using Bonsai's ROM but i had some issues to unlock my tablet after a few mins idle. I'm now trying Deodexed ROM.
Running Pershoot's latest (7.12). Probably going back to stock again though. Anytime Setpcu is "OnDemand" it seems laggy. Easiest way to notice is just swiping through the home screens. Its very choppy unless its set to performance, but I don't want it runnin at 1.4 constantly (for obvious reasons). Stock kernel on "interactive" seems to run best for me. Anyone have any ideas why its choppy 'ondemand'?
Also, for those running TouchWiz.... Did it change the icons (back, home, etc.) and clock font on the bottom of the screen? I've seen some older pictures of touchwiz, and a video on youtube and it looked different. I know its a small price to pay, but I really like the look of the buttons/clock now and don't want to lose it!
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Running Pershoot's latest (7.12). Probably going back to stock again though. Anytime Setpcu is "OnDemand" it seems laggy. Easiest way to notice is just swiping through the home screens. Its very choppy unless its set to performance, but I don't want it runnin at 1.4 constantly (for obvious reasons). Stock kernel on "interactive" seems to run best for me. Anyone have any ideas why its choppy 'ondemand'?
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this is not a kernel issue.
this is a launcher issue.
it goes half framerate at various times, on HC. possibly due to GC (which causes a penalty).
the particular ondemand in the kernel set works good (it is not stock (what shipped)) and is responsive when dealing with app switching, scrolling, etc., ramping up when needed, etc. with minimal slowdown. there is still more work to do though.
i cannot fix HC's bloat. i can make the overall experience better though.
the kernel for sure is a marked improvement over stock. 'most' everyone that has been using this, has relayed this to me. i myself can def. see a difference. anyone else that hasn't, should produce logs of such slowdowns (that they feel is related to the kernel), for improvement moving forward.
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this is not a kernel issue.
this is a launcher issue...................
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Pershoot, I'd like to first say thank you and I appreciate all your efforts. I hope I didn't come across as complaining about your kernel; I know everyone has different results. Personally, I can't stand the choppiness of swiping pages on the homescreen and in the apps folder. However, in everything else, it seems to be great. For me, I had a lot of freezes with your first couple releases. So far with 7.12, I have none. Its easy to notice the difference especially because you have gotten the keyboard delay out of "browser"
I wanted to let you know of my issues (choppiness on homescreen), but I couldn't post to the developer forum yet as I was under 10 posts, which is why I posted here. I will let you if I experience any other issues (i keep going back and forth between kernels because i can't decide which tradeoff is more important)
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Pershoot, I'd like to first say thank you and I appreciate all your efforts. I hope I didn't come across as complaining about your kernel; I know everyone has different results. Personally, I can't stand the choppiness of swiping pages on the homescreen and in the apps folder. However, in everything else, it seems to be great. For me, I had a lot of freezes with your first couple releases. So far with 7.12, I have none. Its easy to notice the difference especially because you have gotten the keyboard delay out of "browser"
I wanted to let you know of my issues (choppiness on homescreen), but I couldn't post to the developer forum yet as I was under 10 posts, which is why I posted here. I will let you if I experience any other issues (i keep going back and forth between kernels because i can't decide which tradeoff is more important)
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as the releases move forward, so will the resolution of bugs and uniformity across many differing type of devices in the same class.
as for the launcher,
i wouldnt call it choppy, more so it going in slo mo and getting a lil stuck at times. you can tell its a problem with the launcher itself, because it really isnt prevalent anywhere else. also in 3.0.1, it seems to have been a bit better, in my opinion.
it def. has gotten better tho (as now its more responsive), but i cant really do much about it. its worst on stock, in my experience with it thus far. slamming the freq. speed way up to compensate, isn't really a cure for it, as it would still happen (just give the illusion of things being faster).
you can even test this for yourself, and replace the launcher with say launcher pro (for example), and then observe the results.
stock 3.1 with pershoot overclock @ 1.4 GHz. Working great and stable. Found it to be quicker than the bonsai ROM. TouchWiz ROM is def slow.
is there anyway to get the stock rom gt 7510 with the samsung app
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Also, for those running TouchWiz.... Did it change the icons (back, home, etc.) and clock font on the bottom of the screen? I've seen some older pictures of touchwiz, and a video on youtube and it looked different. I know its a small price to pay, but I really like the look of the buttons/clock now and don't want to lose it!
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Yes, Touchwiz changes to the other icons. I found them kind of dull, and prefer the stock HC ones. Though the screen capture and mini apps were cool.
thatboiparis said:
is there anyway to get the stock rom gt 7510 with the samsung app
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Yes...
3.1 official update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118132
Tools pack (i.e. stock with SU, Busybox, etc): http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=2054
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According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
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This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
Hungry Man said:
It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
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As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
Sent from my ERIS GSBv2.1 using XDA App
So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
Eris running GSBv2.1
If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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Hello everyone! I just got my 16gb wifi model a few days ago. I'm from Canada. I think it's a very nice device, I love it, but have a few questions. First I noticed that the device seems to be a little laggy sometimes, specifically when you switch apps, or when in the browser or using the keyboard? Is there any way to make this better?
I have taken the habit of using the task manager to close unused apps, is this a good thing to do? I have the feeling that mine came with stuff that I don't really need/want. For exemple, There is a ^ in the bottom bar that I always tend to open by accident, this bar open another row of icon. Also there is a screenshot icon on the bar. Is this something to do with the TouchWiz? How much clog/more memory is the touch wiz using? Maybe without it I could gain some speed. I have removed all the widgets to make things better and I use a simple wallpaper.
I'm not into flashing for now, I'm not mentally ready, is there anything else I can do to improve speed and responsiveness?
Also, I have a blackberry and I am used to receive instant notifications for facebook. Is there an equivalent app for facebook for the tab?
Thanks.
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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Do you have a link to the best rooting instructions? Also a link to OC?
Sure most guys will tell you to search, but thats not me. I'll help you out bro, np
1) how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
That is a video with a written tutorial too. That should do ya
2) OC'ing kernel
Pershoot is the one that made it. It also have a nice VooDoo integrated sound matrix ( or whatever ) and it sounds crazy good. To take advantage of it, flash his kernel and then market VooDoo and download that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167
If you have a touchwiz / WIFI rom/tablet.. Then you need to download the kernel off of his site that has TW / UX in the title of the link.
mroneeyedboh said:
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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I could not agree more with this, I just got done running benchmarks with just Task650's ROM, loading up the newest pershoot kernel now. Even with just the ROM lag is pretty much gone
Yeah Mann benchmarks don't mean much in terms of Android. But it's a good placebo for some
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
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Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
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Im not sure if I know what you mean... what do you mean on you dont understand why its is necessart to clear up the slowness problem? It is because there is soo much bloat and things misplaced. Its kinda crazy. but after you run an optimized ROM and the kernel at 1.4ghz.. its night a day..
Hie guys. I am new to SGT 10.1 and to this forum.
[Nice little introducing video btw].
I just reply to this thread not to open a new one and start asking questions over there
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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or1onz said:
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
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The overclock with help with lags. But not all of the lags are based off of speed issues. Some are code related. But in the end, yes it will speed up nicely, and be more fluid.
The heat and battery isn't really an issue. But being that all of the dev'ing going on is all new. Its a wait and see thing. But in all respects, it should be just fine.
And I haven't looked into unrooting, but I'm almost 100% positive that it can be done.
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
I actually have a question about OCing. I flashed the Starburst ROM on my tab, but no custom kernal. Is it still OK to download set CPU and crank it to 1.4ghz? (I've OCed computers 'til they cried, but never phones or tablets )
Hey there all,
I was wondering... my Tablet S device is quite sluggish, delays between swipes, opening & closing programs, typing etc.
Does anyone else have this issue?
I tried reformatting 3 or 4 times to no avail.
Latest version of the Honeycomb OTA update 3.2.1.
Also, flash on the web is ridiculously slow and causes extreme slowdown. For e.g. on the Youtube website, the flash applet itself causes lag when activated (Using Opera Mobile) and I can only watch up to 480p. Anything above that lags and is unwatchable --- I remember reading that this is due to the hardware limitations of the Tegra 2 chip.
Anyhoo,
If anyone has any ideas or just helpful tips on how to make the device run smoother, could you let me know? I bought this device two days ago and am regretting it hard atm hahah. My phone (Gala SII feels so much smoother/responsive than this tablet)
Thanks all.
Well mate I dont have any experience like that, in fact this is the smoothest experience for me yet (i have a evo 3d )
But I noticed some lag when we have a LWP in use, remove that first and try,
And that LWP lag is gone after I flashed UK FW from AiO tool by condi. maybe you should do the same
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And that LWP lag is gone after I flashed UK FW from AiO tool by condi. maybe you should do the same
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Oh?
My Tablet S is experiencing some sluggishness too.
Is the UK firmware better than the US firmware? Why did you flash it anyway?
Have you tried using an alternative launcher like ADW EX? The stock Home launcher from Sony is pretty poor. If you drag slow enough to make the preview windows appear at the top of the screen, the frame rate drops significantly. Always found the swipes incredibly responsive otherwise.
I've got a nice performance boost from rooting, then using AdFree and Overclock Widget.
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Have you tried using an alternative launcher like ADW EX? The stock Home launcher from Sony is pretty poor. If you drag slow enough to make the preview windows appear at the top of the screen, the frame rate drops significantly. Always found the swipes incredibly responsive otherwise.
I've got a nice performance boost from rooting, then using AdFree and Overclock Widget.
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So Overclock Widget does actually work on the stock kernel?
I'd been researching it, but wasn't game to try yet..
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So Overclock Widget does actually work on the stock kernel?
I'd been researching it, but wasn't game to try yet..
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Can't go above 1 Ghz, but you can set it and raise the minimum clock speed to get some more juice out of it. Might help the OP with some sluggishness during basic use.
I have no such problem at all with my tablet s wifi version, even when tethering with my iphone.
Why dont you take it back to the shop and make a complaint?
Thanks to everyone that replied with all those helpful comments.
I have tried everything, standard wallpaper. Format. Rooted.
Hmm maybe it is just my device?
BT keyboard input is really delayed for example. WiFi works due to that workaround (WiFi Locker app) I found using search, though I can't give much praise to the signal strength!
I just assumed the Tablet S was meant to be a bit sluggish (ref: CNET review and others: most say the tablet is a bit sluggish)
Ho dang, unfortunately I can't take it back for repair as I purchased it from eBay! x)
Maybe it's a hardware fault, a certain part(s) aren't working at optimum speeds/levels. I'll try taking it into a service center anyway.
Oh, and i'll try that Overclock widget!
Will report back with findings.
Thanks guys.
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Oh?
Is the UK firmware better than the US firmware? Why did you flash it anyway?
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Actually I had JP FW. I wanted to check if UK firmware will unlock my simlock, and bang the LWP lag is gone
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Hey there all,
I was wondering... my Tablet S device is quite sluggish, delays between swipes, opening & closing programs, typing etc.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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I have similar issue. The only solution I'd suggest:
(1) Get a cache remover like "1 Tap Cleaner Free" to remove cache. Cache can be very big ('00MB) in a few weeks.
(2) Get a task watch/killer, to find if there are any resident apps that keep reading activities/data of the tablet. You may then use the killer to kill them or uninstall them. (Frankly, many of those apps available in Play Store are susceptible. They might just want to get something from the user. So sorry that I could have no recommendation. But installing one and remove it afterwards may be fine.)
(3) Sometimes, a simple reboot helps.
Mine is working alright, though not terrific, and is having other issues to resolve. Taking back for service is always the last resort.
I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
My recomendation for "stable"
No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
I have very similar experience as yours. Bought the gtab long ago, played for a while, then stashed away for several month, but pulled it out again while some brilliant devs actually put JB on it.
I will never ever go back to stock on gtab. Both Smoother Bean and G-Harmony Jellybean ROMs work reasonably well. In my opinion, they are already pushing the limit of the hardware.
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No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
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Whereabouts can I download that ROM? I googled the file name and I found the cyanogen download page with the various releases but I wasn't sure which one to pick. I didn't see any that said for the gtab and to tell the truth, it was late and my eyes were sleepy! If you know of a place to download the ROM, I would appreciate it. I would like to give it a shot and see how it goes on my tablet. I'm also going to try out reinstalling JB. I didn't realize there was a update for smoOther bean. So, we'll see what happens.
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
DaggerDave said:
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Second that! :good:
When will TeamDRH be releasing a new JB rom?
Do you mind to share the new rom?
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I did install the CM7 ROM and I also tried another one, I can't remember right now which one it was. I was tempted away by the G-Harmony Jellybean ([ROM-AOSP][BL-1.2]G-Harmony Jellybean 4.1.2 ODEXed (UPDATED 12/28)) , I installed the Overclocked version and I have to say it is doing very well. I did have some SOD's but I supercharged it and bumped up the CPU with No Frills CPU and since then it has had no trouble. Its been since Saturday that I installed this ROM and I have used it a bunch since then. I guess time will tell.
I do have a question tho about a problem I'm having but it's absutely not a deal breaker. I can't get google calendar to sync. I know other ROMS have had a package to install that fixed this but I wasn't sure if I could do that with this rom. I don't want to jack up my install. I don't absolutelly have to get the calendar working right now. I don't have reliable internet at home, so the only time I get online with the thing is when I wifi tether to my phone. Was just wondering if anyone knew how to resolve this issue. Again, I would post in the forum for this ROM but I'm not allowed yet.
Thanks!
DaggerDave said:
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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When DRH is ready to release their new rom, it will likely be on the other forum first. Search Google for "gtablet roms 1.2/1.3" and that forum will be listed at the top of the page. Can't link you to it, else I may anger the XDA Moderators! Sounds like they are very close, just waiting on a new recovery.
As for my current build, just a basic CM10 build with a few minor customizations (my chosen boot animation, removed/replace system apps, changes to build.prop, etc.). I cannot share it because I am using the new (unreleased) kernel, and it's a pretty 'plain' version of CM10, but you can easily build it all yourself. Once you have your build environment setup, it is easy to rebuild an updated version any time you like. Only thing is, you are on your own when it comes to troubleshooting and support! If you are interested, I can link you to the info I used to figure out how to build the kernel and CM10, and the Git locations of the required source code. You would need a decent computer running 64bit Linux (I use Arch Linux, but Ubuntu is easier to setup), about 50GB hard drive space, and some free time. I just did it for fun, plus I'm impatient and wanted to try the new kernel, and none of the JB roms at the time would run well for me.
Best ROM for G-Tab
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
This post. A million times this post. Smooth bean looks promising but I've been through so many roms with mediocre to poor tab perf.
[=torilyn73;37717272]I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]
Running SmoOther Bean but it starts up laggy?
Nice you gave me some more settings to try. Don't know that I want to change the DPI or have any issues with volume. Did change CPU settings. Anything else you'd recommend?
After it's run for about 10 minutes, it seems to work OK, only occasional lag. I'm setting background processes limit to none on every boot up. Anyone have a way to make that change stick between reboots?
Thanks!
Downloadbob
ugsny321 said:
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
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Check out nobe1976 UnOfficial -BAKED ROM
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
What's your experience like with Blackbean?
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
_dave said:
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
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Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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BAKED Bean you will must NVFlash to the new 2013DRH setup. The boot.img in that ROM is the latest fosser2 3.1.10 kernel. The mounting is completely different other then the System. So updating the Tablet with the latest that is linked in the OP should be done to the T.
downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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The only "lag" I'm seeing is after the opening screen animation the screen goes blank for 10sec or so. So, just wait till the regular default screen appears.
And be sure to do what Nobe1976 said. It went very easy for me changing over, for I already have used NVFlash 2013DRH version with
nobe1976 "PAC" ROM. Good Luck.
Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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Android Newbie ... Rooting i717 with stock JB?
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
olliesshop said:
I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?