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OK, maybe i have bad eyes, and according to the optometrist i do Anyway, point being, i seem to have absolutely no trouble seeing the 3d effect and i can see it from, not a wide angle range, but i dont have to be in the "magical" spot. Even all the photos and videos i took look great. Far better than the ones that came on the phone as samples. Lastly, the 3d content on youtube was awesome and very easily viewed to me. I am one to get motion sick easily and for some reason, i have no issues with this device. Like i said, maybe iim the exception, but i'm 110% satisfied with the device and the "gimmic" 3d
Yeah I think the 3d mode is pretty good. All though at extreme angles it will mess with your eyes.
I agree, 3d is very easy to see for me. It looks amazing too
I thought the same thing.
I played with a ds3d and hated it. Knowing that this phone had similar tech made me question its quality and ease on my eyes.
Well i can say now that the 3d is very good! Just got done watching green Hornet 3d and my eyes feel fine. I did fine myself loosing the 3d at times but I think that's cause I was looking at it for so long.
Pictures are a little harder to tune in and are harsher on the eyes, but the 3d affect is amazing! This phone is definitely a win in my book.
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bothers the heck out of my eyes, I find it too bothersome to hold it in the correct spot.
now...I think its cool for short recordings and pics, but theres no way im watching a whole 3d movie on it.
had to take aspirin after about 8 minutes of green hornet.
or maybe its just cause I think that movie stinks
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bothers the heck out of my eyes, I find it too bothersome to hold it in the correct spot.
now...I think its cool for short recordings and pics, but theres no way im watching a whole 3d movie on it.
had to take aspirin after about 8 minutes of green hornet.
or maybe its just cause I think that movie stinks
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Agreed, Worst Seth Rogan film ever. Hurts my eyes too.
Now the 3D effect, is bad ass! Yes you have to have it at the correct angle but with a Kickstand case, no problemo.
Last time I got my eyes checked, about 3 years ago, I had 20/15 vision so I would say that my sight is pretty good. The 3D effect is good but I find, at least for me, that the window is extremely narrow. It really has to be in the prefect position, otherwise it's nauseating.
I find it amazing. U just have to hold it still
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Had no idea it would be this good
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I find it amazing. U just have to hold it still
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I must admit the 3D is much better than I expected, especially after reading the early reviews. I'm fortunate in that I haven't had the eye fatigue or headaches reported by some. But as far as the 3D effect it is very good, even the pictures I've taken; and practice makes perfect. As mentioned above, holding the phone still in important.
The YouTube videos are awesome. I upgraded from the 4G to the 3D for the new processor and Sense 3.0; 3D was really not much of interest yet that is all I've been playing with since I got the phone yesterday.
At a price of $199 after rebates, why would anyone in there right mind complain about a feature you do not have to use anyway. It is amazing that this thing has 3d along with all of it's other top specs of any device and still came in at the price point it did.
The only thing they might have done different if they did not add the 3d in would have been to up the camera to 8mp but even then, it would probably be the same camera we have now but just shoot larger pictures so who cares.
I also bet all the people who screamed gimmick are starring at there phone right now trying to find anything in 3d to view.......
Although right now, I am starring at my phone fighting with myself if I should push the button to upgrade my software or wait to see if they root the non-updated software!
Anyway, 3d is a win on this device! Don't know how much better they could have made it and cannot understand how any reviewer can complain about the way it was implemented.....
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I agree, 3d is very easy to see for me. It looks amazing too
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I have amazing vision according to my doctor but the 3d hurts my eyes. I also have to be holding it just the right distance away to see it. Too close and it looks 2d.
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The 3d images and videos on my phone doesnt really work all the time. The two images dont really line up properly. It seems like the phone is having convergence issues or something. The images look somewhat 3D but there is a lot of double images and ghosting. Nothing like when I got it out of the box. The 3d effect was perfect. Sometimes a hard reset will tame it, even tried a factory reset but the problem keeps coming back. Does anyone else have this issue?
i too have this issue.
My hypothesis, is that it cant or didnt auto focus correctly
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Also i have the "out of box" software. these OTAs might have fixed some 3D rendering software
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The 3d images and videos on my phone doesnt really work all the time. The two images dont really line up properly. It seems like the phone is having convergence issues or something. The images look somewhat 3D but there is a lot of double images and ghosting. Nothing like when I got it out of the box. The 3d effect was perfect. Sometimes a hard reset will tame it, even tried a factory reset but the problem keeps coming back. Does anyone else have this issue?
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i went to a baseball game yesterday and took some pics... i seriously have to cross my eyes to see a solid picture. it seems the 3D camera works well for pics between 3 to 50ft away, anything farther seems to strain your eyes when trying to focus. The players were doubled (with lots of space between them) and focusing before taking the pic isn't that accurate(even in 2D), the samsung galaxy s has much MUCH better focus abilities. Took a pic of the city skyline and it wasn't as crisp as i thought it would be
i hope software updates in the future improve this (ie the camera from the new mytouch)
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i went to a baseball game yesterday and took some pics... i seriously have to cross my eyes to see a solid picture. it seems the 3D camera works well for pics between 3 to 50ft away, anything farther seems to strain your eyes when trying to focus. The players were doubled (with lots of space between them) and focusing before taking the pic isn't that accurate(even in 2D), the samsung galaxy s has much MUCH better focus abilities. Took a pic of the city skyline and it wasn't as crisp as i thought it would be
i hope software updates in the future improve this (ie the camera from the new mytouch)
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Thanks for that. And yeah its software, like you said, so they could easily bump up some goods
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I have all the OTA updates. It's a real problem and I think more people have it than realize. But as long as its a software issue I can hold off on trading it in. My handset is perfect as far as build, so if its not fixed in a few weeks I'll just exchange it as defective.
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Another symptom is that 3D pictures in the gallery don't work in portrait. It just shows the two pictures interlaced together with no 3D effect at all.
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You can adjust the image after you take it. Use the magic wand and align 3d image. Pretty simple.
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I've seen a video on youtube that looked like you describe, but it seemed to be a fluke, most of the other things looked as I'd expect.
Our cameras are fixed and can't adjust for different distances like our eyes can so the 3d effect will be lost of trying to capture somethin far away....
As far as 3d in portrait it works but it wasn't meant to be seen that way
Bussin Caps n 3D
I've notice this also but I call it a bad take on a picture. Just like it was stated above the camera might not have focused correctly. Usually another take does it. And I've noticed that looking at 3D content doesn't strain my eyes like before because I trained my eyes for this this type of media. Now I could see a 3D pic in an instant.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Nah its not a bad take and pictures are being taken properly. I know this because after a hard reset everything shows up fine for a minute or two before reverting back. (3d effect in landscape but not spaced properly so lots of ghosting and double images, no 3d effect AT ALL in portrait just shows two interlaced photos.) I know the 3d isn't optimal in portrait but its not working for me, period.
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I have only experienced the screen from the og evo and the qhd on the 3d but the rave seems to be the samsung samoled screen. Those that have have hands on with other screens what is the best looking screen in your opinion? I have spent time with the retina display on the iphone 4 which is nice but is just way too small for me. I have read the super amoled plus is as good as the retina i just havent had hands on time with it. Is it that much better than the 3d's screen?
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I've had the Epic 4g (not touch) and the Nexus S 4g, EVO and EVO 3d and I can honestly say the S AMOLED screens have better color than the Evo 3d but I still prefer the Evo 3d screen.
I prefer the sgs 2 screen is really good too bad is not 720p cause those phones got some really big screen, so far my favorite definition and screen is the iPhone 4, really make a difference when looking right next to another phone , evo 3d is just wash out for some reason
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From what I've heard, the lg nova screen is the best screen on the market. I haven't actually seen one though. I thought the sgs2 screen was too cartoony looking.
iPhone 4 was nice but I agree that it was too small. I had one for about 8 months and then went to an atrix. The pentile display was pretty crappy.
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I like my 3d screem the best. Super amiled looks dark all the time to me and the iphone 4 whites look pink. Maybe i just had 2 bad phones.
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I am definitely interested in seeing the 720 hd display on the new google phone. I am just amazed how fast phones are progressing. I wish they had a 6 month upgrade plan and even then you would be behind the times. I am still shocked at the camera on the prime though. I know mp arent the only thing that matters but at this point 8 is the standard it seems and many are coming in at 12mp. Hell i remember when phones first got cameras and how awesome everyone thought they were
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I had the Nexus one before and right after I switched to the 3D I noticed the screen wasn't as good as the AMOLED. That being said, after a couple days it wasn't an issue, I only noticed after using it for over a year and immediately comparing it.
Side by side there's a difference but the E3D screen is just fine. I wouldn't base any decisions off the screen.
EVO 3D screen is good enough for me...
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iphone screen size is too small... 3.5"
Super amoled is superior in terms of color, but it is darker than qhd. I personally like the qhd, and even with a side by side comparison to the best screen out there I would never have that be what determines the phone I get
I think that samoled is prettier to look at, but I'm happy with the Evo 3d's qhd crispness!
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After having both an AMOLED incredible and an nexus S 4g with a super AMOLED, I couldn't go back.
I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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This. Especially when using LCD Changer and changing the density to a smaller one..the E3D shines!
My friends have the SGSII, NS4G, and Epic 4G. After using their phones I feel like my screen is definitely second-rate, although the qHD aspect of the EVO 3D's screen is soooo incredibly awesome.
The SGSII may be only 480x800, but each pixel also has 3 sub-pixels, so keep that in mind when bashing it's resolution.
After owning the E3D and now the SGS2, I must say the SGS2 screen just amazes me everytime I look at it. Resolution truly means nothing when comparing these 2 screens.
I do agree that the SGS2 looks more cartoony but I think it just looks more fun because of that. The E3D looks like a much more series screen. The colors on the E3D look extremely washed out when comparing to an Super Amoled Plus Screen. It almost looks like the screen has been sitting out in the sun for months and just faded.....
Speaking of the sun, when outdoors the SGS2 screen can be seen crystal clear as well. It can't even be explained, it is just something you need to see. The screen just cuts through the sun....
You just need to decide what is important to you and go with it. To some the screen means everything, to others not so much.....Either way the SGS2 takes the cake when comparing screens.......
SAMOLED by a mile. As for people saying the SAMOLED screens look over-saturated: You're probably just too used to the washed out LCD look. I truly miss my Epic's screen, even with it having a pentile sub-pixel matrix.
Best things about the sgs2 screen is the color depth, the whites and blacks are amazing. The evo3d screen as a lot better resolution, but you get used to it after a few weeks. As far as the oversaturaed look people mentioned , there are different modes in the display settings to adjust the color saturation to your liking.
I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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The screen is different on the sgs2 then it is on the Nexus 4G. On the sgs2 the screen is nice and bright, far from being considered to dark. You really need to see it in person, you cannot base your opinion off of the Nexus 4G, they are different screens.
I set my 3D to full brightness, and did the same with my bro's Nexus-S 4G ...we then opened up the first level of Angry Birds RIO since the game has pretty much every color under the sun. The colors on the Nexus were richer, with more contrast...but the smaller details were far far better on the Evo. The most obvious difference was the eyes in the birds. On the Evo they were clearly detailed, you could see the outter and inner eye while on the Nexus it pretty much a blur with some pixelation. Try it out. I also felt the 3D had a second rate screen as well, still do actually, but that was a welcome surprise.
I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
Its the pentile hd display, yeah some colors show a little pixelation when you look closely, but ive always loved the screen and thought the colors were better displayed than the over-saturated colors in AOLED(did I spell that right?) Anyways, at firdt I thought the pixelation might bother me but It doesnt one bit cause its such a small difference for me atleast.. I love the color contrast though!
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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I had Defy, before Photon and I had the same problem with screen. But I must say, it's only a question of manner. Now I am satisfied with screen of Photon.
Pentile take getting used to, really wish they'd made it 720p so you can't notice but I like the display anyway
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I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
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So, why did you buy it? I've had mine 9 months and spent an hour with it in a store to make sure the screen worked with my eyes.
Isn't it about 9 months too late to be whining about something nobody forced you to buy?
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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yes! I forgot to add that cause im ao use to it now, the screen is SO easy to see,with brightness turned off and in the sun, you can still read your screen! Yeah you should probably turn up the brightness but every other phone you cant see a thing in the sun with the brightness off, very good for the battery!
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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Good post.
I moved from the EVO to EVO 4G to Photon. From reading reviews at time I considered the Photon, I was fully prepared to hate the pentile screen. But, my eyes just plain did not see the pentile pixelation (from reading posts at the time, some peoples' eyes saw it, some didn't). I spent an hour in the store before buying the Photon.
During my return window, the Samsung Epic came out with larger screen (physically, but lower-res). Back to the store I go - I found the Sammy's screen to be way over-saturated wrt colors, and washed out in the sun.
Hi,
This is hard to describe, but is there a known issue with the Amaze's screen?
Besides the yellow banding that I have (I'm not convinced that replacing it will be better), when I play videos, I can see something akin to a pixely- pentile matrix look. It almost can look like it vibrates akin to a piezo electric effect. Hard to describe, but as someone coming from the iphone, I can easily spot this (my iPhone had no such issues). This occurs even on 720p video. It's not pixelated video, and it happens on any video player.
I have seen this on my 24" monitor, as well as on a sony laptop before, but I am wondering if this is a software issue or some type of cheap connector or an inherent screen issue.
have you seen someone elses amaze? That's your best bet. Anyways my looks excellent in opinion. If you see it in another amaze, then you have eyes of a hawk...
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i see it too, but you do need eyes of a hawk to notice it. this can be best noticed by using the HTC Sense blur live wallpaper and brightness cranked up to 100%, then paying attention to the moving bubbles
but by all means its not a screen defect, its by design.