With the new wave of games optimised for Tegra 2 being released right now, I was just wondering if these games would still be playable on the Exynos.
I don't foresee any reason why they wouldn't be playable; they would just be less optimised.
Edit: Having stated that, perhaps some developers will find it easier to develop for just one chip, and leave the others out in the cold by having the application check the processor. Android is ridiculously fragmented.
The Exynos is more powerful than the Tegra 2 AFAIK so yes, the games do work... but the shaders (correct term?) differ so they might display incorrectly. Hope is not lost though, as Chainfire has created an app to deal with this. I think it's just called Chainfire 3D. There's a whole thread about it around here somewhere.
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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Friut ninja hd, also doesnt work. Says that its optimised for tegra devices only.
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From reading other comments elsewhere it appeared that the Exynos chipset was better than the Tegra 2, or is the Tegra 2 just better in games?...
Tegra games will not work on any other GPU ATM
galaxy s and nexus s PowerVR sgx 540 and other high end GPUs are more than capable of running "tegra 2" games.
Not to mention the tegra 2 really isn't that much faster than the SGS NS sgx540 tegra has two CPU cores and from what i gathered when gaming it dedicated one core for system and the other strictly for games when gaming.
Nvidia is paying off developers just like they do on PC. only difference between mobile and PC though is that PC "nvidia meant to be played" games will still work on ATI
Not the same with other mobile GPUs unfortunately
Nvidia is ruining android by doing this exclusive BS
Also the SGS2 GPU should be on par if not faster than the tegra 2
^ Gotcha thanks!...
Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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1. Probably due to the limited supply of Exynos CPUs
2. No, unless there needs to be a new driver written for the CPU (which is highly unlikely)
Nvidia is just causing some more fragmentation. As if we needed anymore.
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Not only that but AMD is actually getting into the Android hardware game so it's about to get even messier. I hope Google comes out with some kind of DirectX thing to help with this.
well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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Wouldnt worry to much about that Most game developers make sure their game run on a wide selection of phones. Addapting a game to run on a new phone is not a lot of work, but increases the market potential. As mentioned before, Nvidia is paying developers to make the game tegra2 only. And luckely Nvidia is the only one doing this so far. A direct X solution for android could be a good medicine against the fragmentation, but I do know a certain hackers community that makes tegra 2 games playable on other devices. (have been playing galaxy on fire 2 for a while now) But XDA doesnt support linking to pirated software so I cannot share this, im sorry. (Google is your friend )
If the range of tegra 2 games will grow, there will be more interest in porting those games. Since its not very hard. Lets hope the hackers destroy the fragmentation haha.
As long as game developers stick to OpenGL ES specifications, all devices will be able to play the game (current). The device with more powerful GPU will obviously play it better.
What Nvidia is doing with Tegra is that they are making the sponsored game developers use the proprietary texture compression format that only Tegra Devices can run. This is what I have against Tegra Zone and Tegra as whole. The last thing we want is Nvidia playing dirty games they tried to play in PC gaming arena (they still do to some extent with PhysX and CUDA ).
So there is no real need to worry about developers having to code the game for each GPU core out there. Sensation might have different GPU but it will be OpenGL ES 2.x compatible just like Mali and others.
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Samsung galaxy s and Desire HD can run tegra game ... why would world's fastest phone cannot run it????
Ur solution here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q
Below the video , see description.. he has attached all files needed...
U need to root ur SGS2 and Install chaifire 3d... install nvidia driver.. it will run flawlessly....
here.. .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/4949-Tegra-only-games-now-working-in-SGSII!
Enjoy...
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Yes but you'll need to Root, download Chainfire3D and the NVidia Tegra patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090032
I can confirm this works for some games...
These are the games I've tested thus far:
Samurai II: Vengeance runs very well - However their is a bug with opening the combo draw.
Pinball HD for Tegra runs flawlessly
Riptide GP doesn't load at all - Just a black screen and then crash to homescreen.
When I have the money I'll buy the other games later and post results later.
Our phones also use an OpenGL compression which no other phone uses as of this moment, so there is nearly 0 support for it at the moment
EDIT: I forgot to mention this is with the use of Chainfire 3D with the Tegra plugin.
Pinball HD is running even on my Xperia X10 with Chainfire 3d...
Samurai 2 ... runs on low texture but not playable on x10.... but i have seen videos of it running on SGS and Desire HD... so it will run on sgs2 too
Dont know about other games...
I am a bit of a layman when it comes to GPUs etc, but I am aware that the SGS II will not be able to run tegra applications...
Is anybody able to give the main advantages/disadvantage of the SGS II's GPU in comparison to it having a tegra chip?
Will it cause problems in the future if more power intensive games are coming out for tegra only because of the whole 'tegra zone' thing?
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I am a bit of a layman when it comes to GPUs etc, but I am aware that the SGS II will not be able to run tegra applications...
Is anybody able to give the main advantages/disadvantage of the SGS II's GPU in comparison to it having a tegra chip?
Will it cause problems in the future if more power intensive games are coming out for tegra only because of the whole 'tegra zone' thing?
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Well judging by what Chainfire is doing just now, it won't be non-tegra supporting for much longer
Game devs all want to make money. The galaxy s 2 is going to sell A LOT. So I'm pretty sure we won't have that many games that aren't supported.
A dev would be stupid to not support the s2.
And is ALL open gl benchmarks the s2 does MUCH better than tegra 2 phones.
guys do you know if this phone will be able to play tegra 2 games ?
I guess chainfire3d is an app that lets you spoof the chipset id so software for a certain chip will run on any device. Haven't tried it yet, but it may be what we need. Games may run like crap but only time will tell. App is in the market.
The app requires root and s-off so no way to know for sure until the phone is released and the community finds full root.
do you know when it will be release in europe ? (greece)
i hope it will play tegra 2 games because is good games
This is also a big concern of mine. Im a bit of gamer, so I would love to have the tegra games. I have heard the dual core should help them run smooth.
The Adreno 220 GPU should be able to handle some hits I would imagine. It's too bad games are being developed that only the Tegra can handle that are so fun. Kinda taunt us by putting it in the Market and slapping "Tegra 2 only!" on it.
Chainfire 3D does allow that, but requires root access,
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The Adreno 220 GPU should be able to handle some hits I would imagine. It's too bad games are being developed that only the Tegra can handle that are so fun. Kinda taunt us by putting it in the Market and slapping "Tegra 2 only!" on it.
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Once we get root we will be able to run them no problem.
my Epic 4G ran all the tegra 2 games at full speed and looked great
So we have this awesome GPU/CPU in the 3vo and I want to play some tegra games, now I know in order to do that we need Chainfire3d, but my real question here is were can I purchase/download tegra games... I don't see links on the market ...
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So we have this awesome GPU/CPU in the 3vo and I want to play some tegra games, now I know in order to do that we need Chainfire3d, but my real question here is were can I purchase/download tegra games... I don't see links on the market ...
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If you buy chainfire pro and install it theres a option in there to fix market after you load the Nvidia drivers (you need to google for the drivers). Basically what happens is it will tell the Market you have a tegra2 device so it should allow all the tegra games to show up.
Note: Even with chainfire not all games will work. Only way to find this out is when you try the game. Or you can check the chainfire thread to see what games work.
Wouldn't this make the Tegra games perform worse though? Since it's a form of emulation.
Honestly, not sure if it's worth the trouble. I have a Tegra tablet, and I tried downloading a THD game that I already have on my Evo: Samurai II.
The difference was neglible really.