Is it possible to run another android rom from the sd card and dualbooting so you could basically try out roms?
The hd2 is capable of this through bootloaders like magldr or clk. What are our chances of doing this?
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When a computer does this some special software is needed so it can recognize the different bootloaders of each, so our phone would need the same thing .... i remember sombionix tried this like more than a year ago but abandoned the project because of the impossible issues, i can also imagine it being memory intensive
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jwleonhart said:
Is it possible to run another android rom from the sd card and dualbooting so you could basically try out roms?
The hd2 is capable of this through bootloaders like magldr or clk. What are our chances of doing this?
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I just came to vibrant from HD2 and according to what i know, hd2 is able to dual boot because the bootloader was written from scratch by developer Cotulla. HD2 has a large developers base due to which hd2 was finally able to run andriod perfectly. It might be possible for samsung vibrant to dual boot, but since samsung hasnt provided source code for the bootloader (and probably wont), the only option will be to start from scratch which will require a lot of work. So if developers dont find any other ways to dual boot other than making a new bootloader, it might be really difficult to do that.
So your saying we need Cotulla to buy a vibrant?
Someone want to ship one to his doorstep as a gift and request a bootloader?
jwleonhart said:
So your saying we need Cotulla to buy a vibrant?
Someone want to ship one to his doorstep as a gift and request a bootloader?
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Lol collaborate and buy a dev a phone kinda like how evo users did the same for cyanogenmod? Nice
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Related
warning
do not be an idiot like me and use the partition sd card option in rom manager. It will mess up the phone's master boot record and you will have to rewrite the original one in order for voodoo kernels or anything that modifies the boot record to work properly.
once again don't be an idiot like me! Thank you
I don't know what to say to this... I think this is why you aren't getting any replies. Lol.
good thing this was put in development. Hey dev's, did this help you in creating your newest rom/kernel?
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warning
do not be an idiot like me and use the partition sd card option in rom manager. It will mess up the phone's master boot record and you will have to rewrite the original one in order for voodoo kernels or anything that modifies the boot record to work properly.
once again don't be an idiot like me! Thank you
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Thanx For The Warning....
I Was Recently Considering Doing It Too! But To Be Honest, In The Back Of My Mind, I Was Wondering If I'd Have To Deal With The Possibility Of Eff'n Up My Phone!!
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So this is what happened to me. Could someone be so kind as to tell me how to rewrite the master boot record so I can get my phone back? Please and thank you! And please!
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I have DJ05, don't know if that changes anything. Thanks!
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If you do this to your sd card, will the kernel not rewrite the MBR when you reboot? Like the first time you flash a Voodoo kernel.
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Thanx For The Warning....
I Was Recently Considering Doing It Too! But To Be Honest, In The Back Of My Mind, I Was Wondering If I'd Have To Deal With The Possibility Of Eff'n Up My Phone!!
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Uhm... in light of your signature, you do realize this is the Verizon Samsung Fascinate forum, right? Not the Sprint HTC Hero forum.
Because this post does not apply to HTC phones. Or Motorola phones. Or LG phones. Or any phone that isn't a Samsung Galaxy S.
Check below:
http://galaxysense.com/Fascinate/
That site was allowing to browse directories a couple of days ago. I guess owner is here, on forum.
Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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there wont be any custom ROMs for the phone until someone is able to get past it without bricking theirs.. if you are not the kind to flash custom ROMs onto your phones, this probably wont affect you much.
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Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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The bootloader is what loads up the operating sytem in very simple terms. By locking or signing it, it means that we need to present motorola's certificate every time we want to load a custom ROM/kernel.
Though what he says is true, you can still root the phone, install pseudo-custom ROMs (they are all right here in the forums) and do tons of other things.
This is still a great great phone though and probably the best in the market in my opinion.
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The bootloader is what loads up the operating sytem in very simple terms. By locking or signing it, it means that we need to present motorola's certificate every time we want to load a custom ROM/kernel.
Though what he says is true, you can still root the phone, install pseudo-custom ROMs (they are all right here in the forums) and do tons of other things.
This is still a great great phone though and probably the best in the market in my opinion.
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I will miss cm wait how do they get cyanogenmod and custom kernels in the Droid?
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Alanrocks15 said:
Hello
I'm thinking of getting an atrix
But have heard of a locked bootloader on Motorola devices what does this mean
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So did you get the Atrix...???
Im trying to figure out the same... its either a Atrix or a LG optimus 2x... reaalllyyy confused... esp since i loved the full customization on my SGS just like you...!!
Bootloader is unlocked now. no worries
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Yea had it for a few days unlocked the loader in gb
But gave it to my sister.
Temporarily got an hd2
I have the Atrix on Telus Mobility. It's unlocked and I am running Gingerbreak right now as we speak. I love the phone but i hope This works.
I have not been on this website for like 1 month and i know that our elites are trying their best to get closer to achieving their biggest "x10" goals. i just wanted to know how close we got to cracking the boot loader, or if we have done it. I really want multi touch, and apple apps. THANKS!
Go to the development section and read the "bootloader cracking thread"
Hasnt been cracked, buy maybe bypassed soon.
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It's not cracked yet but they almost there the devils managed to but with custom boot.img and custom kernel but with problems
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I really want multi touch
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it is already available in newer stock roms!
you aren't going to get anything else other than the crappy dual touch that already exists... bootloader cracked/bypassed or not
I just got a replacement phone today that came with the att 2.2 installed. is there no possible way to root the phone with this already installed? im doomed if thats the case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035699
I know. I didn't even think about it. I would have rather had my broken phone than a new one that can't be rooted... total crap. I hope someone figures this out soon. Really steals the cool right out of Android with all at&t restrictions and htc giving us the shaft with a patched hboot. Devs please figure this out if its even possible...
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Maybe a hardware solution soon?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12908295&postcount=43.
And no nand lock!?
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I'll be honest and say I don't really know what all that means
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There are rumours of a device that when attached to your phone (the innards?) can bypass the bad hboot and let one root. plus it can allow the yet unacheived s-off or nand lock off which completely opens the phone (you can alter the currently protected system read/ write while the phone is running)
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Very nice. Well I'm looking forward to this.
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Is it possible to go back to 2.1 after update to 2.2
Has anyone tried to go back to 2.1 with Odin after official AT&T upgrade to 2.2.
One way or another I WILL get this AT$ T garbage off this phone.
OR has anyone tried to go to another custom ROM straight from AT$T 2.2,
Thanks In Advance.
Dean Guilberry said:
Has anyone tried to go back to 2.1 with Odin after official AT&T upgrade to 2.2.
One way or another I WILL get this AT$ T garbage off this phone.
OR has anyone tried to go to another custom ROM straight from AT$T 2.2,
Thanks In Advance.
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Although you can run the original 2.1 RUU and get the old ROM version installed, this process does not change and overwrite the HBOOT loader. The HBOOT loader 1.02 was installed with the AT&T 2.2 update and this is what is preventing the previous root exploit to work on the Aria that has the AT&T 2.2 update installed.
The only chance is that the XTC Clip hardware device will be able to turn the Aria security flag (S-OFF) off and then the phone can be rooted and custom ROMs flashed.
How does one tell what boot loader they have?
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How does one tell what boot loader they have?
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Turn the phone off and then hold the volume down button while pressing the power button. The phone will boot into the boot loader. Your hboot version will be displayed with other information on this screen.
HBOOT loader 1.02, oh well i guess i put this phone on ebay and move on to something else. I only paid $39 for this phone so i should make out good. It was almost new. Or i might just wait a bit to see what solutions come around. I wonder if some local cell shop cant s-off it for me.
quick question: whats stopping us from creating a "gold card" using our own sdcards and computers?
I see that the site sells them (preconverted sd's) as well as the gold card device so i figured i might as well ask
kaboose01 said:
quick question: whats stopping us from creating a "gold card" using our own sdcards and computers?
I see that the site sells them (preconverted sd's) as well as the gold card device so i figured i might as well ask
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soooooo ive been reading around... Say I have a gold card what could i do?
Gold cards turns security off (S-OFF) for htc phones. Which allows access to NAND memory without having to use clockwork recovery to flash to NAND.
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kaboose01 said:
quick question: whats stopping us from creating a "gold card" using our own sdcards and computers?
I see that the site sells them (preconverted sd's) as well as the gold card device so i figured i might as well ask
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Good question. All I know is attn1 said it doesn't work on the Aria. But if you think he missed something, go ahead and try it. ;P
Nah... I was just curious (lack of money keeps it a curiosity) as I had seen them on the Xtc site along with the Xtc gold card device.
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Gold cards turns security off (S-OFF) for htc phones. Which allows access to NAND memory without having to use clockwork recovery to flash to NAND.
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No it doesn't. All it does is override Modelid.
So officially there is no known way to root the aria by soft/hardware?
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I have so many apps I can't even use now either because of memory or root issues. I want my Cm7 back so bad.
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I just wonder if we can have dual boot like two ROMs selectable at the time of boot? Or, at least two user accounts selectable right after boot having different settings and data?
My family members like my streak so much so that they borrow my streak frequently for a day or two. I don't want to say no but at the same time don't even want them to have a peek into my settings and data.
Yes, I do use various data locking programs but I just wanna have two identities just like we have in windows PC.
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ammujee said:
I just wonder if we can have dual boot like two ROMs selectable at the time of boot? Or, at least two user accounts selectable right after boot having different settings and data?
My family members like my streak so much so that they borrow my streak frequently for a day or two. I don't want to say no but at the same time don't even want them to have a peek into my settings and data.
Yes, I do use various data locking programs but I just wanna have two identities just like we have in windows PC.
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if i not mistaken... the kernel have some limitation... so it is not possible to have dual boot or something similar...
deysmacro said:
if i not mistaken... the kernel have some limitation... so it is not possible to have dual boot or something similar...
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Well I read here that it's possible with an application called Bootmanager. Most just afraid to try that out before getting a good ahead from senior developers like n0p, theManii etc. Link to the lifehacker article http://m.lifehacker.com/5826050/how-to-dual-boot-multiple-roms-on-your-android-phone
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Well if you're so die hard to try it go ahead and brick or boot loop your phone. If you took a few more minutes to do the research you'd find out dual booting is mainly kernel specific and also specific to devices with open source drivers
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The possibility of bricking crossed my mind also and due to my limited knowledge of correlating so many ifs and buts, I preferred to ask you more knowledgeable ones. Thanks for saving me from bricking my phone.
BTW, isn't that a possible feature which can be incorporated in DSC phoenix kernel?
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ammujee said:
The possibility of bricking crossed my mind also and due to my limited knowledge of correlating so many ifs and buts, I preferred to ask you more knowledgeable ones. Thanks for saving me from bricking my phone.
BTW, isn't that a possible feature which can be incorporated in DSC phoenix kernel?
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how possible to do dual boot when bootmanager itself dont support it? lol...
deysmacro said:
how possible to do dual boot when bootmanager itself dont support it? lol...
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Spreading some knowledge would be much appreciated. There were times when even GB and CWM6 were not supported. Now we have 70% working ICS and 95% working CWM6, and FYKI none are officially supported.
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ammujee said:
Spreading some knowledge would be much appreciated. There were times when even GB and CWM6 were not supported. Now we have 70% working ICS and 95% working CWM6, and FYKI none are officially supported.
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and developer choose not to support streak... try emailing them and see what they reply...
I do understand why developers refrain from supporting streak, the only reason is that Dell itself has abandoned its masterpiece without much user feedback. We had and still have hopes with a handful of selfless developers here on xda without whom we all would had a brick thrown somewhere in drawers.
I still prefer streak over galaxy note due to the exact maximum size where u can access every corner with your thumbs.
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There is a really hacky way to do it on pretty much all phones: take over the recovery.img and use that to boot.
But it's really ugly in that you must boot as if you were entering the recovery.
I believe that converting a rom and kernal to do that isnt that difficult, but there's just as many downsides as there are upsides, and the kernal+rom must be specifically designed to do so.
You cant simply flash a 2nd rom like that and expect it to work.
There was another device not too long ago that got 'dual-boot' that way on the xda news feed.
The right way would be like using MAGLDR for the HD2 where it takes over the boot process entirely (i think) and lets you choose, but I think the roms need to be written to boot from whereever (ie NAND/SD).