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I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
Can anyone confirm or deny the following:
x2's camera > TB
x2's video/gaming > TB
4g is a plus but not a dealbreaker for me.
my opinion: i like motoblur over sense (if i don't modify, which is a reason i am considering trading)
any input would be great. i know it is late, especially on the east coast but i am hoping for some quick responses. thanks
Do it"!
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Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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mistawolfe said:
Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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it is, arguably, a hassle due to the 4g. sometimes you will lose 4g and need to flash a new radio/kernel/rom and no one else will experience the same issue.
has an OTA been released with gingerbread yet?
Yes but it's recommended to use p3s prerooted gingerbread, and other than the 4g the X2 stomps the Thunderbolt
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yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
converge12 said:
yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
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Available
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I would very much recommend using the eclipse rom as well... Very simple process and very much improved over stock
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After playing around with a Thunderbolt and an X2 i defaulted to the X2, and I must say with all the tweaking I've done it is hands down the best phone I've ever had.
Never owning a TB but having owned the X and now an X2 I like the X2 for its speed but the memory is a little lacking every now and then a game will tell me the memory is low and that it may close unexpectedly. I have always liked the Moto quality for reception and other components and having toyed with a few other HTC phones, locked bootloader and all Moto still gets my bet too.
I came from a Thunderbolt. The lack of roms on the x2 makes me sad considering the large dev support for the tbolt. Honestly, the proformance of a non overclocked cm7 bolt was about the same as the x2 in the real world.
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converge12 said:
I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Robin M said:
Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Don't know about the tbolt, but there were so many missed call issues on the fascinate that Samsung sponsored a swap thru vzw for fascinate owners. We got to choose between the x2, the dinc2 or the charge.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
If flashing custom roms and 4g is important to you, then go for it. The X2 should be getting more dev support soon..hopefully..
Oh and I'm pretty sure the TB's camera is better than the X2's. Consumer Report rated it as the #2 or #4, I can't remember, best cell phone camera. The X was last, and it has the same camera as the X2.
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Oh. Well yeah, you can do that.
Before trading out for a droid x2 you may want to look into all the audio problems people have reported. I personally have experienced very bad audio skipping while using my x2 and no hacks tips tricks super charges or roms have resolved the problem. I keep my fingers crossed for a solution but if I were you and liked listening to Pandora Slacker or any other audio on my phone I would stay away from the x2 for now
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My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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Get anything Samsung.
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Get anything Samsung.
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Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Came from a fascinate & am suspicious of Samsung reception. The missed call thing was killing me & I haven't had one incident of that on the x2.
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Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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It does sound great but the lack of an sd card slot is kinda a deal breaker for me.
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Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
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Yep, I know but it's either buy me a phone now or buy my wife one now, so how do you think that's gonna go? Lol
But all that aside, I checked out the razr today & plan on comparing it to the Rezound next week. My bottom line is reception & my x2 has never failed me where my wife's dinc hasn't been too impressive so htc might not be the best for me.
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Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Rage in the cage new? Never had to use it. First root ever was a one click root i found somewhere. Then i used Odin to flash the stock froyo pre-root. I believe i seen a pre-root GB stock over there, too.
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I believe "Rage against the Cage" is the exploit scheme that they used on the Samsung one-click boot process. It's been about 6 months since I've tried to root the Facinate, so my memory is sketcy. The upside is that, as you mentioned, there are probably a lot of pre-rooted ROM offerings that can be easily flashed with Heimdall (or Odin, if yer into that).
I agree Sammy makes a good phone. Wife loves her Facinate. Sadly, the Galaxy II never made it to Verizon, but now lots of folks are waiting for the Nexus, which should be out around the end of the month. But I also like the Moto Droid line, now that we've been given some developer attention. The hardware is top notch, and my X2 is running VERY snappy and stable on Moto-Ginger-Funk v7a. I have no reason to want to trade up for a long while yet (unless Google cannot get a handle on their funky Market issue).
Droid Razr looks very sharp (sorry for the pun). I'm a little afraid of the non-removeable battery, though. There are loads of times that I have recoved my X2 from brink of "brickhood" just by pulling the battery and booting into recovery.
I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
Odin=Heimdall but for diff operating systems, i believe. When my contract is up, I'm looking into sprint if vzw isn't allowed to launch the SGSII. And no, i have no intentions of turning this thread into a "who it's better sprint or vzw". Carry on w/ upgrade discussion...
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I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
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I'm pretty sure that the razr has a failsafe two buttons u.press to kill battery connection or something similar
.like a "hard kill" switch.
I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
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I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
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What led you to the Rezound? Beats audio or the the display?
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Well, the headphones alone carry a very hefty price, so getting them "free" for the same price as the other phones is a good incentive(probably why they aren't advertising the phone). I already have the SkullCandy Titan Earbuds, so I really don't NEED the Beats Audio ones. But, the camera's on it are both better. The screen resolution is on par with the nexus on a DX2 size screen. Removable battery, SD storage, unlockable BL, 1.5GHz processor.. Basically, the only "feature" it doesn't carry is the super slim design, and who gives a **** if the phone is lacking in so many other categories? lol.
My moms Stock Inc2 walked all over my X2 with Eclipse before I even put CM7 on it for her! HTC is doing all the right things, even with Sense. Too many people complain about Samsung, and I lived in Korea for 2 years from 07-09, we are getting their leftovers over here(Thanks FCC/FTC, and assholes running patent wars..Apple).
Yeah Im gonna look into adding a line soon. Not sure if I'm going to resound or nexus yet
Rezound looks sick. As does nexus(ICS!) but I can see resound getting ics eventually.
ha. HTC edge I thought about until I saw it was Tegra. I will wait for reviews on that before even trying it lol. This phone has lowered my expectations for tegra devices lol
Skip skip stutter...it drives me crazy how one day it seems skipping is.fixed but next its stutters again
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My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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motcher41 said:
His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
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We did that actually, got the original DX the day they came out. Loved em. I moved from a bb curve and she from a Moto rokr. When the DX gb bugs hit we were offered DX2s and took them since we had the car docks etc. Didn't feel like switching 100 worth of accessories.
AtLemacks right, seems that the Razer with limitations or something without. Hardware is close enough on either one. Why move to another Moto and keep banging your head against the wall like we do daily.
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Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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Wha?! Well you might as well let us know what your impressions are.
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I hope this is ok to post. I came across this promotion where Verizon is willing to let me upgrade early to a 4g phone. I'm asking here cause I've followed this forum for a while and I trust advice from the regular posters here!
I don't think I want to go the Motorola route this time cause of the locked bootloader issue. Im thinking about the rezound, spectrum, or nexus.
The rezound sounds appealing now because of the unlocked bootloader. I would go for a nexus but its more expensive plus I need HDMI. (The rezound is currently $99) I use it daily. The nexus is lacking in accessories big time. So can I get some opinions from my fellow X2 users?
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I hope this is ok to post. I came across this promotion where Verizon is willing to let me upgrade early to a 4g phone. I'm asking here cause I've followed this forum for a while and I trust advice from the regular posters here!
I don't think I want to go the Motorola route this time cause of the locked bootloader issue. Im thinking about the rezound, spectrum, or nexus.
The rezound sounds appealing now because of the unlocked bootloader. I would go for a nexus but its more expensive plus I need HDMI. (The rezound is currently $99) I use it daily. The nexus is lacking in accessories big time. So can I get some opinions from my fellow X2 users?
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i say wait and lets hear what motos new ceo does with the motos bl issue
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I've been kind of looking at upgrades too. I keep holding off just because the X2 is just beginning to get interesting. At least in my book. That said, I've been looking at the Rezound and Nexus too. They both have their minuses (like all phones) but if I do upgrade, I'm leaning toward the Rezound. One thing about the Rezound though, if you want to use HDMI, you have to buy an adapter for it. It doesn't have a dedicated port for it. Rather, it uses the USB port and for that to work, you have to buy the adapter. One more thing you need to buy but for me, it's not that big of a deal.
Spend some time reading in the forums here for the phones you are interested in and you'll get an idea of what's best for you. If you see a thread in the Rezound or Nexus forum titled something like, Rezound or Nexus, which one?, ignore them. Well, don't ignore them but remember if you're in a Rezound forum and ask that question, there's not much doubt about the way they are going to push you. Same goes for the same question in the Nexus forum. Anyway, spend some time in those forums and you'll get more of a feel for which phone is right for you.
Like I said, I've settled on the Rezound myself. However, I'm holding off to see what comes next for the X2. At least for a bit.
Whatever the case, my next phone won't be a Motorola. It's a shame too. Love their hardware. I don't think they take second to anybody else in the department but I'm kind of tired of being locked out of full usage of a phone that I bought and paid for. Just my two cents worth.
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I've been kind of looking at upgrades too. I keep holding off just because the X2 is just beginning to get interesting. At least in my book. That said, I've been looking at the Rezound and Nexus too. They both have their minuses (like all phones) but if I do upgrade, I'm leaning toward the Rezound. One thing about the Rezound though, if you want to use HDMI, you have to buy an adapter for it. It doesn't have a dedicated port for it. Rather, it uses the USB port and for that to work, you have to buy the adapter. One more thing you need to buy but for me, it's not that big of a deal.
Spend some time reading in the forums here for the phones you are interested in and you'll get an idea of what's best for you. If you see a thread in the Rezound or Nexus forum titled something like, Rezound or Nexus, which one?, ignore them. Well, don't ignore them but remember if you're in a Rezound forum and ask that question, there's not much doubt about the way they are going to push you. Same goes for the same question in the Nexus forum. Anyway, spend some time in those forums and you'll get more of a feel for which phone is right for you.
Like I said, I've settled on the Rezound myself. However, I'm holding off to see what comes next for the X2. At least for a bit.
Whatever the case, my next phone won't be a Motorola. It's a shame too. Love their hardware. I don't think they take second to anybody else in the department but I'm kind of tired of being locked out of full usage of a phone that I bought and paid for. Just my two cents worth.
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I think the x2 is getting interesting too but being throttled sucks. My download speeds are horrible.
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Well, if they're terrible because you're being throttled, that's not going to change no matter what phone you're using.
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I think the x2 is getting interesting too but being throttled sucks. My download speeds are horrible.
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Getting a new phone probably wont stop Verizon from throttling you...
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Well, if they're terrible because you're being throttled, that's not going to change no matter what phone you're using.
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4g isn't throttled. Unlimited 3g is
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i say wait and lets hear what motos new ceo does with the motos bl issue
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I kinda agree with this
cuz if they end up getting the unlocks ball rolling, the razr maxx would be a nice phone to grab unlocked...
rezound and nexus are good choices also.
the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
or u could hold out another month and see what "next big thing" drops in march/early april, there should be some sick devices coming...
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I kinda agree with this
cuz if they end up getting the unlocks ball rolling, the razr maxx would be a nice phone to grab unlocked...
rezound and nexus are good choices also.
the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
or u could hold out another month and see what "next big thing" drops in march/early april, there should be some sick devices coming...
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I agree..if Motorola does unlock bootloaders I would definitely be interested in raze maxx or whatever Motorola releases next. Only thing is the rezound is only 99 dollars so that's kind of hard to pass up. I'm not sure that a new CEO is going to make a difference in locked bootlaloaders though. I mean it definitely could for sure, but I think that decision goes a lot further then just one person. But again if the person who runs the place wants it done it would be done
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the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
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No external sd card either. Not a deal breaker but a big strike against it. IMHO
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I agree..if Motorola does unlock bootloaders I would definitely be interested in raze maxx or whatever Motorola releases next. Only thing is the rezound is only 99 dollars so that's kind of hard to pass up. I'm not sure that a new CEO is going to make a difference in locked bootlaloaders though. I mean it definitely could for sure, but I think that decision goes a lot further then just one person. But again if the person who runs the place wants it done it would be done
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the thing I liked in the article I read bout the ceo switch was "he isn't afraid to roll up his sleeves and put in work" hopefully that means he will make some changes and do things instead of sitting around just collecting fat stacks lol...
and robocuff, I guess im one of the few who thinks 32gb is plenty of space lol...if I had a 4g phone like that I also wouldn't mind storing pretty much all my music and pics in "cloud" form. which would mean I would probly never even fill up HALF that 32gb....and I've convinced myself that the system not having to read an external memory source would speed up how the phone performs ....probly doesn't make a difference tho lol
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The nexus has HDMI through mhl adapters like the Rezound.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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I thought I'd miss the SD card myself. Now that there are all of these cloud services with huge free GB allotments, I can't imagine needing more than 32 gigs on my nexus. When I mod my wife's DX2, I'm frustrated to have everything separated.
I'd say between the nexus and Rezound, you can't make a wrong choice. They're both top phones. The only thing the nexus has in my book is development support. This is the og droid all over again. This thing will be around for a loooooong time.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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lol
was just screwing wit ya...in actuality, id prolly fill that 32gb up quick lol
from what I've heard the rezound is solid, plus you'll be getting ics apparently by summer officially...I was highly considering the rezound also....but a certain dev getting nexus makes me.lean that way more
Well, I'm not really sure yet either. I feel like jumping to another but like I said before, things are just getting interesting here. Besides, I think of all the extras I have and it all works great together and, well, I don't know. If I do jump it'll probably be the Rezound for me though. I'll sit on it for a bit. I'm a bowhunter. I have lots of patience.
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Well, I'm not really sure yet either. I feel like jumping to another but like I said before, things are just getting interesting here. Besides, I think of all the extras I have and it all works great together and, well, I don't know. If I do jump it'll probably be the Rezound for me though. I'll sit on it for a bit. I'm a bowhunter. I have lots of patience.
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I'm excited that I get to play with my Nexus but also stick around the DX2 scene. DZK is doing some great stuff around here.
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The nexus does play the the tv via the docking station.
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The nexus does play the the tv via the docking station.
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I saw a docking station for the nexus today and it was 90 dollars and didn't have an HDMI port. I guess you have to use an adapter for the USB is what someone mentioned?
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Is this early upgrade deal just for you or a verizon thing. I'm guessing just for you lol since verizon hates me.
I've had quite a few Android devices, including the Galaxy Nexus and Droid RAZR, but this one is by far my favorite. I took a Trophy plus some expensive headphones a while back for my RAZR, and finally emerged from the wilderness of WP7 back into Android. This phone is very smooth, and has a wider range of apps and games available than any others that I've owned, besides the OG Droid. It always frustrated me that I couldn't play some of my old favorite GL games on my newer device, but now I can. I do have a class 10 card so that may make a difference too.
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Personally, I think aokp reinvented this 2 year old phone. Hoping to replace it soon with a gs3 from Verizon if we are lucky.
I tell people there isn't much this phone can't do.
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Personally, I think aokp reinvented this 2 year old phone. Hoping to replace it soon with a gs3 from Verizon if we are lucky.
I tell people there isn't much this phone can't do.
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Yeah I'm running AOKP right now and it is very smooth. Very comparable to the GNexus in most tasks. I've owned one, so trust me, I know.
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Yeah I'm running AOKP right now and it is very smooth. Very comparable to the GNexus in most tasks. I've owned one, so trust me, I know.
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i came from a DX2 and honestly i absolutely love this phone more, this phone is for one much more enjoyable than my dx2 because of the open source, true open source, no locked bootloaders to overcome, and no waiting.
the development for this 2 year old phone is quite awesome! a phone designed to run GB is running AOSP ICS and its running amazingly,i believe & feel that the development for this phone will continue, maybe not for forever, but for a loooooooooooooooong time at least
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i came from a DX2 and honestly i absolutely love this phone more, this phone is for one much more enjoyable than my dx2 because of the open source, true open source, no locked bootloaders to overcome, and no waiting.
the development for this 2 year old phone is quite awesome! a phone designed to run GB is running AOSP ICS and its running amazingly,i believe & feel that the development for this phone will continue, maybe not for forever, but for a loooooooooooooooong time at least
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Yeah I had X2 for a few months, and it was horrible. One true dev, and another few off and on. The software really crippled that phone.
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Yeah I had X2 for a few months, and it was horrible. One true dev, and another few off and on. The software really crippled that phone.
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it wasnt the software that crippled it, it was the way Motorola handled the software by locking down their damned phones. thats the worst of it all
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it wasnt the software that crippled it, it was the way Motorola handled the software by locking down their damned phones. thats the worst of it all
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Yeah that's what I meant. You couldn't remove all the Moto software. Same thing with the RAZR, it bottle-necked like crazy, and you couldn't fix it. All Moto dual-cores seem to do that. It's that jumpy lag that pops up every now and again.
I think it's a good phone overall, but avoid it if you're a heavy GPS user. Now that I've upgraded to a LG Spectrum my Fascinate is freed up to play with. I came from a Droid Eris to the Fascinate and found the Samsung style of android daunting with Odin, PIT files, MTD vs non MTD, Voodoo, multiple versions of CWM. It will make your head spin. My Eris once rooted, all I had to do was throw zips on the SD card and flash them, I didn't have to think about can I go from ROM A to ROM B without soft-bricking the phone etc. One of the best things about the Fascinate was they show up on Cowboom.com from time to time for about $70 with no contract.
My spectrum has a very good screen, but still doesn't have the richness of a Samsung display. One thing I could always hold over the "IClones" that are everywhere when they go on and on about their precious retina display was, ok you have a high pixel density, but you also have a smaller screen, and the colors feel washed out.
My screen is bigger and has colors that POP!
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Yeah that's what I meant. You couldn't remove all the Moto software. Same thing with the RAZR, it bottle-necked like crazy, and you couldn't fix it. All Moto dual-cores seem to do that. It's that jumpy lag that pops up every now and again.
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True, if Motorola would give us the key to unlock the phones then the phone might blow the fascinate out of the water with numerous kernels and everything, but being locked down the Motorola Droid X2 running GB 2.3.5 compared to a stock Fascinate running the same OS the fascinate seems to blow the Droid X2 outta the water IMO. I think blur is a total waste of space on the phone and the kernel being locked is even worse, but this has been said on every human known forum for development on the internet.
I wish Motorola would do what Samsung is doing and providing the phone's being unlocked at the get go, but now that I have Samsung, I'm never going back!
sorry for the long winded rant that kept going back to the fact that Motorola needs to provide an unlock tool without having to buy a new phone without a warranty.
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True, if Motorola would give us the key to unlock the phones then the phone might blow the fascinate out of the water with numerous kernels and everything, but being locked down the Motorola Droid X2 running GB 2.3.5 compared to a stock Fascinate running the same OS the fascinate seems to blow the Droid X2 outta the water IMO. I think blur is a total waste of space on the phone and the kernel being locked is even worse, but this has been said on every human known forum for development on the internet.
I wish Motorola would do what Samsung is doing and providing the phone's being unlocked at the get go, but now that I have Samsung, I'm never going back!
sorry for the long winded rant that kept going back to the fact that Motorola needs to provide an unlock tool without having to buy a new phone without a warranty.
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Its fine, I completely agree.
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the development for this 2 year old phone is quite awesome! a phone designed to run GB is running AOSP ICS
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This phone was designed to run 2.1 eclair when it was released 2 years ago. Which is even more impressive.
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Its fine, I completely agree.
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haha i figured since you've had two up-to-date Motorola phones. If I may ask, why'd you switch from the nexus to (possibly) the fascinate? or even better question, why aren't you using the nexus over the fascinate?
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This phone was designed to run 2.1 eclair when it was released 2 years ago. Which is even more impressive.
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yes sir, that definitely is impressive. I forgot it was designed and released with Eclair 2.1. I just bought the phone and I believe it was on froyo, but then I odin'd it to GB and went straight to ICS.
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haha i figured since you've had two up-to-date Motorola phones. If I may ask, why'd you switch from the nexus to (possibly) the fascinate? or even better question, why aren't you using the nexus over the fascinate?
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yes sir, that definitely is impressive. I forgot it was designed and released with Eclair 2.1. I just bought the phone and I believe it was on froyo, but then I odin'd it to GB and went straight to ICS.
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What I really miss is the Rezound. I traded my Nexus for a RAZR because I thought surely Motorola had improved since the X2. I was wrong, clearly. I ended up trading my RAZR for a Trophy plus some nice headphones then the Trophy for the Fascinate. I'd love a Rezound though lol.
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What I really miss is the Rezound. I traded my Nexus for a RAZR because I thought surely Motorola had improved since the X2. I was wrong, clearly. I ended up trading my RAZR for a Trophy plus some nice headphones then the Trophy for the Fascinate. I'd love a Rezound though lol.
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so you had 4g devices and then traded them for a 3g device? idk if I could do that if I had 4g, I don't know if I'd like a HTC device anymore, I honestly think i'm going to stick with Samsung.
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so you had 4g devices and then traded them for a 3g device? idk if I could do that if I had 4g, I don't know if I'd like a HTC device anymore, I honestly think i'm going to stick with Samsung.
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Don't have 4G coverage in my area so it didn't matter.
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Don't have 4G coverage in my area so it didn't matter.
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that's how I feel, that's why I went with the Fascinate instead of the Nexus or anything 4g.
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that's how I feel, that's why I went with the Fascinate instead of the Nexus or anything 4g.
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May buy another Rezound though, because they just put 4G in my area.
I agree i'm loving the fascinate its a great phone. I have had several other phones, including blackberry witch was a disaster. Fascinate is defiantly one of the best phones i have had.
I have been hearing rumors about HTC going under and the DNA not receiving any future updates.
I need to know if anybody has some Information about this because I just bought this phone and if I am not going to receive updates I might as well return it.
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Itzvik said:
I have been hearing rumors about HTC going under and the DNA not receiving any future updates.
I need to know if anybody has some Information about this because I just bought this phone and if I am not going to receive updates I might as well return it.
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If the phone doesn't do what you want it to do now, by all means return it.
HTC's not going under, rheyre still a major player in the hardware scene.
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Here's a good thing to live by and you'll be happy...buy a phone for what it is not what it will be
I Iike the phone now, but why would other manufacturers devices get supported and mine not. Like the galaxy s3 will mostikely receive android 4.2. This phone should be due for the 4.1.2 update soon.
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I Iike the phone now, but why would other manufacturers devices get supported and mine not. Like the galaxy s3 will mostikely receive android 4.2. This phone should be due for the 4.1.2 update soon.
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Thats manufacture dependent, samsung isn't the best one to update their phones,
HTC isn't neither that good, i don't think non of them are good in the "update" industry.
due to the age of this device i would say yes on android 4.2. however when is another question due to HTC not giving any good information (neither does any company)
4.2 blows. When I got it on my nexus 7 I immediately went through a huge process to downgrade back to 4.1. What features of 4.2 do you want that can't be done on 4.1? Multiple users? Doing that on the n7 made the entire device lag so horribly
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4.2 blows. When I got it on my nexus 7 I immediately went through a huge process to downgrade back to 4.1. What features of 4.2 do you want that can't be done on 4.1? Multiple users? Doing that on the n7 made the entire device lag so horribly
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What was so bad about 4.2 exactly? First I've heard about this (I've mainly heard good things about 4.2).
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What was so bad about 4.2 exactly? First I've heard about this (I've mainly heard good things about 4.2).
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There are quite a few issues that Google needs to fix before I let 4.2 on my phone
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...major-issues-plaguing-googles-newest-release/
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yeah just go on the N7 forums and read everybody complaining about it.
stock AOSP blew because the lockscreen sucked. the new font with the randomly bolded hour is the ugliest thing google has ever done. on top of that, every time you powered the screen on, the sides would flash to remind you that you can add widgets...so everytime you turned it on it lookedl ike it was in edit mode or something.
besides that, multi user control was stupid and lagged the device out badly..multiple reports of this, and once people deleted the second account, it was fine.
terrible battery life, longer time to charge, random reboots..
on top of that, the pulldonw on the tablets was awful because left side was notifications, and right side was quick settings..but many of us are right handed, and use our right thumbs for dropdown, so doing the dropdown would always bring down quicksettings. very annoying. on a phone it wasn't an issue though,s ince you needed two fingers to drop down quick settings.
besides that though, people were just complaining of random lag and bugs..apparently 4.2 on that thing was a complete f-up. and they still never fixed the scrolling bounceback issue..ridiculous!
Also if you have any apps that toggle airplane for you, you can say goodbye to that in 4.2
Ok!
I was just wondering because I bought the phone with good hopes for it. I don't want to invest in a phone that will not receive any future support.
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jay
Wanted to tip you over into 1700 on the meter. Oh well, one shy.
Thanks for the tip about not rushing to update when available.
Yeah guys, I'm saying we had some pretty bad experiences on the n7...hopefully it's different but don't hold your breath. This phone runs amazing, what more do you want out of it right now? I say wait until key lime pie for the next big upgrade.
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the best thing for the OP to do is return the phone.
Itzvik said:
Ok!
I was just wondering because I bought the phone with good hopes for it. I don't want to invest in a phone that will not receive any future support.
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Don't worry, enjoy the phone. HTC isnt going anywhere & updates will come, just when, no one knows...
Return the phone? DAMN all that I asked for was of this phone was going to be supported.
Stop jumping to conclusions peeps
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Return the phone? DAMN all that I asked for was of this phone was going to be supported.
Stop jumping to conclusions peeps
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YOU said that if YOUR phone doesn't get updates YOU might as well return it. No one jumped to conclusions, they just read the op.
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I have been hearing rumors about HTC going under and the DNA not receiving any future updates.
I need to know if anybody has some Information about this because I just bought this phone and if I am not going to receive updates I might as well return it.
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Lol you did say that, dude.
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Lol.... Wouldn't you if you knew your phone was never going to get supported.
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