Hey guys im looking to buy a motorolla Atrix or a LG optimus 2x...
iv read up alot on the 2 and it seems tho the hardware of the atrix is far superior, the LG still is better when it comes to functionality...
Also read about with the Atrix you CANNOT connect the phone via HDMI to the tv and play games or whatever... can only view videos...
is this true...?? can someone confirm or give some advice...?? how are the custom roms for this...??
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Hey guys im looking to buy a motorolla Atrix or a LG optimus 2x...
iv read up alot on the 2 and it seems tho the hardware of the atrix is far superior, the LG still is better when it comes to functionality...
Also read about with the Atrix you CANNOT connect the phone via HDMI to the tv and play games or whatever... can only view videos...
is this true...?? can someone confirm or give some advice...?? how are the custom roms for this...??
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well ill try my best to explain what i think/know. first off imo the atrix is better. atrix 1gb ram vs optimus 512mb. atrix also has a higher resolution screen. webtop is a big plus. and its even better for people like me who dont have the laptop dock. i use the hdmi hack and i can use the phone as a trackpad/keyboard for webtop on a tv battery life is also good imo. i get about 2 days out of my atrix. thats like 300 texts per day. some data usage. and occasionally a call. with webtop you can sort of "mirror" your phone. you can open your phone screen in a window and maximize it. other then that im not 100% sure on what mirroring options are there. oh and the mobile HD media center is really cool. music, pics, hd video. its great.
i guess in your situation. out of the box, atrix may not be the best choice. but now that the bootloaders unlocked and if your willing to go through with unlocking it. this phone is only going to get better.
(i love my atrix)
DrunkFuX666 said:
Hey guys im looking to buy a motorolla Atrix or a LG optimus 2x...
iv read up alot on the 2 and it seems tho the hardware of the atrix is far superior, the LG still is better when it comes to functionality...
Also read about with the Atrix you CANNOT connect the phone via HDMI to the tv and play games or whatever... can only view videos...
is this true...?? can someone confirm or give some advice...?? how are the custom roms for this...??
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The Atrix is held back by motoblur, but once we get some decent ROMs it'll start flying. Since it has more ram that the optimus 2X, its more future proof.
There are mods that enable the HDMI mirroring functionality on the Froyo firmwares, so you can do it if you're fine with rooting (which shouldnt be an issue considering the site this is on)
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well ill try my best to explain what i think/know. first off imo the atrix is better. atrix 1gb ram vs optimus 512mb. atrix also has a higher resolution screen. webtop is a big plus. and its even better for people like me who dont have the laptop dock. i use the hdmi hack and i can use the phone as a trackpad/keyboard for webtop on a tv battery life is also good imo. i get about 2 days out of my atrix. thats like 300 texts per day. some data usage. and occasionally a call. with webtop you can sort of "mirror" your phone. you can open your phone screen in a window and maximize it. other then that im not 100% sure on what mirroring options are there. oh and the mobile HD media center is really cool. music, pics, hd video. its great.
i guess in your situation. out of the box, atrix may not be the best choice. but now that the bootloaders unlocked and if your willing to go through with unlocking it. this phone is only going to get better.
(i love my atrix)
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Thanks for the insight... thats the prob that i had... rather HAVE a Samsung Galaxy S at the moment... and my brother has been on my case for that... so like the only phones that seem to be in my range are the Optimus or the Atrix... but like iv had the samsung for a few months and loved the flashing roms and customizing it and what not... hence i reallllyyy like all that stuff hence was looking if i can do the same with the atrix...
and like whats this whole bootloader stuff i justdont seem to get it... like does that mean im tied down to the hideous moto blur launcher...?? can i not use launcher pro and other launchers...??? im a little comfused withall this new stuff... tho i learnt quite a bit about the kernels and roms and bla bla... but bootloaders were never an issue on the sgs hence a little comfused... :S
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The Atrix is held back by motoblur, but once we get some decent ROMs it'll start flying. Since it has more ram that the optimus 2X, its more future proof.
There are mods that enable the HDMI mirroring functionality on the Froyo firmwares, so you can do it if you're fine with rooting (which shouldnt be an issue considering the site this is on)
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thanks man... and no i have no probs with rooting... i think thats a must on all phones... but like im not too aware of this bootloader stuff... used ODIN quite a bit for putting roms on my SGS but dont know how diff it will be with moto... tho im not too fond of moto in general... just seems as you said the specs seem to be alot better than the LG... i felt the 512 ram for my sgs was less so the 512 on a dual core seems waaayyyyy tooo lessss :S
In my understanding the whole bootloader stuff is what limits the Atrix from running to its potential. Motoblur UI lags the Atrix and yes u can still use launcher pro etc..I believe pretty much everyone here uses a similar kind. If u want an out of the box phone then perhaps look elsewhere. If you are patient enuff and don't mind searching thru the entire theme/apps/dev section for Atrix then what they have to offer will not disappoint u.
Goodluck!
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Thanks for the insight... thats the prob that i had... rather HAVE a Samsung Galaxy S at the moment... and my brother has been on my case for that... so like the only phones that seem to be in my range are the Optimus or the Atrix... but like iv had the samsung for a few months and loved the flashing roms and customizing it and what not... hence i reallllyyy like all that stuff hence was looking if i can do the same with the atrix...
and like whats this whole bootloader stuff i justdont seem to get it... like does that mean im tied down to the hideous moto blur launcher...?? can i not use launcher pro and other launchers...??? im a little comfused withall this new stuff... tho i learnt quite a bit about the kernels and roms and bla bla... but bootloaders were never an issue on the sgs hence a little comfused... :S
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thanks surfer dude lol
anyway yea i guess ill go with the Atrix... i heard the bootloader was just unlocked now... so should be a good thing i imagine...?? I think the Atrix specs are off the charts... it all boils down to the firmwares and if it can impress in terms of actual performance...
by the way i read the screen is not that great... esp in sunlight... that will pose a big problem i think :S
The atrix screen is amazing in light.
The amoleds are not.
so... right now... what should i buy? an atrix? or an optimus 2x?... i see that atrix 4g has better screen... more ram... but can i use other roms (locked bootloader)? thanks for any advise!
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so... right now... what should i buy? an atrix? or an optimus 2x?... i see that atrix 4g has better screen... more ram... but can i use other roms (locked bootloader)? thanks for any advise!
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ohhh but theres no international version of the atrix... thats a no for me too bad
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ohhh but theres no international version of the atrix... thats a no for me too bad
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No no dude what are you talking about... im the person that started the thread and as you can see I ended up with the Atrix ... im using a international one so I assure you they are available... you just unfortunately happen to see more AT&T written everywhere... so don't worry...
No as for which phone to buy... personally ill say im quite happy with the phone... EXCEPT... the screen which I was worried about from the start... it may have more pixels than the norm bust the colors are too damn dull for my liking... again reason for me not liking it is because I came from a Super Amoled display of the Samsung Galaxy S... otherwise im sure I wouldn't be complaining... in that respect the LG screen is better and more crisp and better colors compared to this but the ATRIX screen is brighter due to the pentile display having more white pixels which increase the pixel ratio...
So that's it for the screens...
Where I feel the optimus takes a kick in the jewels is the Ram... I don't get why they would only put 512 ram in a dualcore phone when 512 ram was barely enough for a singlecore on gingerbread... hence the ATRIX wins by far on terms of ram...
Now for support... unfortunately iv seen alot more support until now for the optimus than the ATRIX... you barely see any atrix specific apps or things just havnt seemed to accept the atrix to include it in the support list... even when you search apps you try to look for a similar spec phone and hope that same file will work for you... rather annoying...
A HUGE problem I felt with the Atrix is the front facing camera... it is by far the WORST camera iv used for video calls... so if skype and gtalk video are imp for you I say beware... if you don't have the sun or spotlights around the camera barely sees you during the night... even with 2 60 watt bulbs around... if there isn't literally light on "YOUR FACE... GODDAMMIT"... Then its no good... at all...
As for roms and all that other good stuff... thankfully the bootloader HAS been unlocked and we have quite a few roms now... and Theyr quite good... to each their own ofcourse...
So all in all... its a tough call... if your not coming from a super amoled screen no need to worry about the screen and go for thethe atrix... if you are then you will probably feel very irritated... also if video calls are imp... well I don't know the LG quality so can't comment... but the atrix is sh*t...
And tho the optimus has loads of support... let's just hope more slowly cones in for the atrix since its a newer phone...
Hope this helped... anymore questions feel free to ask
Sent from my Motorola Atrix
thanks for your response man... well first i need to sell my nexus one hahahah then ill see what should i buy
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thanks for your response man... well first i need to sell my nexus one hahahah then ill see what should i buy
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Well in that case, I had lent my Atrix to a friend for a week because he wanted to take it for a test run ... he was also using a nexus one and he Loved the Atrix ... the screen didn't bother him at all... he actually liked it more due to the resolution difference... hence... id advise the Atrix probably... and you may want to hurry and change your phone... once the nexus prime hits your nexus one value will plummet more...
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My nexus one is working in retirement. It is my alarm clock since i got the dock and my tablet for at night when i cant sleep. And its still rocking cyan 6.1.
I voided my warranty.
agreed
DrunkFuX666 said:
No no dude what are you talking about... im the person that started the thread and as you can see I ended up with the Atrix ... im using a international one so I assure you they are available... you just unfortunately happen to see more AT&T written everywhere... so don't worry...
No as for which phone to buy... personally ill say im quite happy with the phone... EXCEPT... the screen which I was worried about from the start... it may have more pixels than the norm bust the colors are too damn dull for my liking... again reason for me not liking it is because I came from a Super Amoled display of the Samsung Galaxy S... otherwise im sure I wouldn't be complaining... in that respect the LG screen is better and more crisp and better colors compared to this but the ATRIX screen is brighter due to the pentile display having more white pixels which increase the pixel ratio...
So that's it for the screens...
Where I feel the optimus takes a kick in the jewels is the Ram... I don't get why they would only put 512 ram in a dualcore phone when 512 ram was barely enough for a singlecore on gingerbread... hence the ATRIX wins by far on terms of ram...
Now for support... unfortunately iv seen alot more support until now for the optimus than the ATRIX... you barely see any atrix specific apps or things just havnt seemed to accept the atrix to include it in the support list... even when you search apps you try to look for a similar spec phone and hope that same file will work for you... rather annoying...
A HUGE problem I felt with the Atrix is the front facing camera... it is by far the WORST camera iv used for video calls... so if skype and gtalk video are imp for you I say beware... if you don't have the sun or spotlights around the camera barely sees you during the night... even with 2 60 watt bulbs around... if there isn't literally light on "YOUR FACE... GODDAMMIT"... Then its no good... at all...
As for roms and all that other good stuff... thankfully the bootloader HAS been unlocked and we have quite a few roms now... and Theyr quite good... to each their own ofcourse...
So all in all... its a tough call... if your not coming from a super amoled screen no need to worry about the screen and go for thethe atrix... if you are then you will probably feel very irritated... also if video calls are imp... well I don't know the LG quality so can't comment... but the atrix is sh*t...
And tho the optimus has loads of support... let's just hope more slowly cones in for the atrix since its a newer phone...
Hope this helped... anymore questions feel free to ask
Sent from my Motorola Atrix
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im also hating the moment when i bought atrix over o2x...display resolution on atrix is sh*t and i only hate this feature...it's sucks gpu perofamnce alot.. :crying:
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Hi to all of you good people I am a person like most of you and I am tired from all this s..t. I started using Android like 5 months ago and I had almost most of the phones Nexus One, Mytouch 4G, Samsung Captivate, Htc G2, Dell Streak, Galaxy Tab and so on... and now Samsung Vibrant. Thats in 5 months, dont you guys think this is s..t? We are trying to find the perfect phone that evrything works perfect from camera, FFCamera, Video codec support and all the things u already know plus software updates that all the time is a mess. I dont know I'm already tired from all this bull s..t man. What u guys think???
I think if you feel that way you should go by an iPhone or a Blackberry
You had all those phones in 5 months? A different phone every 2.5 weeks? Sounds kind of ridiculous to me.. lol
No........
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Hi to all of you good people I am a person like most of you and I am tired from all this s..t. I started using Android like 5 months ago and I had almost most of the phones Nexus One, Mytouch 4G, Samsung Captivate, Htc G2, Dell Streak, Galaxy Tab and so on... and now Samsung Vibrant. Thats in 5 months, dont you guys think this is s..t? We are trying to find the perfect phone that evrything works perfect from camera, FFCamera, Video codec support and all the things u already know plus software updates that all the time is a mess. I dont know I'm already tired from all this bull s..t man. What u guys think???
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Are you really trying to win over a bunch of people to not only give up on the Vibrant in a Vibrant forum, but Android as a whole in a Vibrant forum? If you haven't found a ROM that does everything then stop flashing betas and experimentals. There's multiple ROMs with everything working, and unless you don't have a job or a life, some bugs that exist aren't even a big deal. You make it sound like every ROM is either missing texting or phone calls. Think about how much our phone has the ability to do and then imagine making a ROM and having to make sure EVERYTHING works, from a setting menu FC to a data connection.
Android has climbed to the leader in smartphone preference in the U.S., you're alone on this one bud. If you've had that many devices, and couldn't manage to have one operate in a stable manner, then you are most definitely doing something wrong. And why all those phones, like, a captivate and a vibrant? did you even understand that those are pretty much the same thing? different carriers? that could be a problem right there. It's posts like these that make it so hard not to verbally assault you with my keyboard.
If you went through half a dozen phones in 5 months and still not satisfied, chances are it's not the phones that are the problem.
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Even if he had gone through that many phones in that period of time, he should have at least been kept interested.
ok tell me one android phone that has everything perfect just one tell me
HTC hd2
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and the reason i got vibrant after captivate becouse captivate was locked down with At&t u culd not load apps from other places , i know i culd get around that but why? why i have to get around that its suppose to be open????????? any phone has something i know all the phones like my 10 fingers which phone has what nice and what sh.t...
u might be right
Mytouch 4G - (Yellow tint on the screen, too much bloatware, sh.t speaker...)
Samsung vibrantand Captivate - (No software update??? no ffcamera, no camera flash, lag...)
Dell streak - (1.6??? and very bad quality plastics, speaker)
G2- (bad speaker, camera, hinge,...)
Galaxy tab - (bad cameras, apps don't fit the screen and its a questinon if u get the 2.3 or not???)
this is some of the examples
samomamo said:
Nexus One, Mytouch 4G, Samsung Captivate, Htc G2, Dell Streak, Galaxy Tab and so on... and now Samsung Vibrant. Thats in 5 months, dont you guys think this is s..t?
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You bought and (I'm guessing) sold seven android devices in five months?? Sorry brother but I'm not buying that line of bull.
My guess is that you are an Apple fanboy that came over here to ruffle some feathers. You clearly have a lot of time on your hands.
BTW, all of the phones you list are very high-quality devices capable of performing at the highest level of what is available to smartphone consumers. I'd love to know how each phone failed to meet your exacting personal standard?
f Apple I love android but the same time im tired from it. and ye i have mony to burn thats why i get all the phones and i love phones.
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Mytouch 4G - (Yellow tint on the screen, too much bloatware, sh.t speaker...)
Samsung vibrantand Captivate - (No software update??? no ffcamera, no camera flash, lag...)
Dell streak - (1.6??? and very bad quality plastics, speaker)
G2- (bad speaker, camera, hinge,...)
Galaxy tab - (bad cameras, apps don't fit the screen and its a questinon if u get the 2.3 or not???)
this is some of the examples
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Everything you list here is either A) subjective or B) a hardware/carrier issue. None of it is an indictment of Android as an operating system. One of the beauties of the Android OS is that it is available on many different phones (with varying hardware configurations) on many different carriers.
But I don't think you're really interested in all that.
ok try to defend it pure android? its beautiful that nexus one's screen is non responsive. and nexus s is a joke wit low def video and no sd support thats beautiful?
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ok try to defend it pure android? its beautiful that nexus one's screen is non responsive. and nexus s is a joke wit low def video and no sd support thats beautiful?
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Then I don't know what to tell you man. Take your money and buy a phone that is to your liking on whatever platform you wish. What exactly is this thread about anyway?? What answer are you looking for??
Deleted, not even worth it.
i just wanted to know if anyone is getting tired from all this that google has to make a one perfect device with everything so it works with the android software that they made... am i wrong?? dont u guys thing Google supouse to do that? they have the money and the software they just have to make the hardware that goes with it.
Google makes money from android now they shuld invest in makeing a perfect device.
so my contract will be up in May 4th.
after my horrid experience with the Backflip, im kind of on the iffy side about the atrix since its running motoblur.
the atrix seems like a good candidate. espcialy because of the lapdock. as im going to college and wanted a android tablet. but the atrix seems way better ATM and i can get it for around 450 at radio shack.
but first of all. i would want some general feed back from owners as you all.
pros and cons basically.
Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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rjayflo said:
Atrix is a great phone to upgrade too. I myself came from a Backflip (CM6 installed). BLUR shouldn't be an issue since the phone is so powerful...but use LP or ADW etc as your launcher
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backflip, was a good attempt at a design of a phone unique, but with that they equipped it just sucked. i moved on to a HTC HD2 which is what i have right now. but i want my 3G back and 4G as my area will be available for 4G.
thanks for the tip on the launchers.
This phone is very well built especially in an otterbox case. It just feels like a sturdy phone. The camera is really good. I just upgraded from an Xperia X10 with loads of tweaks. I thought that was running really fast, and this manages to run even faster at stock. You can literally click almost anything and it will open immediately. Cons: I really like motoblur actually, but I wish there were more settings for syncing.
i keep on viewing more videos on youtube regarding the phone. called att today in the morning. i want it. but they are slapping a 45 tethering fee to my plan, becuase of the lapdock. i dont want to go over 200 bucks a month as its what we are paying right now right around 170ish 80ish.
but i want it.
but hen again, it makes me think about the whole motoblur thing. on the backflip, it was laggy and useless. i ended up putting a deblured rom on it.
by any chance does anybody know if you need to have a tethering plan?
You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
ill look that up. as for the screen. PenTile? imma hit google up. lol. but ill take a good look and compare to my HD2. screen doesnt really bug me. unless its low quality. then yes we have an issue. but other than that. were fine. thanks for the tip.
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You can get past the need for the tethering plan, I don't know personally because in Canada there are no tethering charges (except for the iPhone) but there are threads on bypassing it in the Dev forum. As for your original question, take a good look at the screen in a store or somewhere before you buy it. For a screen that is 960x540 the PenTile effect completely ruins it for me, and the color saturation is terrible. If it doesn't bother you than that its a great phone.
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I completely disagree. The screen looks very good, albet a little pixilated when displaying solid colors. My friend's droid x's screen looks washed out and low quality in comparison.
Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
Cons
Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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Pros
Most powerful phone. It is more powerful than most android phones coming out even the SGS2 can't touch it. Look at some benchmarking threads the Atrix gets in the 2900 with android 2.2 the SGS2 has 3000 but it is android 2.3 and does not push out as many pixels.
Great Battery life
1080p will be coming soon
4G coming soon
Very good build and very slim as well
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Locked bootloader (Not a problem unless you like custom roms)
A bit laggy with a couple bugs (Could be fixed soon)
- AT&T
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like i said screen isnt really a big issue. as long it looks okay and a bit on the HD side im good.
ive been reading review alot lately (dont wanna **** up liek i did with the backflip) i hear battery is a drag. that it dies quickly because of the dual core processor. the 4G has to come eventually as its has 4G slapped on to its name
AT&T is not really a big issue. ha i got service where i live. not one single dropped call.
now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
How are you getting it for 450 from radio shack? If you don't mind me asking.
I returned mine for the zoom and will prolly grab it again for that price.
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i visted my local radio shack about 3 days ago.
Phone 150
lapdock 329.99
so correction about 479.99
Atrix & lapdock deal @ radioshack
Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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Oh with an upgrade? Damn that's a pretty good prove. I paid for it in full, 650 is crazy for a phone...
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yeah. 600 for the phone is whack! i got a HD2 currently got it off cragislist for 150 guy needed the money.
best buy has the phone for 99.99 and the dock for 399.99. a total of about 500+
radio shack seems the best option. around 480 not bad 20 bucks is 20 bucks i can buy a case or something.
You guys are lucky you don't live in Australia, to buy any decent phone will set you back 800ish, Atrix 4G online in an Australian store (MobiCity.com.au) will set you back $1000 its stupid.
As for the question, I like my Atrix, its heaps better than my HTC 7 Trophy and faster than my iPhone 4 in some cases. The locked bootloader basically stops you flashing custom ROMs onto the phone entirely, only fake ROMs that are essentially very well built themes. Considering this is my first android though, I have yet to care about custom ROMs. The screen is good unless you're viewing solid colors which is when it goes pixelated and motoblur did annoy me as soon as I saw it, which is the reason I shoved GingerBlur on it as soon as I could.
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now here are two noobish questions.
1) what exactly is a locked bootloader? and is it good or bad?
2) can someone explain the whole dual core thing? i have heard and read two different things. i read that it is a 1 GHz processor thats it. i have heard from video reviews that its a processor with 2 1Ghz chips, that making it 2 Ghz. jsut wondering.
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1) In simplified terms, a Bootloader is low-level piece of software that loads the main OS (Android in this case). It's roughly equivalent of the PC BIOS.
Being locked means that its going to be very difficult to replace it.
You'd want to replace it in order to replace the Android OS with a newer version. The Manufactures and carriers are terribly slow to release new versions. The version of android on the atrix is version out of date (2.2) and almost a year old. It also means you can easily remove the extra 'value' crap motorola and the carriers like to add (like motoblur).
2) The chip runs at 1Ghz, but it's two cores on the chip which means it can 'theoretically' do twice as much per hertz. In practise, Android isn't that dual-core aware. It's likely Ice-Cream will bring more optimizations for dual-cores. Which we think is due late this year.
But Motorola would rather sell you a new phone than update it, hence why a locked bootloader is a pain. Consumers provide far better support than the manufactures or carriers
I see. I wonder if they will skip 2.3 and just go ahead to ice cream since ice cream is for dual core phones.
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i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
thread closed.
for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
crnkoj said:
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
temp91 said:
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
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Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
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I don't know a lot about the g2x, but my choice would be the atrix due to the more ram. More ram makes your phone more future proof. I also like the higher resolution of the atrix and CM7 is progressing nicely for the atrix so you will have a way to get rid of the motoblur crap.
I don't know how much hands on you've had with the G2X, but it is only snappier in it's fresh out of the box state. My coworker bought one and once you start installing apps and setting up widgets, it started to feel choppier. The ram does make a difference. Don't let the reviews and benchmarks fool ya. The Atrix is faster than the G2X in real world situations. But the G2X is faster fresh out of the box due to it having a vanilla version of Android installed.
Lots of the people here have chosen the Atrix over the G2X, so it's going to be tough to find much support for LG here. That said, the reason I chose the Atrix over the G2X is because of the accessories that come with the Atrix. The lapdock really interested me, and I finally got one last week. For what I need, it's been an awesome addition. The bigger battery in the Atrix will also go a long way (in my opinion). I wish the camera was a little better in the Atrix, but that's what I have a point and shoot for. All in all, and this is just my opinion, there are very few areas where the LG has a distinct advantage over the Atrix.
Also, with the recent Google purchase of Motorola Mobility, it does increase our chance of getting Ice Cream Sandwich at some point.
Even though Google said it will keep Motorola Mobility as a separate company, it does increase the chances of pushing future updates sooner for us.
The atrix will get ice cream sandwich.
Officially.
Guaranteed.
If I were on T-Mobile I would get the phone that works on their 3G/4G. And that is the G2X.
If that doesn't matter to you then the Atrix is the better phone overall.
Atrix with CM7 feels as snappy as my computer, but i dont buy a phone and expect it to run crysis. for everyday use, atrix with cm7 is very snappy while stable.
my 2 cents
One feature from the G2x that I wish that Motorola would eventually enable on the Atrix would be HDMI mirroring. By default, you only can only access Motorola's media player when you use the hdmi-out (or the webtop mode if you use a lapdock/HD multimedia dock, or mod). Currently, the only way to get HDMI mirroring on the Atrix is if you unlock the bootloader, root, and flash the hdmi mirroring mod (but landscape mode isn't supported yet).
But whether you're hoping to use video calls on the Atrix or G2x, you'll have to resort to Google Talk's video chat (or other non-Skype alternative) because Skype hasn't decided to support phones with a Tegra 2 chipset. Google Talk's video chat can be enabled on the Atrix over 3G through existing mods/custom ROMs.
If you're planning to use your phone for business/power point presentations, the G2x is probably the better choice. If you never use those features, the Atrix is a pretty solid phone (and has a fingerprint reader!). If you can freely choose carriers, I would say go with the Droid Bionic or Photon. They're like the Atrix except less crippled by Motorola.
Magnetox said:
The atrix will get ice cream sandwich.
Officially.
Guaranteed.
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Proofs??????????????
tomniu said:
Hi I am buying a new phone, and I have 2 phones in mind: g2x or atrix.
I am on tmobile but i can unlock atrix to work with tmobile.
Now which one would you recommend?
G2x:
Better camera
Snappier
Better screen(IPS is brighter and more vibrant)
Atrix:
more ram
Bigger storage
higher resolution screen
Please help. I know this is in the atrix forum, but please give unbiased suggestions.
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I love my Atrix and it's amazing, but you could save your money and wait for the Nexus Prime. I'll probably be waiting for it also.
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I read on the G2X forum that a LOT of people had screen bleeding problems.
One question that's being baffling for a while now: why does the g2x get 50fps or even 117fps in the quadrant standard graphics test, while any other phone(including atrix) only gets 60fps max?
tomniu said:
One question that's being baffling for a while now: why does the g2x get 50fps or even 117fps in the quadrant standard graphics test, while any other phone(including atrix) only gets 60fps max?
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I pulled these comments from users in the SGS2 forum, maybe they apply to the Atrix too?
Hollow.Droid said:
The display registers at 60MHz meaning any fps above this will not look smoother or in any way better. In fact you'd simply be pushing the device harder using more battery for zero improvements. Apart from certain benchmarks of course, which is a ridiculous reason to mod a device anyway.
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developing said:
The screen of the Galaxy S II has a refresh rate of 60 Hertz, meaning the screen physically cannot display any material higher than 60 frames per second. If you uncap the software frame rate, then the CPU and GPU of the phone will work harder to render as much material as possible - let's say in this case, we have something that has 80 frames to display in a single second. Yet since the screen cannot display 80 frames per second, 20 of those frames will never be shown, and the resulting movement could even suffer from tearing because of the mismatched refresh rate and frame rate. In order to fix tearing, a technique called vertical sync is employed, which would cut frame rates to 60fps in order to eliminate the extra frames which cause tearing.
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I was facing the same choice before I got the Atrix.
The biggest factor that turned me towards the Atrix is: G2X has a VERY high return rate due to screen bleeding issues and other HARDWARE bugs. Last time I read articles were speculating that G2X will get pulled due to hardware issues, but I don't know how that ended.
I would think that you can find more development work for Atrix than G2x.
As such, you can find more customised rom for atrix than g2x.
tian105 said:
Atrix with CM7 feels as snappy as my computer, but i dont buy a phone and expect it to run crysis. for everyday use, atrix with cm7 is very snappy while stable.
my 2 cents
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Give it more time, it's only gonna get better...
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I chose the Atrix over the G2X, GS2 and HTC Sensation. Why? Because the G2X has less RAM,the GS2 reminded me of the HD2 ...and the Sensation also had less ram and Sense ui . I also love the Fingerprint scanner on the Atrix and that the phone is still compact enough to fit in my jeans.
Motorola Atrix 4G
How many more Atrix vs <whatever> - Which one should I get? threads do we really have to see here? If you have to ask.... you dont need it. A simple google search is more than enough to provide all the information one would need to make an informed decision (god forbid you might have to actually read)
jgc121 said:
How many more Atrix vs <whatever> - Which one should I get? threads do we really have to see here? If you have to ask.... you dont need it. A simple google search is more than enough to provide all the information one would need to make an informed decision (god forbid you might have to actually read)
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+1 Actually you are right.
It's quiet easy to find even video comparisons of Phone X vs Phone Y on professional Android blogs. These reviews will give you all the insight you need.
Ive got my freind who wants to swap me his optimus 3d for my galaxy s2 and i was wondering what is the pros and cons? what would i gain and what would i also lose in doing so?
Thanks in advance
stick to what you have. the only thing that the optimus has is 3D pictures and really that is not that important anyway...if you are into 3D then try it for a few days but do not swap your galaxy s2 cause you have the best android phone at this moment of time so you be silly if you swapped it.
in my very valued and educated opinion, I must tell you I poop on lg after a night of drinking and wings. Hope this helps.
Why does he want to swap? Because he found out that the SGS2 beats the LG O 3D in all reviews or because he misses some feature he finds very important that his phone lacks but yours has? Ask him that and post your answers here
Other than that, I would say you do some research into the two, have a play with the two and if you find his phone to be better for what you want to do with it, why not swap?
My friend has the 3D as well.. Believe me definately sgs2.. 3D is an awsome phone don't get me wrong but for me Sgs2 is the winner..
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Definitely SGS II... The Optimus 3D doesn't bring anything better to the game other than 3D... i find it useless cause my head starts hurting after looking at the screen for some time... but it may just be me... i have a SGS II and i'm thrilled... the best phone out there now
Hi, I just sold my Optimus 3D and bought the SGSII. The only reason i did so was for the battery life. The O3D has no battery life but is an awesome phone though and the screen on it is absolutely amazing. I really miss the O3D screen. In terms of performance there is not much in it, SGSII maybe slightly ahead with fewer lock ups for me. Software wise, I absoloutley prefered the stock LG software.
I dont think this helps you much but my 2p worth anyway Either way you will have a great phone.
Optimus 3D is... boring So, go for SGS II !
you are asking a large group of individuals that have essentially put their money towards a SGS2. plus on top, if the LG was better why would your mate want to be worse off? redumbnant thread.
dav08094194 said:
Ive got my freind who wants to swap me his optimus 3d for my galaxy s2 and i was wondering what is the pros and cons? what would i gain and what would i also lose in doing so?
Thanks in advance
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What answer do you expect when you posting this question in a SGS 2 forum??
^^.
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What is performance?
Samsung galaxy s II.
Witch phone is better....I guess for now only Samsung Galaxy Note.
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I use many latest phones....I play one day with evo 3D, and u know that **** is cool a special when u high! Lol, people saying wow! But when u need to show who is the boss, who is number one! Than u take Oxynos chipset with 1gb DDR3, trust me this phone based on Cyanogen will **** so deep and strong any phone on a table...
Regards
And the 3d got froyo...lol . And will probably not get ice cream sandwich
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sgs2 of course is better overall
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Optimus 3D is... boring So, go for SGS II !
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yeah mate . having a phone that almost matches sgs2 in performance on android 2.2 and that may surpass it even on 2.3 (talking about stock versions always of course) plus having a 3d screen and camera is boring really... plus not to mention the really rich game support sgs2 has. (oh wait. with chainfire it runs fewer games than lg does without...). plus 2.3 is round the corner and ice cream was promised by lg 2 days ago... of course you cannot fry bacon on lg and not use it as a personal heater now that oil has gone up in price. srsly though i git an sgs2 first week it got out and apart from overheating its screen has vibrant colors but isplays really ooorly some colors (mainly mate ones) see angry birds sky really carefully to see what i mean. also it burnt a pixel after ten days and of course screen has no guarantee (only lg covers screen with guarantee and for tow years). thankfully it was in doa period and replaced it with 3d. dont regret it a single day
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yeah mate . having a phone that almost matches sgs2 in performance on android 2.2 and that may surpass it even on 2.3 (talking about stock versions always of course) plus having a 3d screen and camera is boring really... plus not to mention the really rich game support sgs2 has. (oh wait. with chainfire it runs fewer games than lg does without...). plus 2.3 is round the corner and ice cream was promised by lg 2 days ago... of course you cannot fry bacon on lg and not use it as a personal heater now that oil has gone up in price. srsly though i git an sgs2 first week it got out and apart from overheating its screen has vibrant colors but isplays really ooorly some colors (mainly mate ones) see angry birds sky really carefully to see what i mean. also it burnt a pixel after ten days and of course screen has no guarantee (only lg covers screen with guarantee and for tow years). thankfully it was in doa period and replaced it with 3d. dont regret it a single day
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every person to their own opinions. but the thing is buddy if you do your research the overheating issue and others that you mentioned have been overcomed and if you actually took time to go through the forums..
anyway for me the one i would get is the galaxy s2..dont get me wrong lg3d sounds nice but 3d is just a gimmick to sell the phone and nothing else.......if you want proper advice read reviews or watch youtube videos and that will help you make your mind up
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every person to their own opinions. but the thing is buddy if you do your research the overheating issue and others that you mentioned have been overcomed and if you actually took time to go through the forums..
anyway for me the one i would get is the galaxy s2..dont get me wrong lg3d sounds nice but 3d is just a gimmick to sell the phone and nothing else.......if you want proper advice read reviews or watch youtube videos and that will help you make your mind up
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ohhh i have seen reviews. tehblogs that dont know what they talking about... for example evo3d is better just because it runs on 1.2ghz instead of only 1 on lg and not knowing that it is one generation back as a processor... like saying that a 486 is better than pentium cause it is clocked to a higher freq... and btw if you can really check out o3d in a store. not the evo but o3d. the 3d is no gimmick at all you will see
If you don't absolutely want it need to have the 3d display I would definitely choose the SGS2, mainly for its sleeker design, the SAMOLED+ display and the overall better OS (like Touchwiz4 more than LGs interface, and partly because of Samsung's hardware acceleration the S2 runs much smoother than anything else. Plus it runs Gingerbread, it is supported better- in terms of official updates by Samsung and also "unofficially" by the community).
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ohhh i have seen reviews. tehblogs that dont know what they talking about... for example evo3d is better just because it runs on 1.2ghz instead of only 1 on lg and not knowing that it is one generation back as a processor... like saying that a 486 is better than pentium cause it is clocked to a higher freq... and btw if you can really check out o3d in a store. not the evo but o3d. the 3d is no gimmick at all you will see
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ok next time for me when i want to read a review i will come to you then...listen like i said everyone is entitled to their opinion file mou...i had the choice as well to go for the lg or galaxy and went with the galaxy cause one firware was on the latest one and two bigger memory..im not saying that lg optimus 3d is not good by all means its a great phone but compared to the galaxy s2 come on man...its like comparing an audi tt to a ferrari...