I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
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poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
Thanks
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No loose buttons or anything of the nature on my device , so far so good, and yeah they always find something wrong with the phone , you should been last year for the EVO 4G forums were hammer about it last year, just get the device and judge it on your own terms after 3 weeks if you think is no for you just get another device which most likely will have some problems too, I do recomend insurance tho cause you never know what could happen
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poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
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No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
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Well the tilted screen is nothing, I am a perfectionist, and Im able to get over the slightly and barely noticable tilted screen. In fact I didnt notice till people complained about it. the loose 2d 3d button is also no biggie. Yellow tinted screen? I dont think you would realize you had it unless its next to a blue tinted screen in which case you may prefer the blue over the yellow, but alone it make no difference.
Unfortunately alot of is true I replaced one for stuck green pixels and this ones screen has a slight tilt , a tiny missing spec of paint bye the menu button and light bleed at the bottom . Lots of folks here would return it for just one of these issues but I can live with it not a big Deal unless your putting it under the microscope .
I say inspect it well before you leave the store and if nothing jumps out at you don't look for it
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This same issue keeps me from buying one. I am off contract and would like to buy one off of eBay because they run for about 350 NIB there but I am afraid to get a bad one.
But also granted as some posters said the og evo also had problems during release as well. Maybe it's best to wait until they get through the first gen releases
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it is no worse than any other phone that i have been a part of.. there are always bad eggs in a batch, you just pray you dont get one.. when the hero came out forever ago, it had the dust under the screen issues, i know people that had all kinds of issues with the orig evo.. the problem in the 3d forum is you are getting a lot of very vocal people, all coming from multiple devices.. and there is a lot of ignorace floating around too.. as well as people are looking for things not to like since we dont have permenant root yet..
i personally have no issues with the phone, i know several other people who have it as well, and they have no issues.. i wouldnt worry about it, if you get one with an issue, take it back..
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No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
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+1 this.
I'm on my 2nd completely perfect E3D. I went through a bunch trying to find one with a good radio and couldn't. They all suck...but not as bad as the Samsung radios...trust me. It is likely that it is mostly cosmetic in nature anyway.
...and those other ones I had them open up and turn on? All perfect in all of the ways that are typically mentioned as fubar on this forum. The only thing I noticed was vary levels of screen-tilt. Nothing major. I'm anal about stuff like that, but, I didn't even find any of them distracting...though I did make it a point to take one without any.
That's how forums are. When I went looking for a new truck I looked around, 95% of the people there are people who just had **** luck...the other 99.5% of the people who purchased these trucks had none of those problems. But, when you get something and it performs as expected you don't tell everyone about it--but when something is screwed up you tell everybody.
Same for my current apartment. I read on all the rental sites and you would think this place was a vermin infested ghetto that had piss-smell in the hallways, ceilings caving in, holes in walls and daily knife fights in the parking lot....even though it they are actually the luxury apartments with every amenity...I have not once seen "garbage in all the halls all the time" that was mentioned, nor have I ever once "smelled them smoking drugs" in the stairwells. The dumpsters are never "over flowing with trash" and not only is the parking lot not "full constantly i have to park a mile away from my house" as stated by many people, there is in fact 4-5 times more parking than tenants....
When I ran a computer repair shop it seemed obvious that compaq couldn't make a computer that ran to save their goddamned life...cuz I only saw the broken ones.
Complainers complain because they got something that doesn't work how they thought it would/is supposed to. You can't blame them for being upset and loud...but the vast majority all got something that does exactly what it is supposed to (for the most part) so has no need to go on and on about it.
Ide do craigslist not ebay ide have to see it my friend at radio shack let me inspect 2 the first time and three the next they all had (dust ?) Under the screen . So I've got the best of five and have the issues mentioned above
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All valid concerns. I don't think the phone has bad quality control, just some really minor stuff that perfectionists (xda-ists) notice. When you go to the store, ask them to take it out of the box and tell them you want to inspect the screen BEFORE it is activated. Don't let them tell you they can't power it up without activating it. That's not true. If you see it first, you can judge for yourself.
Mike
Here's a tip launch the camera app on 3d and cover the lens to make the screen black . The first one slipped bye because the Green specs where only visible on 3d weird I know . Didn't notice till I watched the stupid green lantern movie
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Thanks for the responses.
I plan to ask the sprint store to let me inspect the phone before activating. I should be able to check for dead pixels easily along with loose buttons. To be honest I can't even notice the tilted screen from the pictures posted here and I certainly didn't notice it on the evo 3d on display at the sprint store. I hope I get a good unit.
An awesome phone
I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
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I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
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Yeah, I'm not too terribly worried about software issues. For that we have HTC which will probably address most issues with OTAs and also the great community here to offer further support.
I am on my second... First one was perfection except 3g reception was non-existent. This one has much better reception, but all the hard buttons are mushy and non responsive and the ****ing 2D/3D button rattles like a banshee. None of these were issues in first one. Looks like I am gonna chance a third try tomorrow.
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Quality control on these phones is aweful. I've been through 3 in 4 days. I would have had my 4th today but I'm sick of returning phones. First phone took green pics. 2nd one took blotchy pics and the cameras were not even close to being centered properly and my 3rd and current one is having problems with the screen becoming unresponsive.
I was the first person in my town to own a EVO 4g and that phone was awesome from day one.
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I agree with what most of you guys have said. To add to that tho, I think with anything tech related, the people with problems are only a small minority, and because they do have problems they're gonna be the loudest, and that's all you'll ever hear esp. on a site like this. It's like eating out at a restaurant. I'm betting money that 9 times out of 10 you're more likely to go out of your way to write a novel online abt a restaurant you got horrible service from, than you are to even think abt reviewing the restaurant at all if you got average service. So I would say that you see more complaint threads because the majority of us with good EVO's don't start threads abt how average our EVO's are. Although if people do have legit problems, by all means they should be allowed to let the world know. It just sucks when their problems come from them being OCD, then it really is like a bad apple spoiling the barrel or however that saying goes.
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Simply put if you get it you'd better check it out before you even leave the store. HTC's QC on this phone was absolutely terrible. How they managed to miss the tons of phones with tilted screens is beyond me.
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i agree this tread
Optimus 3d have only battery problem= no problem
It seems like everyone at XDA has something in common. We are all OCD and we will find something wrong with almost everything.
To a normal person, not one issue here would have any effect on them or would they even know what we were talking about.
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It seems that HTC has done it again... I know the possibility for defects are possible when mass producing anything, but my new EVO 3D display is crooked. Though it may be slight, once it is noticed you can't stop seeing it every time you use the phone. Went to Sprint corp store and with much hesitation from the manager, I was able to get them to exchange the phone. The only bad thing is, my new phone also has a slight lean to it (though better than the previous.) Really disappointed with HTC
Yup didnt notice it for weeks then one day i noticed it and i was like wow!
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Dang. I was just hoping it was me...
I think I got it to but its very slight scared to return and be even more messed up Idk what's wrong with the people who make the screen for the EVO
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Didnt notice it till yesterday!!! Fuuuudge
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I noticed the same thing on mine although I dint notice to I carefully looked
Maybe it was designed like that for better viewing 3d angles
Is the version 3 the same thing?
Dunno what u guys are talkin about mine is 02 hardware no crooked ness to it.
What do you mean the display is crooked? pic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139284&highlight=tilted+screen
Theres pics somewhere in that thread
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ninja984 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139284&highlight=tilted+screen
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Those pics illustrate it perfectly...I had no idea wtf everyone was talking about.
Well, I'm happy to say that I'm on my 2nd E3D and I've got yet another perfect unit. Thank god.
no tilt here
Mine is slightly crooked. I took it to best buy for the exchange and the replacement had a less crooked screen and a dead pixel. I kpt my original phone and don't even notice it Amy mote.
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daneurysm said:
Those pics illustrate it perfectly...I had no idea wtf everyone was talking about.
Well, I'm happy to say that I'm on my 2nd E3D and I've got yet another perfect unit. Thank god.
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You bought another one? What brought you back?
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Damn it...thanks to the picture I notice it now.
Not like its a huge deal...I notice it but I can't get my brother to see it.
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You bought another one? What brought you back?
tapa tapa tapa
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The fact that the NS4G (despite having an equal-or-better meter) dropped and bounced even more calls....which sucks, cuz that screen and camera are awesome...even though it feels cheap. It was fast...mega fast for a 1single core...roms a plenty...AOSP to the core...everything I wanted except a god damned signal.
It's nice to have a weighty phone in my pocket again...reminds me that I have a phone in my pocket at all times, lol.
It's good to be back. Lessons learned, etc etc etc. Plus that puts me that much closer to unlock day....and I'll probably trade this up ($350 trade in value) for an Nprime when it comes out--unless Samsung manages to bungle yet another radio.
I have version 0002 and my screen is fine. Man, I keep reading about all the problems you guys have and I think I understand what is happening. When you guys order your phones or go into a store to get one, they run a retinal scan on you to identify you as an XDA user and then get your phones from the reject bin or something.
I mean statistically speaking, there is no fricken way so many of you could have so many problems. It would mean like 1 out of 3 phones are defective or something.
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I have version 0002 and my screen is fine. Man, I keep reading about all the problems you guys have and I think I understand what is happening. When you guys order your phones or go into a store to get one, they run a retinal scan on you to identify you as an XDA user and then get your phones from the reject bin or something.
I mean statistically speaking, there is no fricken way so many of you could have so many problems. It would mean like 1 out of 3 phones are defective or something.
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LOL!
I have a version 2 hardware phone and the screen is perfect.
Between myself and my friend, we have four Evo 3D's, all 0002 hardware and all four have the crooked screen. The worst part about the crooked screen is that it throws off the touch, especially toward the bottom edge of the screen. When you touch a part of the screen, the touch point is actually off just a little because the digitizer where you touch is straight but the LCD underneath is a little off.
From what I've seen, only 20% to 30% (at most) of the 0002 units have a straight screen. The majority are crooked.
Mike
****, I got it. I never noticed it before. I wish I never started reading this thread. Probably would of never of seen it. Maybe its in my head. But it does look like its kind of tilted to the right in portrait position. Is that what yall have?
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How many times would you allow a single customer to return an Evo3d before you finally said:
"Get the F**k out of my store, and don't let the door hit you in the ass?"
Because after listening to all these people complain, and talk about being on their 6th or 7th phone, I just gotta ask:
Hom much of this crap should a retailer have to put up with?
Just Curious.
R WE NOT PHONES?!?
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How many times would you allow a single customer to return an Evo3d before you finally said:
"Get the F**k out of my store, and don't let the door hit you in the ass?"
Because after listening to all these people complain, and talk about being on their 6th or 7th phone, I just gotta ask:
Hom much of this crap should a retailer have to put up with?
Just Curious.
R WE NOT PHONES?!?
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would depend i would more then likely do it as often as i had to cause i wouldnt want to loose my job; but if i could depending on what the problem was. id get fed up and kick them out over a little light leakage and ****. i know people have OCD but get over it get some meds lol smoke a bowl something.
I just find it hard to believe your phone could be a defect after so many times. That is frickin ridiculous. I call BS on alot of them. I would lose my job real quick I can tell you that.
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I just find it hard to believe your phone could be a defect after so many times. That is frickin ridiculous. I call BS on alot of them. I would lose my job real quick I can tell you that.
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I not to ocd I have light leak paint missing from the captive buttons and a titled screen , I returned one and examined six in total and this was the best one so as picky as these guys are I'm not surprised
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I just find it hard to believe your phone could be a defect after so many times. That is frickin ridiculous. I call BS on alot of them. I would lose my job real quick I can tell you that.
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+10. I would HATE to deal with EVO3D customers, because, for every one I was assigned to help, there would be a much higher probability that I would be losing my job that day.
"What's that you say? A dust speck?... Oh, no, wait...A dead PIXEL you say? And you've come back to return it HOW many times?"...
<<quick look around for heaviest, heavable gadget, and nearest escape route, after calculating amount of emergency $ saved. > >
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I not to ocd and I'm living with light leak paint missing from the captive buttons and a titled screen , I returned one and examined six in total and this was the best one so as picky as these guys are I'm not surprised
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How do you cope?
What would you consider the toughest part of your day?
When you were a child, did you ever imagine that this kind of thing could happen to you?
R WE NOT PHONES?!?
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How do you cope?
What would you consider the toughest part of your day?
When you were a child, did you ever imagine that this kind of thing could happen to you?
R WE NOT PHONES?!?
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Fuk off lol
Maybe I shouldn't if said living with
I have those issue and really don't care along with a warmer color screen than my friends our the one at my local sprint store . Like I said I'm not surprised
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The true complaint I would be cool with is stuff under the screen and a dead pixel light leak peg get over it and tilted screen also get over it unless it effects the phone or something lol
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I'd be okay with one phone return, maybe two (if both were legitimate reasons), but if you come in a 3rd time for the same phone then I'd probably hand you to another employee. If it's giving you that many problems, then you probably shouldn't be using an Android phone to begin with.
I worked at Best Buy and I never cared tbqh. My manager also never cared. Said it was the manufacturer's fault for having issues in the first place and it's better to just do the exchange so the customer will be happy.
I remember one guy got his EVO 4G replaced 6 times. I did the exchange for him each time, I didn't care as long as they were in their 30 days.
I think I would have to ask the person "Dude, you are on your >3rd phone. If you have so many problems, why do you keep buying it?"
I mean honestly, if you are so unlucky as to get 6-7 "defective" phones in a row, perhaps it is a sign from God you are not meant to have this phone. Get your money back and move the hell on. But before you move on, come on to XDA to ***** about it...then move on.
Honestly, I would never have more than 2 bad phones. First one...yeah, I can see it and I would exchange it. Second phone is bad...screw it, I would get my money back and wait for something else I like.
I've only returned my phone once. Only because it came shipped with a crack in the screen. Not cool. Stupid former employer. >_> (that would be UPS)
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I've been getting a new htc phone from sprint every year for as long as I can remember, 8 years?
Not one return or repair.
For my wife too.
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I've been getting a new htc phone from sprint every year for as long as I can remember, 8 years?
Not one return or repair.
For my wife too.
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guess you didnt have a touch pro then huh? dear god those things were probably a financial disaster for all involved. loved it though!
Yeah I would have lost my job after the second return.. LOL
Dead Pixel - Exchanges Unlimited as this is a true defect
Major Light Leakage - Same as above
Other Major Issues - Crooked LCD, No Power, etc. - Same as above
Now on to the bull**** issues -
Very Minor Light Leakage - No exchange... Return if you wish or contact HTC
Dust - Unless the screen is totally blocked off.. Same as above
Screen not as big as 4g evo - Same as above
Battery die to fast - Its a dual core phone .. duhhh
My mom said its too expensive - Get the **** out the store
4G does not work everywhere - So use 3g
3D picture does not come out of the phone - Man **** this **** I quit after I slap u.
Yeah fire me already because it would not be pretty.
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guess you didnt have a touch pro then huh? dear god those things were probably a financial disaster for all involved. loved it though!
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+1. I had a touch pro. So many problems.
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So, you are all complaining about having something to do at work.....
It's called job security my friends.
The phone does appear to have some quality control issues such as dead pixels, screen crooked enough that it interferes with the blackout, and maybe a loose button here and there, BUT...
Unfortunately I've seen people returning the phone for what I believe are software issues that will be fixed with (hopefully the next) OTA. Things like the camera freezing, green tint in some camera shots, wifi signal dropping, and the phone going crazy when you plug something into the headphone jack are all software related and exchanging the phone will just land you another one with the same problems. In fact, some problems are intermittent so you may think the new one is fine and then somehow "broke" later. Even a weak radio signal and yellow screen could be software.
You can't expect the average consumer to know whether or not a problem is hardware or software though. To them, they were sold a product that simply doesn't work properly. So they take it back. They want it, but they want it to work, so they exchange it. That's not really a consumer issue: it's an issue for HTC. I'm not making light of software issues either, because those are interpreted as defects just like hardware problems. This is really an issue with HTC. IMHO, they released a product that was clearly not quite ready for prime time.
Mike
im a former radioshack employee and i gotta admit... these pplz come with the weirdest problems ever and the craziest stories to get them phones exchanged, mysefl im on my 3rd evo3d, my first one lost 4g completely, second one lost screen sensitivity and it was pressing letters by itself so im in my third one so far is good, so if they are within the 30 days i will exchange it as long as they have a real problem with it, one day i had a guy coming with the phone wanting an exchanged the phone was all scratched up and when we told him we cant cause of the scratches he said it wasnt his fault, that it was raining and the water scratched his phone lmaoooo ... see what i say lolz
I want whatever I spend my hard earned money on to work as expected to. Why should people settle for mediocre build design or software ? I don't care if I have to exchange an item 10 times, if I am paying for it and I'm within a return grace period, you bet I'm going to make sure I'm satisfied with my item.
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I'm glad to see how much progress has been made on the after market software front. Really.
But I want to get a 3vo I'm content with before I void my warranty.
I went to the store today to do my second exchange. The first one went through smoothly but the employees in the store today were being hardasses.
This replacement 3vo has somewhat severe light leakage occurring in the bottom bezel. The capacitive menu button is discolored. And the screen is even more crooked than my last 3vo.
I still took it in stride until I realized the tilt of the screen was causing issues with the digitizer.
I consider all these issues to be manufacturer's defects. The manager I spoke with today says he recognizes them as design features of the phone.
I drove 90minutes there and back to the nearest Sprint repair center only to be told off by an asshole.
I'll have to try somewhere else on Monday.
Just getting this off my chest, please excuse my ranting.
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I'm glad to see how much progress has been made on the after market software front. Really.
But I want to get a 3vo I'm content with before I void my warranty.
I went to the store today to do my second exchange. The first one went through smoothly but the employees in the store today were being hardasses.
This replacement 3vo has somewhat severe light leakage occurring in the bottom bezel. The capacitive menu button is discolored. And the screen is even more crooked than my last 3vo.
I still took it in stride until I realized the tilt of the screen was causing issues with the digitizer.
I consider all these issues to be manufacturer's defects. The manager I spoke with today says he recognizes them as design features of the phone.
I drove 90minutes there and back to the nearest Sprint repair center only to be told off by an asshole.
I'll have to try somewhere else on Monday.
Just getting this off my chest, please excuse my ranting.
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I just have to ask. Okay, so you go to the store to exchange the phone. They exchange it, regardless of being hard-asses or not. Why did you even leave the store without checking it from top to bottom, inside and out? I know they powered it up because they have to do that to activate it on your line. And even IF the battery in the new one was dead, why didn't you say "hey, can I use the old battery long enough to test this thing out since I've had problems?"
Sorry for my rant, but it is getting so tiring to come here to read about development and support and it is just thread after thread of people pissing and moaning about problems with the hardware. People pissing and moaning about exchanging their phone 3, 5, and even 7 or more times. I mean really? WTF is wrong with people that you actually would continue to try and get a phone after supposedly getting 7 defective ones in a row?
Then, to make matters worse, you get people on here *****ing about the people constantly *****ing about the problems they have...these are the worst.
This site is called "XDA Developers" - not "XDA Complainers"
Well. I did have them turn it on.
I had the last one exchanged for a dead pixel, that's the deal breaker for me.
I don't expect a perfect phone, just one I'm happy enough with.
I'm pretty free going. I didn't expect the digitizer issues with this one, that's a deal breaker.
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^^^^^agree. If you were nieve enough to leave the store without checking the phone for problems, then that's your fault.
On the other hand, they are manufacturers defects. Try calling CSL and telling them about it. When I had a problem with my 3D, after having problems with my local Sprint store, they emailed my a work order for me to take my phone into the Sprint store. I printed it out, took it, and my phone into the store, and they fixed it.
But I cannot believe you left the store without checking the phone...
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Well. I did have them turn it on.
I had the last one exchanged for a dead pixel, that's the deal breaker for me.
I don't expect a perfect phone, just one I'm happy enough with.
I'm pretty free going. I didn't expect the digitizer issues with this one, that's a deal breaker.
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But again, why didn't YOU test it? You've been on these forums. You've seen all the tears being shed pretty much daily. Why would you ever leave the store without testing it. IF I had a problem with my phone, I would have said very simply to the Sprint person, "I'm not leaving the store until we find one phone without any defects."
But...then again...I've never had a defective phone yet...so I've never had to test this theory out in real life.
After i had mine replaced due to front facing camera failure i tested it to no end before i left. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. This is your second evo? Shame on you.
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i have one dead pixel, maybe 2, right next to each other on the top most part of the screen.. and i dont care enough to return it, everything else is fine on it.
i understand if you are a perfectionist, but as some of the other posters said, we kinda dont care too much any more. too many people complaining. you should be posting this on the sprint customer support forums so those store employees get fired!!!!
Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
Absolute_Zero said:
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
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I might be wrong, but I thought there was already a 5" samsung on ATT. If so I would agree you better try holding up to your ear and putting in your pocket before you sink money into buying it. Trying it there right now would be a good sign whether you should forget about buying it whenever it comes to verizon.
I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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Ha im 6ft5.5
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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lol I call bull****
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I didn't "choose" to come to a Thunderbolt. I wanted a Samsung Charge, but couldn't find one to trade my iPhone for, so I SETTLED for the Thunderbolt. Believe me, I wouldn't be on this thing if I didn't have to be.
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Lol. U guys are a trip. I'm 6"2 but I do feel like my thunderbolt is kinda adequately sized. But I'm a photographer, I like to view my images on something other than my camera when I'm nowhere near my imac. I don't own a laptop. And the tablet market has not caught up with the multimedia market yet. But I'm aware some phones and tablets have usb hosting mode. So a phone/tablet would be ideal. 5.3" screen would be an adequate in-between size for tablet and phone use imo. But the idea of usb host is what would sell me on something like that. It may not even be a possibility for that matter so... Well just have to wait n see.
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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Originally Posted by ibsk8
Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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He would make an awesome sumo wrestler at that height/weight.
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More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
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I have to use an AT&T phone for work so I chose the Atrix...it's pretty decent since it got updated to 2.3.4 but the UI is absolute garbage. It's snappy like I want it to be, but you are exactly right about the colors on the screen being incredibly muted. At the end of the day though I am quite happy to switch to my bolt.
I have been a bit curious about the Bionic that seems like it may actually be coming out soon-ish. If they did something about the terrible color quality it could potentially be worth looking into. My wife just got a Droid 3 because she refuses to have a phone without a physical keyboard...it's not terrible. Haven't played with it too much, but from what I have played with I wasn't too disappointed with.
I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Sorry man... I'm just gonna have to disagree with you on the whole Motorola build quality thing. I've gone though so many of those phone it's not even funny. The electronics and radios they use are garbage. My dad had a thing for Motorola for some ungodly reason and had these things laying around all over the place. Every time I activated one to give to someone it either buzzed so loud you couldn't hear anything, the mic would just randomly die, the controls didn't work/respond, the displays looked like crap, and without a single exception, NONE of them had a radio in them worth a damn. I couldn't even call into customer service to complain because the POS wouldn't work on the switchboard! Totally and completely worthless devices that couldn't so much as hold a signal to receive a text while I'd be on my Samsung chatting away. They sold those POS Razr's like crack to addicts, but they were garbage! Now my buddy has a DX that flips on and off, hangs up in calls, just stops responding, and goes and does stuff all by itself. Surprised? I wasn't. Pretty par for the course given what I've seen Motorola crank out for the last 6 years. I told the last guy who tried selling me on a Motorola that he'd have an easier time selling condoms in a convent. It's not often I hate on a product or company this much, but honestly, if they were giving Bionics away for free I STILL wouldn't activate one on one of my lines.
My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
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Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
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The hardware revision in the settings is the same. I'll check the box tomorrow.
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
I believe I am lucky. Even though there are the multitasking issued, which everyone has, my EVO has never done the loading sense home screen thing... And I run some memory hoggin apps. Grindr, last.fm, maps, xda, browser, mail. Never had the reload show up yet.
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I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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What apps, do tell
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im having the light leak issue also.
also the sticker i had was black, like some generic sticker placed over the small clear one that was probably broken already.
i may have been sold one that someone returned. mf's
question: do i have to go to the same store i bought it at to exchange it?
I understand your pain dealing with people that are less knowledgeable than you (a Sprint rep tried to tell me that the SD card on my phone could be what was causing the reception issues if the card was 32gigs, no joke). However, try to understand that most of the time these people are just following instructions set forth by their employers. When things usually start to escalate like that, stay polite and ask for a manager. Believe me, it works better.
Anyway, I'm glad you got a non-defective phone and can start to enjoy it
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
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I exchanged my first EVO LTO for frequent reboots at a Sprint Corporate store, 2nd one perfect!
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
My first was light leakage and second was ripple and all I can find around here all have the ripple, hope this goes away in the upcoming batches...
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On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
I had to return my first one as well. I was not getting calls txt or voice mails. Data worked find but nothing else.
exchanged it at best buy, and all my messages came through right away.
I suspect that it was not a phone issue but an activation issue.
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
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You mean like the Galaxy S3, the phone that will have zero problems on launch day? Good luck. My first Evo had a bad pixel, and I am waiting on the replacement. I was going to get the SG3 instead, but after reading the UK SG3 threads, there are a lot of issues. I decided that the Evo is best for me. Whether it is superior or not is subjective.
Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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I'm guessing you didn't have their Touch Pro? I went Samsung after that. That being said I will never buy another Samsung phone, they don't support their phones for ****. I'm with you though I'll take the minor data drops and wait out HTC patches and the much stronger dev support system..
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It is amazing to have the chance to compare two different phones. I ended up unfortunately having that experience after I dropped my brand new EVO LTE in the toilet. My first phone I noticed that it didn't auto dock on my car dock even with the option turned on.
Haven't tried the camera on the new phone but old phone seemed like it didn't take sharp pictures like I was expecting but ones that were more out of focus than really blurry.
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
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Which roms have this built in? I returned my EVO recently and my new phone has the same wifi problems. I would like to try a rom before returning the phone again.
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