I was wondering if rooting or installing custom firmware lowers the resale value of the phone. Personally I will not buy a non factory default used phone.
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I was wondering if rooting or installing custom firmware lowers the resale value of the phone. Personally I will not buy a non factory default used phone.
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Which is why most people who have rooted and then installed custom software will factory reset and then install stock software when they sell their phone.
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Not that I am thinking of selling, but I would always restore the original firmware before selling.
I would not buy a phone with no warranty due to custom rom or rooting .
jje
I guess it really depends on the individual...
Who wouldn't want a phone if its all ready and booted, plus if its on the latest Android version.
I would say when you are selling give option to buyer that If they so wish you could root it for them and put the latest Android version ( if the official is not on latest), and make sure they email you the request just to cover your back.
I sure most will be pleased
It depends how you look at it or who you're selling to. If the process isn't simple or might confuse a non-techie then it may be seen as a plus, when it comes to Android though (In particular the S2) then it's probably best to return it to stock. The easy solution is to offer both stock and a custom rom when selling and make it clear that the warranty is fully intact with either (Assuming you use a usb jig and do things by the book).
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I guess it really depends on the individual...
Who wouldn't want a phone if its all ready and booted, plus if its on the latest Android version.
I would say when you are selling give option to buyer that If they so wish you could root it for them and put the latest Android version ( if the official is not on latest), and make sure they email you the request just to cover your back.
I sure most will be pleased
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If you think of it as if you were buying a car: would you choose the car that had been modified and overclocked(thus straing the motor) by the boyracer which went really quick,had flashy lights but was prone to quirks?
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Would you buy the one that was unmodified, wasnt as flashy but got you from a to b with no drama and was still eligible for repair under warranty.
I recently sold my HTC HD2, in the ads i had i stated in no uncertain terms that it was running on Android Gingerbread but if the buyer wished i could flash it back to default WINMO or even Windows 7 if they like but i did recommend that they leave it as it is as the HD2 runs Android perfectbly and HTC should really have initially installed Android on it, every enquiry i had said they would prefer Android on it and the person who finally purchased it said he wanted me to leave Android on it so there you go everyones different, if your buying a new or nearly new phone it might be different but if your buying an older phone it's different.
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If you think of it as if you were buying a car: would you choose the car that had been modified and overclocked(thus straing the motor) by the boyracer which went really quick,had flashy lights but was prone to quirks?
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Would you buy the one that was unmodified, wasnt as flashy but got you from a to b with no drama and was still eligible for repair under warranty.
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I guess we are talking about second hand here so yeah I would prefer the modification ( which I might have to pay for If I did on my own), and its not necessary that something that's modified might be bad, it could be for the better as well , the reason why most people modify things be it car or mobile or anything else.
And I did mention about giving the buyer an option.
On the other hand if I was a Brand NEw product obviously everyone wants it unmodified or tampered with
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If you think of it as if you were buying a car: would you choose the car that had been modified and overclocked(thus straing the motor) by the boyracer which went really quick,had flashy lights but was prone to quirks?
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Would you buy the one that was unmodified, wasnt as flashy but got you from a to b with no drama and was still eligible for repair under warranty.
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In fairness mate there's a massive difference between selling a car and a phone i get what you are saying but you cannot really compare the two.
I have found on ebay that some rooted phones running custom roms can fetch up to $100 more.Guess paying for the convenience/not confident I'm themselves
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In fairness mate there's a massive difference between selling a car and a phone i get what you are saying but you cannot really compare the two.
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It was just a rough analogy, i wasnt actually comparing them, seeing as they are different items, just the buyer experience.
When i first tried selling my htc hero(last year), it was running a 2.2 froyo custom rom, and i ended up having to relist it, adter having restore it back to stock 2.1 .
Me personally, i would prefer to buy a phone that was running stock, purely because that way you know what you are getting, without having to guess what the previous owner has bodged.
Just to point out, I have no problem with running custom roms. I run villain on my sgs2, and overcome on my tab 7".
I depends on buyers preferences. I would prefer a good custom rom to stock for example ...
You might get more from an unexperienced user which does not want to do custom roms / root by himself, but I think in usual cases you get same as a "stock" device or even less, as we still do not know whether there is an additional custom firmware counter which cannot be reset by the jig. And as there are people who even do not know what "root" ist, they might feel unsure when buying the pre-rooted device.
I've rooted mine and it would not have changed anything if my devices had come pre-rooted. I would have reflashed firmware and do the root by myself anyway.
Has anyone had there warranty declined due to the flash counter?
And if its past its warranty period anyway, it wouldn't matter to much to me.
I wouldn't buy a phone that had been over-clocked for a long time, but there's far more uses of root than just OC'ing.
And if its past its warranty period anyway, it wouldn't matter to much to me.
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I would pay more for a rooted phone but I wouldn't buy a custom ROM phone at all.
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If you think of it as if you were buying a car: would you choose the car that had been modified and overclocked(thus straing the motor) by the boyracer which went really quick,had flashy lights but was prone to quirks?
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Would you buy the one that was unmodified, wasnt as flashy but got you from a to b with no drama and was still eligible for repair under warranty.
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False dilemna? Other options exist surely...
Option C: Modified from stock, twaeked to run faster yet using less fuel. Runs smoothly, no drama.
Option D:.......
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I've just become aware of the new replacement program for problem Fascinates. I've been reading the forums but it wasn't completely clear EXACTLY what i need to do in order to be offered a replacement. I bought my Fascinate on eBay like 3 months ago (pre-rooted with a Blackhole ROM i believe) and while i do like it, it does have it's share of issues. i get the phantom button press a lot, GPS is VERY slow to lock at times, i occasionally get random voicemails from calls i didn't know i missed, my screen timeout setting is constantly changing back to 15 secs when i set it to 2 minutes, and MMS rarely works.
so yea, from what i've read so far, it seems like i'm prime for a replacement. but i need to know first off, do i need to flash a stock rom or will it not matter? will i need to take it in and prove it's not working because it only has these issues sometimes and i may not be able to replicate on the spot? also what exactly do i need to say (and who do i call) in order to prompt them to offer me a new device? thanks in advance for the help and i apologize if this is explained somewhere already. i've looked and it just seems to mostly be people talking about their new phones and not how they actually got them.
1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
Just act stupid and say your phone doesnt work right and yes u should change everythin to stock couz root voids your warranty. But sometimes they still replace even if i did it. But change back to be safe
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You may have a problem because you didn't get the phone directly from vzw & they can find that out. Also, they're getting hammered right now with people trying everything to get this deal whether they need it or not. Seems like they're becoming a little more stringent with their criteria. But I think the real problem for you is where you got the phone.
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seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
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Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
I wish I could tell you good news, but I've been down this road before. My hub bought a phone off ebay and found out something was wrong with it that same day it came in the mail. He went to Verizon and asked them if they could do anything and they said since he bought it from ebay they can't do anything. They are going to look into your account and know that you didn't get it from them, so I don't think you have any hopes at all getting it replaced.
You could however flash it back to stock and try...if you don't succeed...keep it stock and put it back on ebay. The fassy's are still selling for quite a bit and use that to purchase new phone.
well thanks for all the help. some people seem really offended but the only reason i even asked is because people on other forums said they traded in their eBay Fascinates and got the deal. i don't know if the warranty is transferable or not, but it's still been out less than a year and should be covered. also, there is no way they can tell i bought it on eBay either. the most they should be able to see is when i activated it and maybe track the ESN back to the original owner, still doesn't say i bought it on eBay. i didn't buy it directly from Verizon but the guy i bought it from did. people were even having success with phones bought from Best Buy.
You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
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Do you think it only has to be from an authorized retailer? I bought mine from Best Buy and they never even asked me where I got my phone. So maybe they can somehow tell if it was either bought from them OR an authorized dealer OR maybe the reps that I worked with didn't care.
They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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For sure the swap ended yesterday due to the new ED05 update. Right now, they're only offering replacement Fassys. I was however, able to talk them to giving me an early upgrade for the trouble since I REALLY hate this phone. Better than nothing, and they were real cool.
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You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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i understand perfectly. and don't you think your being a little extreme? it's not like my phone doesn't have issues. it WAS bought from Verizon and it has a warranty. so I didn't personally buy it from Verizon but what the hell difference does it make? if it's messing up and under warranty, they should fix it or give me a replacement. did you even read my original post? i said what was wrong with the phone so it's not like i'm making stuff up, i just wanted to know what they were listening for in order to qualify for the upgrade replacement since i have more than one issue. don't make me out to be the bad guy, read on other forums where people are just saying they have issues to get the upgrade when their phones work fine. i even saw one story where a store manager encouraged someone to say they were missing calls to get a Charge for free when the guy said he was saving money to replace his Fascinate. so it really falls on the reps to do their jobs anyway since they are supposed to actually check for issues, so isn't it their fault if they don't? i ended up not even calling anyway, so get off your high horse guy.
and no, i don't think they can tell where i bought it. they can most likely tell where it was originally purchased and see when and where it was activated and deactivated but how can they possibly know more than that? stop spreading propaganda.
call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
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You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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I love the holier than thou forum white knights. I swear you relative moralists leave no forum untouched with your auto-ego stroking.
Listen, everyone who owns a Fascinate and went through the OTA update process had the same issue with missed calls and texts. Furthermore, even custom ROMs (CM7 included) experienced this issue. Until now, there was no work around and not everyone is an XDA daily driver and knows that ED05 has been released. We all went through the exact same run around waiting for Froyo, I know I for one wasn't about to sit back and wait for this release to be pushed back 4-5 times. I took the free upgrade and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. I even posted the script that worked for me on the first try, because at the time ED05 had no firm release date and I feel like everyone pumping out $200 for a phone and $100+ a month deserves a product that won't cause them huge issues like the Fascinate caused for me. I lost thousands in sales because I missed calls and the Google Voice missed notification wouldn't show up for 15-20 minutes.
Bottom line is, don't try to crucify everyone that asks for help with this situation. Odds are they don't know about ED05 being released and they probably don't trust Samsung to get an update out on time because they never have. The only reason this one came so fast is because Verizon/Samsung were losing their asses on replacement costs.
TLDR: Don't be a ****.
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i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
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+1 and I also would enjoy the better camera and front facing as well.
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Tell them you lost it somewhere where there is a high volume of people coming and going i.e the mall, hospital etc. if you have insurance on your phone you should be able to get a new one
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If you think you can call Verizon and say your phone is defective and expect them to send you something different then it wont happen.
1. You bought the phone off eBay, thus you no longer have a one year manufacture warranty.
2. Without the manufacture warranty they cant send you a replacement phone.
3. Your best option is to see if you have an upgrade or go through your insurance and see what kind of phone they will send you. You never know sometimes they send you UPGRADED phones!
To the people WHO ACTUALLY GOT THERE PHONE THROUGH VERIZON. If you are within a year and your phone is "defective" then you can call them and make it clear that you have done a full factory reset and everything you try doesn't work. They will then send you a replacement, it might be the same phone or you might get lucky and get an upgraded phone.
I work for Verizon and I've had customers come in with a Droid and manufacture sent them a Droid Three.
Kinda new to rooting and stuff but does anyone know how Best Buy handles returns/exchanges for androids?
I rooted my phone and unrooted it, took out superuser and did a factory reset. My main concern is whether or not they would put my phone in download mode to check the download counter.
most places will not put it in DL mode to check that.
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Kinda new to rooting and stuff but does anyone know how Best Buy handles returns/exchanges for androids?
I rooted my phone and unrooted it, took out superuser and did a factory reset. My main concern is whether or not they would put my phone in download mode to check the download counter.
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Did you buy it from best buy?
Also, are you returning it or exchanging it for a new one. If you are exchanging it, you can buy a jig to reset the flash counter for $7. OR, simply lie your teeth out. I've exchanged cracked Xbox games with no insurance, got a new iPod 3rd Gen after saying my 2nd Gen broke, and I even got them to fix my laptop for free. They're gullible, just say you tried to fix it yourself.
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Did you buy it from best buy?
Also, are you returning it or exchanging it for a new one. If you are exchanging it, you can buy a jig to reset the flash counter for $7. OR, simply lie your teeth out. I've exchanged cracked Xbox games with no insurance, got a new iPod 3rd Gen after saying my 2nd Gen broke, and I even got them to fix my laptop for free. They're gullible, just say you tried to fix it yourself.
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Bought the phone from best buy. I'm planning to exchange it for another phone. Read about the jigs. Do you think they'll put it in download mode?
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Bought the phone from best buy. I'm planning to exchange it for another phone. Read about the jigs. Do you think they'll put it in download mode?
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They might, better to be safe than sorry with the jig. If you don't wanna wait for the jig to ship to your house and they check your flash counter, tell them you went to a cell phone technicien and they told you to flash something.
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When I took back my first GS2 to Best Buy, the girl didn't even turn the phone on...
And I had SuperUser in the menu still as this was before Entropy had the flash back to stock without root available.
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Kinda new to rooting and stuff but does anyone know how Best Buy handles returns/exchanges for androids?
I rooted my phone and unrooted it, took out superuser and did a factory reset. My main concern is whether or not they would put my phone in download mode to check the download counter.
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I exchanged a rooted and romed captivate at best toward the purchase of a galaxy s2 (got 99 bucks). They didn't seem to care, though the employee did notice it looked a little different and thought it was cool!
Your situation is a little different. You could flash back to stock just in case. I doubt they would give you the runaround. They probably just send it off somewhere, anyway, and check that it is not physically damaged. They did want to make sure I had wiped it of personal data, which I had through wipe data/factor reset in recovery.
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They might, better to be safe than sorry with the jig.
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I'm in agreement with him. I would do it to. Even though I'm 98% sure they won't check (at least in my local Best Buy).
I work at best buy and no we don't check the phone for root or instability. As long as you can show its on we will take it Graphics cards too. We never check if its actually broken so i say mine is broken every 8 months (shifty eyes)
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Of course the pros at bestbuy wont check or have no clue. But there's a chance when the phones sent back to samsung they will be able to tell. Then they will go by the IMEI and back thru the carrier to void your warranty and charge you the full amount of the phone on your next bill. It's not like it hasn't happened to some.
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Of course the pros at bestbuy wont check or have no clue. But there's a chance when the phones sent back to samsung they will be able to tell. Then they will go by the IMEI and back thru the carrier to void your warranty and charge you the full amount of the phone on your next bill. It's not like it hasn't happened to some.
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You're saying they'll void your warranty on a new phone based on what you did to the last one you no longer own?
Doubtful...
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Of course the pros at bestbuy wont check or have no clue. But there's a chance when the phones sent back to samsung they will be able to tell. Then they will go by the IMEI and back thru the carrier to void your warranty and charge you the full amount of the phone on your next bill. It's not like it hasn't happened to some.
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Lmao. Where do you people come up with this stuff? Making stuff up to misinform someone isn't very nice.
I just returned my atrix at best buy for the buy back program and its bootloader is unlocked. I got the thrill 4g but after a week of cool 3d I realized they are never gonna get past froyo and I kind of had a headache...so I returned it..I put the stock recovery back on it but not the firmware...basically, if u have the buy back program, geek squad looks at it...I couldn't are what he was doing when he said he was giving it a functionality test but I'm 90 percent sure he was just turning it on....and I was fine...now when you make a return, it just goes to customer service...the lady asked me to turn my thrill on for her because she didn't know how...she saw that it booted and I wrapped all the cords up really nice and she didn't even charge a restocking fee or anything ...so just make sure it turns on and you should be fine...I am now a proud owner of a SG II...at least until the end of the month if nothing better comes out..good luck
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I actually work for best buy's Geek Squad and I can verify that no one anywhere with the exception of a nerd who is trying to prove his girth will bother to check if it is rooted, and even if it is they will still most likely (85%+) exchange the device for you.
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I just returned my atrix at best buy for the buy back program and its bootloader is unlocked. I got the thrill 4g but after a week of cool 3d I realized they are never gonna get past froyo and I kind of had a headache...so I returned it..I put the stock recovery back on it but not the firmware...basically, if u have the buy back program, geek squad looks at it...I couldn't are what he was doing when he said he was giving it a functionality test but I'm 90 percent sure he was just turning it on....and I was fine...now when you make a return, it just goes to customer service...the lady asked me to turn my thrill on for her because she didn't know how...she saw that it booted and I wrapped all the cords up really nice and she didn't even charge a restocking fee or anything ...so just make sure it turns on and you should be fine...I am now a proud owner of a SG II...at least until the end of the month if nothing better comes out..good luck
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we abandoned the restocking fee about 6 months ago...
dunno why there's so much bad blood around best buy.... I have a right to hate it after working there for the last 3 years.... but I really don't get the negativity.
Sure the computer department is stupid and some management at certain locations suck. But all in all its a decent electronic retail shop with some good people working there and for the most part we do try our best to please our clients.
Yea, I don't see how best buy is any worse than any other retail electronics store, and I have gotten several price matches there. I've also had good luck with returns. Oh well, every body has their own experiences, situations and opinions.
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Yea, I don't see how best buy is any worse than any other retail electronics store, and I have gotten several price matches there. I've also had good luck with returns. Oh well, every body has their own experiences, situations and opinions.
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true. To each there own I guess...
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I actually work for best buy's Geek Squad and I can verify that no one anywhere with the exception of a nerd who is trying to prove his girth will bother to check if it is rooted, and even if it is they will still most likely (85%+) exchange the device for you.
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we abandoned the restocking fee about 6 months ago...
dunno why there's so much bad blood around best buy.... I have a right to hate it after working there for the last 3 years.... but I really don't get the negativity.
Sure the computer department is stupid and some management at certain locations suck. But all in all its a decent electronic retail shop with some good people working there and for the most part we do try our best to please our clients.
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What store you from? 000945 here.
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So my friend gave me his Samsung Galaxy 5.0 (I think it's USA?) today, and I was wondering what I should do to it. I own a Nook Color and have CM7 running from an SD card, but I'm pretty sure it's different for the Player. I think I would rather not root it and would prefer a custom ROM, but I'm not sure how/which one to pick. I found JoyOS, CM7, and CM9, but I don't know which one I should get.
Unfortunately, my friend dropped it a few days ago, cracking the screen. The screen and touch screen still work, but it's cracked and annoying to work with. He never got the warranty, but is it possible to get the glass replaced?
Alright, I've managed to get CWR installed using this guide, and from there I installed JoyOS and it's working pretty well so far.
ignore this
You have a list here so you decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
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Your gonna find that a lot of the tips and insight for this particular device are hit or miss. One key thing to remember is that this device is not a phone so the temptation to leap into things may be a bit higher than with your phone (taking the root/rom route on your phone carries a higher risk, so more people that would not normally go this route are). That being said, there are some serious threads and some "not so serious" threads, good advice, and not so good advice. So use your best judgement and ask if your really not sure on something.
Now that's out of the way, your gonna find that the Gingerbread based roms on this device are all relatively stable with minimal bugs - try all of them is my recommendation! The ICS ones, some that are still in development all have some issues one way or another. This is gonna be up to you and your uses for the device to decide whether or not the bugs are ok for you. The Cyanogen based roms are pretty spectacular if their limitations work well for you.
Do research, read, read, read and you'll begin to get a general feel for what people are liking and not liking. I am a pusher of trial and error, but only if your comfortable with continually modifying your device. Flash on my friend and have fun!
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Thanks for the advice! I think I like messing with this than my Nook, there's a lot more stuff to do instead of "put this image on your SD card and you're done." I finally got the market to upgrade to Play in JoyOS and replaced the boot animation, and I'm enjoying this one so far. I think I'll give LewaOS a try tomorrow.
So, does anyone know if it's possible to get a screen replacement for this? Or is it better just to get a screen protector and hope this doesn't get any worse.
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Alright, I've managed to get CWR installed using this guide, and from there I installed JoyOS and it's working pretty well so far.
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I've also followed that cwm install to a 'T'. but still no cwm. as a matter of fact it didn't even install the kernel even tho it said "passed" in odin. i hope someone'll b able to answer this soon.
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So, does anyone know if it's possible to get a screen replacement for this? Or is it better just to get a screen protector and hope this doesn't get any worse.
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Yes, you'll have to send it to the nearest Samsung Service Center.
They will replace it for you, but without a warranty you will definitely be paying out of pocket.
I can only speculate that it would cost you somewhere in the range of $75~$100.
Please, do not quote me on that figure! I am only guessing, but I can't imaging that it's a cheap fix.
Considering the obsolescence of the Galaxy Player, I'm not sure paying for a screen repair would be worth it.
Call Samsung's Service Center and get a quote.
But, if the cost of repair is more than the half of the device's value,
I would save the money and get a more technologically current device that is WIFI-only.
Stock-based ROM
I would recommend you flash a stock based ROM unless you know a lot about Android, because non stock-based ROMs have a lot of bugs.
A few weeks ago I bought the Oneplus 2 64Gb on the rather controversial website gearbest (chinese). I had a discount coupon, and got the phone for a pretty good price, slightly north of 300 bucks. The phone was delivered within 4 days (from UK to Italy) despite the website being pretty lame with payment methods. What surprised me is that the phone was obviously shipped with some adware/malware on it. I did not login my google account, and went for a full format/wipe and reinstall within 2 minutes from switching it on. In general I am pretty happy with the phone now (also given that in Italy nexus 6p still has to ship, and it's priced 700+Euros), but I am shocked to see 1+ delivered with malware.
I mean, they even pretend to have an invite system etc, but how can it then sell (without invite) trough such an bad retailer that installs malware? Had I been a completely beginner user who does not know about fastboot commands, probably I would still be stuck with the s**t they provided.
Anybody else having similar experiences? Anybody knows if it's possible that they also compromised low-level firmware to add some track-ware?
If Hydrogen OS was installed it's pretty normal that there is plenty of Chinese bloatware.
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boober78 said:
If Hydrogen OS was installed it's pretty normal that there is plenty of Chinese bloatware.
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It was on Oxygen, with some added apps that just popped up ads and tracked the user. I mean, ads pop up full screen with some frequency on your phone, and you need to click to send them away. Maybe I was spoiled by nexus devices then, but it looked like ridiculous to me.
I'm also ordered my 1+2 4 weeks ago, camed with bloatware and OxygenOS 2.0.2. Terrible service, will not ever again buy from here any device.
younoob said:
A few weeks ago I bought the Oneplus 2 64Gb on the rather controversial website gearbest (chinese).
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This pretty much is the reason. If I've understood it right, u shouldn't buy OP anywhere else than from Oneplus. Kind of same as u would buy Iphone from some shady Chinese site and then blame Apple for malware/bloatware.
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This pretty much is the reason. If I've understood it right, u shouldn't buy OP anywhere else than from Oneplus. Kind of same as u would buy Iphone from some shady Chinese site and then blame Apple for malware/bloatware.
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I am not blaming OnePlus, not strongly at least. Indeed I am very happy with the phone, and finally I think I got a good deal for it. On Amazon it costed 150E more. I just wanted to know if the same thing happened to somebody else. Just, I cannot understand their marketing practice: gearbest had 30 phones in stock in UK and many more in China, but users need an invite to get one. It's hardly optimal to give priority to 'shady Chinese' retailer.
The only thing I can really blame on OnePlus is that their online software distribution is a bit weird. For instance one cannot download an official Oxygen 2.1, but has to start Oxygen 1.0 and then OTA to 2 and 2.1. It's fine, just it's not the same as nexus.
If you'd buy it with an invite via oneplus, there's no malware or bloatware installed!
Trinaaa said:
If you'd buy it with an invite via oneplus, there's no malware or bloatware installed!
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Can confirm this.
But really what seems to be the problem? You can clean flash OP2 without any issues. If you are looking to buy a device for a reduced price or without an invite, there might be a draw back. Clean flash and enjoy
I'm have same version, Chinese, but with a clean install of stock Oxygen OS, nothing of what you say is present.
Guys, take this as an habit, every time you buy a new phone (furthermore a "Google Experienced Device" such as Nexus, OnePlus, etc), factory reset + flash a clean firmware (those clean firmware are always on device's forum): it's ridiculously easy on this type of device ! So yeah, it's annoying when it's happened, but in content, that's not the most sh*ity about it!
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Guys, take this as an habit, every time you buy a new phone (furthermore a "Google Experienced Device" such as Nexus, OnePlus, etc), factory reset + flash a clean firmware (those clean firmware are always on device's forum): it's ridiculously easy on this type of device ! So yeah, it's annoying when it's happened, but in content, that's not the most sh*ity about it!
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Agreed, i also got mine from oppomart was bloated but i just factory reset and flash oxygen os myself, easy way and not something to complain about
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PetritH said:
Agreed, i also got mine from oppomart was bloated but i just factory reset and flash oxygen os myself, easy way and not something to complain about
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Or root it, and uninstall the bloatware apps.
Now that this phone is officially released, has anyone found a way to root it? I have the sprint version which is the ls992 and I want to root it. I saw a one click tool online but it's not in XDA so I don't think it's reliable. Thanks for any help
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, I'm coming from the LG g3 (ls990). I like the smaller screen, the fingerprint reader is very responsive, I dislike the moved volume buttons, dislike the audio jack being moved to the top although it DOES sound better, actually a good bit clearer. It feels really good in my hand but does get hotter than the LG g3. The material on the back has a good grippy feel almost, it's not particularly slick which is a good thing. I could hardly use my g3 with the stock back because of how slick it was. The cameras are PHENOMENAL. All of the picture modes provided are outstanding and not just gimmicks in my opinion.
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JCase claims to have a root method already but refuses to release it... even with his rep I doubt his claims.
If the bootloader is unlockable, it should be relatively easy to do.
I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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So the Sprint version has BL locked?
islandfever said:
So the Sprint version has BL locked?
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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Well bad news from Tmobile - I currently have the sprint ls990 LG G3 and decided to make the move to tmobile for the G5 because I was sick of locked bootloaders. The tmobile g5 does indeed have an unlockable bootloader however, LG seems to be using a custom bootloader on the G5 that wont flash anything that isnt verified. Tmobile's G5 already has a TWRP build and noone can flash it because of dm-verity. Essentially the tmobile appears to have an unlocked bootloader but lg has changed the bootloader so that it cant flash anything. That's the current status and I should add that I have not been able to try anything for myself because my phone hasnt arrived yet. But if that is the case on T-Mobile, then it's going to be even harder on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.
its locked but there's an unlock switch in the developers' options.
I came from lg g3 as well. Massive improvement and loving it so far.I have it thru verizon. Hoping for root soon that's all I really care about.
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ROOT????
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Not with a locked bootloader unless an exploit is found. It looks like the same uphill climb as with the SD820 S7/S7E now.
So for now no root, no development
fiddy619 said:
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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May see something at a talk later this year
Omg, if anyone can get this thing rooted, I'll throw 50 bucks your way. This is the only thing keeping my from buying this device 0.0
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
evobyte said:
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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Me too.
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
Locklear308 said:
This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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I think it mostly has to do with them not wanting the end user to be able to modify the device to get around things like paid hotspots and such. Carriers like sprint that have unlimited data but a paid by the GB hotspot plan potentially lose lots of money off of users getting it free with root. Also you probably have an ISP that rents you a cable modem. Those things are locked down and while you can buy your own - their locked down one, if modified can potentially increase speeds or bypass a meter. I think that ISPs (including cell carriers) like complete control so they can grab every penny and make it difficult to escape their grasps. Once again these are just my assumptions so I could be horribly wrong.
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