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I have had my new at&t atrix a few weeks now after replacing my htc aria that I modded with cm7 thanks to these forums. I have been reading like crazy and have only gotten more and more unsure of my best course of action. If someone could nudge me in the right direction, I sure would appreciate it.
My atrix came with 4.1.57 on it and I have been getting a notice for the 4.1.83 ota update which I have postponed until I understand how to keep my device hackable and unbricked. I ultimately want to accomplish the following:
I want to root the atrix.
I want to have the ability to backup/restore my phone with a recovery option like cwm.
I want the webtop/hdmi hack.
I want sideloading ability.
I want the the wifi hotspot hack.
I want the option to install other roms as they become available (so I guess that means I want the option to unlock the bootloader as needed for this purpose)
I also would like to get to Gingerbread at some point.
My major questions are:
Should I install any OTA updates?
Should I accomplish a backup/recovery capability as a first step?
Should I root or bl unlock before or after I upgrade the android version?
Do I need to do the webtop, hotspot, sideload mods before or after the android upgrades?
I'm not asking for a hand holding here. If someone could just give me the order I should do things in, I can research how to do the steps (links would be especially kind however). Now that there is an official OTA of Gingerbread available (which I think unlocks the BL), I am unsure what I need to do....in what order.....to accomplish the stated goals while also preserving my options for the future goodies that might come along. I feel bad asking but I really have tried to figure it out on my own and just need the advice of someone who has the big picture...please! Thanks in advance
OTA to 1.8.3 It's a good place to start. Will also fix a few issues people had with 1.5.7. Easy to root and enable sideloading with Gingerbreak and gladenable (I think was the sideloading one...someone correct me if I'm wrong). The webtop hack, hotspot mod, and (older style)CWM from Tenfar work great. Can flash back and for between and 1.x.x build as much as you want. It's when you get to the GingerBread build that you can't flash back to older versions...(unless special exceptions are made and I'm not going into that here...search is your friend)
I'd OTA to 1.8.3 and then start playing...but that's just me.
Sorry no links to give...search for gingerbreak and (I think) gladenable.
Hi, this is the first time i try to help someone here so i hope this is what you want.
I Search a lot here and they send me to a page and also to a youtube video of how
Can you do it. I don't know if i can put the link here but very easy just do
A google search for "atrix4ghacks" and go to that page over there you find how to do it
It works very great for me, know i'm looking the best way to get the gingerbread 2.3.4
The first step it to OTA to 1.83 then unlock the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
- use the unlocker sbf
The second step it to install CWM Recovery Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
Now that you have the bootloader unlocked you have support for installing custom roms later just make sure you DONT DO THE OTA UPDATE TO GB it will hard brick your device with boot error.
now that you have CWM you can backup all your data and system files the next step is to ROOT and enable sideloading you can do that using GladiAtrix
Then you can install Webtop mod from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015630 webtop
i dont know how to do the Wifi Hotspot hack but im pretty sure you have to edit the build.prop in sys and you have to be rooted in order to acces those files, so that's it that should leave you with a rooted unlocked phone and with all the other features you want if you want to move to GB later you can flash a GB sfb with the unlocked bootloader integrated in the sbf from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526
Just remember if you are on 1.83 with unlocked bootloader dont OTA to GB it will hard brick your device.
Hope this helps and btw i take no credit for the links, that's somebody elses job.
Thanks a ton. Thats exactly what I needed. One question....if I do the last step (sbf to gbread), will I still be able to have root, cwm, and the webtop/sideload hacks? Or is that premature?
Slightly stuck.....
solidsebazz said:
The first step it to OTA to 1.83 then unlock the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
- use the unlocker sbf
I did this and was surprised to find that all my apps and settings were wiped. I did see that /data needed to be backed up but no matter how I tried, I did not find any /data partition that had anything in it. Assuming that was my mistake, how would I have accessed and backed up that partition? Spilt milk but I am still curious.
The second step it to install CWM Recovery Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
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The /system/etc/install-recover.sh file is read only and so cannot be removed...I am assuming I need root to change the permissions. I was able to boot into recovery the first time but then the subsequent boots would give me the exclamation. I guess I have a backup and now I can go root.
You must root in order to be able to write over the original files, you can use Gladiatrix to root then you can use root explorer to overwrite the previous files in the system folder,
you mean you cant go into cwm?
sorry for the late reply im having a hard time keeping track of all my posts besause i changed my email adress and i can figure out how to change it from xda account if you need any more help pm me
winsall said:
Thanks a ton. Thats exactly what I needed. One question....if I do the last step (sbf to gbread), will I still be able to have root, cwm, and the webtop/sideload hacks? Or is that premature?
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Yes i actually have rooted GB on my phone and CWM flashed, you can enable sideload on GB without rooting or doing anything, thats the new policy about sideloading from at&t yada yada yada... webtom hack over hdmi is still in development we should have that in no time
Help Can't Update OTA Gingerbread 2.3.4 Not Rooted Droid X2
I have been trying for a month no luck
no help from Moto or Verizon.
I'd like to get this update
See attachment this is what I get
when I try 2 Pull
Thank You
You could always try to SBF and see if that helps. Applying a SBF is fairly simple, check out some of the guides on the forum.
+1 to sbf comment
U could even just sbf straight to 2.3.4
Did u ever root before at all?(this phone that is)
ashclepdia said:
+1 to sbf comment
U could even just sbf straight to 2.3.4
Did u ever root before at all?(this phone that is)
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I 'd like to fix this problem of no OTA updated
No (No)
This is my first smartphone.
Got it mid-July
Thank You
ImgBurn said:
Help Can't Update OTA Gingerbread 2.3.4 Not Rooted Droid X2
I have been trying for a month no luck
no help from Moto or Verizon.
I'd like to get this update
See attachment this is what I get
when I try 2 Pull
Thank You
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SBF is always an option, if you're comfortable doing it. It's nothing really.
So you jumped through vzw support hoops and they just leave you hanging?! I'd tell them you want it replaced w/ another for which the replacement will likely come w/ 2.3.4 installed. Have you tried taking it to a corporate store and ask if they can manually push it to your phone?
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
Have you attempted to update while connected.to wifi?
I've always updated over wifi...
Have you done anything to this phone? Where did you get the phone? I only ask because if the phone came from someone else, perhaps something was done to it.
Many times people rename some of their files or uninstall some of the files, like fota and updater and it will fail to update. Aside from that, SBF is probably the most effecient way to fix the issue.
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Have you done anything to this phone? Where did you get the phone? I only ask because if the phone came from someone else, perhaps something was done to it.
Many times people rename some of their files or uninstall some of the files, like fota and updater and it will fail to update. Aside from that, SBF is probably the most effecient way to fix the issue.
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Hi
I've done very little to phone purchased
from Verizon in mid July. Froyo 2.2.2 was
installed. Sometime in August updated OTA
to GingerBread 2.3.3 no problem.
Fastfoward to present I've tried for last
month no push and when I try to pull
always get same result see attached.
I just don't get it...
Try checking this setting. You will want to make sure it's enabled and that you can make and receive phone calls.
Battery & Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Background Data -> Enabled
If that does not work for you, you can also try to reset to factory defaults. This may fix the issue but you'll lose all your personal settings.
Undoubtedly, unless there is a hardware problem with your phone, which is possible but not probable, SBFing directly to 2.3.4 WILL fix the issue. Again, you'll lose your settings and such but you'll have a fresh phone and you can move on to greener pastures instead of worrying about what is wrong with the phone.
You can find a very well written guide that will walk you through the process below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
This is what I would recommend as you could spend hours, days, even months trying to fix your phone and still not find out what app or quirky issue the phone is having. Applying an SBF update sounds complicated but in reality, its as simple as installing a driver for a printer.
Simply plug in the device, run an application, point it do the SBF file, and leave it alone until it finishes. The guide goes into detail, including the resources you'll need, such as the SBF file, the Motorola Drivers, RSD Lite, and what to expect.
Even if you choose to continue troubleshooting, I would recommend reading the guide anyway just to familiarize yourself with how your phone works. In the future it'll make troubleshooting your phone a bit easier.
Hope that helps!
reaktorblue
This looked like the solution crosses fingers
(Battery & Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Background Data -> Enabled)
I was hoping as I had turned off my Phone to charge it. I though o yea
this is the problem. No such luck it was enabled. I'd like to try the
SBFing directly to 2.3.4 but don't you have to be rooted. I didn't really want
to root at this point with this issue of no OTA.
Setting to factory defaults looks like what I'll try but losing all my settings
ah. Is there any way to back up phone so not to lose all my settings
with out rooting.
Thank You
Thank everyone for all the suggestions
P.S. I was on the phone with VZ yesterday for 2.5 Hours
The Tech ended up telling me there was no update .
Last Update was 2.3.3 in August.
WoW Whats Up With That??
ImgBurn said:
reaktorblue
This looked like the solution crosses fingers
(Battery & Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Background Data -> Enabled)
I was hoping as I had turned off my Phone to charge it. I though o yea
this is the problem. No such luck it was enabled. I'd like to try the
SBFing directly to 2.3.4 but don't you have to be rooted. I didn't really want
to root at this point with this issue of no OTA.
Setting to factory defaults looks like what I'll try but losing all my settings
ah. Is there any way to back up phone so not to lose all my settings
with out rooting.
Thank You
Thank everyone for all the suggestions
P.S. I was on the phone with VZ yesterday for 2.5 Hours
The Tech ended up telling me there was no update .
Last Update was 2.3.3 in August.
WoW Whats Up With That??
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AH yes...the trusty vzw level one tech
U better believe there is a 2.3.4 lol. I was in the soak test for it and the Motorola forum manager Matt announced it being released lol
Oh yeah. MAYBE u will have some.luck over there if u wanna try Motorola support forums before sbf route. Droidx2 forum manager Matt MAY(can't say he has ALWAYS been helpful) help ya out.
Aldo vzwsupport on twitter I find better than phoning them. Motorola also has tech support on twitter.
But u DO NOT have to be rooted in order to sbf.
not even a little bit lol.
if u WERE rooted sbf would make u lose that root.
Sbf rewrites your system partition and flashes the necessary files and "stuff"(lol) so that your phone is "factory out of box" condition. Root is totally NOT NEEDED to do an SBF.
U hook up to your computer.
Put ur.phone into RSD protocol mode and.use the rsdlite program u can download to ur computer(w/ necessary drivers) and flash the sbf file to ur phone.
pretty simple thing.to do.
Longest part really is downloading the necessary drivers and programs and files.
Go here to read a great easy to follow tutorial on how to sbf.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
It has ALL the necessary links to downloads for sbf files, drivers, rsdlite program, etc
Everything u could need is I'm that thread
don't be.intimidated by the lengthy tutorial. It is easier than u think.
PLUS if u have any questions or.need clarification u can post in that thread and someone knowledgeable will help you out.
or u can get on the #dx2 channel at webchat.freenode.net for "real time" help. Its an IRC(chatroom) for us X2 users. Usually someone is there who can help ya out
ALSO please keep us updated on ur situation. If u find a solution PLEASE POST IT HERE...so that way others who run into this problem can.find the solution they need
Good luck brotha!
WTF
Hy guys,
Thanks for all your help & suggestions ashclepdia, reaktorblue
& X0dus. You won't, I can't believe this is what was stopping me
from getting update. I saw it before but reading it's description
I didn't think it would be a problem and I'd save battery
power. I had this setting checked (as you see in attached)
the second I unchecked it and returned to home screen update
was available.
WoW I spent hours no days with moto & vz level 2 tech's and
not 1 every went over my setting's. The level of incompetence
& misinformation from these 2 company's well they should hang there
heads in shame. Don't get me started I could write a book about
all the nonsense these 2 have put me through sense buying
this phone from vz in July 2011. Sorry For the rant.
Anyway I sincerely want to thank all you guys for your help
& suggestions. There's more talent in this post then vz & moto
L2 techs put together . This forum ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. So I guess if you don't want an update check this box .
Also New Rules corporate store only have salesman got
this from L2 tech & calling local store. Guess we know
there priorities.
Hahaha....I guess our android system is considered a "social application " in itself lol...
Good to see ya got the fix...and glad it ended up not being something serious.
Could u also add the word "SOLVED" to the beginning of thread title for others who experience this problem.
And yeah...I have been told by many people that I should try to get a job as a phone tech support since im always helping my friends/coworker fix phone problems Hahaha...and I still consider myself to be a "noob "to Lol
Please bear with me
OK I have a rooted Dx2 ver. 2.3.3 i need to send in my Dx2 for replacement but Verizon told me they won't unless i have the current vers. of GB 2.3.4.
To unroot there is an app in the market that will remove it completely, including all the symbolic links, its called Ginger Unroot.
Ginger Unroot did the trick, i re-installed all the bloat ran Ginger Unroot, but i missed unfreezing 2 files i think they were "update" and "updater".
So when i went to settings - about phone - System Updates, but it does not work.
So i screwed up now i just want to root the phone and if the files are still there, unfreeze the the 2 files and unroot again and d/l the 2.3.4 OTA.
Here's where i really need help i was going to use Gingerbreak to root but i found out it is no longer supported i think it is because i'm running 2.3.3
I have been searching for days on what to do and all i have found out there does not appear that a one click root does not exist.
I have heard that i might have to SBF back to froyo??
Can i do it on a mac?
i'm worried that i will need to do it on a pc.
Also what version of windows do i need to use?
If i have to SBF can i d/l the files and go to an internet cafe or kinkos and use a pc to do this?
Here's an example are the drivers for the phone or are they meant to be run on a pc, would an internet cafe or kinkos let me do this installing software on their computers.
*Install the necessary moto drivers*
* Motorola_End_User_Driver_Installation_5.1.0 32bit or 64bit depending on your computer's CPU architecture
First do you know if i do gain root again will the 2 files show up or have they been
deleted, gone forever.
If this is the only way, can someone tell me exactly what i need to do. I don't want to try to follow any posts because if im at a kinkos or someplace i can access a pc. i don't want to wind up getting stuck or not understanding something.
If i can get to a pc i see that you need to use terminal commands, if i have to do it that way i'll be lost and screw up something.
Please help i don't want to get to a place that i might not fully understand
In other words a Dumbed down set of instructions.
I'm not knocking forums but because of my disability i get lost and frustrated with all the info you can find. I really need to get any help from one person, i get very confused easly
Which method do you recommend/easies: It seems Wugfresh has a one click vers. which is still confusing. I have come across other posts on how to reroot which is making it nearly impossible to follow.
I have ADD and i'm ready to give up and hope i can tell Verizon it won't update and won't discover the 2 missing files, do you think if i just tell them it won't update, and having removed any signs of it was rooted, do you think i can get away with this "playing dumb" cus so far over the past 2 weeks i have gotten responses from my posts that don't help, i just get told to "see this post" and tell me to try this or that.
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I am really burned out, please tell me what you recommend.
To be frank i would just like to return it as is, do you think i can get away with this?
Thanks
sknoxx
Doing an sbf is probably going to be your best bet. Check stickies there should be info on sbfing on a Mac.
This thread on rootzwiki may have some useful info for you.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1948-is-there-a-way-to-sbf-from-mac/
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
A sbf will solve your problems and I believe it can work with any software mine is vista. Go to the development section first post from booked and he has all the files you need. Use Pete's one click root very easy. Don't give up you will just have to read some.
Hey there! Welcome in! Got to my tutorial thread here: HowTo: Perform a SBF ("factory restore") of your Motorola Droid X2. This will walk you through, step by step, how to perform an SBF restore. If you have questions, either post them in that thread, or PM me. It's simple and straight forward.
Is it possible for anyone to create/point me to a downloadable stock ROM? I mean literally STOCK, as in, nothing changed. I think that might be the only way for me to get back to being able to receive OTA updates without fastbooting (which I have tried to no avail).
Thanks!
there you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416058
Yeah, see...fastboot doesn't work for me - already tried it a bunch of times. For some odd reason. I mean, does someone have a stock ROOTED ROM I could flash. As in, something with all apps preserved as if the device were not rooted. That way, I can take the OTA update (and break root, but at this point I just don't want to be trapped in OS 2.3.5 forever). Thanks (again)!
Are you able to access stock recovery?
Yes, I am. Will that help?
on my maxx, having the same issue as you, i factory restored, i guess that might have replaced/fix any corrupt files and i was able to fastboot. Unfortunately, i speak from personal experience and not knowledge of the operating system. good luck.
I did a factory data reset and it did not fix the problem, sadly. Looks like I'm in a hole with no ladder out lol. I can always hope that a stock rooted ROM is available so I can use my recently-recovered root to flash and then take the OTA over that, if possible.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/457-rom-totally-stock-rooted-748/page__pid__14816#entry14816
Link is dead; they're looking to fix it though I think. Thanks though! I'll give it a shot.
If you can take the update, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492708 can root the new 2.3.6
Doomlords method still can unroot if need be.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda premium
Thanks! I'll keep it in mind. Right now I'm looking for a way to be able to get the update though
Yeah I'm in the same boat. Need this link to work!!! Can someone please post another working link?
http://forum.eternityproject.eu/mot...f7/official-motorola-razr-roms-thread-t4.html
I hope this helps
I think we just need a stock ROM, not the OTA. We can't flash the OTA (even an older one) like a ROM, right?
Atlas.rouge said:
I think we just need a stock ROM, not the OTA. We can't flash the OTA (even an older one) like a ROM, right?
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That is the stock rom. The second post includes 2 stock versions and 2 OTA. Just download the stock Rom. Atleast i think thats a flashable ROM
Theres this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
Is the only option to flash these via adb and rsd lite?
Question: (rather than creating new thread)
what's the different between ROM and Fastboot files? Examples?
Coz i downloaded Brazil.en fastboot, use RSD Lite, and flashed my GSM Rogers RAZR. works great.
But i also have SafeStrap installed, and I can make backup (and restore) from it. Are those ROMs? Or just backup files?
I thought people flash their phones using mod ROMs using CWM/Safestrap too?
I know OTA is over-the-air, but u can also download and manually install "OTA" updates? so... are they OTA ROM then?
or just OTA "files". like backup files CWM made?
thx for explanations
MBL85 said:
Is the only option to flash these via adb and rsd lite?
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That was the way I did it, Ive read about a few others like;
motofail
DroidRAZRUtility1.4LITE
vulnfactory.org/blog/2012/02/11/rooting-the-droid-4-a-failed-bounty-experiment/
But flashing with RSDlite was how I did it and it worked fine, just wish I had the original ROM with all the bloatware just in case....
Yeah, see for some reason fastboot doesn't like me, which is why I'm trying to get ahold of a complete stock ROM lol. I know that fastboot *works* all the time, but rather than go through the hassle I was just hoping someone had a spare total stock ROM floating around haha
Do I have to flash a stock rom to check for updates. Reason being motorola sent me an email yesterday inviting me to test something. It was very clear in black and white that it is not a soak test. Could just be an app. I dont know. But my phone is currently on cm10.2. If they push an update to my phone will I get it or do I have to go back to stock.
Please do not go asking moto a bunch of questions as you will get no answers and just wast peoples and your own time.
And If I return to stock can I flash a zip or do I have to sbf
Um... How about you sit down and think about it for a moment?
How exactly do you expect to get an UPDATE to something you don't have (ie. stock firmware)?
what I wanted to know is if I would get an update file if I wasn't stock. not if I could update if I wasnt stock. I will use my google translate to figure that means sbf back to stock and a flashable zip will not work. I was not sure what was used to send the file. I know they Use your IMEI but I dont know if that is all. I just want whatever they have to offer. Maybe not even to install it on my phone. But I would like the file to look at and see whats inside.They may just want to test an app or feature. I dont even use my atrix as a phone. I just play with it from time to time. and I don't think it is an update as it was clear it is not a soak test. but I will answer my own question and go back to stock.
Yes, if it is an motorola update, you need to go back to stock
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OK hate to do this BUT can anyone point me to how to sbf back to stock. I have done it before but cannot find the info I used. I have searched in circles for about an hour.
I used fruitcake to go to stock and checked for updates for last couple days would say up to date, or something along those lines. today whenever i check for updates it says "Check for update is not available at this time. Try again later" I do not know if that is because I have custom TWRP recovery or bc I am rooted or if their server is to busy. I just want the phone to be ready if they push something to it. As I said I have done it before on my previous atrix I just dont remember how. I dont know if I used fastboot, RSD or what. but I got rid of unlocked on boot and everything.
If a fruitcake is good enough that would be awesome
If you want to get rid of all the customizations, then an sbf file is the way to go. beware, because flashing and incorrect sbf can make you atrix a nice paperweight
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If you want to get rid of all the customizations, then an sbf file is the way to go. beware, because flashing and incorrect sbf can make you atrix a nice paperweight
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I dont know if I need complete stock. I have used sbf to return to stock before. got rid of unlocked text so could send in on warranty. The problem is finding the sbf file again. this is an older device and alot of links are dead ends. I just want to be able to check for updates. I looked at my emails for previous emails about testing for moto and last test started 14 days after original email and they sent me an email at that time saying test will begin. So for now I am going to leave my fruitcake rom on and wait for my email. Will see then if i can get it.
For now thank you to all who have helped
affiatic said:
I dont know if I need complete stock. I have used sbf to return to stock before. got rid of unlocked text so could send in on warranty. The problem is finding the sbf file again. this is an older device and alot of links are dead ends. I just want to be able to check for updates. I looked at my emails for previous emails about testing for moto and last test started 14 days after original email and they sent me an email at that time saying test will begin. So for now I am going to leave my fruitcake rom on and wait for my email. Will see then if i can get it.
For now thank you to all who have helped
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google didn't provide much help did it? and those are one time only emails, but there's a nice little stash of all moto sbfs out there
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/
enjoy!