[Q] which radio - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is best for download/upload speeds, not too worried about battery life or any of that none sense.

Dr Jeff 281 said:
is best for download/upload speeds, not too worried about battery life or any of that none sense.
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Don't really think you will notice a big difference no matter what radio you choose. Try them out and see which one gives you best coverage, I always stay with the latest radio, but that's me.

The official MR2 has been working great for me in all areas. I agree with the poster above tho I doubt you will notice much of a difference speed wise. I know you said you don't care but with the MR2 official when my phone is sleeping (just sitting in my pocket etc..) it uses like NO battery.
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JBO1018 said:
The official MR2 has been working great for me in all areas. I agree with the poster above tho I doubt you will notice much of a difference speed wise. I know you said you don't care but with the MR2 official when my phone is sleeping (just sitting in my pocket etc..) it uses like NO battery.
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I agree with this, the BEST battery life I got was with the official MR2, i'm using the latest right now. I'm getting about 35-37 hours with the extended batt. With MR2 I was up around 45-50.

I have gotten similar performance from all of the MR2xx radios.

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Best radio for CM7?

hey guys, I'm running CM7 and I have tested several different radios and they were all pretty bad. Does anyone have any recommendations on what I should use? Thanks!
Define "bad."
Speed test are not always accurate, if that's what you're getting at.
Used mr2 and was good. Every upgrade seems to be better. And the newest 802 is ridiculously fast with nice switchovers between Gs and no issues.
I used 2.5 when I was running AO5PTH3ORY... it worked great. I had no issues connecting to 3g and 4g.
+1 802 working great for me. I've been running DroidTh3ory's AO5P roms, based on cm7.
yareally said:
Define "bad."
Speed test are not always accurate, if that's what you're getting at.
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Sorry, by bad i meant terrible battery life. Maybe its my area. No matter what radio I have ever used my 4g and 3g would always switch back and forth and I think that drains battery pretty quick..
paulhf said:
Sorry, by bad i meant terrible battery life. Maybe its my area. No matter what radio I have ever used my 4g and 3g would always switch back and forth and I think that drains battery pretty quick..
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Try recalibrating your battery if you have not. I would also stay off LTE as much as possible unless you need it. LTE just drains your battery like a thirsty man does a glass of water.
yareally said:
Try recalibrating your battery if you have not. I would also stay off LTE as much as possible unless you need it. LTE just drains your battery like a thirsty man does a glass of water.
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should i recalibrate my battery every time i install a new radio?
paulhf said:
should i recalibrate my battery every time i install a new radio?
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I only do it when I feel my battery life is degrading. That could happen any time you so a lot of updating.

whats acceptable 4g battery drain?

running liquid aosp+ kangbang. overclocked to 1228/245 ondemand. off the charger at 9am im now down to 75% with virtually no usage. is this bad for 4g being on?
looking at battery usage is says cellular radio is taking up everything. im on the latest leaked radio too. i wonder if i should go back the the last official ota radio.
fixxxer2008 said:
running liquid aosp+ kangbang. overclocked to 1228/245 ondemand. off the charger at 9am im now down to 75% with virtually no usage. is this bad for 4g being on?
looking at battery usage is says cellular radio is taking up everything. im on the latest leaked radio too. i wonder if i should go back the the last official ota radio.
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That's about double what mine is using on standby with no use. I'm looking at about 1.6% per hour standby. I'm on the RUU 2.11 radio too. I've got my sync schedule set up to fairly conservatively, and made sure it doesn't update whether whenever the widget is viewed.
loonatik78 said:
That's about double what mine is using on standby with no use. I'm looking at about 1.6% per hour standby. I'm on the RUU 2.11 radio too. I've got my sync schedule set up to fairly conservatively, and made sure it doesn't update whether whenever the widget is viewed.
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well it must be the new radio then.
fixxxer2008 said:
well it must be the new radio then.
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I'd point the finger at the ROM. I'm using the same radio and getting much better results than you're showing, and I'm using a Sense ROM. Your's should be equal or better than that. Even under moderately heavy use I can eek out 10 to 12 hours on a charge. You should definitely be doing better than that on an AOSP ROM, I would think.
I would stay off LTE unless you're actually using it. It's just a waste if your phone is just idling.
loonatik78 said:
I'd point the finger at the ROM. I'm using the same radio and getting much better results than you're showing, and I'm using a Sense ROM. Your's should be equal or better than that. Even under moderately heavy use I can eek out 10 to 12 hours on a charge. You should definitely be doing better than that on an AOSP ROM, I would think.
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i doubt its the rom as i never had this until i used the leaked radio. id use a sense rom but the volume is too low for me. the aosp kernels have the audio tweaks.
yareally said:
I would stay off LTE unless you're actually using it. It's just a waste if your phone is just idling.
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well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
i loaded up the latest official ota radio and will test tonight. worse comes to worse ill have to look for a different rom.
fixxxer2008 said:
well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
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i said turn it off when not in use, not when you are letting your phone sleep. back in the day when 3g came out, it was a battery drainer too.
yareally said:
i said turn it off when not in use, not when you are letting your phone sleep. back in the day when 3g came out, it was a battery drainer too.
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CDMA is STILL a battery killer. It can kill a battery FAR, FAR faster than LTE ever could. I'm inclined to agree with Fixxxer2008; what's the point in having LTE if you can't just use it? And at 1.4 percent per hour idling, I'm not sure that qualifies as a grotesque overuse of power. I think that's conservative by ANY measure.
Buy the extended battery.
I refuse to neuter my phone.
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If the OP wants to take the time to deal with it, I would wipe /system, /cache, dalvik cache and /data and redo their rom over again with only restoring user data at the most. Perhaps something just coincidentally went out of wack with the latest update you did for the ROM. I doubt it's the radio doing it, but it would take more time/effort to know like reading through the logcat to see if there's anything weird going on and such.
i was gettibg pretty decent battery with CM7 + DreamKernal + MR 3.5 radio
i could watch a whole movie and it would use abour 10% battery
that and when i'd go to sleep(normally 5 - 6 hours), when i woke up it lost about 7 - 8% battery.
i switched to the latest Synergy + DreamKernal + MR 3.5 radio
only did so because of issues with Skype
now it consumes 13 - 15% battery watching a movie, and wheb i wake up it's used more then 20% battery.
i have the 2750 extended battery
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If the OP wants to take the time to deal with it, I would wipe /system, /cache, dalvik cache and /data and redo their rom over again with only restoring user data at the most. Perhaps something just coincidentally went out of wack with the latest update you did for the ROM. I doubt it's the radio doing it, but it would take more time/effort to know like reading through the logcat to see if there's anything weird going on and such.
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Im testing a new kernel. I already wiped cache and dalvik.
fixxxer2008 said:
well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
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Use a ROM that allows you to toggle between 3 and 4g. That way you can switch to 4g when you'really in data-heavy mode and idle in 3g.
I believe at least a Chingy related ROM has such a toggle.
OffcerClancy said:
Use a ROM that allows you to toggle between 3 and 4g. That way you can switch to 4g when you'really in data-heavy mode and idle in 3g.
I believe at least a Chingy related ROM has such a toggle.
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Go back and read the thread. I'm using about 1.3 percent an hour at idle. I'm running a Chingy ROM. I don't toggle LTE. Cutting the balls off your device isn't much of an answer. That's like cutting your arm off to cure an infection. That answer ain't good enough for me, and I'm feeling its not good enough for him.
im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
CanesDrew said:
Buy the extended battery.
I refuse to neuter my phone.
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nah...i don't want my phone to look like a brick. i may get an extended slimline one though.
fixxxer2008 said:
im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
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I have been using the same kernel and I get awesome numbers?
Remember to use the settings in terminal it recommends so you can choose how much it will undervolt and which governor it will use.
And exit the menu using 14 otherwise what you choose will not be saved.
Bryan
fixxxer2008 said:
im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
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my friend was having drain issues with some of imo's latest aosp kernels on cm7 so they ended up going back to the default kernel for cm7 and that cleared it up

2.11.605.0 > verizon official gb - Do I want To?

Do I want to go there. I see some comments on how the battery life is worse following the update, not better, and my current ROM (2.11.605.0) has been substantially better then the stock, as far as battery life is concerned (30% Better). My only gripe with the current ROM is the camera issue, that i use the date workaround on whenever i reboot (which is by choice).
I dont want to ruin a good thing. Anyone have any input in this area? Thanks in advance.
*Digs into goodies bag*
2.11.605.0, stock-ish?
Here ya go.
This is a patch.
http://www.multiupload.com/T8YG3M4PJ8
Thanks, but has the final build nuked the battery life gains in 605?
arcavasion said:
Thanks, but has the final build nuked the battery life gains in 605?
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The differences between .0 and .3 are in camera libs, HTC footprints, troubleshooting loggers, and Exchange Mail.
I cant forsee that doing anything to battery.
arcavasion said:
Thanks, but has the final build nuked the battery life gains in 605?
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If I recall correctly, there's like 15 files that are different out of who knows how many tens of thousands. So no, it doesn't.
It's weird rumors like this that make me disbelieve all those folks out there who make statements about which radio is better or what kind of battery life they're really getting.
loonatik78 said:
It's weird rumors like this that make me disbelieve all those folks out there who make statements about which radio is better or what kind of battery life they're really getting.
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QFT
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adrynalyne said:
The differences between .0 and .3 are in camera libs, HTC footprints, troubleshooting loggers, and Exchange Mail.
I cant forsee that doing anything to battery.
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That's interesting...I've heard a lot of people who received the borked OTA complaining about Exchange problems.

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Since 4G On The 3D Runs On WiMAX Which Is Wifi, Would It Be Better For Battery Life Than 3G? I Ask This Becouse Wifi Gets Better Battery Life Than 3G And Whenever I'm On 4G It Doesn't Seem To Kill My Phone.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Since 4G On The 3D Runs On WiMAX Which Is Wifi, Would It Be Better For Battery Life Than 3G? I Ask This Becouse Wifi Gets Better Battery Life Than 3G And Whenever I'm On 4G It Doesn't Seem To Kill My Phone.
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I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
coal686 said:
I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
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I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
TheDaltanian said:
I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
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I've seen a couple posts saying Meanrom ics is killing battery pretty quickly. It may, I haven't updated the past 2 versions... But in one of the latest versions, he's did post less emphasis on battery savings and more on power. I'm on an earlier version and get great battery life.
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TheDaltanian said:
I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
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Screen off time on ICS is substantially better than screen off time on GB (like 1% drain every 3 hours). Screen on time seems to be worse. In the end, I get through the entire day using MeanROM ICS with about 50% battery left (today: 13.5 hours off charger with 1.5 hours screen on time). So, it is not quite as good as GB, but since I recharge every night anyway and I love ICS's interface and features, I stick with it. I am going to flash ZR3dX tonight to see what the new version is about though.
coal686 said:
I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
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I Am And I Definitely Will And Report Back Over-And-Out

Horrible battery life on 1.58.502.1

Am I the only one? I just updated 3 days ago with RUU to the latest build. Before the update a full charge would last me about a day and a half with moderate use. Now with the new update I am lucky to last half a day without it going into Power Saving Mode, then about 2 hours later it will be in Extreme Power Saving Mode. Anyone else getting sh!tty battery life since the update?...
Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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At the risk of sounding like a noob.... Whats ART?
Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
redpoint73 said:
Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
CavyS said:
Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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How is asking if anyone is noticing decreased battery life after 1.58 any different from comparing battery life? Its the same thing.
I can guarantee that there are some people that have experienced worse battery life; and some have seen the same or better battery after 1.58 (as this has and will occur for any new OTA/RUU).
Not trying to be argumentative, but my point is whether folks have seen decreased battery life or not is somewhat irrelevant, and isn't going to solve your problem. Better to look into what processes are actually causing the drain, and go from there.
try booting into stock recovery and wiping cache partition...has helped some folks in past
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
CavyS said:
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
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redpoint73 said:
Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
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Oh yeah, full charge yesterday, using it just as much as I normally would and when I plugged it before I went to be still had 86% battery life. Compared to being on 15% by 4 in the afternoon.

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