Do I want to go there. I see some comments on how the battery life is worse following the update, not better, and my current ROM (2.11.605.0) has been substantially better then the stock, as far as battery life is concerned (30% Better). My only gripe with the current ROM is the camera issue, that i use the date workaround on whenever i reboot (which is by choice).
I dont want to ruin a good thing. Anyone have any input in this area? Thanks in advance.
*Digs into goodies bag*
2.11.605.0, stock-ish?
Here ya go.
This is a patch.
http://www.multiupload.com/T8YG3M4PJ8
Thanks, but has the final build nuked the battery life gains in 605?
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Thanks, but has the final build nuked the battery life gains in 605?
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The differences between .0 and .3 are in camera libs, HTC footprints, troubleshooting loggers, and Exchange Mail.
I cant forsee that doing anything to battery.
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If I recall correctly, there's like 15 files that are different out of who knows how many tens of thousands. So no, it doesn't.
It's weird rumors like this that make me disbelieve all those folks out there who make statements about which radio is better or what kind of battery life they're really getting.
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It's weird rumors like this that make me disbelieve all those folks out there who make statements about which radio is better or what kind of battery life they're really getting.
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QFT
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The differences between .0 and .3 are in camera libs, HTC footprints, troubleshooting loggers, and Exchange Mail.
I cant forsee that doing anything to battery.
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That's interesting...I've heard a lot of people who received the borked OTA complaining about Exchange problems.
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OK, I have written an app to attempt and stop call wonkyness on CM7 builds. Specifically the phone locking up when making and receiving calls.
It's my observation that it's the mic that causes the phone to lock up and so this app opens and closes the mic every minute to keep it "fresh". It's a long shot, but I can't seem to duplicate wonkyness with it enabled so I'm posting it for other to try.
Now after a few positive comments to help boost my confidence in the app, I've made it's own thread to make it easy to track comments.
Just install and run (or just reboot as it auto-start on boot). To disable, uninstall it.
Please post your results!
Change Log:
Version 1.4
Made service more persistent by adding notification bar. Turns out, Android was killing off the service when memory was running low causing wonk to surface.
Version 1.3
Can only be installed on internal memory. Needed to make sure the service can started up on boot. (Thanks to mjukis for pointing this out)
Version 1.2
Only dewonkificates when screen is off to avoid conflicts with any apps you may be using.
Removed debug logging
[Post edited because the wonkyness is still there and this .apk works fine to fix it]
Dude.... As best as I can tell in 20 minutes' time, this damn thing seems to actually work! Gotta tell ya how skeptical I was....but I'm pretty flippin' pleased right now!
Good looking out!!
Much appreciated for this app.
While it's still too early to say it's 100% working, so far so good.
I have had the wonk since build 3 to 23 (except for 16).
I will keep testing and report back often.
That's great news and I'm happy that it looks like it's working for people. I was on the edge of rolling back and this was a desperate attempt to fix it.
Agree with the op. Can't say for sure its the miracle I've been waiting for... but 4 calls in (admittedly 2 from myself, ) no wonks. When I'd expect all to be wonky
If this 'wonklessisity' continues you will surely become supreme ruler of xda!
Will report back soon.
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That's great news and I'm happy that it looks like it's working for people. I was on the edge of rolling back and this was a desperate attempt to fix it.
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What are your thoughts and battery impact?....and would some timeframe greater or less than 1 min. factor in??
Does this fix it?
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,2642
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Does this fix it?
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,2642
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No, that's a different problem.
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What are your thoughts and battery impact?....and would some timeframe greater or less than 1 min. factor in??
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
I also believe it have something to do with the mic, since all apps that use it have the same freeze, and it seems to work for me. Thanks
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
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Seems reasonable enough, to me.
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Currently I can't see any measurable battery drain. Dewonkificator doesn't even show on the About phone->Battery use screen. Increasing the time between dewonkification might be work, but since battery doesn't seem to be a issue and we don't know what the source of the problem is I don't think its worth risking or investigating.
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Maybe watchdog would be a better app for checking. Would give us a better idea of CPU use. Also juice plotter may help see prior and after install battery consumption
I've tested it,and havent got any wongkiness for today. I think its working...
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Got source?
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Got source?
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gracias!
You deserve an E-Cookie for coming up with such an awesome name
Wonky just visited me when my wife called. Installed your dewonky app for testing.
Thanks.
This bug is the reason I got off CM7 nightlies, so damn annoying. Maybe this is a Gingerbread thing rather than a Nexus S problem cause the Nexus S is supposed to be rebooting itself while in calls as I'm sure everyone knows.
is best for download/upload speeds, not too worried about battery life or any of that none sense.
Dr Jeff 281 said:
is best for download/upload speeds, not too worried about battery life or any of that none sense.
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Don't really think you will notice a big difference no matter what radio you choose. Try them out and see which one gives you best coverage, I always stay with the latest radio, but that's me.
The official MR2 has been working great for me in all areas. I agree with the poster above tho I doubt you will notice much of a difference speed wise. I know you said you don't care but with the MR2 official when my phone is sleeping (just sitting in my pocket etc..) it uses like NO battery.
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The official MR2 has been working great for me in all areas. I agree with the poster above tho I doubt you will notice much of a difference speed wise. I know you said you don't care but with the MR2 official when my phone is sleeping (just sitting in my pocket etc..) it uses like NO battery.
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I agree with this, the BEST battery life I got was with the official MR2, i'm using the latest right now. I'm getting about 35-37 hours with the extended batt. With MR2 I was up around 45-50.
I have gotten similar performance from all of the MR2xx radios.
Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
bluebeanie said:
Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
bluebeanie said:
Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Very common at about the 10 to 12 month mark. Battery starts to swell. You can get stronger battery for $8 on amazon.
Glad everything is working better, still want to stay clean though.
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Am I the only one? I just updated 3 days ago with RUU to the latest build. Before the update a full charge would last me about a day and a half with moderate use. Now with the new update I am lucky to last half a day without it going into Power Saving Mode, then about 2 hours later it will be in Extreme Power Saving Mode. Anyone else getting sh!tty battery life since the update?...
Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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At the risk of sounding like a noob.... Whats ART?
Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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How is asking if anyone is noticing decreased battery life after 1.58 any different from comparing battery life? Its the same thing.
I can guarantee that there are some people that have experienced worse battery life; and some have seen the same or better battery after 1.58 (as this has and will occur for any new OTA/RUU).
Not trying to be argumentative, but my point is whether folks have seen decreased battery life or not is somewhat irrelevant, and isn't going to solve your problem. Better to look into what processes are actually causing the drain, and go from there.
try booting into stock recovery and wiping cache partition...has helped some folks in past
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
CavyS said:
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
Moved to Q&A / Troubleshooting section.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
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Oh yeah, full charge yesterday, using it just as much as I normally would and when I plugged it before I went to be still had 86% battery life. Compared to being on 15% by 4 in the afternoon.
I've been using Greenify for some time with pleasure but not sure I'm doing it efficiently and my device and OS is getting and getting old every day and although I used a heavily debloated version of stock ROM (Simpl ROM) my battery seems to lack of performance lately. So I need a real deal instruction to get maximum efficiency since I don't want to change my phone. I'd really appreciate any help for fine tuning in Greenify.
Not: Note 4 with stock-based 6.0.1 Simpl ROM and Rooted with SuperSU. Also, I installed Space Lemon kernel.
hopelives said:
I've been using Greenify for some time with pleasure but not sure I'm doing it efficiently and my device and OS is getting and getting old every day and although I used a heavily debloated version of stock ROM (Simpl ROM) my battery seems to lack of performance lately. So I need a real deal instruction to get maximum efficiency since I don't want to change my phone. I'd really appreciate any help for fine tuning in Greenify.
Not: Note 4 with stock-based 6.0.1 Simpl ROM and Rooted with SuperSU. Also, I installed Space Lemon kernel.
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Everything gets old and dies including the battery in your device. Greenify will not save you from that fate. Nor will it substantially improve battery endurance on Android 6+ assuming your app portfolio is well behaved. Make sure 'doze on the go' is enabled in Greenify. The remaining knobs and dials will only yield minor benefits.
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Everything gets old and dies including the battery in your device. Greenify will not save you from that fate. Nor will it substantially improve battery endurance on Android 6+ assuming your app portfolio is well behaved. Make sure 'doze on the go' is enabled in Greenify. The remaining knobs and dials will only yield minor benefits.
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I'm totally aware of what you mean, thanks. Still, if you have something to add it would be appreciated. I like my phone and don't want to change it.
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I'm totally aware of what you mean, thanks. Still, if you have something to add it would be appreciated. I like my phone and don't want to change it.
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https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+4+Battery+Replacement/38111
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https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+4+Battery+Replacement/38111
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I have meant Greenify mate.
hopelives said:
I have meant Greenify mate.
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Of course; missed the point. . Seriously consider a new battery which is both economical and easy to install on your device. Greenify is not the answer in the absence of clear indication of app misbehavor.
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Of course; missed the point. . Seriously consider a new battery which is both economical and easy to install on your device. Greenify is not the answer in the absence of clear indication of app misbehavor.
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My battery is six months old. Do you think it's old enough to change?
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My battery is six months old. Do you think it's old enough to change?
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After market batteries are often not fresh and/or do not meet OEM specs. You should understand what is draining the battery before pursuing a replacement if a recent change made little/no difference. There are numerous XDA threads dedicated to this subject.
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After market batteries are often not fresh and/or do not meet OEM specs. You should understand what is draining the battery before pursuing a replacement if a recent change made little/no difference. There are numerous XDA threads dedicated to this subject.
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I had changed the battery twice during my usage period but I always bought it from the official Samsung service store. However, I decided to decrease the number of apps installed on my phone. After that, I try battery life again.