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This article mentions that data during phone calls will work on the EVO 3D, true or false?
http://www.mytechsecrets.com/htc-evo-3d-android-phone-–-coming-soon/
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Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Thanks for clearing that up
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aimbdd said:
Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Quote from the article---> "Will have simultaneous voice and data capabilities; while in 3G/4G or Wi-Fi coverage areas, the EVO 3D will allow web surfing while on the phone"
According to this quote the phone CAN do simultaneous voice and data on 3G. I have a buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. I'm hoping it can althought I didnt think it was possible for CDMA to do it on 3G.
The Thunder bolt does 3g/voice at the same time
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There may be hope for the E3D then
This is one of the reasons I'm excited about this phone. One of the articles I read a month or so ago had technical details on how it worked. It was some extension to CDMA or something along those lines. It's about time!
i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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Because it was all speculation but they just sent it to the fcc so now its confirmed
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This phone doesn't have those capabilities. Thunderbolt's LTE MDM9600 have SVDO support, while the EVO's MSM8660 doesn't. 4G/Wi-Fi only.
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buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. .
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
LOL
Thanks for the opinions. Im trying to decide on my purchase and don't want to be disappointed, never had a CDMA phone before.
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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I would absolutely love to hear how many units of the echo have been sold. Especially considering that they wasted money and time having that stupid "Industry First" event with David Blane.
Stunts like that are the reason why my friends think Sprint is crap
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
That is pretty disappointing. Shame on you Sprint. You would think that every carrier would have the function since AT&T used to brag so heavily about how the iphone could do it. I also read that only maybe half of the new EVOs UI will make use of the 3D effect. We'll know soon enough
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I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
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Not entirelly true there. They have some build out to do and more importantly our devices don't have the required chip to allow it.
see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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yankele said:
That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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Yeah.....my buddy is a true phone addict like I have never seen before. He gets a new phone like once a month!! He has soo many phones on his hip(active phones) it looks like a batman utility belt...lol. And for the first time ever in his life he is sorry about getting a phone.....the kyocera phone. I think it really "hit" him when he saw how much radio shack would give him for it when he trades it in for the evo 3d. The phone is only a couple of months old......paid a couple hundred for it and the trade in value is like 75 bucks or something. A true phone addict....all his money goes to sneakers.....phones.....phone accessories....and food. And occasionally child support....lol.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=8261
Sprint is primed for major network improvement it seems
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Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
Djspinister said:
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
So, looking to upgrade and kick Sprint to the curb after 12 years with Nextel, and Ting is looking like a really fine service as far as four line family plans go. I'm kicking around my HTC Hero, (CM7, gonna try ICS Beta for it's last huzzah.) and was looking for a more powerful Android. Was thinking about getting a feature phone or a mifi, and complementing it with a Galaxy Player. But the Photon looks really, really nice all of a sudden, with 4G and GSM compatibility. Toss in the best specs on a month-to-month phone that I've seen, I'm seriously considering dropping $550 on this thing. Please talk me out of it?
I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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^ Yeah, I know that. Kinda hoping that might be unblocked by the time I'm interested in it, if I want to jump to T-Mobile in the future. I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have.
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I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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talking about the awesome 1.2ghz cpu we have?
i sent them numerous emails about it :/ lady was real nice but kept claiming they had fixed it
Seriously? Probably should have caught that earlier with all the looking up I did on the phone.
Just get Ting are you in Canada?
Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
Experience with Ting thus far...
Hi all,
I recently changed carriers from AT&T (using Motorola Atrix 4G) to Ting (Motorola Photon 4G) and I have recently unlocked the bootloader (yes, I lost 4G connectivity), rooted, and installed the latest version of Rocko ROM with Alien Theme.
Everything has worked out so far and I am having a good experience with the device and with Ting Mobile, from their no wait phone service policy, to their dashboard web interface. I can't really speak to the relative degree of future proofing the Photon may have compared to other phones, I am just happy that I could get away from paying so much for a similar tier of service at AT&T and not necessarily have to compromise on a phone, though not being able to use GSM towers with a prepaid SIM card is a bummer, but otherwise, so far so good. Take care all.
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Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
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No phone is future proof the way things are flowing manufacturers are cracking phones out of their ass every 3 months or so. You have to look at the development threads that will tell you how active the phone is on the developers on xda are and that should give you an insight on how worth it is.
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Thanks all. Think I'm gonna go with the Optimus for now and wait for my laptop to start losing to the newer phones before I drop big money. Should kick the crap out of my Hero, and I'm happy if it can run Peggle and Netflix when it comes down to it. Thanks all.
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
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Thy are legit
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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Thy are legit
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what?? i'm not saying they aren't. i'm saying that it a waste of money, to pay them $6 a month plus whatever it costs to not have unlimited anything to have a phone, plus they're a sprint child company like boost mobile and virgin mobile, so your better off just staying with sprint to begin with
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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lol I was the one that told you that ;P
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/09/the-engadget-interview-sprint-product-execs-john-tudhope-and-da/
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/09/the-engadget-interview-sprint-product-execs-john-tudhope-and-da/
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Skip to 8:15 in interview.
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Figures the **** heads won't release it before the 3vo releases for Virgin Mobile
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"The way we think about it is it's good for Sprint..."
The way I think about it is **** you for sitting on that update.
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"The way we think about it is it's good for Sprint..."
The way I think about it is **** you for sitting on that update.
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IMO the swear filter is not necessary at all...
Also @OP: June is still better than July, or even worse, August...
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IMO the swear filter is not necessary at all...
Also @OP: June is still better than July, or even worse, August...
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Hey I'm just happy we r actually still getting it lol!
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Figures the **** heads won't release it before the 3vo releases for Virgin Mobile
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Well technically its at the same time with Virgin waiting till end of May lol.
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Expect a leak this month. I'm pretty damn sure we'll see one
Wonder what the bookmakers odds on this would be, 9-2?
They also didn't say what year.
Doesn't make any sense. Y does virgin get it first?? Sprint should have released it at least a month before virgin mobile.. at least I think so
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Doesn't make any sense. Y does virgin get it first?? Sprint should have released it at least a month before virgin mobile.. at least I think so
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Well, would you rather be a virgin with ICS or wait and not be a virgin but still have ICS?
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Well, would you rather be a virgin with ICS or wait and not be a virgin but still have ICS?
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That made me smile while reading it lol
Well well Sprint, you're giving "my" ICS update to an identical phone on one of your ****ty degraded networks before you give that update to me. Sprint, you're crazier than hell if you think I'm gonna shell out more cash for one of your LTE devices when I won't even be able to use LTE in the forseeable future (and be locked in for another 2 years)! David Owens, you sir are an idiot!
But all is well, because thanks to the great devs at XDA, I have my update already!
I'm right there with you, man. Sure, the EVO 4G LTE looks nice, aside from the multi-colored back. But it's biggest selling point, the LTE, won't be in my area for over a year. Makes no sense to go with a phone that gets slower network speeds when my 3D is suiting me perfectly fine with a WiMAX rich area.
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Well well Sprint, you're giving "my" ICS update to an identical phone on one of your ****ty degraded networks before you give that update to me. Sprint, you're crazier than hell if you think I'm gonna shell out more cash for one of your LTE devices when I won't even be able to use LTE in the forseeable future (and be locked in for another 2 years)! David Owens, you sir are an idiot!
But all is well, because thanks to the great devs at XDA, I have my update already!
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I'm with this guy.
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"The way we think about it is it's good for Sprint..."
The way I think about it is **** you for sitting on that update.
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my thoughts exactly.... how the **** is it good for us? the PRE PAID customers on CONTRACT get the middle finger in the end is what that says to me...
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Not worth the upgrade for me its still dual core phone wth lte my evo 3d is dual core the only differences it looks a lot better not worth it.ill wait for a quad core phone or maybe even the galaxy note if sprint gets it but in till then i have xda were there bad ass developers that gave me ics before ****ty ass sprint did
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Not worth the upgrade for me its still dual core phone wth lte my evo 3d is dual core the only differences it looks a lot better not worth it.ill wait for a quad core phone or maybe even the galaxy note if sprint gets it but in till then i have xda were there bad ass developers that gave me ics before ****ty ass sprint did
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I'm right there with you, man. Sure, the EVO 4G LTE looks nice, aside from the multi-colored back. But it's biggest selling point, the LTE, won't be in my area for over a year. Makes no sense to go with a phone that gets slower network speeds when my 3D is suiting me perfectly fine with a WiMAX rich area.
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both you guys are missing it completely....the phone is a HUGE upgrade over the 3D. no question about it. 10000x better Camera, and screen. The Chip in it is 10000000x better than the S3 snapdragon in the 3D too....
the only valid point against getting it is the one that if in a strong wimax covered area and you use wimax a lot currently...then and only then could you really justify not getting the LTE if $ wasn't the issue...
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Not worth the upgrade for me its still dual core phone wth lte my evo 3d is dual core the only differences it looks a lot better not worth it.ill wait for a quad core phone or maybe even the galaxy note if sprint gets it but in till then i have xda were there bad ass developers that gave me ics before ****ty ass sprint did
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I'm still sticking with the 3D lol. Also I figured Sprint would hold out on that update due to a new line of phones. So the folks who get a new phone will be drooling over new software . If they pushed the update beforehand people might not jump to a new phone nothin wrong with a new phone tho but ics been out for awhile for everyone else . More about makin money and selling stuff .
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**** everybody I just partially fixed my 3d and frankly I can't wait to get my new evo 4g lte in the mail in a couple of days. But in the 7 months i've been here it's been quite fun y'all better all be in the 4g lte forum
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im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
Physically? Bigger, lol... But if you mean public attention, no. I'm sure nothing ever will be since the EVO was the first 4G phone.
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im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
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Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
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Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
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LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
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LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
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You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
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You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
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Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
Wow, this thread isn't locked yet? In before it gets the hammer.
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Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
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Nope
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It will not be as big as the OG 4G. As stated above, it's not a game changer, and the same (very similar) device is available on most other carriers. Not to mention the fact that there is NO lte right now, and sprint's 3g is slower than AOL dial-up.
Hi. Just posting some non sense to release some anger I have towards Virgin Mobile right now.
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I think the Lte will be as big as the OG, mostly because of the "updated" camera HTC is throwing out there now...but I'm waiting til Dallas actually has LTE, which probably won't be long...
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I doubt it will be as big as the OG Evo. We're in a different time than we were 2 years ago. Sprint was the first carrier with 4G running on an Android OS. 3G was a lot faster then. Now you have the selling point of LTE..well LTE isn't even on in the test markets while other carriers are already up and running on LTE or something similar they call 4G while Sprint's 3G is sloooooooooow. I'm usually day 1 with flagship phones but not this time. I'll get one or the newest hotness once the LTE roadmap has my city on it.
Those thank yous were a mistake. Had to hide my phone I'm at work. I'm definitely getting the LTE no matter what.
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I don't think it will be as big. People were hyped about the EVO 4G, and now here a LOT of us sit, with our 2nd WiMAX capable phone..without ever being able to use WiMAX. There is no way people are gonna trust Sprint to deliver them LTE in their area during the time that they keep the phone...especially when other carriers are now offering much better 4G. Competition kills it..the EVO 4G had no competition.
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