I'm using it mainly for the auto text reflow but I'm missing some features from the original browser.
Is opera mobile also "hardware accelereated"?
MUST check boat browser mini. Best! Found it a few days ago. Solves desktop issue...some of other browsers don't.
Another browser based thread.
One thing we should keep in mind that Stock browser is the best out there. There is no real competitor out there. When Stock one is so good I don't find a reason to need for another. Well if you do need, then it is either Miren or Dolhpin-HD, but as I said no true competitor of Stock.
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I agree about stock browser...this one is not stock tho. Been tweaked by Samsung.
Take 10 graphic heavy sites and compare boat to stock.
Stock falters.
I'm not sure if Opera is faster, but it's very smooth and unlike the stock browser there is virtually no checkerboarding. I think I remember hearing that hardware acceleration is something that will come in the future, but I think that's more something to look forward to for people on slower devices because I don't really see how performance can improve on the SGS2. There are a few other issues with it though, like the dumbphone google sites instead of the HTML5 ones.
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I agree about stock browser...this one is not stock tho. Been tweaked by Samsung.
Take 10 graphic heavy sites and compare boat to stock.
Stock falters.
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Alright, I will try Boat and post back.
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Opera mobile is much faster but only coz you can run it in mobile view.tbf tho the stock browser is decent too!
Stock sux. I cannot download via FTP. I use firefox (extensions = adblock)
GO for dolphin HD... amazing features....
Overall the stock browser is unbeatable. But I use Opera sometimes on my Transformer because of the better Flash compatibility with some sites ... the downside is, that Opera's loading times are much slower, but scrolling is fast and smooth.
But on a phone, especially the S2, the stockbrowser is good enough for my taste ... I don't use it for long surfing sessions.
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Hi there guys,
I am new to Android and coming from a 3GS.
Really been looking forward to getting on Android and this was the phone I was waiting for.
There's a couple of issues I've noticed I'm really unsure about and seem odd.
- Scrolling (no live wallpaper) if I go to an email with a bunch of pictures, or an app such as tweetdeck, the scrolling on the Atrix is really poor. Not smooth, very blocky etc… I do the exact same thing on my 3GS and it's smooth as can be. Is this an Android issue? This seems really odd and annoying…
- Mobile browser rendering. For example I bring up Techcrunch, renders perfectly in my 3GS, in the Atrix the text is too small and poorly formatted (if I increase size it's too big), the page border goes off the screen etc.. I've tried Opera, not much better. Holding the same page side by side my 3GS is far more readable than my new Atrix. That is not making me happy…
Any ideas on this guys? I'll note I am new to Android so if you want to point me to a 'read this' for tips on Android that'd be understandable.
But I'm somewhat disappointed that for extremely common functions the usability *appears* to me (after 24hrs) inferior to my old iPhone…
Thanks for any pointers / insight…
I am coming from an iPhone 4 so I completely hear what you are saying. I had tried many Android devices in the past and always ended up back on iOS due to how Fluid it was in comparison. The Atrix / 2.2 still have some areas like that but overall I feel it is pretty smooth. The browser definitely leaves something to be desired (no pinch to zoom? Really?) but I'm diggin it so far!
Good to hear at least it's not just me! I'm somewhat surprised given the OS is reasonably mature that they've not nailed this yet...
Will be interesting to hear any other's thoughts on this...
(I spent many years on Windows Mobile, and had a love hate relationship with it, maybe a bit unfair to say this soon, but starting to already see some parallels: great OS, super powerful and customizable but still not nailed on the usability front...)
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I am coming from an iPhone 4 so I completely hear what you are saying. I had tried many Android devices in the past and always ended up back on iOS due to how Fluid it was in comparison. The Atrix / 2.2 still have some areas like that but overall I feel it is pretty smooth. The browser definitely leaves something to be desired (no pinch to zoom? Really?) but I'm diggin it so far!
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There is no pinch to zoom in mobile view of webpages. So if you go to cnn.com, its mobile page, m.cnn.com will come up and there will be no pinch to zoom. But at the bottom of the mobile page if you click on full site, the full site will come up and there you can use pinch to zoom. Hope this helps.
give dolphin browser a try, (will add pinch to zoom)
also try selecting "fit web page to screen" and that should take care of your issues as far as too wide goes. 2.3 is slated to release for this phone so patience maybe a virtue here.
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There is no pinch to zoom in mobile view of webpages. So if you go to cnn.com, its mobile page, m.cnn.com will come up and there will be no pinch to zoom. But at the bottom of the mobile page if you click on full site, the full site will come up and there you can use pinch to zoom. Hope this helps.
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I was about to say, i just pinched to zoom just fine haha
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I am coming from an iPhone 4 so I completely hear what you are saying. I had tried many Android devices in the past and always ended up back on iOS due to how Fluid it was in comparison. The Atrix / 2.2 still have some areas like that but overall I feel it is pretty smooth. The browser definitely leaves something to be desired (no pinch to zoom? Really?) but I'm diggin it so far!
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No pinch to zoom? You must be on a mobile site as they generally don't support pinch to zoom as they don't need it. Web sites certainly do pinch zoom very smoothly.
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There is no pinch to zoom in mobile view of webpages. So if you go to cnn.com, its mobile page, m.cnn.com will come up and there will be no pinch to zoom. But at the bottom of the mobile page if you click on full site, the full site will come up and there you can use pinch to zoom. Hope this helps.
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I tried full sites and they still did not pich to zoom.
I have gone to Firefox mobile, really like it so far.
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I tried full sites and they still did not pich to zoom.
I have gone to Firefox mobile, really like it so far.
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You're kidding right? This phone has full multitouch support, including the webkit browser. Go into google maps and try multitouch/pinch zooming there, if it still doesnt work then your phone is broken.. .or you're just "holding it wrong"
I do notice quite a few apps do not fit the screen. Some, off the top of my head are OnStar and Groupon. The default browser seems to be off as well, if you go to Adobe.com, it comes out all screwed up.
For the time being, I'm using Mobile FireFox. Even though you cannot get the Flash Player Add-On for it yet, at least the pages look somewhat decent.
for the iOS users having trouble with the browser, I highly suggest dolphin. Pages render nicely for me, pinch to zoom and overall fluid. The stock browser is good but it can be better.
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Hi there guys,
I am new to Android and coming from a 3GS.
Really been looking forward to getting on Android and this was the phone I was waiting for.
There's a couple of issues I've noticed I'm really unsure about and seem odd.
- Scrolling (no live wallpaper) if I go to an email with a bunch of pictures, or an app such as tweetdeck, the scrolling on the Atrix is really poor. Not smooth, very blocky etc… I do the exact same thing on my 3GS and it's smooth as can be. Is this an Android issue? This seems really odd and annoying…
- Mobile browser rendering. For example I bring up Techcrunch, renders perfectly in my 3GS, in the Atrix the text is too small and poorly formatted (if I increase size it's too big), the page border goes off the screen etc.. I've tried Opera, not much better. Holding the same page side by side my 3GS is far more readable than my new Atrix. That is not making me happy…
Any ideas on this guys? I'll note I am new to Android so if you want to point me to a 'read this' for tips on Android that'd be understandable.
But I'm somewhat disappointed that for extremely common functions the usability *appears* to me (after 24hrs) inferior to my old iPhone…
Thanks for any pointers / insight…
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IMHO, these are issues of Android OS, not necessarily the phone (emphasis on IMHO). Keep in mind, I had an iPhone 3G for 1.5 years and then a Nexus One for almost a year. I now have the Motorola Atrix. The scrolling is better on the Atrix than the N1, but still not like my iPhone 3G was on iOS 3.0. All the same applies to the web browser too. I do use Dolphin HD Browser, but at full zoom on a standard (non-mobile) page, the text looks "pixelated" on this Atrix.
I still really like this phone!
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I am coming from an iPhone 4 so I completely hear what you are saying. I had tried many Android devices in the past and always ended up back on iOS due to how Fluid it was in comparison. The Atrix / 2.2 still have some areas like that but overall I feel it is pretty smooth. The browser definitely leaves something to be desired (no pinch to zoom? Really?) but I'm diggin it so far!
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Get the HTC Inspire, smooth as butter. Looking like I made the right choice getting it instead of the Atrix, plus I saved $100.
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You're kidding right? This phone has full multitouch support, including the webkit browser. Go into google maps and try multitouch/pinch zooming there, if it still doesnt work then your phone is broken.. .or you're just "holding it wrong"
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Pinch to zoom worked fine for me in everything EXCEPT the browser. I tried a bunch of different websites and attempted to go to full version although that failed a bunch of times. Firefox mobile works flawlessly so I'd say problem solved for me. I also get sync which is nice anyway.
very impressive browser for those of you that wanna try something different. extremely stables good layout and fast!
I just switched to this as my default browser! If you asked me, its better than Dolphin!
I have been switching between dolphin mini and miren. Boat browser is by far the best so far. I like the UI
is that bloat browser you mean? :O
taken off market? o_o
edit: got it off amazon marketplace. woot. time to try lol
It's pretty nice, but honestly it's still the second-best. I was looking forward to a change, but Dolphin Mini has the speed dial home splash screen, smoother (higher frame-rate) scrolling, and it can remember passwords that Boat doesn't seem to want to. Maybe in future updates it'll compete, but until then, I'm sold on Dolphin Mini. Thanks for the heads up, though... Boat has potential!
Hands down good browser. I like how everything looks clean and simple
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Really nice! Kinda miuiesque. Thanks for the find!
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I've been using it the past three days and I love it. I tried to hold out for dolphin but it was giving me problems. Opera was slow. Miren was flaky. And then I found Boat and could not be happier. A+
Hi All
Googling around showed me that i'm not the only one seeing rather choppy web browsing experience. Zooming in and out, scrolling, etc.... Opera seems to eliminate some of those issues, but wouldn't you think this quad-core beast should perform better than an older dual core iPad2?
Whats your take?
Update: ICS didn't help the observation a bit...
P.S. -> i'm not complaining..its a solid machine otherwise, i'm just trying to see if the big-old collective mind of the internet generates a simple solution.
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Hi All
Googling around showed me that i'm not the only one seeing rather choppy web browsing experience. Zooming in and out, scrolling, etc.... Opera seems to eliminate some of those issues, but wouldn't you think this quad-core beast should perform better than an older dual core iPad2?
Whats your take?
Update: ICS didn't help the observation a bit...
P.S. -> i'm not complaining..its a solid machine otherwise, i'm just trying to see if the big-old collective mind of the internet generates a simple solution.
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Try Dolphin FTW. https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser
If I pay attention, I might notice that the stock browser isn't perfectly smooth. However, in terms of just using the thing, I'm finding it perfectly fine. I think Google could certainly tighten things up a bit, but it's nothing I'd feel the need to complain about.
Google plans on merging "Browser" with Chrome, so it will get better.
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Try Dolphin FTW. https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser
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Dolphin wasn't too much better...Opera was the most dramatic improvement for some reason.
What about Force 2D HW Rendering switch thingie under developer's options? Any ideas if that would improve anything? didn't seem to for me, but i'm not sure if it supposed to.
agreed
browsing is definitely choppy, noticed it switching from using my moms ipad for a week, also my homepage tarted bugging out about an hour ago,whenever i tiuched the menu icon in the lower right corner half the screen would turn black first then it would show the menu and as far as typing goes ipad>TFP ipad is wayyyyyy easier to type on also video quality is bettr on ipad, gaming is obviously better on TFP, TFP is seriously not all its cracked up to be
Any1 tried Naked Browser yet on your SGPs yet? Its a really fast and very lightweight browser. Almost a Dolphin Browser replacement.
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Yeah, I just tried it. Very smooth and fast. Just needs a better ui.
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I like the UI. The dev said that he would rather have a fast, fully functional browser then making it look good. I uninstalled Dolphin and using this for now on. It rates a 95/100 on the Acid3 test which is really good. I forgot what Dolphin got but to score that high all for a fast and lightweight browser, im impressed.
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Yeah, I just tried it. Very smooth and fast. Just needs a better ui.
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Agreed, very ugly
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Agreed, very ugly
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Well, all what I can say is that it is a very lightweight browser that loads pages pretty fast. Just throwing that out there.
I'd stick with Dolphin since UI kinda matters.. And well.. Dolphin is the best!
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I'd stick with Dolphin since UI kinda matters.. And well.. Dolphin is the best!
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Depends for what..i found maxthon browser the best for GB but opera is still far the best in mobile rendering of pages (when you read something text is always filling the screen)
Like i use chrome on nexus 7 but text is always to small and if i zoom i want see all text and on opera i zoom and no matter how much i zoom text reformats for reading so i find opera best browser for reading.
And for speed AOSP browser is fastest (but only awailable for cm9 and cm10 and derivates) and this naked browser is also very fast.
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I always go back to Dolphin Mini. I've tried a dozen others and they don't quite match.
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Careful, Dolphin, Maxthon, Boat, and many other browsers out there spy on you, wasting battery power, bandwidth, and CPU in the process. I made Naked Browser in response to these privacy violations. You can check it out here in the Google Play Store.
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Careful, Dolphin, Maxthon, Boat, and many other browsers out there spy on you, wasting battery power, bandwidth, and CPU in the process. I made Naked Browser in response to these privacy violations. You can check it out here in the Google Play Store.
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You have done great work. The concept is well founded. It was fast browser, but the interface made my eyes hurt. Soften the look and add tabs on top and I will am sold. On the other hand, privacy can always be a good idea, but the tracking done is mostly to enhance the experience. This is why Google results are still most likely to be correct for the user. If you are not doing anything wrong while browsing, then what is the worry?
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You have done great work. The concept is well founded. It was fast browser, but the interface made my eyes hurt. Soften the look and add tabs on top and I will am sold. On the other hand, privacy can always be a good idea, but the tracking done is mostly to enhance the experience. This is why Google results are still most likely to be correct for the user. If you are not doing anything wrong while browsing, then what is the worry?
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Thank you very much.
If you can explain what exactly was hurting your eyes, I can fix it. Naked Browser has been out for less than 2 months and I am working on it daily. What do you mean by "soften the look"? Please provide mockup screenshots if possible.
Tabs on the bottom is on my list for the paid "pro" version.
I disagree that the tracking done by Dolphin, Boat, Ninesky, Miren, and most of the Android browsers out there is meant to enhance your experience. "Enhanced experience" is what these rats are telling you and certainly what we'd like to believe, but it's obviously not the truth. Read Dolphin's privacy policy. They don't care about their users. The reason they ask for the "Phone state & identity" privilege isn't for your enhanced experience. It's to tie the data that they collect to your real world identity. Read the thread that I linked previously. They're sending your data to China, and beyond. They're selling you out, all these browser makers.
Spying wastes your battery power, bandwidth, and CPU cycles. But if you don't care about all of that and you don't care about your own privacy...what's the point?
You mention Google collecting data. They do BUT they are a large, established, public company that has a strong incentive to treat your data properly. Also, a browser maker is in a unique position to know basically everything you do on line. Google, Facebook, etc. can't pull this off just by you visiting their sites.
This message is for everyone who uses spying browsers made by incompetent people. You don't have to use Naked Browser but you shouldn't be using all the other crap out there.
The Web is still full of sites which use Flash which is why Adobe are still supporting Flash on Windows laptops and desktops for the forseeable future.
On Android there is excellant desktop support for Flash using premium browsers such as Dolphin, Skyfire, Boat etc. which provide the same Web experience on the Nexus 10 as using a Windows laptop or desktop.
However, because Apple does not support Flash then the iPad will never be able to use the Web as well as the Nexus 10 or a Windows laptop or desktop no matter how many apps there are to compensate.
Erm...okay?
so what's the question... xD
This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Sould I state my opinion with question marks? Hell, why not?
Which devices gives you the more complete browsing experience, the one that can display all pages and content, or the one that cannot?
You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
Neither will do it out of the box.Both do it with 3rd party apps.
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You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
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Yeah but Adobe had longer support for Android, so I'd imagine flash content is more stable even post-ICS.
Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
I don't care about flash
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Who cares if the iPad can't run Flash. Flash is being deprecated all over the web. I don't have any special love for Apple but you can credit the iPad's lack of Flash for most of the video sites offering HTML5 instead.
I haven't bothered to install Flash on my Nexus 10. Not missing it at all.
What gives you the most complete web experiance ? The the new surface rt lol. What is the point of this post it is pointless and only brings up android vs apple.
Some one please close this thread its people like this that give android a bad name.
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Can anyone confirm this for me as I have not got a ICS or later device (yet).
If a website has a menu structure where the user hovers the mouse to get the menu to pop up on desktop, if the root of the menu had a link in android you could never get into the menu structure because whenever you press to bring up the menu it actually redirects you to the page, whereas in iOS it does not do that and will bring up the menu.
That is one disadvantage I have with Android, if there is a fix that I am not aware of then yea inform me
Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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cdrshm
cdrshm said:
Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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cdrshm
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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Thats good news, thanks for the info!
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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No luck here either, would love to see one
drcujo said:
Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
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Good 2 know, thx