I'm way out on a limb right now checking out a few different things for v0.30. A lot has been learned with v0.20 and will be applied.
So my question is:
If I can find a way to eliminate Extended Rom and turn it into either Storage Memory or Program Memory (or both) which is preferred?
BTW, I've already been able to increase Storage Memory to over 60MB (See attached Image)...
kyphur said:
I'm way out on a limb right now checking out a few different things for v0.30. A lot has been learned with v0.20 and will be applied.
So my question is:
If I can find a way to eliminate Extended Rom and turn it into either Storage Memory or Program Memory (or both) which is preferred?
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Program memory is sufficient; go for Storage
Olipro said:
Program memory is sufficient; go for Storage
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I agree, I always run short on Storage and have enough program
Storage is the first to run low.. same as the above.
-mix
I don't agree with all of you Storage can be buyed but program memory is limited. Who knows the memory requirements in future WM6 programas.
My vote for program memory!
I'm with Viva. Low on storage? Move programs over to the card. Low on RAM? You're screwed. I say move it over to Program memory. That seems to be the most logical.
TaurusBullba said:
I'm with Viva. Low on storage? Move programs over to the card. Low on RAM? You're screwed. I say move it over to Program memory. That seems to be the most logical.
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Many are having problems running programs from Storage Card too, some think this is the root of some sleep lockups too. How many people ever runout of Program Memory? Maybe we should do that poll. I have a hard time keeping more tan 7MB free in storage., but I have at least 15-19MB free in Program.
Hi kyphur,
i think an additional 10mb of storage memory wont be sinifcant as the 60mb you have achieved in wm6 is suffice. if we need additional storage memory we have the sd cards to take care of it.
10mb of PROGRAM MEMORY is significant as we only have under 30mb free on a fresh hard reset and after a day of use this drops to about 24mb or less. the extra 10mb will allow us to run, well in my case, many apps with ample program memory and not worry about bogging down the system.
Therefore my vote goes to program memory.
But I have one concern with using ROM storage as program memory. RAM and ROM differ signifcantly in terms of technology and the ROM has much slower access rates than RAM. Would this have a signicant impact on performance?
Nonetheless, id still prefer it to be program memory.
Alot of programs run better from internal storage than from a storage card.
As already mentioned I havent run out of progam memory yet. But there again I have never run out of storage space either.
So my vote is for two thirds storage one third programs as apposed to half and half just to be different.
By the way keep up the good work kyphur, it is much appreciated.
kyphur said:
BTW, I've already been able to increase Storage Memory to over 60MB (See attached Image)...
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I suggest you max out that storage to see if it actually is valid or not.
Olipro said:
I suggest you max out that storage to see if it actually is valid or not.
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That is true too, if there are any doubts as to reliabilty, stability then go with storage as well.
50 - 50 Split for everyone.
I have an Ultra 1 Gb SD Memory card Fitted (Faster than std SD) and I have Not loaded any programs on the Phone. (Everything is on the SD) but I am starting to see that my Program memory is getting Low. So I would benefit from more program memory.
I don't know if the Ultra Card makes a difference but I have very few if any Lock ups / Freezes.
I do agree with most on max the storage to see how stable it is...., but I would like both. An option to do either on the fly would be even better.
kyphur, lots of thanks for the great Roms you're cooking and developing! one question though, if Extended Rom gets eliminated in the next version, then will there be some way left to make programs like theft alert survive hard resets?
no no... I mean fill the storage up completely and then soft-reset the PDA to see if it's actually *real* space.
Program seems to make the most sense to me
Program is a good idea so is storage so that is why i vote 50/50. I am running out of both of them anyway.
I know I can use an SD card but it is not the same. SD installed apps causes the device to lock up at times.
Thank's a lot kyphur.
I'm democratic so 50 & 50 but, how wrote Olipro, before real test.
Well,split it even might be logical as few apps need to be installed in phone memory for better performance...........
My vote will be to :: release 2 ROMs ,one with more program memory and one with more storage memory and the users will decide which one to vote ...(will it be too much work releasing 2 ROMs??,if yes then Program memory wins!!)
Kyphur,
if you build two different ROMS, one with maxxed out program memory and one with maxxed out storage id like to run SPB benchmark and post the results for a better polling result....
edit... i would like more storage but dont want to lessen the performance...
I'm using succulents cm10 ROM and have noticed in the task manager that the used and free memory only add up to 674mb. I have the 16gb NT, so shouldn't I have closer to 1024? Anyone else notice anything funky with their ram?
I'm on VERY thin ice here, but could it be that what's showing is total RAM minus what OS uses? That would make sense with CM10 using around 300 MB.
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I'm using succulents cm10 ROM and have noticed in the task manager that the used and free memory only add up to 674mb. I have the 16gb NT, so shouldn't I have closer to 1024? Anyone else notice anything funky with their ram?
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If you would have read other posts, you would understand that cm10 uses more ram and does not show all that is installed in the device. Use the search function before asking a question. It will help all of us
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Go to About Device - Device facts
and you should see that your available ram is only 1.xx MB (2.71GB) the important thing here is the MB. I was puzzed so i downloaded a seperate ram app, and indeed, the available ram should be 1.xx GB. could it be that this bug causes the phone to think that there is insufficiant ram, hence it keeps clearing ram, resulting in overheating?
Pretty sure that's how much is in use, because I have WAY more than 2gb of internal memory free....
dilema said:
Pretty sure that's how much is in use, because I have WAY more than 2gb of internal memory free....
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but technically speaking it is impossible for only 1.25MB(for example) of ram in use...the default xperia launcher already uses 60+MB lol.
I actually stumbled over this myself a week ago and thought what the hell. Just laughed it off.
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Come on, it's clearly just a typo!
Seems right
Mine says 2.21 of 2.71GB so I'm assuming I have 2.21 free. Still suffer overheat issue when taking photos.
2.71 is most likely the RAM available after OS?
My phone keeps whining about being low on discspace. Every time i delete an app i get an hour before it has eaten the new free memory.
Im now using 800mb and have only 80mb left og my 2gb. Im running pacman 4.3
As you can see in this picture (i.imgur.com/Q0ZZdUO.png) my phone's internal storage is about 11 GB, however the combined storage space of everything listed below is less than 6 GB. I know personally that I have not put much of anything onto the internal storage, so what does the phone think is taking up the other 5 GB, and how can I fix it?
I'm using this ROM btw:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440