Tenfar or clockwork? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am currently on kennethpenns 2.3.4 rom and wanting to go to cherryblur v1.4 and I installed clockwork and hears it will mess up and when I boot into recovery its boots clockwork .....do I have to install tenfar again to flash cherryblur? And is there a way to uninstall clockwork?
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michaelatrix said:
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Just download the tenfar CMW and use fastboot to flash it again
fastboot flash recovery (then use file name you downloaded)
Make sure the recovery.img is in the same directory as the fastboot.exe file. Makes it easier.

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You're welcome!
The tenfar recovery is better, it allows you to access the sd-ext and install zips from it. Whereas the clockwork one doesn't give you that option.

nate_benji said:
You're welcome!
The tenfar recovery is better, it allows you to access the sd-ext and install zips from it. Whereas the clockwork one doesn't give you that option.
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nate_benji said:
You're welcome!
The tenfar recovery is better, it allows you to access the sd-ext and install zips from it. Whereas the clockwork one doesn't give you that option.
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Agree, till koush fixes the cwm for attic, I'm gonna stick with tenfars recovery.
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tenfar works best so far...becareful when you flashing it to avoids brick

michaelatrix said:
I am currently on kennethpenns 2.3.4 rom and wanting to go to cherryblur v1.4 and I installed clockwork and hears it will mess up and when I boot into recovery its boots clockwork .....do I have to install tenfar again to flash cherryblur? And is there a way to uninstall clockwork?
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Post 59 has a Clockwork flashable zip that will load Telfars recovery. Save you some time and no need to mess with fastboot.

nate_benji said:
You're welcome!
The tenfar recovery is better, it allows you to access the sd-ext and install zips from it. Whereas the clockwork one doesn't give you that option.
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Gvndeb60 said:
Post 59 has a Clockwork flashable zip that will load Telfars recovery. Save you some time and no need to mess with fastboot.
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Sorry which thread is this zip file located in? I looked in the tenfar thread and its not that.
Also I assume you're saying that the zip can be installed FROM Khoulk safely?

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CWM not working

I rooted my phone. After that i downloaded rom manager and from rom mnger i went to flash clockworkmod then choosed vibrant. And then after it got installed i went to recovery reboot..then im on stock android recovery which is blue and its suppose to be green right?now thats my problem because i wnted to install my rom to axura. Any help please?
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crunkhead18 said:
I rooted my phone. After that i downloaded rom manager and from rom mnger i went to flash clockworkmod then choosed vibrant. And then after it got installed i went to recovery reboot..then im on stock android recovery which is blue and its suppose to be green right?now thats my problem because i wnted to install my rom to axura. Any help please?
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You have to select reinstall packages, and it will go to the blue recovery again, then press reinstall packages again and clockwork should boot up everytime.
So i just have to keep on reinstalling packages until cwm works?? I think i will lose my superuser etc.. What zip file do i have to put on my intrnal card?
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Once u are rooted you done need update.zip for root
What if i already rooted my phone using super one click root on my froyo 2.2? Do I still have to update? By update.zip?
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crunkhead18 said:
What if i already rooted my phone using super one click root on my froyo 2.2? Do I still have to update? By update.zip?
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After you used super one click root, delete that update.zip file that it places in your internal memory.
Then download rom manager, click flash clockwork-mod recovery and it should say boot into the blue recovery. In there click reinstall packages, and if it takes yiu to the blue screen again, click reinstall packages one more time and you should boot into clockwork from now on.
Ok thank you master and slave one more question do I still have to install the unzip thing from my internal sd? Or not a any more?
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One more question when I rebooted my phone using rom manager and I pressed reboot into recovery mode,it still takes me to the blue recovery,,which is to be green,,,i have to keep on repeating reinstll pcgkges? Until it becomes into a cwm recovery? I'm confused
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
Since you are on 2.2, you need the modified 3e recovery. Then you should be able to get into CWM.
Or you can just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 and Odin back to 2.1 and not have any issues updating your ROM.
Reading all the guides helps alot with these questions.
slivoman said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
Since you are on 2.2, you need the modified 3e recovery. Then you should be able to get into CWM.
Or you can just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 and Odin back to 2.1 and not have any issues updating your ROM.
Reading all the guides helps alot with these questions.
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The method I was giving you was for 2.1
Its easier to root from 2.1.
But the thread above should help
Another route around 3e recovery is to use a Voodoo kernel, because those have CWM baked right in. I recommend this because for whatever reason I couldn't get modded 3e recovery working.
Master&Slaveā„¢ said:
After you used super one click root, delete that update.zip file that it places in your internal memory.
Then download rom manager, click flash clockwork-mod recovery and it should say boot into the blue recovery. In there click reinstall packages, and if it takes yiu to the blue screen again, click reinstall packages one more time and you should boot into clockwork from now on.
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tried that but it still booting to the blue txt and the install tells me that it failed to verify whole- file signature. is there anything that i can try???
odin back to stock as people have said 2.1 is easier to root and then do as ur told with root and cwr!

Which is the best recovery?

Hi all,i am a newbie here..
I heard about amonra recovery and cwm recovery a lot..can anyone tell me which is the best recovery?i think cwm is using everywhere and all rom flashing tutorials describe this mainly.also it haas more options compared to amonra..sametime i read amonra works flawlessly compared to other.i am really confused..could u plz clarify this...
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Well it depends in what rom you are going to flash some rom supports amonra and some cwm. Both are good.
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ratheeshraj said:
Hi all,i am a newbie here..
I heard about amonra recovery and cwm recovery a lot..can anyone tell me which is the best recovery?i think cwm is using everywhere and all rom flashing tutorials describe this mainly.also it haas more options compared to amonra..sametime i read amonra works flawlessly compared to other.i am really confused..could u plz clarify this...
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both have their cons and pro but if u want to be with the updated recovery I would say clockwork but make sure the rom which u are flashing supports clockwork orelse u can easily try both by flashable zip here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 even clockowrk support flashing from rom manager and is much more advanced
Thnxx 4 ur reply.i am now having amonra in my p500.i am planning to switch to cwm.if i flash the cwm using rom manager,will it cause any problem?i think easiest way is rom manager or shud i flash the zip from sd card..i have seen in some othr post one guy got problem by flashing cwm over amonra..can anyone tell me the correct way of doing this?
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Flash it from recovery.
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ratheeshraj said:
Thnxx 4 ur reply.i am now having amonra in my p500.i am planning to switch to cwm.if i flash the cwm using rom manager,will it cause any problem?i think easiest way is rom manager or shud i flash the zip from sd card..i have seen in some othr post one guy got problem by flashing cwm over amonra..can anyone tell me the correct way of doing this?
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choose the flashable zip and flash from recovery as some had probs using rom manger but i installed it using rom manger and it went fine .still is uggest u o install from recovery to be safe
Thnx both of u..plz explain wht r d initial steps to do b4 flashing..?shud i wipe all ?wht abt delvic cache?
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First thing u do is take a backup.
Than wipe all for first time flashing.
Wipe dalvic cache and wipe cached when u switch between same rom. (Like upgrade).
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Thanks man.u r very helpful..
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Can i restore nandroid backup created through amonra after flashing cwm??
abhiroxx said:
Can i restore nandroid backup created through amonra after flashing cwm??
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No you can't.
shhbz said:
both have their cons and pro but if u want to be with the updated recovery I would say clockwork but make sure the rom which u are flashing supports clockwork orelse u can easily try both by flashable zip here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 even clockowrk support flashing from rom manager and is much more advanced
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Thanks for that link. I was able to use it to easily switch between AmonRa and ClockworkMod. It didn't work going from AmonRa 2.2.1 -> ClockworkMod 3.1.0.0, but I was able to go to 3.0.2.4, and back and forth from there. It is a lot easier to try different recoveries this way!
abhiroxx said:
Can i restore nandroid backup created through amonra after flashing cwm??
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For this you will have to switch to amonra again. And you can restore your back up.
Other way is to first switch to cwm on your desired rom. Then take a nandroid backup via cwm. Then for restoring you will not have to go to amonra.
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Does anyone know what the difference between CWM 3.0.2.4 and 3.1.0.0 is? I made a bunch of backups on 3.1.0.0, but it is easier to switch between 3.0.2.4 and AmonRa then it is to do the same for 3.1.0.0, so I was thinking of using those 2 (when I need to use 1 vs the other), but I wanted to be sure my backup will still work with the older CWM
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Does anyone know what the difference between CWM 3.0.2.4 and 3.1.0.0 is? I made a bunch of backups on 3.1.0.0, but it is easier to switch between 3.0.2.4 and AmonRa then it is to do the same for 3.1.0.0, so I was thinking of using those 2 (when I need to use 1 vs the other), but I wanted to be sure my backup will still work with the older CWM
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So you are saying,when we plan to switch frm amonra to cwn,first we have to flash cwm3.0.2.4 then flash cwm3.1.0.0 to work smoothly.
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ratheeshraj said:
So you are saying,when we plan to switch frm amonra to cwn,first we have to flash cwm3.0.2.4 then flash cwm3.1.0.0 to work smoothly.
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To be more specific, I'm saying that with the zips provided in the link, I got an error when trying to flash CWM 3.1.0.0 when running AmonRa 2.2.1. I was able to successfully reflash the 3.1.0.0 zip from a running CWM env, and was able to flash the 3.0.2.4 zip from AmonRa. So at least on my P509, I can't go directly from AmonRa->CWM 3.1.0.0 (vice versa works fine).
But yes, you can do:
AmonRa 2.2.1->CWM 3.0.2.4->CWM 3.1.0.0 using the zips provided
There is probably little reason for most to use both; play with them and choose one. For some of the stuff I'm working on, there are features of each I need though, so I've been going back and forth.
I flashed cwm 3.1 over amonra 2.2.1 without any problem.
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You can make your backup and flash your backup using cw it really simple.the backups take up a ton of space so you might want a bigger SD card. I keep one backup on my phone and I move the rest to my computer
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K.I flashed 3.0.2 then installed rom manager flashe3.1.0 using rom manager without any pro problem.
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Rom manager

Has rom manager been updated to wipe cache and data now? Or im I still better off with tenfars recovery? Thanks in advance.
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I would stick with tenfars recovery.
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CHUI2CH said:
Has rom manager been updated to wipe cache and data now? Or im I still better off with tenfars recovery? Thanks in advance.
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I was gonna post exact same question and then I saw you thread...
Any answers please?
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Stay with tenfars recovery.
The ROM Manager version is still not recognized an external sd card and can't data/factory reset. (from what written here).
Could I flash recovery with rom manager, then fast boot flash tenfars recovery to gain rom manager functionality
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CHUI2CH said:
Could I flash recovery with rom manager, then fast boot flash tenfars recovery to gain rom manager functionality
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No, you will get errors with backup and restore.
Is Tenfars recovery the whole package or are some parts borked like rom manager? And if so, what parts?
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all of tenfars options in the recovery menu work correctly, it does not have an app once the phone is fully booted though

Flash atrix recovery to photon in rom manager

Would this be possible since essentially they are the same recovery and almost identical hardwsre
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I did using this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16421425&postcount=95
*reflash "our cwm" after using ROM manager to flash the ATrix one.*
When using rom manager to back up it will always backup osh which takes forever....
The only useful thing I guess is you can boot to recovery with it. If it would not backup osh then it would be more useful for quick backup and renames.
Actually the use of this is full ext4. Im currently testing a true ext4 full rom with an ext4 recovery from atrix
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jokersax11 said:
Actually the use of this is full ext4. Im currently testing a true ext4 full rom with an ext4 recovery from atrix
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For the joker rom on photon?
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bearw815 said:
I did using this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16421425&postcount=95
*reflash "our cwm" after using ROM manager to flash the ATrix one.*
When using rom manager to back up it will always backup osh which takes forever....
The only useful thing I guess is you can boot to recovery with it. If it would not backup osh then it would be more useful for quick backup and renames.
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So u flashed the atrix recovery? Then from there flashed the photon recovery? I have no problems flashibg, i just dont have access to a conputer with fastboot. Accidently deleted my recovery this morning on the road lol
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bearw815 said:
I did using this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16421425&postcount=95
*reflash "our cwm" after using ROM manager to flash the ATrix one.*
When using rom manager to back up it will always backup osh which takes forever....
The only useful thing I guess is you can boot to recovery with it. If it would not backup osh then it would be more useful for quick backup and renames.
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You said to flash "our CWM" recovery. Did you flash Romracer's or Calkculin's CWM?
Thanks!
Romracers and yes from fastboot.
Here is the link to the flashable recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16654262

Installing recovery issues

I tried installing cwm with rom manager and when I attempt to boot into recovery I am at the android screen with a triangle. I then used rom manager to flash rom racers cwm and I thought it was successful but I got the same screen when booting into recovery. So I used goo manager to flash TWRP. Same issue when booting into recovery. I am unlocked and rooted. Any ideas on what I could be doing wrong?
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Here's an idea - stop using ROM manager!
How about you try flashing recovery using more traditional methods, like fastboot? That hardly ever fails.
ravilov said:
Here's an idea - stop using ROM manager!
How about you try flashing recovery using more traditional methods, like fastboot? That hardly ever fails.
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I'm was just following the directions in the thread for installing cwm. The directions are dated since this is an older device. That's why I asked the question. TWRP is the recovery of choice for me on my GS II.
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try this
dxwilliams40 said:
I'm was just following the directions in the thread for installing cwm. The directions are dated since this is an older device. That's why I asked the question. TWRP is the recovery of choice for me on my GS II.
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Did you delete (or backup) install-recovery.sh from /system/etc? If not, then that is most likely causing your problem. See the "Miscellaneous" section of this 2nd post from romracer's thread.

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