Hey guys i need desperate help sorry this is my first post and i have tried all night researching my issue before i figured i ask u guys i just purchased an unlocked european dell streak running 2.2.2 but for some reason cannot seem to get the mobile network to pick up telus it works when i put rogers sim card but would not locate telus even if manually searched it would only pickup rogers if any other info required ill b more than happy to provide and i really appreciate all the help thanks
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Telus is a CDMA network, like Verizon down in the US. The Streak is a GSM device and doesn't see CDMA networks. Thus you're limited to Rogers or other GSM networks.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Telus is a CDMA network, like Verizon down in the US. The Streak is a GSM device and doesn't see CDMA networks. Thus you're limited to Rogers or other GSM networks.
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I guess by now you know that CDMA and GSM are 2G, and both Telus and Rogers are on 3G (HSPA) now, and as long as the phone is unlocked, you can use it on each other's network.
I am using my Streak from Rogers on the Telus network, with full data access. What you need is the right APN setting, and the betwork selection set to Auto
OP: anyway you know if your phone can support 850/1900 HSPA network ?
Otherwise, the Rogers network you see is just GSM
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HSPA is a GSM standard, otherwise the Streak won't see the network. If that were not the case, then Streaks would function on Verizon and Sprint's networks in the States. Verizon and Sprint utilize EVDO for 3G, and LTE for 4G. Those are CDMA standards, and thus Streaks won't work on Verizon or Sprint. However, Bell and Telus have gone with dual networks, keeping CDMA support for older phones and utilizing HSPA for newer.
Apparently from your post Telus did get its HSPA network up and running. Good news, and my fault for doing improper research, as you note. Thanks for rubbing salt into the wound.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Thanks for rubbing salt into the wound.
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Haha ... no, not intention to correct you in public, just some clarifications.
It's all cool !
Just hope the OP can set it up ... perhaps check the Telus site for APN settings.
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Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD2 and gotten unlocked to work with my ATT sim card also I had someone install the 2.2 Froyo Android software using Cyanogen Mod 6. Since I had the phone I have only been using Edge network and I know for sure we have 3g coverage. How can I get my 3G network to work on my phone? Please help. I am a newb when it comes to cell phones.
Thanks
Matt
someone correct me if i am wrong but the 3g bands for att and t-mo are different so even if you have 3g coverage you would only get edge. For faster speeds youll have to use wifi.
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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jaekidd1012 said:
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
Thread moved in HD2 Android Development.
but this isn't hd2 android section
No 3G on the TMOus HD2 on ATT
mattp_65 said:
I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
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Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
Hope this helps...
Hi!
I was wondering if there is a way to change that? Installing a new ROM, a software or something!! I bought the TMo HD2 and brought it to South America. Here we use the 850 MHz frequency for 3G, and I just found out the HD2 works with 3G networks in the 1700 and 2100 MHz frequencies =( Is there a way I can change that ???
technillion said:
Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
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I checked and there is no T on my phone or cover. But I have cyanogen Mod 6, I was wondering if anyone else has this problem.
thanks
After CES, I'm beginning to put some serious thought into LTE and this phone. Dumping AT&T at this point is looking fairly good, as I've loathed their customer service for consistently soft-bricking my older phones due to their inability to properly unlock a phone.
How well does this phone handle roaming, especially in Japan, the UK and Australia? How compatible is the CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev. A. standard? I need to do a lot of travelling to these places and don't want to be short-changed. Does this support UMTS 2100 or international 4G? I plan to use the "buy a prepaid SIM" method.
Or should I be carrying around my unlocked Captivate for roaming?
If you want traveling to Western Europe (like in UK), forget it because GSM rules there. Just notice that the GSM represent 80% of mobile phone market but there is a website you can find the CDMA coverage in the world:
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/
EDIT: About the 4G, a very very very few countries have it but it can be HSPA+ or WIMAX instead of LTE.
Another website for GSM coverage: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
So, what you're saying is basically: Tote around the Captivate if I'm going to Europe, use the Thunderbolt for Japan?
In short answer, Yes
But you can't use the 4G Lte in Japon because it doesn't exist (yet).
Anyway, there is one carrier available which support the CDMA in Japan according to the website.
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Fightspit said:
In short answer, Yes
But you can't use the 4G Lte in Japon because it doesn't exist (yet).
Anyway, there is one carrier available which support the CDMA in Japan according to the website.
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I do know that KDDI supports CDMA2000 and 1xEV-DO Rev. A on the right bands in Japan, so I'm hoping that it's enough. I don't need data roaming that badly, and if its service is comparable to Verizon's EV-DO service, it's good enough.
If youre gonna roam, bring along the captivate.
Or, you can get the droid 2 global, but there's no lte in there lol
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A_Flying_Fox said:
If youre gonna roam, bring along the captivate.
Or, you can get the droid 2 global, but there's no lte in there lol
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Sir,
I want to buy Galaxy SII duos. It works with CDMA2000. However, I used to go to Hong Kong. I want to use 3G (i.e. WCDMA). Can I root the ROM so that it can works with WCDMA?
I am thinking of switching to Straightalk $45 unlimited everything plan for my Vibrant (unlocked and rooted). I am wondering if anyone here is using Straightalk on Vibrant. I hear people talking about
‘Straight talk Tmobile sim’ and
‘Straighttalk AT&T sim’.
This might be a dumb questions but What is the difference between the two? Do I have to request a ‘Straight talk Tmobile sim’ in order for it to work with my Vibrant. Will I get 3G speeds and not edge? I also hear that MMS don’t work but I m not too concerned with those since I don’t use many.
I would love to hear from any straighttalk users on Vibrant!!
Thanks
Straight talk is an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator). They use different carriers. You need to specify which carrier sim you need per your device in order to get 3g data speeds.
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samsgun357 said:
Straight talk is an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator). They use different carriers. You need to specify which carrier sim you need per your device in order to get 3g data speeds.
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So I need to tell them I need Tmobile compatible sim for me to get 3g on my vibrant?
You can get either t-mobile or at&t sim. They both will get 3g on vibrant. Vibrant has att 3g combatiable bands. Go with the compant that provides better coverage in your area.
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You can get either t-mobile or at&t sim. They both will get 3g on vibrant. Vibrant has att 3g combatiable bands. Go with the compant that provides better coverage in your area.
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Thanks. Its good to know that Vibrant gets 3g on either ST ATT & ST Tmobile sim.
I would double check that AT&T is using bands for 3g service that are compatible with vibrant. I know that the AT&T captivate doesnt work on T-Mobile 3g service.
What you don't know could fill a book.
I got a unlocked rogers streak but on whatever Rom I use I can't get 3g which it has the right bands I only get edge and the only way I can get cell service to work in the first place is if I put it as "gsm only" wcdma only or gsm/wcdma will not pick up any service anyone can help!!!???
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Sounds like you have an AWS Streak, which will never get 3G on Straight Talk due to hardware differences in the radio.
Yeah I know of the aws streak but I know rogers uses att bands
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If you're on Straight Talk you need to set up the APN (Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Network > Access Point Names) before the service will work correctly. You should have the APN info already, but if not it's on Straight Talk's website.
Done did that to and only edge and will only pick up anytype of cell service if I have GSM only picked
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My Streak is an unlocked unit that came direct from Dell. Devices that came straight from Dell were configured to use AT&T as their carrier, since AT&T is the largest GSM carrier in the country. While the unlocked Streaks could be used on T-Mobile, they never would get 3G/HSPA+ speeds on that network, because the radio frequencies T-Mobile uses are slightly different from AT&T. Dell did produce, in limited numbers, a Dell Streak compatible with T-Mobile frequencies. We refer to this type of Streak as the AWS Streak. Using an AWS Streak on AT&T would produce the same result as using a regular Streak on T-Mobile: 2G (EDGE) speeds and no better.
Straight Talk is an AT&T MVNO. They purchase signal from AT&T for use with their own lineup of phones as well as "Bring Your Own Device" plans. My unlocked Streak works perfectly on Straight Talk's service, with HSPA+ speeds. If it were an AWS Streak I had and I were to use it on Straight Talk, I would do no better than 2G (EDGE) speeds.
Since your Streak does not get 3G/HSPA+ on Straight Talk, your Streak must be an AWS Streak.
That's eerie because I got it from a guy in Canada that got it from Rogers which has the same bands as att
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The only other explanation would be that your Streak's radio is defective, but I don't see that here. The one other thing to keep in mind is Rogers HSPA is on a separate network from their 2G service, unlike AT&T. That HSPA service could be running on the T-Mobile frequencies, which would be in keeping with Rogers' claims on their page for the Streak of it being capable of HSPA on their network, yet consistent with both your observations as well as the guy in Canada you got the Streak from.
Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
zilla. said:
Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
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What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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brandonarev said:
What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
zilla. said:
The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
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I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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Pirateghost said:
I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier that is tied to the SIM card?
If not can the radios (?) specifically select towers?
zilla. said:
If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Not if the phone doesn't have the hardware to support those specific bands.
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Thank you for the insight. I will call to confirm.
some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
mokokawi said:
some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
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thanks for this insightful post that has ZERO to do with the i777.....
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Sorry for bringing this up again, I was looking at the specs of the SGH-I777 (ATT's SGS2) vs SGH-T989 (T-Mobile's SGS2). It looks like both of the phones use the same bands except T-Mobile is capable of one more: WCDMA 2100. Is this the band that T-Mobile transmits it's 3G over? Otherwise they look almost identical.
Attached screenshot of comparison: http://imgur.com/8OQXftD
T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
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T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
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Oh of course. I glanced over that way too fast. Thanks.