Just trying to figure out what fake blur xmpp 2.3.4 is for. Any ideas?
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I see it too. No idea
well isn't that interesting?
Freeze ut and let us know what happens
I just froze it and nothing substantial happened. I never noticed it until I flashed a new ROM. Even when I restored my backup of stock it was still there and I noticed my system ROM amount went down. I'm skeptical to backup and uninstall and see if my original amount of system ROM is returned though...
lexx210 said:
I just froze it and nothing substantial happened. I never noticed it until I flashed a new ROM. Even when I restored my backup of stock it was still there and I noticed my system ROM amount went down. I'm skeptical to backup and uninstall and see if my original amount of system ROM is returned though...
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I don't think it would have had anything to do with your system ROM changing size.
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I don't think it would have had anything to do with your system ROM changing size.
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Well I mean it used some of my system ROM up, not changing size.
coldfusionb said:
Just trying to figure out what fake blur xmpp 2.3.4 is for. Any ideas?
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Probably just part of the MB infection used to kill Vanilla...
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XMPP = Jabber
bimjunk said:
XMPP = Jabber
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I'd guess it's some kind of monitoring or notification service that Moto uses as part of BLUR. I remember Sanjay Jha giving a talk about how Blur is the end-all and be-all of everything. It can enable better battery life, tell Moto what apps are consuming cycles, some other stuff.
Dr. Jha said, "MotoBlur allows us to know, with precision, what battery life you're seeing," before suggesting that future phones could warn you about power draining apps and bandwidth hogs. What wasn't clear though, was if he was talking about the existing Android battery manager or if Motorola has been collecting usage data -- since we never opted-in to such a program, we're really hoping it's the former.
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- From Engadget.
CarrierIQ
Thought it might be worth bumping this thread in light of the breaking news about CarrierIQ rootkits that are monitoring activity on more than 150 million Android phones. On my Atrix, the icon for Fake Blur and several other strange services looks like a "Ci". Carrier IQ?
sounder said:
Thought it might be worth bumping this thread in light of the breaking news about CarrierIQ rootkits that are monitoring activity on more than 150 million Android phones. On my Atrix, the icon for Fake Blur and several other strange services looks like a "Ci". Carrier IQ?
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1. I ran the CIQ scanner app thingy that that dude developed (too lazy to look it up). It didn't find any of the Carrier IQ logs.
2. Motorola isn't some half-baked development shack. They have been making military-grade encryption and security stuff for years. I think if they wanted to add backdoor monitoring to Blur they would do it themselves, not contract it out to some other half-baked developer.
stewartsoda said:
1. I ran the CIQ scanner app thingy that that dude developed (too lazy to look it up). It didn't find any of the Carrier IQ logs.
2. Motorola isn't some half-baked development shack. They have been making military-grade encryption and security stuff for years. I think if they wanted to add backdoor monitoring to Blur they would do it themselves, not contract it out to some other half-baked developer.
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They use it in the atrix2 so...
crnkoj said:
They use it in the atrix2 so...
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And your point is? I ran the scanner, nothing showed up. I searched logcat, nothing showed up.
Atrix 2 != Atrix 4G
EDIT - I see you were taking issue with my second point. I will concede that Moto might indeed contract this out.
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They use it in the atrix2 so...
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Do you know the process names for the Caller IQ services on the Atrix2?
Someone brought up that renaming this file stopped sleep of deaths. Tying in to what people have had SoD, perhaps it relates to the radio or wifi/data?
I read somewhere that was the carrier iq program. I froze it and have had no issues
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I just got my AT&T Xperia X10 and want to root it, mainly to get rid of the AT&T apps they shove on by default and I can't rid of. What is the best method?
I can't give you the links I looked at as I'm new on this forum and they don't allow new users to post outside links. I looked at a link titled:
"Exploid One Click .apk Root (Latest v.1.06 12 Aug. 2010)" (this forum)
...and another one titled:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
My phone has build number R2CA016 on it, I assume there's no loss of functionality by going to a slightly older build? FYI, my model is X10A.
Thanks.
In my experience, keeping the AT&T build is the better option. My battery life is much better and the phone performs better with no stability issues.
I tried the long method first. I had some issues with the battery barely lasting a day and the device rebooting randomly. It also seemed to get much hotter when using it.
I also tried a few of the decrypted X10a ROMS like Rogers and Latin America Generic. They also exhibited lower battery life and the Latin version had some random reboots.
I went back to the stock AT&T ROM, rooted, removed all the AT&T crapware, and re-enabled the non-market apps option. The phone has been amazingly stable and the battery will last me two days.
Additionally, I found Handcent and ADW both reduced my battery life significantly so I am not using either of those on my phone now. I also remove ALL the AT&T apps including the Exchange app.
Slow down, I'm still getting to grips with this phone!
Right now the battery lasts just over one day, so I'm trying to figure out what apps are running in the background so I can axe anything un-necessary. When you say the "long method", do you mean the procedure in this forum called "Exploid One Click", or the one in the Xperax10.net forum?
Can I save the stock ROM that's installed, so I can go back to it if I want? I just want to remove the garbage-ware to be honest, I don't use Facebook, Youtube, Timescape or all the other apps AT&T puts on. Can you give me a procedure for what you did? Sticking to the AT&T ROM sounds like a good idea, I just want to remove the AT&T apps. FYI, I need an app that let's me connect to MS Exchange.
aln688 said:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
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Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
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Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
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I'm alright using any of the methods, especially with command prompts, I just wasn't sure if my phone being AT&T would cause a problem. The goal is to wipe the AT&T apps off and just put on what I need.
So far as ROMs, is there any in particular I should be looking at? Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
I also want a Wi-Fi app that can connect to hidden networks. The default app on my phone works, but when you move away from the network and come back, it no longer sees it. So I'll be looking for a new app for Wi-Fi connections.
Thanks.
I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
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Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
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Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
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Yes, use the one-click to root. Then you need to install a root file explorer to remove the apk files in the \data\app-private directory. Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically. If you don't understand what I am saying you can send me a private message and I'll help you through it.
There is one particular apk that you do not want to remove if you need Exchange support. That apk is com.nitrodesk.sony.nitroid.apk
To re-enable non-market apps, look for the non-market app thread under the Samsung Captivate on this forum. The only difference is that on our phone, the settings.db file is in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db. You will need to use that in the place of the directory for the Captivate settings.db
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I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
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I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
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Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically.
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Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
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Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
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Except on the AT&T ROM it reinstall them all.
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I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
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Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
Alright, I'll try the one-click method then. Do you recommend a root file explorer, naplesbill?
Nimche said:
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
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If I could figure out how to get my original AT&T ROM off of my phone, you could have that!
aln688 said:
Alright, I'll try the one-click method
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It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
Diesel984 said:
It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
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So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
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So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
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Install the APP and let us know.
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
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Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
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No worries. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was offended. I wasn't offended at all.
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naplesbill said:
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
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AT&T Wont allow Side Loading without root access...I Tried that one earlier this morning, and it didnt work either.
The Root tutorial that has been mentioned seems to be the best method, Although I've gotten up to the Part where it says that under the model number on the phone it should Show X10a (which mine does) Yet, apparently Im missing something because I have no Root access...SO, Hopefully, If this Rapidshare download finishes this year, I'll get back to trying it again...Could just be that I missed something in the steps...I dunno LOL!
When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
Still unavailable, unless you want a extremely unstable and slow rom, best bet right now is to flash gingerblur
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jimbojones69 said:
When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
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Be ready as soon as you get it done!
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
jimbojones69 said:
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If you build it they will come. Otherwise get a different device or quit crying and ride it out.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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It definately does not de-blur. Its just themed as aosp but the rest of blur is still there. Its goal is to become de-blurred but were far from that. Id say a few more weeks/ month or two.
I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
Sent from my ATRIX running CherryBlur 1.2
http://www.expansys.com/motorola-atrix-207852/
Seems the SIM Free version is out in the UK. Does anyone own one and can get the Gingerbread rom for it? I'd like to have the atrix without the AT&T crap, but keep Motoblur... I'm from the UK so it would also be nice to have all the UK customisations and not US ones (e.g telephone no. spacing, en-GB language etc.)
One of the great things about open source is the hobbyist/developer side bringing us great enhancements and functionality for cheap or free. Then you have the ungrateful users like this are experts at *****ing, whining and demanding but not smart enough to go buy something like the nexus s or a phone that has had its bootloader unlocked more than a month and some development under its belt for awhile.
I voided my warranty.
jimbojones69 said:
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If you want it that bad, then grab the lower spec Motorola Milestone. If you need one with an 850 3G Band, then get the Telus Motorola Milestone.
Ironically I know someone who went from the Atrix to the Milestone for this purpose alone, and they are actually happier because of no Motoblur.
Then again if I didn't have my SGS, I might have entertained the idea of going back myself since I truly hate Motoblur as well... (my Atrix is sitting on the sidelines waiting for official CM7 or Vanilla)
Obscene Topiary said:
I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
Sent from my ATRIX running CherryBlur 1.2
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IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
+1
I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
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IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
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live4nyy said:
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I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
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Exactly!
It blows my mind on how many people (even on other XDA boards) still suggest using 3rd party task killers.
There's no reason, especially with the Atrix, to use them anymore...
I just got my phone and most of the time when receiving a email I'll pull down the menu and it keeps going back up automatically. After trying like 3 times it finally stays down. Does anyone else has this issue?
Not to insult your intelligence or anything but are you pulling the bar all the way down? When I was on GB if I didn't pull it all the way down it'd wonk out on me and shoot back up if I did it too fast.
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I had the same issue on GB. I head to drag it almost all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Now on ICS I can just flick the bar downwards and it does the rest.
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ChocolateSnow said:
Not to insult your intelligence or anything but are you pulling the bar all the way down? When I was on GB if I didn't pull it all the way down it'd wonk out on me and shoot back up if I did it too fast.
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Yes I pull it all the way down like 3 times then if lucky it will stay down. After reading emails the pull down menu works fine.The work arounds I found is to put my finger at the top of screen and quickly flick downward then it will stay. With my old phone using it's default rom and Cyanogenmod 7, this never happend. The second work around is to use a small app called, One Click Status Bar. Place it on the home screen and when it's tapped the menu drops down.
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I had the same issue on GB. I head to drag it almost all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Now on ICS I can just flick the bar downwards and it does the rest.
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I flash around a lot usually spending about a couple weeks on different Roms to test and compare features and I can say I never had a problem with Google play ever recognizing any of my paid apps.
The force closes on the other hand do happen, but very rarely if you run a good rom, and don't do anything you're not supposed to
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gods_archangel said:
Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I respect your opinion, but I've been flashing custom roms for quite a while and have never had problems with market /playstore not recognizing or not letting me install unless of course I modified the DPI or something. Andbim afraid I don't know what u mean by paid apps disappearing.
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gods_archangel said:
Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I'm rooted and running ics. I have yet to experience any of that. No fc's and no disappearing paid apps
Phalanx7621 said:
I respect your opinion, but I've been flashing custom roms for quite a while and have never had problems with market /playstore not recognizing or not letting me install unless of course I modified the DPI or something. Andbim afraid I don't know what u mean by paid apps disappearing.
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When a phone is rooted the Google server no longer knows what device is being used. You can check this out by logging into Google wallet and look under your device list. You'll also notice that some apps show up for different os like with gingerbread and some don't for ics. After rooting the server doesn't know what apps work with the phone and at times makes some of your paid apps disappear and preventing potential future downloads.
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When a phone is rooted the Google server no longer knows what device is being used. You can check this out by logging into Google wallet and look under your device list. You'll also notice that some apps show up for different os like with gingerbread and some don't for ics. After rooting the server doesn't know what apps work with the phone and at times makes some of your paid apps disappear and preventing potential future downloads.
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Wrong. Learn android before trying to tell something to those that know.
want proof of one. heres my screenshot in the attachment. I've never ran a stock phone. ever.
Not sure why its so small :/
BROKKANIC said:
I'm rooted and running ics. I have yet to experience any of that. No fc's and no disappearing paid apps
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I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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you sir, have issues that most do not. your obviously not capable of using this site.
i have never had an issue with market that I did not cause. FC's are casued by apps not meant for your device or the ROM your running.
You want to argue with people that flash **** almost daily? go call google again, and quit wasting space in our forums
O and if your on stock, what did you expect to get for help by posting an issue with a stock ROM?
Call samsung
MotoMudder77 said:
Wrong. Learn android before trying to tell something to those that know.
want proof of one. heres my screenshot in the attachment. I've never ran a stock phone. ever.
Not sure why its so small :/
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No need to be rude. Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean no one will besides I'll have you know that I installed many roms and no android. Thank you!!!
gods_archangel said:
No need to be rude. Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean no one will besides I'll have you know that I installed many roms and no android. Thank you!!!
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I was not being rude, you are being incompetent.
4 million members on this site, you really think that rooting a phone breaks ****?
MotoMudder77 said:
you sir, have issues that most do not. your obviously not capable of using this site.
i have never had an issue with market that I did not cause. FC's are casued by apps not meant for your device or the ROM your running.
You want to argue with people that flash **** almost daily? go call google again, and quit wasting space in our forums
O and if your on stock, what did you expect to get for help by posting an issue with a stock ROM?
Call samsung
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Who's having a argument, were just talking. You didn't have to answer my post and you can simply leave.
MotoMudder77 said:
I was not being rude, you are being incompetent.
4 million members on this site, you really think that rooting a phone breaks ****?
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Why call me the word incompetent? You can drop the words (was not) and use, wasn't.
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Why call me the word incompetent? You can drop the words (was not) and use, wasn't.
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Very true, I apologize. But you must realize that this site EXISTS for the simple idea that we, the members of it(evidently not all of them), do not want our phones stock.
The only support you'll get from a stock ROM, is from the at&t store.
and the "was not" was meant that way. I feel its a stronger form of the word rather than wasn't
This discussion got troublesome and way, way off topic.
But the bottom line is man, if you want to stay stock, there's really nothing we can do, other than advise to wipe data/factory reset via 3e recovery.
What you may have thought you knew about issues that come by rooting your phone, are maybe 1 in a 100, and most likely caused by the person themselves.
There are a few ROM's that are based on at&t "official" leaks. but there rooted.
gods_archangel said:
I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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I think you may be confusing some of your facts. That may hold true for some unbranded chinese tablets running ICS. Those ROMs have to operate as a brand name "something else" just to get market to recognize the device.
The same is not true with our phones. Root away! The issues you're concerned about do not exist on name brand android devices.
Iincludes easter eggs, videos to show to people to show off screen, certain apps, anything.
I found out I can make calls
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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wpsantennas said:
Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
adrynalyne said:
Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
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Wtf my doesnt do this
"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall."
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Glad to see you got one.
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hajabooja said:
Glad to see you got one.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
...it can be a great ping pong paddle
adrynalyne said:
It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
Cdoan34 said:
i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
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Possibly
It's very very light....I forget I have it in my pocket sometimes, and its apparently really water resistant. I spilled on myself, while it was in my pocket T_T
Just got mine today and I already lrn'd2root
Not only does mine make calls.... but people can actually dial a special number and call me!!!
Most people don't seem to be all that impressed by it, but these are non tech lovers. They look at it and are like "oh. . . it's pretty". I don't think there is anything I could show them on the screen that would impress them much.
adrynalyne said:
It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Keep it adryn!!!! pu pu please! we need all the dev love we can get!!! I for one will appreciate havign you around. But should you leave please drop a hint as to where you'll be headed
some cool things I have found out,
it may be old news for you, and some were mentioned in tech blog space before
1. during my call, i turned the phone face down and it automatically turn to speaker. which was mentioned by engadget and ac, but see it working and give convenience, it is a good fun.
2. go to settings->apps-> all, I can actually disable quite a number of pre-installed bloats, without root or any other hacks. this is awesome. for example, amazon, viewnidi, vz navigator, vz backup plus all those bs, i can disable them, without worrying that if it will fc later or cause trouble =).
oh, disabling those stuff can give me much lower memory usage, and improve battery life because many of them are running at the background.
Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
paulguy said:
Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
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Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
Honestly Youtube has to be the most impressive thing you can show anyone... the HD quality over 4g is simply great and then they try to load the same video on their apple crap and it looks like 8 bit mario... just make sure its a newer video from within the last year or so or the quality will be horrid.
mainly because everyone has that app and can compare side by side... and be like wow
geoff5093 said:
Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
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That's when you may run into problem.
Having root access and do stuff like that, will give unexpected drags in some apps which will affect your battery life or other functions.
For example if some functions or apps are providing system level service to others, and unfortunately if some applications uses them.. and you frozed them... then it is totally depending on the app developers' handling in such case.
either kept polling , or throwing exceptions, FCs etc.
adrynalyne said:
It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Them sound like fightin words
So I got the updated my TMobile app update yesterday and looked at the new device health option, check wakelocks today, and wouldnt you know it, carrier iq is now back on. Sneaky TMo.....sneaky.
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So I got the updated my TMobile app update yesterday and looked at the new device health option, check wakelocks today, and wouldnt you know it, carrier iq is now back on. Sneaky TMo.....sneaky.
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haha sucks but you know you can just delete that app
That's odd. I updated the app any my CIQ is still unchecked.
Semantics said:
That's odd. I updated the app any my CIQ is still unchecked.
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the new update causes a service to run in the back ground that is over 100MB
Semantics said:
That's odd. I updated the app any my CIQ is still unchecked.
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You have to enable the device health functionality , and yes tmo is getting sneaky.
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zPacKRat said:
You have to enable the device health functionality , and yes tmo is getting sneaky.
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So I went to device functionality, and it presented me with a screen that said collect diagnostics and had a check box. Doesn't seem sneaky to me when they present you with the option to opt right out when you click on device health. /shrug
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mikea3000 said:
the new update causes a service to run in the back ground that is over 100MB
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Strange, I have no service running either. Oh well.
Semantics said:
So I went to device functionality, and it presented me with a screen that said collect diagnostics and had a check box. Doesn't seem sneaky to me when they present you with the option to opt right out when you click on device health. /shrug
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Strange, I have no service running either. Oh well.
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the fact that CIQ is labled not as such is sneaky, it wastes battery along with the privacy issues that most people who understand what the app does.
I turned it off through that special menu right after I got the phone, and it still shows as off in the updated T-Mobile My Account.
there's an app in the store called disable service. this isnt like other apps that run in the background to disable apps from starting, this doesnt run in the background. it changes values in services running on your phone so that they dont start up when you reboot. so go into the app and swipe to system apps. then click on android system. if you see iqservice with a check mark in it then it is really not disabled on your phone. uncheck iqservice then reboot your phone. now it is really disabled.
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the fact that CIQ is labled not as such is sneaky, it wastes battery along with the privacy issues that most people who understand what the app does.
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I know what it is. I also know that having one of the only variants with the option to turn it off and not have it baked into the stock ROM pretty much means it's not sneaky. Don't let me rain on your paranoia parade, though. CIQ has been on every carrier for years. T-Mobile lets you opt out without root or having to flash a ROM. Sneaky indeed.
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I know what it is. I also know that having one of the only variants with the option to turn it off and not have it baked into the stock ROM pretty much means it's not sneaky. Don't let me rain on your paranoia parade, though. CIQ has been on every carrier for years. T-Mobile lets you opt out without root or having to flash a ROM. Sneaky indeed.
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Not sure what your problem is, it seems that you are the authoritative answer around this post [sarcasm\]. And while being able to disable it is nice, it's a known battery hog, has been proven to capture you keystrokes. I don't know, maybe it's better these days, however this is a matter of fool me once. And I'm not paranoid, I just prefer my privacy, period! And BTW, while we can disable it it is part of the base ROM, as it's in system. Now please loose the attitude, it's not needed around here.
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Not sure what your problem is, it seems that you are the authoritative answer around this post [sarcasm\]. And while being able to disable it is nice, it's a known battery hog, has been proven to capture you keystrokes. I don't know, maybe it's better these days, however this is a matter of fool me once. And I'm not paranoid, I just prefer my privacy, period! And BTW, while we can disable it it is part of the base ROM, as it's in system. Now please loose the attitude, it's not needed around here.
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There is no attitude at all. I just have a low tolerance for people who make things up and exaggerate, I guess. Can you name what Android phones released by a major carrier in the last 2 years didn't have CIQ? Everyone has known what it is since Trevor blew the lid off of it.