is this correct with this apk for recovery that was ported over from atrix anytime i wanna boot in to recovery i have to be plugged in via wall outlet?
mikeew83 said:
is this correct with this apk for recovery that was ported over from atrix anytime i wanna boot in to recovery i have to be plugged in via wall outlet?
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As far as I know yes that is correct. I have never gotten inti it without a wall plug
well that sucks
Hope we can eventually get a reg one that you can just hard boot in to like normal with past devices.
I Hope So Too, The Reason We Have To Plug Into The Wall Is That The Recovery App Hijacks Charge Mode And Brings Up CWM In Its Place.
Pulling the batt always triggers recovery mode w/o choosing mode from the sys recv apk BTW.
But I had dates that were out of wack if I did a recovery from a back up that was done with a battery pull.
So I always choose recov If doing a BU O/w I use a battery pull.
It's Hijacked Until You Either Hit Charge Mode Or Uninstall So If You Power Off Plug In And Wait CWM Will Come Up. Pulling The Battery Has No Say For The Hijack From System Recovery.
MikeJ92YJ said:
It's Hijacked Until You Either Hit Charge Mode Or Uninstall So If You Power Off Plug In And Wait CWM Will Come Up. Pulling The Battery Has No Say For The Hijack From System Recovery.
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I agree the only way it gets you ti recovery is because the power is off after the battery comes out.
there is really no.need for battery pull unless you cannot get your phone to do.anything. ie. The screen freezes up.
If i shut down the phone, after a few seconds on display appear charge and battery overheating image. Phone can only be enabled if go in recovery, and press reboot. Can not turn off. Any ideas, but not SC?
lTzXl said:
If i shut down the phone, after a few seconds on display appear charge and battery overheating image. Phone can only be enabled if go in recovery, and press reboot. Can not turn off. Any ideas, but not SC?
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Difficult to help with no specific information about the ROM, kernel, etc. running on your phone.
Since when do you have this issue?
What has happened just before this problem appeared the first time?
Just as theoretical suggestions:
1. Start into recovery mode, wipe cache partition.
2. Shut down the phone.
Pull out the battery.
Leave it out for about 5 minutes.
(Just to be sure that everything "cooled" down and CPU is fully out of any voltage and current.)
Then put the battery back into the phone.
3. If nothing helps, flash a stock ROM.
Then start into recovery mode and do a factory reset.
(So backup everything you do not want to lose before flashing.)
Good luck !
problem arose in the morning, after charging the phone. Reset did, flash another firmware. None of this helps.
I just loaded the Eclipse ROM, and have been running it for about a week now. When the phone dies and I plug in the charger, it lights up to the dual core screen, but when it's charged I can't turn the phone on via the power button, but have to pull the battery. And it takes an act of god to then turn on the phone. Took me a few battery pulls this last time around to be able to fire it up. Any ideas on a fix for this?
sounds like your phone is getting stuck between loading BSR and the charge mode. When you pull the battery, unplug it before you put it back in. phone should boot normally. Maybe try to reinstall System recovery and re-set recovery mode, (or charge mode if that's what you want it to do, not a good choice in my opinion though.)
How would I reinstall System Recovery? It looks to be part of the Eclipse ROM (settings -> Eclipse Parts -> Bootstrap Recovery). There's a "Install Recovery", "Recovery Mode", and "Charge Mode" option. Should I just try the "Install Recovery" or do I need to uninstall something first?
When the phone is fully charged I unplug the phone, then pull the battery.
thx
yeah "install recovery" and then plug in and recovery mode. phone will reboot and load BSR, if it works reboot. this way if the phone dies on you and you plug it in it should load to BSR and charge, once charged for a few mins you can reboot and let it charge while powered on.
OK I hit "Install Recovery" which it did, then "Recovery Mode", then it rebooted into recovery. I then rebooted the phone and waited til it died, then plugged in the charger. Now it boots into recovery. Still no charging mode, but at least I can reboot the phone. Is there any advantage/disadvantage to charging while the phone is off? This bugs me, but if it's a non-issue then I guess I won't worry about it.
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No benefit really....having it charged while off just means u can't use.it while its charging
But charging while in BSR is just fine also.
BUT if you REALLY want that battery to show up while charging, go into eclipse parts recovery. Press charge mode.
I highly recommend against it cuz if u don't reinstall recovery after charging and u change something bout ur phone u wont be able to get into BSR to restore a nandroid if bootlooping if charge mode was set last
I'm pretty new to the whole flashing business, so if whatever I asked does not make sense, please be patient. Thanks!
I recently flashed the Neutrino Rom V2.6 from V2.5p2. Got lazy and didn't do a full wipe before flashing (also my battery was at ~5% ) After the installation, I successfully booted into Android, but realized that the fresh ROM didn't have multilingual or sync support (since the Neutrino Rom is a stripped down CM7), so I booted back into recovery (still with low battery)
I subsequently flashed the addons provided by the dev for multilingual and sync support, and when I selected "Go back" in CWM recovery, it displayed a long string of error messages, I believe starting with E:\"........."
Ignoring the error messages, I selected "reboot system", hoping luck would be on my side, but it wasn't
the result of all this is is that I can only "turn on" the phone with it plugged, and it will go through loops at the Moto bootscreen...also if I try to enter recovery by pressing "power+vol down", the screen goes blank and does not enter CWM recovery. Further, I am also unable to charge the battery for some reason, because as soon as I plug the phone into the wall charger, it will go through the Moto bootloop
My question is, is this a hardbrick or softbrick?
If it's a softbrick, is there any way of fixing it, or has somebody else ran into a similar problem?
Please help me out here, like I said, I'm new to the whole world of flashing stuff, so much advice is needed, and any help would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot ahead of time
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I'm pretty new to the whole flashing business, so if whatever I asked does not make sense, please be patient. Thanks!
I recently flashed the Neutrino Rom V2.6 from V2.5p2. Got lazy and didn't do a full wipe before flashing (also my battery was at ~5% ) After the installation, I successfully booted into Android, but realized that the fresh ROM didn't have multilingual or sync support (since the Neutrino Rom is a stripped down CM7), so I booted back into recovery (still with low battery)
I subsequently flashed the addons provided by the dev for multilingual and sync support, and when I selected "Go back" in CWM recovery, it displayed a long string of error messages, I believe starting with E:\"........."
Ignoring the error messages, I selected "reboot system", hoping luck would be on my side, but it wasn't
the result of all this is is that I can only "turn on" the phone with it plugged, and it will go through loops at the Moto bootscreen...also if I try to enter recovery by pressing "power+vol down", the screen goes blank and does not enter CWM recovery. Further, I am also unable to charge the battery for some reason, because as soon as I plug the phone into the wall charger, it will go through the Moto bootloop
My question is, is this a hardbrick or softbrick?
If it's a softbrick, is there any way of fixing it, or has somebody else ran into a similar problem?
Please help me out here, like I said, I'm new to the whole world of flashing stuff, so much advice is needed, and any help would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot ahead of time
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Before you begin, turn OFF phone, remove battery, and connect to wall charger charger. When ? appears, install your battery and let it charge for a long time. NEVER FLASH WITH LOW BATTERY!
You need to reflash your recovery. Before you start, perform a proper WIPE. SKIP THE FIRST 4 STEPS, read this:
CaelanT said:
boot to recovery (DISREGARD)
Wipe Dalvik (DISREGARD)
wipe cache (DISREGARD)
factory reset/data (DISREGARD)
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
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This is the Recovery you should be using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
Make sure you fully understand before proceeding! If you do not know about fastboot, read up on it.
NOTE: I believe your device is soft bricked.
i have the same problem i was trying to connect my wifi it showed ..error...flashing 1-cm7 rc 1 ....neurtrino ee....darkside.....then neutrino gt in that order i flashed........i get the same thing u get the phone just continues to turn on n off on boot animation screen.....no cwm i just shows a black screeen ............anyone can assist us with are problem
wsxyz said:
i have the same problem i was trying to connect my wifi it showed ..error...flashing 1-cm7 rc 1 ....neurtrino ee....darkside.....then neutrino gt in that order i flashed........i get the same thing u get the phone just continues to turn on n off on boot animation screen.....no cwm i just shows a black screeen ............anyone can assist us with are problem
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Are you able to select Fastboot from the menu?
Soldier-2Point0 said:
Before you begin, turn OFF phone, remove battery, and connect to wall charger charger. When ? appears, install your battery and let it charge for a long time. NEVER FLASH WITH LOW BATTERY!
You need to reflash your recovery. Before you start, perform a proper WIPE read this:
This is the Recovery you should be using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
Make sure you fully understand before proceeding! If you do not know about fastboot, read up on it.
NOTE: I believe your device is soft bricked.
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Thanks for the reply!
When I plug in the phone without battery, it just goes to the Moto boot screen, and starts the loop again...the usual "?" symbol doesn't appear at all
I've done battery calibration before, where it was required to plug phone into wall charger without battery, and the "?" has always appeared
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Are you able to select Fastboot from the menu?
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I CAN select Fastboot from the menu, but it says "battery too low to flash"
pkvlover004 said:
Thanks for the reply!
When I plug in the phone without battery, it just goes to the Moto boot screen, and starts the loop again...the usual "?" symbol doesn't appear at all
I've done battery calibration before, where it was required to plug phone into wall charger without battery, and the "?" has always appeared
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Can you plug in your phone, with the battery in, to your pc and get to the fastboot, recovery, etc menu???
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pkvlover004 said:
I CAN select Fastboot from the menu, but it says "battery too low to flash"
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Try getting to that menu and let it charge for a while? Have you tried that? ANd I mean, let it charge for about an hour. Charging might take longer than usual because your screen will be on.
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Are you able to select Fastboot from the menu?
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Can you plug in your phone, with the battery in, to your pc and get to the fastboot, recovery, etc menu???
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Try getting to that menu and let it charge for a while? Have you tried that?
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trying to charge at fastboot menu now
will try fastboot/recovery via USB soon
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trying to charge at fastboot menu now
will try fastboot/recovery via USB soon
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Good luck!
update: charging on the fastboot screen now - the battery is a little warm, that means it's getting charged up?
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update: charging on the fastboot screen now - the battery is a little warm, that means it's getting charged up?
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It is possible, but remember your screen is on.
I guess you're good now?
Sent from my MB860 CM7 olympus latest nightly 30p Radio. Leave your charger at home!
sorry for the late reply...and thanks for all the help
no actually am not, I still can't get the battery charged up, which is the biggest issue right now...
I think if I can find someway to charge the battery without plugging in the phone, it's possible to enter fastboot with a charged battery
otherwise, even if I get to the bootloader menu (fastboot, nvflash, recovery etc etc), when I plug the phone into the computer and select fastboot, it'll still say "battery too low to flash"
Just a suggestion...trying to help. What if you find out a fresh charged battery before starting the recover procedure? I dunno if it will work because I dunno if there is some kind of serial number checking at this low level in the phone....I see that under no circunstances could you charge your battery again...
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Just a suggestion...trying to help. What if you find out a fresh charged battery before starting the recover procedure? I dunno if it will work because I dunno if there is some kind of serial number checking at this low level in the phone....I see that under no circunstances could you charge your battery again...
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pkvlover004 said:
sorry for the late reply...and thanks for all the help
no actually am not, I still can't get the battery charged up, which is the biggest issue right now...
I think if I can find someway to charge the battery without plugging in the phone, it's possible to enter fastboot with a charged battery
otherwise, even if I get to the bootloader menu (fastboot, nvflash, recovery etc etc), when I plug the phone into the computer and select fastboot, it'll still say "battery too low to flash"
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Borrow or buy a battery. Or make a new thread asking how to charge battery. Title on the thread is misleading.
thanks
Soldier-2Point0 said:
Before you begin, turn OFF phone, remove battery, and connect to wall charger charger. When ? appears, install your battery and let it charge for a long time. NEVER FLASH WITH LOW BATTERY!
You need to reflash your recovery. Before you start, perform a proper WIPE. SKIP THE FIRST 4 STEPS, read this:
This is the Recovery you should be using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
Make sure you fully understand before proceeding! If you do not know about fastboot, read up on it.
NOTE: I believe your device is soft bricked.
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i use this method n it worked thanks..to bad my wifi still shows up error after i attempt to connect it it doesn't reboot thats good i think
low battery
Even i am stuck in recovery. No matter how many times i flash a ROM after wipe data/ cache partition and dalvik and then install the ROM i still boot into recovery when the ROM asks to reboot the device.
Here's what happened
1. Had a nandroid backup of older version of CWM mostly 5.0.2.x
2. Based on Nottachtrix thread installed the romracer recovery(updated flashable zip)
3. Updated to Nottachtrix 1.3.1 and successfully booted
4. Figured out that contacts everything weren't synced. So wanted to go back to older CM7 rom using restore ROM
5. Something went wrong during restoration. Data and other wern't restored and i guess only boot had been restored
6. Endless loop into recovery thereafter.
Trying out different things like flashing boot.img, recovery etc battery drained and couldn't flash.
Fasbtoot and other options triggered by using volume buttons and power button works fine. RDS also detects the device but bootloader unknown and other info all were unknown.
Since battery drained i was searching on methods to charge the battery. Had figured out that custom method for charging the phone needs to be implemented.
While playing around again with phone i powered it through directly through charger and opted for linux cold-booting which gave me the battery icon with the question mark on screen. Popped in the battery and it started to charge. So now i know i can charge the battery using this method.
I am yet to make progress on flashing ROM successfully again. Is my backup lost ? Did the error happen because i backed up using an older version of CWM or flashing to Nottachtrix changed something
I even restored successfully to my previous ROM after deleting .android secure from ext SDcard but still it threw me to CWM only :|
Help appreciated.
Hi i just installed bad bass battery and noticed that "Kernel" is using 29% of the battery..is that normal?i'm using LF2 stock ROM with siyah 1.1 kernel my battery went from 99% to 94% in 1h15 mn i only have wifi on, no syncing or naything else
It seems to be the kernel your problem,flash another kernel, first try to calibrate your battery ....METHOD 1-- 1
. Please download the phone completely.
2. Try to restart, if this were to happen, do it again to turn off for lack of battery.
3. Loaded the phone off preferably overnight or long.
4. Turn on the phone with the charger plugged in and then pull it off.
N. B. does not require the Root. -METHOD 2-- 1
. Download the phone completely.
2. Enter into Recovery Mode (if it is not possible for lack of battery, connect the phone to the charger).
3. Follow the path Advanced -> Wipe battery stats and confirm.
4. Go back and restart (i.e. , follow the path Go Back -> Reboot system now). 5. Leave charge the phone completely up to 100% (preferably overnight or long) and then let it drain completely until the off., without connecting it to your PC or to the charger, during this period. N. B. You must have Root * Clockworkmod recovery installed. METHOD 3-- 1. Charge your phone to 100% (with the phone turned on) preferably overnight or at least a long period. 2. Leave the phone connected to the charger and switch off the appliance. 3. Let it load still for 10-15 minutes (always without disconnecting it from the charger) in practice you have to see the written full charge or the % to 100 %. 4. Enter into Recovery Mode (always without disconnecting it from the charger) and follow the path Advanced -> Wipe battery stats and confirm. 5. Reboot (i.e. , follow the path Go Back -> Reboot system now). 6. Wait for the entire system is loaded, and then disconnect it from the charger. N. B. You must have Root * Clockworkmod recovery installed. METHOD 5-- 1
. Turn off your phone.
2. Fully charge your phone, preferably overnight or long.
3. When the battery is fully charged and marks the 100% disconnect your phone and remove the battery.
4. Wait for 90 seconds to be exact (it must really be precise, wait exactly 90 seconds.) 6. Put the battery and turn on your phone. N. B. are not required nor Root nor Clockworkmod recovery.
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It seems to be the kernel your problem,flash another kernel, first try to calibrate your battery ....METHOD 1-- 1
. Please download the phone completely.
2. Try to restart, if this were to happen, do it again to turn off for lack of battery.
3. Loaded the phone off preferably overnight or long.
4. Turn on the phone with the charger plugged in and then pull it off.
N. B. does not require the Root. -METHOD 2-- 1
. Download the phone completely.
2. Enter into Recovery Mode (if it is not possible for lack of battery, connect the phone to the charger).
3. Follow the path Advanced -> Wipe battery stats and confirm.
4. Go back and restart (i.e. , follow the path Go Back -> Reboot system now). 5. Leave charge the phone completely up to 100% (preferably overnight or long) and then let it drain completely until the off., without connecting it to your PC or to the charger, during this period. N. B. You must have Root * Clockworkmod recovery installed. METHOD 3-- 1. Charge your phone to 100% (with the phone turned on) preferably overnight or at least a long period. 2. Leave the phone connected to the charger and switch off the appliance. 3. Let it load still for 10-15 minutes (always without disconnecting it from the charger) in practice you have to see the written full charge or the % to 100 %. 4. Enter into Recovery Mode (always without disconnecting it from the charger) and follow the path Advanced -> Wipe battery stats and confirm. 5. Reboot (i.e. , follow the path Go Back -> Reboot system now). 6. Wait for the entire system is loaded, and then disconnect it from the charger. N. B. You must have Root * Clockworkmod recovery installed. METHOD 5-- 1
. Turn off your phone.
2. Fully charge your phone, preferably overnight or long.
3. When the battery is fully charged and marks the 100% disconnect your phone and remove the battery.
4. Wait for 90 seconds to be exact (it must really be precise, wait exactly 90 seconds.) 6. Put the battery and turn on your phone. N. B. are not required nor Root nor Clockworkmod recovery.
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thnx i will try that..but i do always charge my phone overnight
Battery stats are wiped anyway when the phone is full, they are not used for calibration. (The battery got an internal chip for that)
Calibration is achieved by fully charging, fully discharging in one go and then fully charging again (A so-called battery cycle) as included in the above description.
However note that a full discharge causes a lot of strain to your battery; if you often completely drain your battery it will degrade very fast.
If you got a lot of apps which have data usage or a poor Wifi connection the drain might be normal since it requires the chipset to work far more than under optimal conditions.
ok back again the kernel is eating 37% of the battery as least thats according to bad ass battery stats..i(m on shiyah