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Why htc evo 3d is 1.2 ghz when the MSM8660 is 1.5 ghz natively?
And if i'll overclock it to 1.5 ghz the processor will have less life?
Thanks.
The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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every one of my current kernels run the cpu @ the qualcomm spec'ed speed by default
for the 3d, it is 1.51GHz
not 1 person has had an issue with this... and stability is solid
Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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megabiteg said:
Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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They do it for stability and to keep heat down along with battery life in mind
Same goes for all CPU or video cards for the pc or laptops heat and stability . It's what ran best at the factory when it was designed .
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So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
LoKKeR said:
So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
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You can do what you want man lol just the more you up the CPU the more battery it will use also if you don't do it right it can burn it up. So just be careful .
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if you look at qualcomm`s website you will notice that they state that it is clocked at 1.5ghz. I have been running it and it reduces lag with minimal battery drain. because it was built to clock at 1.5ghz it will run at optimal efficiency at this speed. what causes instability is over and under volting.
jwolf1 said:
The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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I don't know where you get your info from about the 3VO being an already unstable phone to begin with, and setting it to manufacturer standards will only make the phone a "brick."
I really hope that was a troll post and not from a real 3VO owner.
Most ROMS you find, O/C to 1.5ghz anyway. Stability? Pffft.
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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Stock speed is what it was designed for . I wouldn't mess with things. You can if you want but whenever you bump the CPU up it does tend to use more battery among heat.
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LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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its rated for 1.5ghz -on the reference system-, if a builder make a system which dont follow reference board specifics it has to adjust something to make for it, in this case clock speed.
as generally builder are required to leave a lot of leeway in their specs you shouldnt have problems, just a processor a bit warmer than what specs require and which use more battery than for htc specs.
yet keep in mind that you arent using it as for -htc- specs (which supersedes the cpu maker) so you arent covered by warranty if something goes wrong.
LoKKeR said:
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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jacobsaleh said:
I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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Lol I agree cause of the winter... Tho the kernel depends on who messed with it some folks tweak things and other can tweak it to run all the time at a certain speed which isn't good to do all the time..
ya i think HTC did it just to squeeze some more life out of these batteries.
Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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No
There ya go.
It's possibile that gpu can be bricked?! With anthrax kernel.
No
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
how do you know? will you refound him if you are wrong?
dont just give false assurance if you cant put your money were you put your mouth..
1.2 ghz are what the hardware designer set as specs, anything else is a risk - minimal but still there is a chance that something will go wrong and if it happens its not covered by warranty as you are running the thing out of specs.
so its the owner choice, the risk its really small, nearly irrilevant but you cant tell him that there isnt any.
I saw someone got a score like 4568 in antutu benchmark using our ace. And he uses 2.3.6 with 806MHz. Is he cheating? lol
BTW, I want to ask how can I get a high score like 2
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like 25xx. (which rom or something?)
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Those benchmarks especially antutu r fake duude ..try 3 benchmarks in a row snd see if u get the same scores..and antutu adds sd speed to ur scores ..wtf is that??!!!!
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Does it really matter if Antutu, Quadrant or any benchmark apps give us these scores? As long as I don't have force closes, SOD, etc. I'm happy with my phone.
So I've been unable to get higher benchmarks than what I've attached. I know its not really a way to judge my phone, but rather me being curious. How are people getting such high scores on their rezounds? I'm currently running CleanROM 4.1 and loving every bit of it. Let me know what your scores are and what you've done to get those scores.
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the highest score i ever got was 7200 on BAMF ICS v1.1 with SebastianFM's kernel.
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So I've been unable to get higher benchmarks than what I've attached. I know its not really a way to judge my phone, but rather me being curious. How are people getting such high scores on their rezounds? I'm currently running CleanROM 4.1 and loving every bit of it. Let me know what your scores are and what you've done to get those scores.
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I got a very similar score the first time I ran Antutu with CleanRom 4.1 (in the mid 3000's). I tried it again a few days later, not having changed anything in particular and got a 6276. So I'm not sure why there was a 3000+ point discrepency.
I've tried it a couple times and its consistantly in the 3000 range. I've never seen even remotely close to 7000 on my Rezound no matter what Rom I was running, lol.
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those benchmarking apps are inaccurate and useless. tried running twice back to back. first over 7000 then just barely 3500. total waste of time
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those benchmarking apps are inaccurate and useless. tried running twice back to back. first over 7000 then just barely 3500. total waste of time
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Yeah I know they're not accurate, but until I have a better way to test it, I use em for the hell of it.
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im also getting crap benchmarks on any gb kernel i try, doesn't make sense for a dual core device.
I've been hitting around 6k with Antutu.
I mostly use it as a comparison to my old Inctedible though...this phone is super smooth, so I don't really care what the benchmark says!
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what are you guys getting with cf-bench and the updated quadrant?
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what are you guys getting with cf-bench and the updated quadrant?
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I've been getting decent scores with quadrant, but they haven't updated the list of devices so its hard to have anything to compare it to. I haven't tried the other one.
Also, I know there's a difference, but I get scores in the high 8000s with my Xoom overclocked to 1.5 ghz, but only 3000s with my Rezound clocked at 1.5 ghz as well.
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This has been discussed in Sebastians thread. It has to do w/ an issue with mpdecision. Besides benchmarks mean nothing!
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I consistently get over 7000 when I run Antutu. Overclocked to 1.834 on cleanrom 4.3
I get close to 3000 with Quadrant...but I only really use it to see if new tweaks help or hurt.
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
Whoa...a lotof views,,but nut sure either
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I don't think I have an answer, but you have to ask a question before you get an answer.
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takota6 said:
Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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I was running newts rls1 and getting 3600 quadrant and 6500+ antutu. When I switched to rls3 everything went down...so back to rls1 for me.
Other people have pointed out and I find this to work, that if you use setcpu and check "enable profiles", the 2nd core is turned on. I went ahead and set a screen off profile of 192/192 (max/min). I"m experimenting with these values, though. It seems I can knock down my mA use (per Battery Monitor Widget) by using the profile. The cpu does appear to be scaling properly. Many people have said not to use any of these cpu things and I did have some trouble with setcpu previously but it seems to be doing its thing with RLS1 anyway.
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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Programs probably just are't reading it right.
Speaking generally, the 2nd core will sit idle until needed, so it may be 'offline' when those apps check.
Until we get custom kernels/kernel source, there isn't much that can be done about it.
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Lunatic summed it up perfectly. There are 2 cores, but the applications can't "see" them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1496934 If you read through this thread the OP talks about the mpdecision not working properly. Basically it's the file that governs when both cores are on etc. It is something that can affect synthetic benches, but not real world performance. Probably why current ****s given by HTC = 0. Quadrant = trash and benches are for jerking off to numbers which generally is not an indicative to device performance. But whatever floats your boat I suppose .
Kool txs every1,,and I do use benchmarks to how my current Rom or tweak us working,,most of us are visual and need a program to tell us how it is..but I'm glad there s alot of hardcore peps to do the schooling
Perflock. There is no CPU management. Using setcpu doesn't do anything...its all in your head.
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It's like using a condom with a hole in it. There's no purpose for it, it'll only cause problems or children.
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If you use setcpu or similar and change pretty much any settings it should force the second core to do work.
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Like a couple others have said kernel source is the answer
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I done benchmark test in my new SGS3 I9300, As previously i have seen in many videos that after test S3 is winner but after my test My Device was on second Place.. Why So? Is there any problem in my device???
What benchmark test did you run?
Benchmarks are really just numbers dude, if your device performs well in day to day use then it's fine
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Benchmark in S3
I run Quadrant Standard Edition & AnTuTu Benchmark both..its was 20 to 40 fps..
ravitomar said:
I run Quadrant Standard Edition & AnTuTu Benchmark both..its was 20 to 40 fps..
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Turn off power saving and run the antutu test again it should read at 60 fps
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I run my s3 on three different benchmark apps. In quadratn the score was 5340
In antutu 13567
In geekbench 2 1876
What wer your scores??
And obviously s3 will not be first because htc one x+ , note 2, nexus 4 will score higher cause of the 2gigs of ram and they are overclocked
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I run my s3 on three different benchmark apps. In quadratn the score was 5340
In antutu 13567
In geekbench 2 1876
What wer your scores??
And obviously s3 will not be first because htc one x+ , note 2, nexus 4 will score higher cause of the 2gigs of ram and they are overclocked
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Benchmark scores are different depending on what kernel and Rom you are using.
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Im on stock jb
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IntenseTorture said:
Im on stock jb
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I found using shiyah kernel my benchmark was higher than stock kernel also the benchmark differs whether you have power saving on or off as with off it gives a higher score as on limits the cpu.
Also depends on what you have running in the background or if you've overclocked etc etc
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Im on stock jb
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Benchmarks don't really mean anything!! And most of the time benchmarks are software manipulated....
You should judge your phone by its behavior, if it lags, stutters or drains battery you have a problem. If not it's okay!!!
my benchmark
mine were, In quadratn the score was 9334
In antutu 11025....
ravitomar said:
mine were, In quadratn the score was 9334
In antutu 11025....
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Quadrant 9334? Looks like you made a world record !
Well I get 14.9 k in antutu & 7k in quadrant the biggest thing which effects Is the temperature of phone if its hot then scores will reduce because cpu throttles and underclocks too 800mhz
But benchmarks don't matter much
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Dual boot siyah kernel
1st rom stock jb 4.1.1
2nd rom cm 10 4.1.2-4.2
Mine:
Quadrant: 6464
ES 2.0: 47.00
Antutu: 18153
I used to worry about quadrant scores, until I realized that they truly mean nothing compared to other devices. The only times the scores are handy for is comparing runs OF YOUR OWN PHONE. That's it, nothing else.
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mine were, In quadratn the score was 9334
In antutu 11025....
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Turn off power saving and run again