Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
Whoa...a lotof views,,but nut sure either
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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I was running newts rls1 and getting 3600 quadrant and 6500+ antutu. When I switched to rls3 everything went down...so back to rls1 for me.
Other people have pointed out and I find this to work, that if you use setcpu and check "enable profiles", the 2nd core is turned on. I went ahead and set a screen off profile of 192/192 (max/min). I"m experimenting with these values, though. It seems I can knock down my mA use (per Battery Monitor Widget) by using the profile. The cpu does appear to be scaling properly. Many people have said not to use any of these cpu things and I did have some trouble with setcpu previously but it seems to be doing its thing with RLS1 anyway.
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Just checking,but under antutu CPU master,or setcpu,and Rom manager pro..it only showes 1 core ..my quadrant are around 3500 ..s-off running newts rl3,,,txs
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Programs probably just are't reading it right.
Speaking generally, the 2nd core will sit idle until needed, so it may be 'offline' when those apps check.
Until we get custom kernels/kernel source, there isn't much that can be done about it.
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Lunatic summed it up perfectly. There are 2 cores, but the applications can't "see" them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1496934 If you read through this thread the OP talks about the mpdecision not working properly. Basically it's the file that governs when both cores are on etc. It is something that can affect synthetic benches, but not real world performance. Probably why current ****s given by HTC = 0. Quadrant = trash and benches are for jerking off to numbers which generally is not an indicative to device performance. But whatever floats your boat I suppose .
Kool txs every1,,and I do use benchmarks to how my current Rom or tweak us working,,most of us are visual and need a program to tell us how it is..but I'm glad there s alot of hardcore peps to do the schooling
Perflock. There is no CPU management. Using setcpu doesn't do anything...its all in your head.
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It's like using a condom with a hole in it. There's no purpose for it, it'll only cause problems or children.
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If you use setcpu or similar and change pretty much any settings it should force the second core to do work.
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Like a couple others have said kernel source is the answer
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So if I am reading correctly it seems both cores are not on all the time? That could be a reason why it feels choppier compared to epic touch
Both cores run when needed. Trolls dont bother me....
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Several threads on this. Both cores don't run at same time but you can make them
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So if I am reading correctly it seems both cores are not on all the time? That could be a reason why it feels choppier compared to epic touch
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The problem is the fact the htc sense is one resource hogging *****.
You know, if both cores ran at once your phone would drain like there was a hole in the battery.
The second core kicks in only when it's needed, being that, there really isn't much of a need doing basic tasks.
Also, I haven't really noticed any choppyness in my phone whatsoever.
I run both cores and battery drain is no prob if set up right. Check other posts on topic and most are positive. My experience has been awesome
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If I flash a senseless rom will I lose the camera (htc camera better than stock android imo)
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I run both cores and battery drain is no prob if set up right. Check other posts on topic and most are positive. My experience has been awesome
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One of the reasons that the evo is so great is due to its processor. The second core runs only when it needs to, and/or runs at half the speed of the first until you need more power. This is done to conserve power and heat like others have mentioned. This feature isn't a bane but a boon for the device. Other devices don't have this method of processing (like the photon 4g). The photon 4g has two active cores all the time but during benchmarks it only out preforms the evo on certain marks, where the photon was designed to excel, like video viewing
Why htc evo 3d is 1.2 ghz when the MSM8660 is 1.5 ghz natively?
And if i'll overclock it to 1.5 ghz the processor will have less life?
Thanks.
The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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every one of my current kernels run the cpu @ the qualcomm spec'ed speed by default
for the 3d, it is 1.51GHz
not 1 person has had an issue with this... and stability is solid
Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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Its not uncommon for manufacturer to underclock processors for overall performance improvement and battery life.
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They do it for stability and to keep heat down along with battery life in mind
Same goes for all CPU or video cards for the pc or laptops heat and stability . It's what ran best at the factory when it was designed .
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So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
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So i can overclock it to 1.5 ghz but it will have less life time.
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You can do what you want man lol just the more you up the CPU the more battery it will use also if you don't do it right it can burn it up. So just be careful .
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if you look at qualcomm`s website you will notice that they state that it is clocked at 1.5ghz. I have been running it and it reduces lag with minimal battery drain. because it was built to clock at 1.5ghz it will run at optimal efficiency at this speed. what causes instability is over and under volting.
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The 3vo is an overall less stable phone so if they set it any higher it might as well be a brick
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I don't know where you get your info from about the 3VO being an already unstable phone to begin with, and setting it to manufacturer standards will only make the phone a "brick."
I really hope that was a troll post and not from a real 3VO owner.
Most ROMS you find, O/C to 1.5ghz anyway. Stability? Pffft.
mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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Stock speed is what it was designed for . I wouldn't mess with things. You can if you want but whenever you bump the CPU up it does tend to use more battery among heat.
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mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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its rated for 1.5ghz -on the reference system-, if a builder make a system which dont follow reference board specifics it has to adjust something to make for it, in this case clock speed.
as generally builder are required to leave a lot of leeway in their specs you shouldnt have problems, just a processor a bit warmer than what specs require and which use more battery than for htc specs.
yet keep in mind that you arent using it as for -htc- specs (which supersedes the cpu maker) so you arent covered by warranty if something goes wrong.
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mmmm.. i can't understand you. please write english a little better. Anyway if i'll set the cpu to 1.5ghz i don't ruin it right? It will not have a lesser life right? Because it's 1.5 ghz native.
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I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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I'm running my EVO at 1.5ghz for 2 months now, and I dont experience any of the mentioned issues, NO extra heat.(maybe because of the winter temperature ), NO battery drains.
Remember that there is a cpu governor which manages the cpu ghz as per the use demands.
Hope this will satisfy your concerns.
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Lol I agree cause of the winter... Tho the kernel depends on who messed with it some folks tweak things and other can tweak it to run all the time at a certain speed which isn't good to do all the time..
ya i think HTC did it just to squeeze some more life out of these batteries.
Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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Mmmm... Ok that's right. But you haven't answered to my question >.< Overclock to 1.5 Ghz will ruin the cpu?? Will have the cpu less life time?
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No
There ya go.
It's possibile that gpu can be bricked?! With anthrax kernel.
No
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
how do you know? will you refound him if you are wrong?
dont just give false assurance if you cant put your money were you put your mouth..
1.2 ghz are what the hardware designer set as specs, anything else is a risk - minimal but still there is a chance that something will go wrong and if it happens its not covered by warranty as you are running the thing out of specs.
so its the owner choice, the risk its really small, nearly irrilevant but you cant tell him that there isnt any.
So I've been unable to get higher benchmarks than what I've attached. I know its not really a way to judge my phone, but rather me being curious. How are people getting such high scores on their rezounds? I'm currently running CleanROM 4.1 and loving every bit of it. Let me know what your scores are and what you've done to get those scores.
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the highest score i ever got was 7200 on BAMF ICS v1.1 with SebastianFM's kernel.
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So I've been unable to get higher benchmarks than what I've attached. I know its not really a way to judge my phone, but rather me being curious. How are people getting such high scores on their rezounds? I'm currently running CleanROM 4.1 and loving every bit of it. Let me know what your scores are and what you've done to get those scores.
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I got a very similar score the first time I ran Antutu with CleanRom 4.1 (in the mid 3000's). I tried it again a few days later, not having changed anything in particular and got a 6276. So I'm not sure why there was a 3000+ point discrepency.
I've tried it a couple times and its consistantly in the 3000 range. I've never seen even remotely close to 7000 on my Rezound no matter what Rom I was running, lol.
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those benchmarking apps are inaccurate and useless. tried running twice back to back. first over 7000 then just barely 3500. total waste of time
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those benchmarking apps are inaccurate and useless. tried running twice back to back. first over 7000 then just barely 3500. total waste of time
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Yeah I know they're not accurate, but until I have a better way to test it, I use em for the hell of it.
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im also getting crap benchmarks on any gb kernel i try, doesn't make sense for a dual core device.
I've been hitting around 6k with Antutu.
I mostly use it as a comparison to my old Inctedible though...this phone is super smooth, so I don't really care what the benchmark says!
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what are you guys getting with cf-bench and the updated quadrant?
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what are you guys getting with cf-bench and the updated quadrant?
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I've been getting decent scores with quadrant, but they haven't updated the list of devices so its hard to have anything to compare it to. I haven't tried the other one.
Also, I know there's a difference, but I get scores in the high 8000s with my Xoom overclocked to 1.5 ghz, but only 3000s with my Rezound clocked at 1.5 ghz as well.
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This has been discussed in Sebastians thread. It has to do w/ an issue with mpdecision. Besides benchmarks mean nothing!
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I consistently get over 7000 when I run Antutu. Overclocked to 1.834 on cleanrom 4.3
I get close to 3000 with Quadrant...but I only really use it to see if new tweaks help or hurt.
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Alright what governor r u guys using? I'm using smartass2 and although I het excellent batt life when screen is off, it is a bit choppy and not as smooth as I would like.and it drains fairly fast when screen is on or plating angry birds for like 5 mins. I'm looking for something that's a good balance between smoothness and most importantly battery.
any ideas?
Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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have you set any special permaiters or anything? whats ur batt stats?
I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
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This was today with lots of texting and some youtube and ESPN.
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I usually get 15 hours or so with 1:45-2 hoes screen time at best. This is on chingys 1.2 with global firmware and radios.
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I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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ive used lionheart, and it drained the batter SO fast. ima give wheatly a try on monday and intidemand tomorrow. compare the 2 results i guess lol
Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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damn.... lol ima try wheatly and see how it is.... maybe ill switch to One xxxx rom
Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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flash a kernel that has them. DSB is the one that i know of that has a lot of them.
now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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It's called performance...
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It's called performance...
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
Next noobish question. It's easy to find it in AOSP, but I can't find the governors in Sense ROMs. I'm currently using ViperRez.
Smartassv2 on ziggy kernel. Went about 15+ hrs with 2+ screen on hrs OC'd @ 1.8. I also tethered ALOT during the screen off period and ran multiple benchmarks. Stock battery
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. So you can see whats going on. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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it hasent work with me.... every time i force all cores online, the 2nd one still just shuts off auto mtcicallly. i just gavce up on that, but yea im thinking pegasusq will be best shot. or interactice for both gaming.
I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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You have to read xda rules again.. Your free to use both of them and see it for your self without asking which is best in public!!
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I've noticed better battery life as well; not majorly, but noticeably. Although I feel it also has a little perfomance drop. Could just be me, though.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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1ghz is perfect. As for voltage it really varies but I subtract 75 or 50 mv from all voltages.
PS. Oh nice, hope you get wifi soon then.
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