GPS Fails in unusual manner - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was driving around today and had Google Navigation running. All of a sudden it couldn't find a satellite. For miles this continued happening. I have a GPS Test app and it said that the gps was on but no satellites in view. I was on a highway a few hundred feet to either side in a open elevated location. I've been through here before without issues.
I checked a map and Clearwire is now covering the area. I stopped at a store and got a gps signal Inside the store but not outside.
Anyone else experience anything like this?
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I had some problems with my GPS as well.. all worked after re-flashing and matching kernel + baseband...
Using the new pre rooted GB rom wont allow me to find any satellites at all:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16130033&postcount=138

But I didn't flash GB- I'm still on 2.1, and my GPS works fine at my home which is not covered by the Clearwire LTE service. As for it not working in the GB, the baseband is specific for different regions and you probably need to change the build.prop file to use the proper timezone/time servers for the service.
It was totally strange as I wasn't anywhere where I shouldn't get GPS, it was working and then just stopped while I was on the highway. To not be able to find a single satellite when you have 360 degree of view of the sky, is indicative of something else going on like LTE service blocking the signals. Which has been reported in the national press. I was driving along the fringes of the coverage area.

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Can get GPS to lock always..but in Portland, Not!

I have the Verizon 6800 and I have tested radio 3.42.30 & 40 found no difference for my device. Both radios locks under 2min sometimes less than 1min. I use BAF tool which does the work for me just click & walk away...soon it will lock.
My company headquarters is in Beaverton, OR but I am staying in downtown Portland. Since I landed from the airport and driving around downtown Portland all day...no locks at all...
Back home is Memphis, TN and I can get locks throughout the state and since I border Arkansas & Mississippi and get locks there as well when I move around the tri-state area....
My goodness....if I had not visited Portland/Beaverton before, I would be very disappointed if I was depending on this device for navigation here...
Tall buildings obstructing the sats?
ilkhan said:
Tall buildings obstructing the sats?
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But my signal bars are all there and excellent while downtown...back home i do not have this issue downtown getting locks...
try and change gpsmode to =1.
i had the same issue in las vegas. once i changed to standalone mode (gpsmode=1) and restarted i got a lock - too bad it was the morning we left.
this was back in the dcd 2.x / radio 3.27 days but try it.
I heard that our mogul gps is lock to us region that won't work outside us and canada.
AstronusX said:
I heard that our mogul gps is lock to us region that won't work outside us and canada.
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Since when has oregon left the union?
I had the GPS working in Southern Mexico just fine
I noticed I can only get GPS locks from a moving car. This helped me immensly on my recent trip to New Jersey. Try using HTC GPS tool and running the clear memory command. Also try using this app to obtain a lock first, then load your map software after it establishes a lock.
Good luck!
Whats pretty common with most standalone GPS's and I'm sure also pertain to our phones, don't rely on just the GPS to sync by itself. It usually helps if you open your navigation software and search for the area that you are in, then the GPS has some idea of where you are and can have a better idea of what satellites to look for. With WLS and GoogleMaps, I can never get a sync until I search for my town and then enable GPS mode, it will sync eventually, still takes several minutes at times, but will sync. If I leave it in SF or Atlanta it may take hours and multiple reattempts and still no sync.
Just my experience with it.
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[Q] GPS with NO data connection

I was traveling overseas where there was no CDMA service but I brought my Fascinate and had it on airplane mode. However, I could not lock a GPS signal for the entire trip, even when standing in the middle of an empty field. I read on the dev forum something about GPS and NTP. DO you need a network connection to GPS lock on the Fascinate? Was running superclean 2.9.2 at the time.
I use mine off net fairly frequently. Typically with BackCountry Navigator. What app were you using?
I was using MapDroyd but even GPS Status couldnt lock it.
Airplane mode shuts everything off except for the phone. So the GPS chip was turned off and that is why you couldn't get a lock while over there.
drnihili said:
I use mine off net fairly frequently. Typically with BackCountry Navigator. What app were you using?
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Slight hijack. . .
How do you like BackCountry Navigator? I am planning a trip out west this summer with the family and thought this may be nice to have. It is worth the $10?

Google navigation issues?

Is anyone having a problem with google nav? Telenav gps works fine but when i try to use google navigation it will never acquire satellites. I left it on for a couple of minutes with the same acquiring satellites message on the bottom.
Just tried it, picked up satellites right away and worked fine.
I have no problem..i got lock in right away..
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Finally got it to work by turning off location service by wifi or cell tower but it took around 6 minutes to get gps. i wonder if living by the ocean has an effect on it. Plus its very cloudy here.

Problems with my HTC One X+

It looks like I am going to be swapping out my one x+
Any one else have these isses?
-GPS jumps around and doesn't lock on at all sometimes. My phone tells me I am in vegas, when I am in los angeles
-Wifi needs to be restarted 1-2 times a day. I am connected to my router, but cannot access the internet
surfer123 said:
It looks like I am going to be swapping out my one x+
Any one else have these isses?
-GPS jumps around and doesn't lock on at all sometimes. My phone tells me I am in vegas, when I am in los angeles
-Wifi needs to be restarted 1-2 times a day. I am connected to my router, but cannot access the internet
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Nah, sounds like you have a lemon. I've been on GPS non-stop since I got here to San Diego, and it works perfectly every time. The wifi is also rock solid in my hotel.
Have you tried a factory reset to see if changes anything?
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Nah, sounds like you have a lemon. I've been on GPS non-stop since I got here to San Diego, and it works perfectly every time. The wifi is also rock solid in my hotel.
Have you tried a factory reset to see if changes anything?
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yeah I did a reset.
I did some research and it seems the GPS issue could be related to my router and google thinking the MAC is in a different location. When the phone is off wifi, the GPS seems to work fine.
I am not sure what is up with the wifi though.
I've had mine since Friday with none of those issues..good luck..just take it back and swap it for a new one .
surfer123 said:
It looks like I am going to be swapping out my one x+
Any one else have these isses?
-GPS jumps around and doesn't lock on at all sometimes. My phone tells me I am in vegas, when I am in los angeles
-Wifi needs to be restarted 1-2 times a day. I am connected to my router, but cannot access the internet
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No issues at all. Been flawless....
I have noticed everything is improved over the One X. Voice quality, speed, etc. I can tell project butter is in play as I have a Galaxy Nexus (gsm) and notice similarities.
Wifi can be a router setting issue. The local thing I did notice with some older HTC devices. Make sure you have all the GPS setting turned on and restart the phone outside. If it keeps doing this I would simply exchange.
Problem here too
My husband and I got two HTC One X+'s last Saturday. - Same problem. With certain location settings, we are sent to Chantilly, VA (to an AT&T store location, I believe). We live 450 miles away in NC.
One scenario: If we uncheck the 3rd Location option in settings (google search..) and keep the first two checked. If we leave the phone sitting for a little while, google maps will come up at our location, then it swings up to Chantilly, VA and stays there for 3-5 seconds, and then swings back down to us in NC.
If we also check the 3rd Location option in settings, it will stay in Virginia.
On Tuesday, I called HTC Support 4 times, trying to figure this out. I've done a factory reset.
Since it looks like it's going to an AT&T center, we've wondered if the phones were sitting there for a while, generating entries in the Google database? Any possibility that the phone also has some sort of internal database?
I'll probably call HTC again tomorrow and I'm at the point where I can have this escalated to a developer. Depending on the answers, I may go to the AT&T store, -- have them open another phone (if they have some in stock) and see how Maps behaves out of the box.
vickilh2 said:
My husband and I got two HTC One X+'s last Saturday. - Same problem. With certain location settings, we are sent to Chantilly, VA (to an AT&T store location, I believe). We live 450 miles away in NC.
One scenario: If we uncheck the 3rd Location option in settings (google search..) and keep the first two checked. If we leave the phone sitting for a little while, google maps will come up at our location, then it swings up to Chantilly, VA and stays there for 3-5 seconds, and then swings back down to us in NC.
If we also check the 3rd Location option in settings, it will stay in Virginia.
On Tuesday, I called HTC Support 4 times, trying to figure this out. I've done a factory reset.
Since it looks like it's going to an AT&T center, we've wondered if the phones were sitting there for a while, generating entries in the Google database? Any possibility that the phone also has some sort of internal database?
I'll probably call HTC again tomorrow and I'm at the point where I can have this escalated to a developer. Depending on the answers, I may go to the AT&T store, -- have them open another phone (if they have some in stock) and see how Maps behaves out of the box.
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UPDATE: We made a trip yesterday, 1.5 hours away. The GPS and cell location services worked fine! It was not until we got within range of our cell phone tower, just up the street from us, or within range of our wireless, that the phone thought it was back in Chantilly, VA. Turning GPS on fixed this.
I don't think there's anything wrong with our router or cell tower -- my old Galaxy phone has no trouble at all with location. Ditto for my Nexus 7 tablet.
We've left GPS on, and it's looking like the phone is slowly learning that our router and cell phone tower are not located at the AT&T store in Chantilly. It definitely looks like traveling around with the phone helped to give it more info about where we are.
It seems like maybe the original image put on the phone inadvertently had location info? Or there's some sort of internal database with location info that doesn't get wiped when you do a factory reset? HTC is going to be running into some problems with this -- I can't believe that we have the only phones with this problem to overcome.
Does anyone know more about how location services are handled?
vickilh2 said:
UPDATE: We made a trip yesterday, 1.5 hours away. The GPS and cell location services worked fine! It was not until we got within range of our cell phone tower, just up the street from us, or within range of our wireless, that the phone thought it was back in Chantilly, VA. Turning GPS on fixed this.
I don't think there's anything wrong with our router or cell tower -- my old Galaxy phone has no trouble at all with location. Ditto for my Nexus 7 tablet.
We've left GPS on, and it's looking like the phone is slowly learning that our router and cell phone tower are not located at the AT&T store in Chantilly. It definitely looks like traveling around with the phone helped to give it more info about where we are.
It seems like maybe the original image put on the phone inadvertently had location info? Or there's some sort of internal database with location info that doesn't get wiped when you do a factory reset? HTC is going to be running into some problems with this -- I can't believe that we have the only phones with this problem to overcome.
Does anyone know more about how location services are handled?
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Location is once again stuck in VA. Spoke to HTC earlier today, terrible support person, trying again.
Called HTC support again last night. The person said that this was a known issue and a fix will be getting sent out at some point. - Though there is a possibility that she was just trying to get rid of me. Whatever I asked, she just said yes.
I'd love to hear from other folks who feel that the HOX+ is working flawlessly for them. No problems at all? Thanks!
vickilh2 said:
Called HTC support again last night. The person said that this was a known issue and a fix will be getting sent out at some point. - Though there is a possibility that she was just trying to get rid of me. Whatever I asked, she just said yes.
I'd love to hear from other folks who feel that the HOX+ is working flawlessly for them. No problems at all? Thanks!
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Whenever I am on LTE, the GPS works flawlessly. I determined I only have problems on wifi networks.
most android GPS has some dependencies on the interwebs. Time to acquire fix depends quite a bit on having the right time (meaning NTP). So if you just walked into a starbucks and picked up wifi but havent completed negotiating yet, GPS may be making an NTP query that will stall. That sort of thing. There are quite a few silly little situations that can make for long fix times.
For what it's worth, the HOX+ has pretty fantastic GPS on the whole. I threw on GPS for giggles, and got a fix in 4 seconds as measured by the app ("GPS Status on the market has a "time to fix" option). Initial error was 10m and quickly went down to 5m or so. I'm on the bottom story of a 2 story house with an attic, and not near a window. Compared to my old HTC Inspire (American Desire HD), it's fairly insane. This is through 100 year old wood and nails with zero line of sight to the sky, and a neighbor living above me. So if your GPS is skipping around in standard car/travel GPS situations, there may be another issue.

got lost in the boonies last night, and my phone was useless, yay

So i got lost last night in the middle of no where down in south jersey, of all places. Wound up in an area without tmobile access and I was trying to find my way back home. Go to my trusty GOOGLE MAPS which has always worked above and beyond compared to my garmin or magellan GPS. Type in the address to get back home to plot the route, and wala! "No network connection available, try again later". What an absolutely amazing load of crap this is. I come to find out that google maps no longer supports offline use.... now im told that you can cache small areas of the map in your phone but what the hell good is that if i somehow find myself in an area i havent cached? Really google?
Has anyone come up with a viable alternative to google maps?
copilot offers offline maps.
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jason4962 said:
copilot offers offline maps.
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It looks good but its only a 14 day free trial, then you have to buy it to get turn by turn navigation.
Spawne32 said:
So i got lost last night in the middle of no where down in south jersey, of all places. Wound up in an area without tmobile access and I was trying to find my way back home. Go to my trusty GOOGLE MAPS which has always worked above and beyond compared to my garmin or magellan GPS. Type in the address to get back home to plot the route, and wala! "No network connection available, try again later". What an absolutely amazing load of crap this is. I come to find out that google maps no longer supports offline use.... now im told that you can cache small areas of the map in your phone but what the hell good is that if i somehow find myself in an area i havent cached? Really google?
Has anyone come up with a viable alternative to google maps?
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You must've been in SOME boonie area. I know South Jersey at least has EDGE. Knowing from experience, I got lost in around the same area at night. My MyTouch 4G had a strong EDGE signal. Hopefully you don't go through that again. It sucks being lost, especially in a part that barely anyone travels to. Have you tried Mapquest?
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You must've been in SOME boonie area. I know South Jersey at least has EDGE. Knowing from experience, I got lost in around the same area at night. My MyTouch 4G had a strong EDGE signal. Hopefully you don't go through that again. It sucks being lost, especially in a part that barely anyone travels to. Have you tried Mapquest?
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lol i was lost in harrison twp, had to go 6 miles in the wrong direction before i found a signal, even with data roaming enabled i didnt get anything. I just downloaded mapfactor navigator, and im in the process of downloading 2 gigs worth of offline maps lol
I've been many areas in kansas and missouri and my phones useless. Actually at my house which tmobile said is a high coverage area its useless without wifi 100percent of the time
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Spawne32 said:
So i got lost last night in the middle of no where down in south jersey, of all places. Wound up in an area without tmobile access and I was trying to find my way back home. Go to my trusty GOOGLE MAPS which has always worked above and beyond compared to my garmin or magellan GPS. Type in the address to get back home to plot the route, and wala! "No network connection available, try again later". What an absolutely amazing load of crap this is. I come to find out that google maps no longer supports offline use.... now im told that you can cache small areas of the map in your phone but what the hell good is that if i somehow find myself in an area i havent cached? Really google?
Has anyone come up with a viable alternative to google maps?
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If you don't have a data signal, GPS is useless. Google Maps doesn't have pre-stored maps. The only functional offline mode it has is with predetermined grids that you set up when you have a connection. Do you have a pre paid plan? Post paid plan could have been helpful here since it allows roaming and there could have been another network in the area. Either way a regular GPS or a plain old map still should probably be in your as a backup
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psychoace said:
If you don't have a data signal, GPS is useless. Google Maps doesn't have pre-stored maps. The only functional offline mode it has is with predetermined grids that you set up when you have a connection. Do you have a pre paid plan? Post paid plan could have been helpful here since it allows roaming and there could have been another network in the area. Either way a regular GPS or a plain old map still should probably be in your as a backup
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Nah just a regular month to month plan.
i use gaia gps sometimes
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