Does anyone know if and when HTC unlocks their bootloaders what the difference will be from Revolutionary? Is S-OFF S-OFF either way? Did Revolutionary reengineer the bootloader? With HTC unlock is it just a matter of installing SU and its rooted?
Either way I'm now fully rooted with S-OFF thanks to Revolutionary! Just was curious what the differences will be and if HTC unlocked will be the way to go since the manufacturer put it out.
At this point, no one knows how HTC's unlock is going to work.
S-off is s-off
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Desire has Downgrade HBOOT, so you can return to stock completely. How is possible with complete access to the system to have pure HBOOT, aka not relocked? Can be the same be done with E3D as well?
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Desire has Downgrade HBOOT, so you can return to stock completely. How is possible with complete access to the system to have pure HBOOT, aka not relocked? Can be the same be done with E3D as well?
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If by "pure HBOOT, aka not relocked" you're meaning after "relocking" the bootloader having it NOT display "relocked", this is only possible using the Revolutionary method.
The official HTC unlock method does not allow this, at least on the CDMA version of the EVO 3D. On the GSM version, the limitation of the official unlock method can be bypassed, probably very similar to the Desire method by downgrading the Hboot, then using the revolutionary method.
If that isn't clear enough, or the question is different, please add more detail.
Hope that helps clarify!
Yes, I unlocked bootloader with HTC tool, then downgraded HBOOT and S-OFFed. After using both RUU and manual update, the "relock" status was back. Why?
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Yes, I unlocked bootloader with HTC tool, then downgraded HBOOT and S-OFFed. After using both RUU and manual update, the "relock" status was back. Why?
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The CDMA device doesn't have this option and that is generally the crowd I hear from the most. You're the first GSM user to confirm that after downgrading and being s-off with revolutionary, once bootloader is upgraded and re-locked, it will display as "relocked".
Off the top of my head, there aren't too many divergent paths to take, but more details to your process would help.
While running Revolutionary and S-OFF, directly upgrade either via RUU or flashing an updated bootloader. At this point, does the updated bootloader show Relocked?
If not, is the internal memory still unlocked? If so, is the internal memory locked?
Depending on this outcome, we can formulate the next steps. At this point, we would want to know:
1) what is displayed on the bootloader, locked, unlocked or relocked?
2) what is the *real* status of the internal memory, write protected or write unprotected?
The question really hangs on how the latest stock bootloader determines the lock, unlocked and relocked status which it displays. This can be considered fairly low level and there is not a lot of publicly posted information or research on this specific topic.
Any feedback or testing you want to provide would be help and informative! The CDMA version of the EVO 3D can't perform these tests, only the GSM version is able to downgrade, as far as we've seen.
Hope that helps!
Version of HBOOT is irrelevant, when I replace it with ship HBOOT it says *unlocked*, yet still S-OFF. Only ENG HBOOT will remove it, but after replacing it will bring it back.
But you gave me an idea. I'm going to try to replace HBOOT, then unlock it, S-OFF again and then to re-flash stock ROM.
EDIT: I still have access to NAND memory.
Yeah, that didn't help.
I have a theory that it must be something outside HBOOT.
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HI all! I want to know if downgrading HBOOT 1.53.007 is possible.
Before I did the OTA update I was able to downgrade my 1.49.0018 HBOOT to 1.49.007 using this method and to easily get S-OFF and unlock bootloader(http://mess-hall.co.uk/2012/04/rooting-htc-evo-3d-hboot-1-49-0018/).Also it was very easy for me to obtain S-ON and LOCKED using this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710033).
Now my question/s.If I do the same thing to this 1.53.007 HBOOT(put the PG86IMG.zip in the root of the sdcard and open phone in fastboot and let it flash):
1.will it downgrade my device to 1.49.007?
2.will it brick my device?
Can you suggest something else?I mean I want to obtain S-OFF and an unlocked bootloader BUT NOT WITH htcdev.com method.
THANKS!!!
1. No
2. No
I don't think there is a way without htcdev. I had to do it last night and searched all over for an alternative. I tried what you are suggesting as well, but it runs through the flash process in bootloader then nothing.
I bit the bullet in the end and went htc dev followed by the wire trick on io. Got hboot unlocked then soff then flashed an old stock to get hboot 1.47. Just in case I accidentally s-on at some point!
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HI! i rooted my device some time ago,when i had hboot 1.49.007 following this.after some time i had to unroot it because i had to take it into warranty(IN MY COUNTRY AN HTC PHONE IS WARRANTY VALID IF IT HAS A "LOCKED" BOOTLOADER{not relocked} AND S-ON).I simply made it "LOCKED" S-ON following this.
Now the question.My brother recently thought he wants to root but he has HBOOT 1.53.007(did the OTA).He doesn't want to lose his warranty since the phone is quite new(6 months old).As far as I seen yet there are only methods implying that you unlock the bootloader via htcdev.com .As far as I know that implies that you will have a "RELOCKED" bootloader forever.I also saw some htcdev unlock methods and after them downgrading to HBOOT 1.49.Is it possible to achive unlocked s-off and later,if he needs it,to achive locked s-on?
THANKS!
It is. Check the developement forum. Near the top there are some stickies on how to achieve s-off which is more reversible than HTCdev unlock method. Juaponutbear seems to be the easiest but that's just my opinion. As with any rooting method, these carry the risk of permanantly bricking your device. Read all the documentation before trying it.
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Hello
I previously had rooted my phone to gain access to some files, but now I'm looking to sell the handset. I want to sell it with the latest OTA update and unlocked.
When I was using this phone on a day to day basis, I had it unlocked and tried to have updates OTA but I found it didn't work. Fast forward today, I want to S-off my handset to unlock it to any network carriers but every method involves rooting. Is there a way around this and keep everything else the same? Can I S-off this as my HBoot says
******RELOCKED******
HBOOT 1.53.0007
Thanks
S-off is root I would think, but if you are talking about the HTC Dev unlock, then you wouldn't need to be s-off.
However I do recommend s-off if you are unlocked, it just makes everything run smoother.
I would say to root the phone to s-off and unlock it.Then downgrade your Hboot to 1.4 and flash one of the new 4.1.2 Jellybean roms, because in my opinion I don't think there will be anymore OTA's for the EVO 3D, other than radios probably. I just can't see Sprint pushing anything out past Jellybean for how old the phone is now, and how fast newer phones with a lot better hardware come out and just take over. but that's just my opinion
MY PHONE
HTC EVO 3D
S-OFF and UNLOCKED
ROM: Team D.I.R.T. Unofficial AOKP v3.3
KERNEL: ButteredToasT-RLS v13.6
HBOOT: 1.40.0000
RECOVERY: 4EXT Touch Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
In an effort to upgrade bootloader and software to be compatible with cm11.. I used vipeRUU to go from 1.12 bootloader to 2.09 bootloader with the 3.17.651.471 software, whats confusing me is bootloader still says ..Unlocked ..and S-off after running ruu ..bootloader has changed and so has the software... (i was Previously s-off via Lazy panda).. i was under the impression that this would un root and lock bootloader again.. i know that i now have lost root i know how to check that .. question is , is bootloader locked now as well?..tried rumrunner and moonshine to no avail, to get S-OFF .. and it needs to be unlocked for those exploits to work.. any ideas?
It will lock your bootloader and return the phone S-on if you chose those options in the menu when you first ran VipeRUU. If you're still S-off, then all you need to do is unlock the bootloader again unless it's showing unlocked. An easier route than what you chose would have been to update your Hboot to the Rumrunner Hboot, which takes less than a minute to do. You'll still need to update your firmware, since VipeRUU is a version behind what's currently out there. If you're S-on now, you'll need to unlock the bootloader and run Moonshine.
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ok .. i see what you're saying .... i just ran rum runner... and it seemed to do the trick im currently S-OFF hboot 2.09 with the 3.17.651.4 71 software.. was able to install twrp>>>..I think im good to go!?..>>>>> i shall now...FOAF..lol...btw Thanks!!!
Yep, you should be good to go now. Just make sure that you have Superuser privileges and all should be right with the world:thumbup:
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