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Who here feels exhausted the way I do about the unstable temp root that doesn't last very long. How far is teamwin from achieving permanent root?
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It'll be done when its done..I appreciate their progress and their efforts..They busted down the wall,now they will clean up the mess..Temp root isn't for me and I knew this coming in..I know there is progress being made and that's all I care about at the moment.
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BrianBaker said:
It'll be done when its done..I appreciate their progress and their efforts..They busted down the wall,now they will clean up the mess..Temp root isn't for me and I knew this coming in..I know there is progress being made and that's all I care about at the moment.
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I mean I absolutely understand the exploit they has accomplished and putting out a temp Root. Thank you for that by the way. I just want root already. There were so many things that I was doing with Og Evo. I just want that back.
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I mean I absolutely understand the exploit they has accomplished and putting out a temp Root. Thank you for that by the way. I just want root already. There were so many things that I was doing with Og Evo. I just want that back.
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Personally, I wouldn't rely on the EVO3D forum to stay abreast on news about rooting or anything. a certain Mod killed the developers desire to stick around here.
head over to the Sensation area, and you'll find that people have found ways to make the root stick 100% until actual reboot occurs and so on. that is where I'm staying up to date.
My temp root lasts until I reboot. I used the script found in the developers section and so far I've maintained root all day. At least, Titanium Backup works everytime I fire it up.
Damn you fools are impatient huh? lol
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Damn you fools are impatient huh? lol
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Big time!! We had temp root and word of a coming permanent root within a week of release. These devs are working hard and fast. Let's not forget these people also have personal lives outside of messing around with a phone.....
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This technically should not be called "Temp Root", in a traditional sense.
Perhaps "Momentary Root"
I would be satisfied with the Traditional Temp root since 99% of my need for it is just to run Hot Spot and I don't care if it's a few clicks.
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This technically should not be called "Temp Root", in a traditional sense.
Perhaps "Momentary Root"
I would be satisfied with the Traditional Temp root since 99% of my need for it is just to run Hot Spot and I don't care if it's a few clicks.
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You can always use pdanet for now.
Wht happen to unreovled did they give up
I didn't bother with temp root, not for me.
I do watch the sensation forum for real info due to the douche bag that ruined the chance to watch progress here.
I haven't really messed with it too much either. I'm just happy to see the progress coming so quickly. I thought it would be a while before we saw anything resembling root.
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considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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I doubt HTC will beat them... And they want the best user experience and simplicity vs fast release, less features, and not user friendly (for dem noobletz)
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issafram said:
considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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Our bootloader is still write protected......So, even though we have the eng. loader from the early system dump, it still can't be flashed over the one that we have without cracking the write protection first.
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Our bootloader is still write protected......So, even though we have the eng. loader from the early system dump, it still can't be flashed over the one that we have without cracking the write protection first.
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That is interesting. Because root should allow you to change permissions. Getting temp root was the last hurdle at one point in xhausx's thread in the dev forum and the irc chats. Unless this "temp root" is really limited? I dunno
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That is interesting. Because root should allow you to change permissions. Getting temp root was the last hurdle at one point in xhausx's thread in the dev forum and the irc chats. Unless this "temp root" is really limited? I dunno
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That was my understanding as well based on other android phones, however it seems HTC has substantially changed the design of the phone. I have followed a few of the developement threads, post for post since their inceptions and it turns out this is something entirely new that our devs are having to deal with. Sorry I can't find a link to where it was referenced......If someone could and post it that would be great.
Found it. This is copy & pasted from RVDigital's Faq sheet in the developement section:
What about S-OFF?
20:10 <@agrabren> Short of "where are we at for s-off".
20:10 <@joshua_> Sure. This device is eMMC, and also has a signed bootloaer. This means that S-OFF is a ways further out than just soft root.
20:11 <@joshua_> I can answer from my experience working closely with the AlphaRev X team that S-OFF on Sensation is goign to be harder than previous devices we've worked with.
20:11 <@joshua_> I think EVO 3D is very similar to Sensation, so I suspect the same to be true there.
20:11 <@joshua_> Someone asked me what eMMC is: Older phones (EVO 4G) are based on NAND flash; eMMC is a different type of flash.
20:12 <@joshua_> eMMC has different types of write protection that we haven't worked with before.
20:12 <@agrabren> And we plan to work together to solve some of these issues.
20:14 <@joshua_> (We've all been working pretty closely on this, including scotty.)
20:14 <@agrabren> you think this particular exploit will eventually lead to s-off, or is it too early to tell?
20:14 <@agrabren> (Sending this one to joshua_
20:15 <@joshua_> agrabren, the AlphaRevX exploit requires userspace root, and that was one of the big things holding it back on gbread
20:22 <@agrabren> Joshua: whats the difference between unlocked and s-off?
20:22 <@joshua_> S-OFF, unlocked, etc are fuzzy terms, especially now that we are on eMMC.
20:23 <@joshua_> S-OFF used to refer to a specific configuration in which the radio told hboot that it was "OK" to flash anything it wanted, essentially.
20:23 <@joshua_> (It also would refer to an ENG hboot.)
20:23 <@joshua_> On eMMC, that state no longer exists.
20:24 <@joshua_> unlocked is not really a term that applies to CDMA phones; in general, it refers to the ability to put a SIM card from a differnet carrier into your phone. the "NAND lock", or write protection, or anything like that does apply, and refers to being able to write /system
20:24 <@joshua_> (I think that's needed for Cyanogen.)
Team Win seemed pretty confident about releasing s-off to the masses or whatever. They made temp root sound like it ****s up your phone at one point. I hate having to use an exploit when ****ing htc can just release it to us in an official ota. I dont understand why they are waiting. Bunch of **** suckers. I really wish Team Win didnt tell everyone they had temp root so that HTC would still have more pressure on them. DONT FLAME BECAUSE OF MY OPINION!
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issafram said:
considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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IMHO you should code one yourself or stop complaining
E3D
After patiently awaiting s-off so that I can install custom roms, splash screens boot animations etc. I find it ironic that HTC doesn't, in part, want the bootloader unlocked so that people won't screw up their phones. In the mean time, our ADD minds have gone the safe route by...
Pulling out T5 torque wrenches to disassemble our phones to change home key color
Tearing the phone apart to repaint it
Playing with QPST which is not a toy at all (talk about f-ing your phone up) to remove the Sprint banner or change the volume
Using PC's to rip out your MSL key to change Wimax or 3G settings (which is much easier to do now thanks to XDA)
Back to QPST... Changing the PRL if we don't like the new one.
Re-rooting 40x when ad free fails (and it does work just glitchy)
Don't get me wrong, all of these ideas are awesome and I have done all except the physical assault on my 3VO... If s-off isn't here soon, Radio Shack here I come! I need all the wrenches and tape and paint you got.
not this again.
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not this again.
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Lol. I hit the save button on that one.
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At this point I don't think anyone cares anymore who is taking their phone back because there's no s-off or some random minor imperfection, and then starting a thread about it explaining why.
Ok, I can see how the post would read the way you took it. My point was more that the xda community is innovative, creative and curious. And when handcuffed by a bootloader, we find other avenues to fill the void. I think its cool as hell. Like kids trapped inside on a rainy day without their xbox. It wasnt a hurry up s-off rant. But it was an observation that some of this stuff is a lot more dangerous than flashing
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Alpharev and team win found s-off, y u no share with world selfish bastards! :rolls eyes:
But for real IPHONE 5 ON SPRINT FTW (hondacop voice)
Ill run the s-off when there's a worthy ROM I can flash. I might wait a week to see what the feedback is before I take the plunge.
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Alpharev and team win found s-off, y u no share with world selfish bastards! :rolls eyes:
But for real IPHONE 5 ON SPRINT FTW (hondacop voice)
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Hondacop FTW!!
And Y U No join huddle yetz?
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After patiently awaiting s-off so that I can install custom roms, splash screens boot animations etc. I find it ironic that HTC doesn't, in part, want the bootloader unlocked so that people won't screw up their phones. In the mean time, our ADD minds have gone the safe route by...
Pulling out T5 torque wrenches to disassemble our phones to change home key color
Tearing the phone apart to repaint it
Playing with QPST which is not a toy at all (talk about f-ing your phone up) to remove the Sprint banner or change the volume
Using PC's to rip out your MSL key to change Wimax or 3G settings (which is much easier to do now thanks to XDA)
Back to QPST... Changing the PRL if we don't like the new one.
Re-rooting 40x when ad free fails (and it does work just glitchy)
Don't get me wrong, all of these ideas are awesome and I have done all except the physical assault on my 3VO... If s-off isn't here soon, Radio Shack here I come! I need all the wrenches and tape and paint you got.
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I already bricked one . But randy if you're not satisfied with waiting, no one is stopping you from learning some code and the 3vo schematics. You can help contribute in the development section for beta testing various ideas and attacks on the bootloader. It helps pass the time lol
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Ill run the s-off when there's a worthy ROM I can flash. I might wait a week to see what the feedback is before I take the plunge.
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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I already bricked one . But randy if you're not satisfied with waiting, no one is stopping you from learning some code and the 3vo schematics. You can help contribute in the development section for beta testing various ideas and attacks on the bootloader. It helps pass the time lol
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Hell yeah, bring those new wrenches , paint and tape and dig in.
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Have done all of above LOL. No brick no nada, just simple perfection with a lil customization
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For the love of all that is HOLY... I am not returning my phone!!! Where did I ever say that??? I learned how to do many things because of the locked bootloader. QPST etc. Things I never would have learned if I was constantly flashing new roms, keyboards changing boot animations... I'm not asking for a hurry up to s-off, I will wait as long as it takes. All I trying to point out, and failing miserabley, in our spare time some of us are doing things to our phones that can screw them up way more than flashing and copy pasting in system/customize/resource. I haven't bricked my phone once and am enjoying playing with the new ideas and programs I never knew were out there. ****, if I was going to cry about phone returns and alpharev crap I'd go to facebook
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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For the love of all that is HOLY... I am not returning my phone!!! Where did I ever say that??? I learned how to do many things because of the locked bootloader. QPST etc. Things I never would have learned if I was constantly flashing new roms, keyboards changing boot animations... I'm not asking for a hurry up to s-off, I will wait as long as it takes. All I trying to point out, and failing miserabley, in our spare time some of us are doing things to our phones that can screw them up way more than flashing and copy pasting in system/customize/resource. I haven't bricked my phone once and am enjoying playing with the new ideas and programs I never knew were out there. ****, if I was going to cry about phone returns and alpharev crap I'd go to facebook
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I guess they didn't see the "radio shack here I come I'm gonna need all the tape screwdriver etc" part. Lmao. Mabey the radio shack part threw them off. But man this was funny as hell. I had a mental picture of you with the "wtf" face on.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/unrevoked/status/94186767070142464
Not that this is definitive, of course- just speculation. I don't mind waiting though- the 3d is still the best phone I've ever owned.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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I thought your heart was set on the next Samsung and how its gonna blow the e3d and any other HTC out of the water, or was that someone else.
Ill be a waiting as long as it takes. This phone is more than worth it. Can't rush a thing of beauty it takes time.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/unrevoked/status/94186767070142464
Not that this is definitive, of course- just speculation. I don't mind waiting though- the 3d is still the best phone I've ever owned.
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Well this junk goes back tuesday.I have a free photon coming on tuesday from sprint to test and keep and after that i get a real phone the SGS2.
this whole ordeal has turned me off.First it was HTC and all the posting asking when when when and then we get a youtube video of S-OFF but since it has been dead.
This phone is nothing special.The screen looks just like the evo if you hold them side by side.Ill be glad to send it back and wait for a real phone.
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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I ment a week after freedom (or whatever its called) drops just to see the feedback just in case there was some unanticipated problems.
well i finnaly got sick of being throttled by t-mobile. so i decided to go out and buy myself an evo 3d. seeing as how it was the same thing as my htc sensation for the most part. got it home, come to find out some stupid update that i didnt even do prevent me from using the revolutionary method to get s-off. soo i went to the htc site and found out how to unlock the bootloader. after about 2 hours of bull ****ting. and like 3 hours of just downloads (thanks to t mobile for throttled data) i got that. but s is still not off. wtf mates?! if there is any way to get s-off like i had on my sensation let me know please!!
thanks, and hope to make friends with the evo 3d peps like i did the sensation, and vibrant peps!
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Sorry, man.
You won't be able to get S-off after using the HTC ethod BUT!, big BUT! :
You can still accomplish everything you'd want to, root-wise.
There are workarounds for everything, that work.
So you'll still be able to Flash a custom Rom, a kernel, a Radio, with full root...
You just have to do a couple of more simple steps and use the bootloader for a couple things. There are threads in the Dev section that can walk you through it. (edit: like this one, lol:http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...Recovery + Root + Flash Ur Ass Off! [9.11.11]
So basically the S-on you see isn't really that "on" as you might've initially thought.
That's a good thing, man.
LIKES:
drinking water, smoking flower, and avoiding the giant.
yeah.
I'd rather not use the htc method at all. I liked the ability to just flash custom roms or kernels from my phone and not have to be attached to the computer.
HTCs method allows things to be done. Its just not a great way of doing it.
I'm hoping that alpharevx and unrevoked are continuing to work on updates to the revolutionary tool they released earlier this year.
yea true that. im tempted to do an insurance claim on it. just get a new one and start over
how would you go about doing an insurance claim?
I had mine replaced in store last week, ended up with 1.5
enjoy the wait..
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Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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sand1303 said:
Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
I personally feel they will release and updated version of Revolutionary . The only reason I say this is mainly due to two factors . One I have seen numerous posts regarding the HTC method not working all the time and having to RUU the phone back just for the damn thing will work . Second more and more phones are now showing up with 1.50 Hboot on them . 1.30 and 1.40 is now quickly becoming a thing of the past . Just like with unrevoked an eventual exploit will be found and hopefully Revolutionary will update accordingly . Hopefully .
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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Totaly agree. I love using rooted phones. I'm just saying that it is not anything I can't wait on.
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I like running all the different ROMs people have posted here.
Stock is nice and I do like sense. But I also like running CM7. I liked several of the custom ROMs.
root is good too
Wonder if next revolutionary will be released with next TWRP? just guessing....
Save your insurance claim. Everything will work out, as long as you can be patient. It's $100 incentive, basically, if you have Sprint's insurance.
So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.
But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.
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you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.
so i assume the way everything has been going we will get it in 2 months
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-deliver-jelly-bean-and-sense-4-upgrade-one-s-x-and-xl-month
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Even if we get it, I'm still not not updating. Not until I have S-OFF...
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Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Very cool! Can't wait for JB! Sad how the OneX+ doesn't have 2gb Ram and 1080p screen....
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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The LTE threshold issue on the EVO LTE.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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So that is why I wake up every morning with a sandwich next to my bed!
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shook187 said:
Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing people as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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bog3nator said:
people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
eXplicit815 said:
Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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bog3nator said:
So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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I get what you're saying. But my preference is to have S-OFF. I don't have to update right now. I'm sitting on 1.15, and just waiting. Granted, there are features that I'm looking for from Jelly Bean that I want to have, which is why I want to root my phone. But, if Jelly Bean comes before we get an S-OFF method, then I may just update and let it go to whatever is there. I'd prefer to have S-OFF though. That's how I've gone with my EVO 3D, so I'm accustomed to that method.
I understand, it is "easier" but there are a lot of people on xda now thinking it us the end if the world ... All I want people to understand is that there are work arounds. To each their own
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I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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scottspa74 said:
I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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The fact that HTC has updated the HBoot 3 times since the release of the phone doesn't make things difficult. If anything, it would indicate that HTC is finding holes in their HBoot, and just patching them as they update the software. There are a lot of people sitting on 1.15 right now waiting for something to happen. I'm sure there's someone working on cracking it, it's just a matter of time, and how many people are possibly working on it. I'd like to think that there is someone working on it, but it's still not being put out there that it actually is by anyone. That's what people are all up in arms about.
Not necessarily, they may be adding extra support for in-house development, adding support for extra hardware, or they could be just cleaning up the code from the last update