So I have a custom ROM uploaded on my x10 but I see some others I would like to try. I have Titanium Backup but I am having trouble with it. When I switch the the new ROM will it keep all my apps or will it just keep the .apk so I can install them all again? I have a lot of apps so if there is a way it will keep them all installed as well as contacts that would be awesome. Any help would be awesome, thanks!
Use xrecovery to backup and restore and everything will stay the same.
I just tried that and noticed it leaves it just where i left off, awesome but now I am wondering if I install a new ROM will all my apps/data still be installed?
They will be wiped... but when you reflash your backup, they will be back...
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niqjones10 said:
So I have a custom ROM uploaded on my x10 but I see some others I would like to try. I have Titanium Backup but I am having trouble with it. When I switch the the new ROM will it keep all my apps or will it just keep the .apk so I can install them all again? I have a lot of apps so if there is a way it will keep them all installed as well as contacts that would be awesome. Any help would be awesome, thanks!
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I assume what you want to do is flash a different ROM then re-install all your apps + data within that new ROM?? Titanium will easily allow you to do this, just click menu>batch>backup all user apps + system data. That will allow you to restore all your apps and data by running the batch restore after booting in the new ROM. Once you do that and verify your apps are working etc, I recommend backing up with xrecovery because that makes switching between ROMs a lot easier.
Hopefully that helps you out.
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I assume what you want to do is flash a different ROM then re-install all your apps + data within that new ROM?? Titanium will easily allow you to do this, just click menu>batch>backup all user apps + system data. That will allow you to restore all your apps and data by running the batch restore after booting in the new ROM. Once you do that and verify your apps are working etc, I recommend backing up with xrecovery because that makes switching between ROMs a lot easier.
Hopefully that helps you out.
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That is exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you very much for the help!
niqjones10 said:
That is exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you very much for the help!
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Be cautious though some apps will crash when restored from one Rom to another to be sure restore one at time, or just install the app I used my back up root free from market
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Been reading for 2 weeks now. Here's what I have come up with and would appreciate help. Have ADB, rooted Tbolt. Know how to work with ADB. Have Titanium Backup, have run backup all user apps and system data. Downloaded perfect storm rom. Know how to put that on.
Question is this. Before I put on the new rom.. If I want to go back to original rom do I just go to titanium backup and do a restore? OR am I missing something? Sorry for this if it's somewhere in the forums. I can't find all this in one! Thx
fredspierson said:
Been reading for 2 weeks now. Here's what I have come up with and would appreciate help. Have ADB, rooted Tbolt. Know how to work with ADB. Have Titanium Backup, have run backup all user apps and system data. Downloaded perfect storm rom. Know how to put that on.
Question is this. Before I put on the new rom.. If I want to go back to original rom do I just go to titanium backup and do a restore? OR am I missing something? Sorry for this if it's somewhere in the forums. I can't find all this in one! Thx
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You do back ups and restores in the recovery system. Reboot to recovery and then navigate to backup and restore
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And that takes you back to the original rom just like before you changed rom? Thx
Yes. This is a full backup (including kernel, ROM, data, etc).
How to use the recovery
Hey guys I was just wondering if there's any way to root without wiping. I have way too many apps (with settings that are too specific and games that I've gone too far in). I'm not that new to the whole rooting thing (I had a rooted Motorola Droid) but any help would be appreciated.
NO... there is absolutely no way
Hmm so is there a way to backup apps (with their settings and everything) so I can restore them after I wipe and root?
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Hmm so is there a way to backup apps (with their settings and everything) so I can restore them after I wipe and root?
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No way to do that.
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Sure there is buy the full titanium backup and learn how to use its backup feature
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I don't think there is a way. Even temp rooted, I couldn't get much of anything to work so I highly doubt Titanium Backup can do anything.
Titanium backup cant do anything without root. Im looking for a way to back everything up? does anyone have a solution? Mostly the cyanogen mod/system settings and installed apps.
Would an SD Card or Flash Drive work for backing up his stuff?
I have a quick question. If i backup my Data partition with 4EXT before S-OFF and obtaining ICS, will i be able to reflash it and have all my apps and app data on the new ROM? I read that a few people tried it with success, but wanted to make sure, because redownloading all these apps and losing their data would SUCK. Thanks, guys!
no, use titanium backup for app and data backup...
Cool, thanks for the reply.
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Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
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JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
pool_shark said:
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
airbus318 said:
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.