so i installed FW S5830XWKPN and flashed cf-root b78 and b80 and also deodexed it with an0nym0us_'s update.zip and when i installed a2sdgui, i can see, SWAP ENABLED. is this for real? or am i seeing a visual bug?
Yes it's true, if you have swap partition on SD card with dtapps2sd installed and enabled in Tweaks. But it's not enough without a kernel with swap support
ketut.kumajaya said:
Yes it's true, if you have swap partition on SD card with dtapps2sd installed and enabled in Tweaks. But it's not enough without a kernel with swap support
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oh. so the cf-root b80 that you made enabled the swap for us?
EDIT. one more thing master ketut. what do you think is the best swap value? i tried searching and some say it's 60. some say it 10-15. i have a class 10 8gb micro sd with 256mb swap partition. what could you suggest?
Swap run go on newest coderom with b80?
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joryS5830 said:
Swap run go on newest coderom with b80?
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can someone tell me what is swap for? I have read some but I dont really get it. Thanks.
BrNoMen said:
can someone tell me what is swap for? I have read some but I dont really get it. Thanks.
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Swap is an extension of your phone or PC's RAM. That means the linux swap is in a pc, a part of your hard disk will be used as RAM.
So for phones, a part of SD card will be used as RAM. This is good for those who have a class 6+ SD cards.
Yes it's true, if you have swap partition on SD card with dtapps2sd installed and enabled in Tweaks. But it's not enough without a kernel with swap support
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So does that mean that as long as the kernel itself doesn't support swap, it doesn't matter whether the GUI recognizes the Swap partition since it wont be able to use it anyway?
Which leaves the question, does the CF-Root kernel support Swap?
Tap-a-talked from my Galaxy Ace
What is the ideal size for Swap partition? I have 16GB Micro SD Card (Class 10). Please help.
as far as I know, value of swappiness is set to 0-100. which mean if you set value to 0, the phone will prevent to use your swap, and if you set to 100, your phone will force to use more swap instead your ram. Now I'm using my swappiness to 50
up to you how big partition swap size is. I was checked on A2SD GUI and it's never use >50MB swap. So I think 40-80MB is good enough for you.
sorry for my bad english
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When you make partition in your SD card, you must know the maximum size for the partition. I tried to googling it (it's hard to find the best information) and finally, i got informations about it.
(IMPORTANT) For best performance, use SD Card with class 10!
For ext4, it has maximum size 2GB.
For swap, it has maximum size depends on your RAM and multiplied it by 2. ACE has (256MB) so the best swap size is about 400-512MB.
I've tried by myself, i have SDCard 8GB and i make partition for ext4 system 1.8GB and swap size about 496MB and it works fine, i've no problem with my SD Card.
You can check my Customization in this link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446992
This thread is just an info. Sorry if this is repost.
PS : If anyone find out the wrong things about the size number, please let me know. Thanks
Regards,
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Swap shouldn't be used unless you have a godly sdcard
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Swap shouldn't be used unless you have a godly sdcard
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Thanks for your info. I just edited the post, more detail about the SD card class that should be use.
Well..Using swap is ok,but some people has had problems with their ace when they used swap partition..So,its recommended not to use it
Prawesome said:
Well..Using swap is ok,but some people has had problems with their ace when they used swap partition..So,its recommended not to use it
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What kind of problem? I think if you make partition your SD card with right step, there will be no problem about it. So far, this swap function is truly increase my performance.
I think you should say that Swap partition is only for Darktremor script's users because I use S2E tool for moving apps to my SD card instead and I can't use a swap partition in my system!
Also, thank you very much for your info!
gbueno6 said:
I think you should say that Swap partition is only for Darktremor script's users because I use S2E tool for moving apps to my SD card instead and I can't use a swap partition in my system!
Also, thank you very much for your info!
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when using dtapp2sd and a2sdgui, I can see the swap partition status.
now I am using S2E and freespace, I can not see the swap partition usage. no idea it is used but can not see the status, or it is not used.
Originally Posted by Prawesome
Well..Using swap is ok,but some people has had problems with their ace when they used swap partition..So,its recommended not to use it
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I have problem stuck on 'ANDROID' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450562. but not sure what cause it
now I have additional problem: Market error 492. and some time it can download, but will restart when installing. some application force close. different application force close after restarting.
Hello, i have PX recovery4. I make partition 2gb ext4 and 256mb swap with px recovery. How to set above 256mb with recovery? How to check swap works?
adamziomal said:
Hello, i have PX recovery4. I make partition 2gb ext4 and 256mb swap with px recovery. How to set above 256mb with recovery? How to check swap works?
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Hi adamziomal, you could configure and check swap with this free app: Swapper 2 (for Root users) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
Cheers. Good luck.
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BajoPrimate said:
Hi adamziomal, you could configure and check swap with this free app: Swapper 2 (for Root users) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
Cheers. Good luck.
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The app has somehow formatted my phone. :/
gouthamgmv said:
The app has somehow formatted my phone. :/
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Hi gouthamgmv, I'm using it for more than two years and all goes like a charm.
Sorry for your troubles.
Good luck.
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Hi to All !!
this is an aplication for make swap in your device but
what is swap?
swapper is an application that uses part of the SD memory to generate more virtual memory and see your performance improve
THIS NO WORK ON STOCK KERNEL YOU NEED UNLOCK BOOTLOADER AND YES THIS WORKS IN CM7 AND CM9 YOU DON'T HAVE TO PARTITION THE SD CARD
instructions to install:
download swapper from here
screenshot
after install the app, launch the app and writes on the white line of what you want your swap, remember that selecting an amount doubles for example: You CHOOSE 300 mb of memory, those 300 will become 600 and 400 to 800 and on
screenshot]
when the swap is this turning takes 5 to 10 minutes and NOT TURN OFF THE SCREEN WHY THE PROCESS CAN LEAVE BAD
remember that you must deactivate the swap to connect the USB cable and then turn it back on, disconnect the phone also restart is disabled, enter only put "deactivate swap" and put "save", then re-enter and to "activate swap "and" save "
also if you have a 4GB SD memory of 300 MB is recommended to 600 if the device is not encouraging, and 8GB of 300 to 800, I use 700 MB for swap and is very fast
before swap
with swap
IF YOU HAVE MINICM9 GO TO SETTINGS - PERFORMANCE - MEMORY MANAGEMENT AND DISABLE ZRAM
sorry for the images.... i don't know how put a preview but is there
That's what I was looking for.
To use this application, I'll need to partition my SD Card?
Sorry for my bad English.
alinefds said:
That's what I was looking for.
To use this application, I'll need to partition my SD Card?
Sorry for my bad English.
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no, just choose the amount of mb that you used and go!
xperia_pro said:
no, just choose the amount of mb that you used and go!
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Is there a difference between this mode and another that asks to partition?
And what is the difference between swapper and swapper 2?
Excuse me for asking too many questions, but I'm with many doubts.
alinefds said:
Is there a difference between this mode and another that asks to partition?
And what is the difference between swapper and swapper 2?
Excuse me for asking too many questions, but I'm with many doubts.
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yes this only is for virtual memory, and the others is for apps to sd
well..... swapper 2 for me is more stable than swapper 2 for me cuases various FC'S
xperia_pro said:
yes this only is for virtual memory, and the others is for apps to sd
well..... swapper 2 for me is more stable than swapper 2 for me cuases various FC'S
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I think I'm beginning to understand.
Thanks for your help.
alinefds said:
I think I'm beginning to understand.
Thanks for your help.
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no D: im so sorry i'm refer than swapper is more stable than swapper 2 sorry.. remember if i hlep you press the thanks button
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no D: im so sorry i'm refer than swapper is more stable than swapper 2 sorry.. remember if i hlep you press the thanks button
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Okay, I figured it rs
This work? The Swapper on playstore no work...
Cloulu said:
This work? The Swapper on playstore no work...
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yes just follow the instructions and see the screenshots
But swap file should have bigger swappiness, "Swapper" gives only 10, which is almost nothing IMO... unless you can find something to activate bigger swappiness (except Swapper 2, it's pain in ass).
Note: You need to disable Compcache/zRAM as those features use swap too, causing conflicts. After enabling swap, make sure to check in some app where you can see memory details that swap is running on your defined size, it might be possible that there's no swap space or that zRAM/Compcache is still active instead.
I don't understand, i activate the swap( like you said) but, my memory free is just 28mb... i make a swap of 512mb( 16gb SD Card)...
Why?
To see if it works you need to type 'free' in terminal emulator. AFAIK swap must be supported by kernel and some custom kernels support it.
making swap using cwm
i am telling you another way of making swap without the swapper app
AND PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR SDCARD ON YOUR PC BEFORE USING THIS METHOD
for this you must have clockworkmod recovery on your phone
just go to cwm recovery by pressing back botton when starting the phone
then go to ‘advance‘ using vol down key and press menu to enter then go to ‘partition sd card‘ and make partition of your choice
to confirm open ‘terminal emulator‘ and write ‘free‘ hit enter
yuppyyy you got
and please make a back of your sd card on computer as this will format your sd card
press the thanks botton if you think i helped you
Tom.K said:
But swap file should have bigger swappiness, "Swapper" gives only 10, which is almost nothing IMO... unless you can find something to activate bigger swappiness (except Swapper 2, it's pain in ass).
Note: You need to disable Compcache/zRAM as those features use swap too, causing conflicts. After enabling swap, make sure to check in some app where you can see memory details that swap is running on your defined size, it might be possible that there's no swap space or that zRAM/Compcache is still active instead.
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you have all the reason, the app for check is setcpu in info-memory, or terminal emulator typing "free"
Cloulu said:
I don't understand, i activate the swap( like you said) but, my memory free is just 28mb... i make a swap of 512mb( 16gb SD Card)...
Why?
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use setcpu in INFO--MEMORY and check "swap" and "swapfree", or in terminal emulator typing "free"
this is very nice
keep it up
Does not work with MiniCM7-2.2.0/ nAa-11
Swap size is 0 size in shell "free" command
charos said:
Does not work with MiniCM7-2.2.0/ nAa-11
Swap size is 0 size in shell "free" command
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In your config you can either use compcache or swap. If you want swap it's easiest to create swap partition via cwm recovery (backup content of sd first!) and disable compcache via cm settngs
charos said:
Does not work with MiniCM7-2.2.0/ nAa-11
Swap size is 0 size in shell "free" command
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uh? but i tested in minicm7 2.2.0 and works very fine what is the size of your memory and what you put in the line?
Good morning, I'm new in rom and kernel flashing: I started a week ago looking for a trick to increase the internal memory of my xperia ray.
I read a lot in forums, I've also tried to follow suggestions on how to create ext partitions on the sd card in order to increase internal memory, but nothing!
Only a lot of problems inrom/kernel incompatibility, bootloops... quite frustating.
Now I'm using ROM Ultimate HD 3.0.2, and CTcaer 2.6 Kernel.
But my final goal is to increase the internal memory with a part of my sd card (Samsung 16GB class 10).
Any suggestions? I tried int2extv2+, but the memory size didn't changed. Maybe I'm using a wrong kernel.
Please help.
Thank you very much
have u try link2sd
because i use it quite long time and its really help me to free my internal memory
and u need to create a partition on ur sd card
deathbychoco said:
have u try link2sd
because i use it quite long time and its really help me to free my internal memory
and u need to create a partition on ur sd card
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I'll try to use it, but I'd like to understand which is the difference between using link2sd or a script in the init.d, if there is a difference in performance.
Thank you.
jeanluc13 said:
I'll try to use it, but I'd like to understand which is the difference between using link2sd or a script in the init.d, if there is a difference in performance.
Thank you.
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for me actually never use script and didn't know about it
and at my point of view the difference of performance is in sd card class u use
deathbychoco said:
for me actually never use script and didn't know about it
and at my point of view the difference of performance is in sd card class u use
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Installed link2sd... atg the beginning I had some problems: link2sd wasn't able to create scripts; after fixing access permissions all worked properly.
Just one question: is there a limit for the ext partiotion size?
Thank you
would like to know that too!
i install android 4.0.4 bulid num .587
root it
how to can increase rom?
u can't.
hamed_forum said:
i install android 4.0.4 bulid num .587
root it
how to can increase rom?
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you cant...
but try an other rom....
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You can't increase ram or internel storage.
But you can create ext partition and link apps there via link2SD
And you may try to use swap partition if you want.
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Mysteryagr said:
You can't increase ram or internel storage.
But you can create ext partition and link apps there via link2SD
And you may try to use swap partition if you want.
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you think this work is good?
hamed_forum said:
you think this work is good?
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Yes, follow the instructions on http://www.link2sd.info/description
:good:
Of course you can
Just go to this website
Regards
N
i have 8gig memory whats your recommand?1 gig fat 7gig ext3?
which better
hamed_forum said:
i have 8gig memory whats your recommand?1 gig fat 7gig ext3?
which better
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ext3 partition, I use 250 MB is enough beside the internal memory
Mysteryagr said:
ext3 partition, I use 250 MB is enough beside the internal memory
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thank you use 250 fat and other ext3 ?
swap 0?
hamed_forum said:
thank you use 250 fat and other ext3 ?
swap 0?
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i use ext-sd partition here put my apps
hamed_forum said:
thank you use 250 fat and other ext3 ?
swap 0?
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Man. it is so easy.
Just create a small ext3 partition to link your apps there.
You need your SD card to be fat primary partition ( except some MBs to be ext3 partition. )
Use mini tool partition wizard or do it from the recovery which will be easier for you.
and swap is not so important , set it to zero if you want.
27gb fat32 1gb for ext2.. Fast as hell and heaven.. I got 270-300++ internal memory.. 200mb ram.. Feel like trying swap but i scared my sd dead.. Hoho
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Mysteryagr said:
Man. it is so easy.
Just create a small ext3 partition to link your apps there.
You need your SD card to be fat primary partition ( except some MBs to be ext3 partition. )
Use mini tool partition wizard or do it from the recovery which will be easier for you.
and swap is not so important , set it to zero if you want.
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is 256 mb enough for ext3?
i have 8gig memory
i install recovery from recovery menu can partion memory
hamed_forum said:
is 256 mb enough for ext3?
i have 8gig memory
i install recovery from recovery menu can partion memory
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Hmmm....you need to make 3 partition for your SD card if you want to use swap.....
First partition is FAT32 (must be primary) this partition is for your main storage....
Second partition is ext2,ext3 or ext 4 (must be primary) this partition is for install apps that link using link2SD or Mount2SD....
Third partition is Linux Swap....this partition is for swap (increase ram/performances)
Now all partition size you will make is depend on how you want it....basically 256mb for linux swap is enough but 512mb is recommended is you have SD sizes 16GB and above....for second partition 1GB is enough for installing apps....if you planing to install plenty of apps then 2GB is recommended only if you SD sizes is 16GB and above....for the first partition is what sizes left after your make all partition needed....
remember Swap will not be available right after you have partition is....you need swap scripts to make is available....
Can i add ext 3 without formatting my sd??? Coz i just created fat32 and ext2 last month.. And theres alot of files.. And my pc is slow like hell when format.. So can i simply add ext3 now????? Reply asap!
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alvster said:
Can i add ext 3 without formatting my sd??? Coz i just created fat32 and ext2 last month.. And theres alot of files.. And my pc is slow like hell when format.. So can i simply add ext3 now????? Reply asap!
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Nope.....you SD need to be formatted if you want to add other partition...beside adding partition means that your main partition (FAT32) sizes will be reduces...
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Of course you can increase ram performance by increasing swap and can increase your internal storage by partitioning your sd card, but might decrease the read or write speed of your system as sd card is not as fast as internal memory of your phone
For detailed information just google around
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first SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH . lol
im never login this account since 2 years ago.
to increase phone memory u can use application "LINK2SD" but, before u use it, i recommend u to make additional partition with ext2/4.
to increase ram maybe u can use with virtual ram. It not give big differents but for games it would be better.
i have MANUAL step to increase virtual memory ( such as adding secondary ram)
1. Download swap file ww*w.media*fire.c*om/?7pszmgi85sucuuc. Remove * . The password is "crescendo"
2. Extract it so from 800kb will be 800mb eace
3. Choose 1 from 3 files size for swap that u want ( up to you )
4. Copy file to /sdcard
5. U can type on "Terminal Emulator"
for example im using with 256mb size :
- to turned on swap
su
swapON sdcard/swap256
- to turned off swap
su
swapOFF sdcard/swap256
-) the green number can be changed and adjust it with size u want.
sorry if u dnt undestand. i cnt speak english well. lol
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Sup Yall.
Messing around with my new S4. For some reason I am already running out internal memory on the phone. Since I cant move any apps to the ext SD card yet..Im lost...never the less, I still bought a 64 gig class 10 card and put it in the phone. It won't read it. Just says Mount SD card. I try to do it and says the card is safe to remove.
How do I get this to work?
Verizon S4 Galaxy
CleanRom
Faux Kernel
Thanks,
J
Jay Slay said:
Sup Yall.
Messing around with my new S4. For some reason I am already running out internal memory on the phone. Since I cant move any apps to the ext SD card yet..Im lost...never the less, I still bought a 64 gig class 10 card and put it in the phone. It won't read it. Just says Mount SD card. I try to do it and says the card is safe to remove.
How do I get this to work?
Verizon S4 Galaxy
CleanRom
Faux Kernel
Thanks,
J
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The problem is in format of SDcard. Actually, Faux Kernel won't read exFat format, which is mostly used to format 64Gb storages. There two ways to fix it:
1. Flash Ktoonez kernel (KT-kernel) that supports exFat (just like stock kernel).
2. Find the way to format your SDcard into Fat32 format. There is utility named Fat32Format can be found on the Internet. Or, if you are on Mac - just select Fat format.
Zer0r said:
The problem is in format of SDcard. Actually, Faux Kernel won't read exFat format, which is mostly used to format 64Gb storages. There two ways to fix it:
1. Flash Ktoonez kernel (KT-kernel) that supports exFat (just like stock kernel).
2. Find the way to format your SDcard into Fat32 format. There is utility named Fat32Format can be found on the Internet. Or, if you are on Mac - just select Fat format.
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I have a Mac as well. Formatted it in like 2 seconds..Phone recognized it. You sir, are a true pimp...thanks! :good:
Can a windows 7 computer format a 64GB to fat32?
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Jay Slay said:
I have a Mac as well. Formatted it in like 2 seconds..Phone recognized it. You sir, are a true pimp...thanks! :good:
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caution, formatting 64gb cards in fat32 can cause data corruption over time. i recomend this mod. works on aosp and tw roms that have init.d support. i use it and works great for exfat support http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155363
Zer0r said:
The problem is in format of SDcard. Actually, Faux Kernel won't read exFat format, which is mostly used to format 64Gb storages. There two ways to fix it:
1. Flash Ktoonez kernel (KT-kernel) that supports exFat (just like stock kernel).
2. Find the way to format your SDcard into Fat32 format. There is utility named Fat32Format can be found on the Internet. Or, if you are on Mac - just select Fat format.
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I'm assuming the OP or new'ish member isn't aware of the 'Thanks' option/button. It's a way of showing your appreciation for another member willingly sharing valuable and or helpful info that specifically responds to your request for 'Help'.
I selected 'Thanks' for everyone who took the time to chime in and help the OP. Thanks for sharing...:good:
To the OP...no ill intent from me, simply want to help.
mach1man said:
Can a windows 7 computer format a 64GB to fat32?
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yes