I picked up an HTC desk dock today and may have found a pretty substantial security flaw.
If you dock the phone while it is locked, Dock Mode will automatically enable.
From the Dock Mode home screen simply click the small X in the left hand corner and it takes you to the regular desktop. No need to enter any security code...
Basically docking the phone over rides the security measures and opens the phone to anyone who might want to use it or access your information.
Is there a setting that I am missing???
If you REMOVE it from the dock, it remains in an unlocked state and is completely vulnerable.
Can someone else test this for me please. If there is no way to work around this, its definitely going back. I cant leave this thing on my desk unsecured.
I can't help you, but what are you trying to hide from your wife?
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I use app protector. Select the apps you don't want no one to access and it's done...it require a code unlock it. problem solved...
sandiegopaneraiguy said:
I picked up an HTC desk dock today and may have found a pretty substantial security flaw.
If you dock the phone while it is locked, Dock Mode will automatically enable.
From the Dock Mode home screen simply click the small X in the left hand corner and it takes you to the regular desktop. No need to enter any security code...
Basically docking the phone over rides the security measures and opens the phone to anyone who might want to use it or access your information.
Is there a setting that I am missing???
If you REMOVE it from the dock, it goes back to a locked state... but as long as it remains on the dock it is wide open.
Can someone else test this for me please. If there is no way to work around this, its definitely going back. I cant leave this thing on my desk unsecured.
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if you are leaving your phone in a location that require it to be secure with a lockscreen, I won't even leave my phone there AT ALL! people can always just take your phone and try to unlock it at their lesiure
EricSS619 said:
I can't help you, but what are you trying to hide from your wife?
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Im not trying to hide anything from my wife, she knows better than to access my phone, tablet or computer without my consent. I do work in a very competitive market that has pressured people in the past to do such things as steal contact lists, emails, etc.
It is also a secure floor in a building where only badged employees are allowed. So the idea of the phone disappearing is not very valid. If it suddenly disappeared off of my desk, there would be a complete lock down and no one would be going anywhere until it was located.
I will definitely check in to the app protector program. Thank you!
FYI, this dock: http://www.cellularfactory.com/det.jsp?d=51136&c=765263 doesn't trigger dock mode automatically, costs less than the HTC (currently $20) and has enough clearance to allow you to dock the phone in a case, as long as it's not too thick for the USB connection to plug in.
Oh, and for a few $ more, they have this one: http://www.cellularfactory.com/det.jsp?d=51135&c=765263, which also charges a spare battery.
Visidon app lock is also a cool facial recognition app that allows you to lock specific apps.
Spoke to three different people at HTC today, one of which was from an engineering department of some sort. He was shocked to be able to replicate exactly what I have described here.
I think they will try to figure out a fix for this in the form of a software update of some sort.
In the mean time, time to go back to just plugging it in to the USB cable.
Good to know a fix for this issue is on the way.
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Hey,
As the topic title suggests I f'ed up and dropped my Mozart. Now the entire powerbutton on the little motherboard snapped off internally, I checked.
Any chance there is a softwares with which I can bind the cambutton to do the powerbuttons work, and even more important, get an icon for the cam somehwere on the phone
I really love my mozart, I've checked around the registry but couldnt find anyhting myself. Since i'm still learning I'd love some help.
Tx.
In settings -> camera, allow the camera to wake up the device. Use the button to wake up, and then press home. Set the screen lock to 30s, and use that to lock it.
eqzgkxokwa said:
In settings -> camera, allow the camera to wake up the device. Use the button to wake up, and then press home. Set the screen lock to 30s, and use that to lock it.
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Hey mate
I thanked you for it, but I already figured that out myself. I got one step further even. I figured out that if the USB port gets a 100mA 5v current it will function as the "unlock" button. I put a few small batts in series and connected + and - of the USB PWR wires. Works like a charm
Still I would love to find some s/w which lets me change the h/w buttonmapping of the unlockbutton to the cambutton.
Oke lol problem solved. Plugging a headphone jack in the top also unlocks it. I will carry a cut off headphonejack with me at all times from now on. Epic lulz
Now all I need is a software lockbutton so I dont have to wait 30secs all the time.
why not just have the power button repaired.. its under warranty.. unless you broke the warranty.. anyway can you please post a picture of what had happened to the power button so I can see if that can be fixed or not.
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why not just have the power button repaired.. its under warranty.. unless you broke the warranty.. anyway can you please post a picture of what had happened to the power button so I can see if that can be fixed or not.
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I repair phones myself, it cannot be fixed otherwise I would've fixed it The PCB is damaged around the powerbutton and short-circuitting the right pins won't turn it on any longer. I would post a pic if I could, but the only cam in the house is in the Mozart
I wish I was a s/w dev now instead of a h/w guy cuz then I would've coded an app which would make me soft-lock the phone
Warranty doesnt work for me unfortunately. Lost the receipt.
If a viable solution doesnt emerge in the forums I'll have to learn the basics of programming for WinPhone 7 and code myself a quick and dirty app to fix it. C'est ca
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Still I would love to find some s/w which lets me change the h/w buttonmapping of the unlockbutton to the cambutton.
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The only way to do that would be to put Android on the phone, and find an app for it. Windows Phone 7 will not let any app do this (unless it was created by the OEM or Microsoft).
Have you looked into replacement parts, or is it purely with the circuitry? You could also try your luck with HTC- they may do it.
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The only way to do that would be to put Android on the phone, and find an app for it. Windows Phone 7 will not let any app do this (unless it was created by the OEM or Microsoft).
Have you looked into replacement parts, or is it purely with the circuitry? You could also try your luck with HTC- they may do it.
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The button snapped of but took a tiny bit of circuitboard. Seems to have taken too much for it to be fixed.
Do you know if Win Phone 7 will allow softwarebased locking of the screen? Before I'm gonna start learning .net and silverlight for nothing
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The button snapped of but took a tiny bit of circuitboard. Seems to have taken too much for it to be fixed.
Do you know if Win Phone 7 will allow softwarebased locking of the screen? Before I'm gonna start learning .net and silverlight for nothing
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As far as I know, I don't think so. (Simplification coming up) The way .NET works (especially on this phone), is that it has a list of functions you can tell the phone to do. If a function isn't included, you pretty much can't do anything past that.
Orange Insurance
I did exactly the same yesterday. Dropped my Mozart and the power button doesn't seem to work. I've not pulled it apart to check but the button feels like its come away or snapped off the PCB.
I want to take the chance to praise Orange UK's insurance. I dropped the phone Yesterday (Sunday) at 14:30, I've been told by orange a new handset will be with me before 13:00 Today (Monday). That's, if anyone can't add up, within 24 hours!
Well worth £5 a month! I do believe Orange do a similar thing for PAGO customers. So it might be worth while just getting a PAGO sim (Free), topping it up with what it needs for the insurance and claiming for a new handset. Just an idea.
Notice for ALL Mozart users, don't drop your Mozart!
I have this issue where when you pop the tablet into the dock either:
a) It will not recognise that it is plugged into the dock; OR
b) It will recognise the dock but the keyboard and/or trackpad will not work
It takes several tries of ejecting the tablet and re-inserting it before both work.
Anyone else have this problem?
Have you checked that the contacts on either the dock or the tablet aren't dirty.
I only just got my dock less than an hour ago, so I haven't really tested it extensively. So far, it's been pretty good. The only problem I have is with locking and unlocking capabilities.
The dock has a lock button on the top right, and it works perfectly. However, it won't unlock the tablet.
The workaround to this is to go to settings and uncheck MobileDock Battery Savings Mode under ASUS Customized Settings. This allows the dock to wake up the tablet by pressing any key, which I guess might come at the cost of battery life.
So I suppose I'm looking for a way to lock and unlock the tablet with just that lock key on the tablet, while keeping the Battery Savings mode on. Why put it there if we can't even unlock the tablet without costing battery life?
I'm having the same problem as well. My keyboard doesn't register has connected sometimes and sometimes the battery says zero. all the keys don't work except the top row. the mouse doesn't work. everything is crap so far. they better fix this...
I had the same problem with mine at first. I tried it out with three keyboard docks, all the software updated, tried rooting it/unrooting, factory wiped it, the whole nine yards.
Then I bought another Prime because I finally found a Champagne Gold one and was ready to sell my Grey tablet, and the new one worked perfectly fine with all of the docks.
It's an issue with the tablet. My guess is some flaw with the connectivity of it. Your best bet is to send your tablet it in for repairs from Asus, I'm sending mine out Monday and once it's fixed I'll be posting it on EBay.
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I had the same problem with mine at first. I tried it out with three keyboard docks, all the software updated, tried rooting it/unrooting, factory wiped it, the whole nine yards.
Then I bought another Prime because I finally found a Champagne Gold one and was ready to sell my Grey tablet, and the new one worked perfectly fine with all of the docks.
It's an issue with the tablet. My guess is some flaw with the connectivity of it. Your best bet is to send your tablet it in for repairs from Asus, I'm sending mine out Monday and once it's fixed I'll be posting it on EBay.
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I am having the same problem with the dock. Like you, i had tried wipe data, manual update through sdcard,factory reset and nothing works.
I was hoping the .13 firmware will solve this problem but i am still waiting for the WW release. Anyone whom updated to the .13 US release can confirm if the dock issue still exists?
I believe that its a firmware issue because "sometimes" by checking and unchecking the Mobiledock battery saving mode, i am able to "wake up" the keyboard. But it will stop working a few minutes later.
As mentioned above, I have found out today that it is the tablet's problem. I've gone in to memoryexpress by where I live and those guys know their stuff. They've seen it before and they said it's something that can't be repaired. So everything with the keyboard problem needs to send it in for repair (receive a new one), or refund/exchange.
I tried my tablet with 3 brand new docks, all with the same problem. I'm glad I had the ipr on my tablet and it covers broken tablets.
I wonder how many people tried connecting their docks without removing the little plastic guards on the bottom of the tablet?
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I wonder how many people tried connecting their docks without removing the little plastic guards on the bottom of the tablet?
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I don't think people are THAT stupid. The dock doesn't go in without taking it off. But I don't doubt your point there... we do have idiots amongst us
It OFF? there are 3 one on the connector itself and 2 more for the tabs on the end that line it up
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It OFF? there are 3 one on the connector itself and 2 more for the tabs on the end that line it up
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I don't understand what you mean by 3 on on the connecter :S All I know is that there's covers for all of them and I took them out.
The other day, I went to turn on my Prime and the screen didn't come one, so I thought the battery was dead. But even after charging it overnight, the screen still didn't come on, so I took a closer look and figured out that the tablet is powered on, but the screen is entirely black.
I know it's on because it makes the tone when you plug in or remove the power cable, and when I connected it via USB to my Win7 machine, it immediately installed the drivers and correctly identified it as a Transformer Prime.
So basically I have a running tablet with a black screen; no boot animations or text, just nothing. I would assume it's a hardware problem rather than software, unless anyone out there has a better idea.
I bought it used on Ebay, so I know I'm probably SOL in regard to warranty, but will Asus fix it for a fee? Or is there a market for mostly-bricked tablets out there?
Thanks
Hmmmm...motherboard could have died. I'd at least check with Asus, but barring that id open it first to make sure the LCD ribbon inside never came off.
As a final option you could let someone with a busted LCD but working prime try it out.
Have a look at the post by youngnex in the RMA Question thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33281353
I'd say send it in and see what they say. But then I'm biased as I bought mine on eBay too and want to know! Lol
Seriously, though, for $20 I'd send it in to see.
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Cool, thanks for the info. A loose cable would explain it, but I'm not too keen on opening it up. I'll look around for instructions on how to do it, but if it seems over my head I guess I'll try to send it back and see how it goes.
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Cool, thanks for the info. A loose cable would explain it, but I'm not too keen on opening it up. I'll look around for instructions on how to do it, but if it seems over my head I guess I'll try to send it back and see how it goes.
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Might want to start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479664
Have you actually tried to reboot it by holding down the power button for 10s? My i9000 sometimes does this and a reboot always fixes it.
So, the screen doesn't light up at all? Not even any edge lighting?
In that situation, I'd be connecting it via HDMI cable to an external HDMI screen. You'll need to get a micro-HDMI adapter in order to do this. You can get them from monoprice.com pretty cheap ($2ish).
Opening your prime isn't hugely difficult. There's videos on the internet on how to do it. The real key to opening it is that there are locks that hold the screen down that you need to slide open -- they're under the rubber stoppers that cover the docking station holes.
Now, changing the LCD is a HUGE, difficult pain.
Yes, I've tried to reboot it with a long power hold. I get the quick vibrate after about 10 seconds, but nothing at all on the screen.
It does sound like it might be just the LCD ribbon, so maybe I'll try to open it up this weekend.
For the sake of future Googlers, I wanted to post an update saying that I went ahead and opened it using the instructions linked in the post above, and was able to re-seat one of the ribbon cables, and everything works fine now. Thanks to everyone for the help.
So nightmare scenario, dropped my DNA across the metal transition between carpet and vinyl floors and completely shattered the screen. When I push the power button I get a faint grey color that indicates the phone is responding, but the screen is too far gone to display anything. The phone is rooted, and I believe I have TWRP installed. Is there any way to get my data off this phone? I activated my old Incredible (has it always been this small?!), so I have a phone, but I have pictures, videos and other files I would like to retrieve from the DNA with no apparent means to do so. Do I have any options other than ordering a screen/digitizer replacement and trusting my repair skills?
Nothing happens when you connect it to a computer?
BTW is you username screeching weasel homage? Love it lol
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jgraves12 said:
Nothing happens when you connect it to a computer?
BTW is you username screeching weasel homage? Love it lol
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Turns out Boogadaboogadaboogada is too long...
When I hook it up I get the Verizon install crap. I have always had to unlock the phone and allow debug mode to enable it to function as a USB device and see files and folders. Obviously, that's not in the cards right now...
Alright, well there's the adb push/pull commands but that'd probably have the same problems that mass storage has.
http://www.herongyang.com/Android/adb-push-and-pull-Command.html
Do you have adb set up on your computer? See if "adb devices" recognizes your phone.
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Well, I was able to get something figured out over my lunch hour. I have an MHL->HDMI converter which I hooked up to my TV. That allowed me to verify that the phone was working and the digitizer was responding. I found out a while back that a small ziplock bag works wonderfully if there's a chance of rain since it's watertight and still allows the screen to respond to touches. I used one to protect my finger from all the glass edges. I then hooked the USB cord to a computer, blindly swiped the notification bar down and poked in the area where I remember the USB debugging line to be. Luckily enough, I managed to gain access. Not the easiest way of doing things, but it worked.
Now I just have to decide whether to fix the phone or burn an upgrade on another line to keep my unlimited data. Verizon's launch of the "The New One" might play into that decision...
That's awesome man. Glad you got everything figured out.
Yeah that phones gonna be awesome. Everyone b****ing about the black bar at the bottom but it doesn't bother me at all. That's definitely gonna end up being my next phone unless somehow Verizon gets the Xperia Z2.
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I will have to trade it in if i cant find a solution for my issue
Basically i have only 2 issues with my phone
1) I keep my phone in my back pocket generally, but quite often when i pull it out of my pocket, the little door for the sim card/charger has popped open........ altho it makes me a bit scared to submerge it, i can live with this
2) This is the dealbreaker, if i cant solve this the z2 will be getting sold and something else will take its place. Again this only occurs in my pocket, but every single time i pull phone out, its changed the homescreen...... widgets either get added toor removed from homescreen, apps open and run, music player starts and stops by itself, notification bar quick settings icons get added or removed, flight mode gets activated, silent activated etc
I believe this is caused ny the screen reacting to metals, wood and lead, is therea way to turn this feature off so it will only work with my finger touching the screen?
As i said, its a fantastic phone and id like to keep it, but as long as it gonna keep doing these random things in my pocket then its just not worth keeping
You could see if 'Glove mode' is selected in Settings > Display. If it is, turn it off.
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You could see if 'Glove mode' is selected in Settings > Display. If it is, turn it off.
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aha.... so glove mode is what makes the screen resond to the other items then? Im pretty sure glove mode is off but i will check now, as i said would love to keep this phone its brilliant....... but as it is currently its just a waste of time
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I will have to trade it in if i cant find a solution for my issue
Basically i have only 2 issues with my phone
1) I keep my phone in my back pocket generally, but quite often when i pull it out of my pocket, the little door for the sim card/charger has popped open........ altho it makes me a bit scared to submerge it, i can live with this
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Your flap is defective. Same thing happened to me. I've bought a new flap (for about 10€) and now it's fine.
Then, don't open your flap too often, prefer wireless file transfer and charging via magnetic port.
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aha.... so glove mode is what makes the screen resond to the other items then?
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The screen will still respond to metal objects and pencil lead etc, but it should be activated by your backside through your jeans anymore.
Crap..... glove mode is not switched on........ guess it gotta go up for sale then. Will be sad to see it go tho, n yeah already got magnetic charger n wireless connect.... ive only actually opened that door twice lol
Or another possibility, as im rooted, is there something i could remove/freezethat will stop the screen responding to other materials????
Not to my knowledge. It's strange, I often carry mine in my back pocket (screen facing inwards) and have never had the screen turn on. I can't say the same for my G3 which often turns the screen on.
Since it is isolated case and no one else expierenced this as far as i can tell its user error, you got dodgy apps or there is something wrong with the way you handle the phone.
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Not to my knowledge. It's strange, I often carry mine in my back pocket (screen facing inwards) and have never had the screen turn on. I can't say the same for my G3 which often turns the screen on.
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Interesting..... i didnt think of it before, but i suppose i should have asked if anyone else is having a similar issue?
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... something wrong with the way you handle the phone.
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In his pocket? :silly:
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Since it is isolated case and no one else expierenced this as far as i can tell its user error, you got dodgy apps or there is something wrong with the way you handle the phone.
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possibly but i wouldnt have thought so..... i dont treat this phone any differently to any other phone ive owned (well.... actually i havent thrown the z2 across the room...... yet, lol) and as far as apps go, i only actually have 5 or 6 downloaded apps installed, all of which i have used without issue on previous phones, and deleted around half of the useless (to me) pre loaded system apps, and its been doing it since i had it, well since a few days after i got it, but the first few days were a weekend and i wasnt at work just chilling at home so phone didnt really go in pocket
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possibly but i wouldnt have thought so..... i dont treat this phone any differently to any other phone ive owned (well.... actually i havent thrown the z2 across the room...... yet, lol) and as far as apps go, i only actually have 5 or 6 downloaded apps installed, all of which i have used without issue on previous phones, and deleted around half of the useless (to me) pre loaded system apps, and its been doing it since i had it, well since a few days after i got it, but the first few days were a weekend and i wasnt at work just chilling at home so phone didnt really go in pocket
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Do you have double tap to wake on? if so maybe your backside is unlocking it.. and moving stuff around..
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5teve said:
Do you have double tap to wake on? if so maybe your backside is unlocking it.. and moving stuff around..
Steve
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Actually yesi do have that switched on..... even if that the cause tho, my work trousers arent made of wood,metal or lead so screen shouldnt be responding to my backside. I will turn it off n see how it goes tho, it might be the cause but then again you gotta be quite precise for that double tap t work anyway and my backside is tiny lol so maybe not........ great suggestion tho
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Actually yesi do have that switched on..... even if that the cause tho, my work trousers arent made of wood,metal or lead so screen shouldnt be responding to my backside. I will turn it off n see how it goes tho, it might be the cause but then again you gotta be quite precise for that double tap t work anyway and my backside is tiny lol so maybe not........ great suggestion tho
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Well I just tried my phone unlocked against my jeans and it still detects and operates the screen... So you never know
Steve
I have knock on turned off - otherwise when walking with the phone in my pocket listening to the FM radio, I end up sending several texts and emails....
Update: It appears it was actually the 'tap to wake' causing the issue..... i turned it off and went to work friday night and when i got home saturday morning phone was exactly how it should have been, no open apps, no options changed, no icons removed. Nice feature but think ill leave it off forever lol