[Q] Root without factory reset? - HTC EVO 3D

If you rooted without factory reset have you had any problem with the phone afterwards.
I want to avoid having to set up the apps and data again.
I cannot get temp root to work so I could use TBackup so that is not an option.

No problems here. I would still recommend taking the time to get temp root working so you can do a backup.
Mike
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I didn't do a factory reset, and everything went fine at the time. However, the next morning I realized that my phone was no longer sleeping, so I did a factory reset anyway.
I'd recommend going ahead and using Fr3vo to temp-root and use titanium to back everything up. It'll probably save you some headache in the long run.

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Factory reset question dealing with back up folder

I was wondering if I do a factory reset, will my back up folders from rom manager and titanium back up be deleted?
Thanks in advance
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I posted this in another thread about my experience with Factory Reset
If you have removed any bloatware I do not recommend it
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Hello,
I just wanted to share my experience and possibly prevent other people from going through it.
I recently received my first Vibrant and it happen to be one of the defective units unable to enter recovery via HW. Of course at the time I did not realize this was a problem and was new to the phone and android in general.
I rooted the phone and removed 5 or 6 bloatware apps (Telenav, Audio Postcard, etc... Nothing important) So im installing and uninstalling apps you know how it goes and I think you know I just kinda want to clear everything out and remove all the user data. I understand the bloatware I removed will not come back but thats better for me so I wont have to remove it again. So I use ADB reboot into recovery and select Erase User Data.
It formats and I reboot. Right away nothing works and I get a constant force close loop of just about every app trying to open including TouchWiz which I didnt remove so it should be fine. Well I think this sucks at least you can always flash to stock. DING thats when it hit me and I realized I now had no way to get into recovery or download mode to even attempt running a recovery. SO I had to have my phone replaced. The replacement phone Is not defective and I can access everything via HW buttons. I wanted to see if i could duplicate my issue. So I do a backup of stock right away. Then I proceed to remove bloatware etc...
I factory reset and again force closes
I nandroid back to the stock reference I made and boots fine No defect in the phone No Problem this time correcting it. I do a factory reset at that point and works fine.
Point I guess is after all this is if you have a HW Locked defective phone and have removed bloatware NEVER RUN A FACTORY RESET unless you have put the bloat back on... Would have saved me from having to get a replacement though I guess that was better cuz now I have a phone that works properly.

Went back to stock, now cant re-root

I used the 1 click toot method and thought I may return my fascinate. I decided against it and tried to root again with no luck. The root always has a bunch of FC's and eventually gets stuck. The generic ringer also starts with no way to stop it. Only a battery pull will restart the phone afterward. I have also already really installed the Samsung drivers for the phone. Anybody have any thoughts?
Did you go back to stock via odin...if not do so...and push root manually...instead of an app.
I did through Odin. Tried to push root manually last night. The phone froze right after the push and never recovered. Had to battery pull. I had all of the files pushed and got to the chmod and wait stage when it froze.
Hmm, maybe re push to stock in odin...make sure you are doing the correct files...though it sounds like you did...a second time around sometimes seems to hit the spot...droid used to give me the same issues with sbf.
Do a factory data reset after you redo the odin recovery. Make sure you are using the verizon file when pushing each flash and doing it in the proper order. Then manually root, dont use one click or an app.
Also remember to push the files one at a time and let the phone restart between each one booting back into download mode.
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I've been working all weekend so I havent had too much time to deal with it. I wiped data and cache in the recovery menu initially and then the phone wouldn't allow me to sign back into my Google account. It kept telling me that I didn't have a data connection on 3g OR wifi. I finally did a factory reset through the privacy menu (not in recovery) and all seems to finally be working and completely stock. Now off to root and flash voodoo...
hey i had the same problem i made a post on how to fix it though.. go to the 0.00 internal storage issue mine was doing what u said plus more but i fixed it just follow the steps i set
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804457
Got it. Just for the record: Rooted, Flashed all three files with Odin to get "back to stock". Re-OTA'd. Somehow Busybox and Su were still there so I manually removed. Then changed my mind about returning the phone and attempted to root again with no luck. Re-flashed through Odin ok, then attempted root but errors prevented finish. Cleared data and wiped cache through recovery. Then my google account wouldn't resync b/c of network connection error, even though I had a working data connection the entire time. Tried booting into recovery and clear and wipe data again. No luck. Finally decided to use factory data reset from within settings. Now all clear, rooted again, re-synced my google account and all good. You guys rock. Thanks for the help.

Factory reset on .21 will i lose root?

Thats the question
Of course i have OTA voodoo root keeper and i think i already did a factory reset on .14 or something and kept the root / was able to restore root - not sure anymore.
Has anyone tried that?
I want to factory reset because i have some strange things going on, like reboots after a long time on standby and stuff like that. Or maybe these are just issues with .21 ... who knows but anyway would be nice to know what happens to root after factory reset.
you will lose root and voodoo keeper so you will be unable to restore root.
clouds5 said:
Thats the question
Of course i have OTA voodoo root keeper and i think i already did a factory reset on .14 or something and kept the root / was able to restore root - not sure anymore.
Has anyone tried that?
I want to factory reset because i have some strange things going on, like reboots after a long time on standby and stuff like that. Or maybe these are just issues with .21 ... who knows but anyway would be nice to know what happens to root after factory reset.
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Try the paper clip in the little hole by the sdcard first to see if that helps. I just did it this morning. There is no downside.
clouds5 said:
Thats the question
Of course i have OTA voodoo root keeper and i think i already did a factory reset on .14 or something and kept the root / was able to restore root - not sure anymore.
Has anyone tried that?
I want to factory reset because i have some strange things going on, like reboots after a long time on standby and stuff like that. Or maybe these are just issues with .21 ... who knows but anyway would be nice to know what happens to root after factory reset.
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I did a factory reset with .21 after rooting .14 and installed voodoo ota root keeper...i didn't lose root...the superuser app gets installed along with other apps...
Does anyone know the answer to this definitively from experience, and could they explain it. I asked the same question on 04/13 with no answer.
You will not lose root if you have Google backup enabled. I did a factory reset on .21. The OTA Voodoo app along with the data files for it will be automatically reinstalled when you log back into your Gmail account.
prettyboy85712 said:
You will not lose root if you have Google backup enabled. I did a factory reset on .21. The OTA Voodoo app along with the data files for it will be automatically reinstalled when you log back into your Gmail account.
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Thank you are there any other answers besides google backup (I don't trust it) it sometimes only works on first bootup after system reset
Yeah i dont trust google backup either
Guess i'll wait for the next update which should come very soon. See if that clears up my issues because other than that i like the stock rom.
But good to know its still an option to factory reset even though its somewhat risky.
I actually did factory reset on .21. I had lost wifi do to pilot error. I had a backup apk of voodoo and upon installing it I still had root AFTER the factory reset. This was a wipe all data from the bootloader menu, not using the reset pin on the side. I can confirm that either you wont lose root, or voodoo will restore it for you.
I was rooted on .14, went through the upgrades, had multiple failed updates to .21 until I downloaded and manually ran it.
Now I cannot get root back with Voodoo despite having backed it up before hand.
Any ideas?
I had .21, rooted with VooDoo on the system, when I reset the superuser came back but I did not have root, and Voodoo did not come back. I have everything backed up on Titanium, but it won't work without root.
I am going to try and use another users voodoo apk and see if it will work.
I have the same issue, SU is there, but no root.
aawshads said:
I had .21, rooted with VooDoo on the system, when I reset the superuser came back but I did not have root, and Voodoo did not come back. I have everything backed up on Titanium, but it won't work without root.
I am going to try and use another users voodoo apk and see if it will work.
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Grab the apk from TB for Voodoo and manually install it. It should restore root for you. Your backups are in mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
im on .21 not rooted. if i do a factory reset will it reset my firmware to factory too like to .14 and then can i root install voodoo and update to .21?
fcortes626 said:
im on .21 not rooted. if i do a factory reset will it reset my firmware to factory too like to .14 and then can i root install voodoo and update to .21?
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Factory reset does not remove or rollback firmware updates.
Just wanted to let you know, i did a factory reset yesterday. Everything went fine, i kept root and titanium worked perfectly.
It was a complete pain in the ass though to copy back my stuff. I had about 20GB that i backed up before the reset and wanted to copy back once everything was set up. I had to start over several times, and it kept hanging at times. I hate this media device mode. HATE IT.

Factory reset

Hey guys,
If i do a factory reset through settings and i have the leaked ics rom.. will i brick my phone?
Thanks,
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no
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Would doing this un-root a rooted phone?
talonted said:
Would doing this un-root a rooted phone?
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no. it will only wipe user data
Are you trying to go back to stock??
WOW, is this topic real?
Lmao to is this topic..real!!!
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A factory reset removes ANY data that is not 'pre-installed' by the rom.
Basically, its as if you just turned your phone on for the first time but instead of with the rom that came with the phone, it is with the rom you have installed.
You do not loose root because what actually is giving you root is code added to the kernel (hooks) and since the kernel is part of the system, it cannot be reverted to its original state, any changes made to the kernel will remain after a factory reset (Android at this time does not keep multiple backups of system files like Linux or Windows does - sometimes called shadow copies).
If your rom did NOT come with SuperUser pre-installed, you can simply redownload it from the market (if you were rooted).
One other thing, a factory reset also removes any cached data (davlik for example) as well. This is why it takes so long for the phone to boot after a factory reset or after installing a rom that does a wipe before installing (the phone has to rebuild the davlik cache when it reboots which takes some time).
If you are interested in specifically what a factory reset does and does not do, I recommend asking Google, its a very informative resource.
I'll just toss this out there; I got my phone a few days ago, and it was pretty sluggish on stock TW; adding ADW ex didn't help a lot, so I did a factory wipe reset yesterday, and it fixed things right up!
Did it to my wifes phone too, and it fixed a few little issues she was having too..I read some posts saying that it should almost be mandatory to do a factory wipe when you first get this phone, which i thought was weird, but, proved beneficial for both of our newly acquired Notes...
Absolutely, Android is alot like windows, it begins to just start performing badly. Typically, a simple reboot fixes things but one in awhile, a factory reset doesnt hurt.
So how do you do a factory reset????

[Q] What happens if I factory reset phone

Was thinking about factory resetting my phone. For some reason the WatchESPN app isn't working and I thought that
if I factory reset my phone it will work again. Question is, Will I lose root if I factory reset my phone.. Thanks
kidnice15 said:
Was thinking about factory resetting my phone. For some reason the WatchESPN app isn't working and I thought that
if I factory reset my phone it will work again. Question is, Will I lose root if I factory reset my phone.. Thanks
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If only one app is having issues I'd uninstall and reinstall the app. Factory Data Reset is really a "last resort" sort of thing. And the main thing it does for you is to uninstall all the apps you've installed and then reinstalls them.
Why not just wipe the application data for Watch ESPN? As far as Factory Reset, it wipes /data and /cache. If you're using stock recovery, this will include the internal SD card, so pictures, videos, etc. that you have taken will also be wiped.
kidnice15 said:
Was thinking about factory resetting my phone. For some reason the WatchESPN app isn't working and I thought that
if I factory reset my phone it will work again. Question is, Will I lose root if I factory reset my phone.. Thanks
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The idea of factory reset can be quiet confusing in android. The word "factory reset" is fancy enough to trick you that it will restore everything back to where it was...but all it does is just clearing stored cache, data, and etc etc., and it does NOT promise you anything. In lots of circumstances, damaged system or installed apps can't be restored, and they are ended up getting firmware flashed by manufacturer (some Verizon stores do flash firmware but many don't). Let's say you're rooted and removed all the bloats using system app remover. That's not going to restore your bloats to where it was....and you'll be rejected from receiving OTA update.
To get back to your question, "Will I lose root if I factory reset my phone?" I think it really depends on how you rooted. I think if you rooted your phone by flashing rooted image, then probably not. But if you use ADB shell to root your phone, you may lose your root.
Try to clear your cache and see if it works again.....I think that's the best way.
I agree you probably don't need a factory reset here. But no you will not lose root. Root is custom binaries inside the system that will not be touched. Depending how you installed your super user app I guess you could lose that, but you who's just have to download one
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