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I am currently waiting on the official Gingerbread to be released rather than flashing the custom 2.3.4 build that's floating around XDA. I'm basically wondering if, when the official Gingerbread is released, will the unlocking option be available in the update or will I have to do something else to actually unlock the bootloader? If it isn't an option that Motorola will provide, will it be easy after the update or should I update it now?
Lastly, I am using GingerBlur 4.5, so I'm assuming I will have to flash back to 4.1.8.3 to get the official update? I'm VERY worried about hard bricking my phone so what do I want to avoid (and why do I want to avoid so and so)??
Thanks for the help.
Kaaji1359 said:
I am currently waiting on the official Gingerbread to be released rather than flashing the custom 2.3.4 build that's floating around XDA. I'm basically wondering if, when the official Gingerbread is released, will the unlocking option be available in the update or will I have to do something else to actually unlock the bootloader? If it isn't an option that Motorola will provide, will it be easy after the update or should I update it now?
Lastly, I am using GingerBlur 4.5, so I'm assuming I will have to flash back to 4.1.8.3 to get the official update? I'm VERY worried about hard bricking my phone so what do I want to avoid (and why do I want to avoid so and so)??
Thanks for the help.
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First part I'm not sure but you can unlock later. Second yes sbf to stock for updates
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Bootloader for the official ota 4.5.91 update floating around the forums does not allow you to unlock it. At least not officially. You can still use pudding sbf to unlock. Check pudding thread.
Also updating to the official ota update 4.5.91 posted here you cannot SBF back to an old 4.1.26, .57, or .83 SBF or you will hard brick. This means don't flash anything besides the bootloader pudding sbf with RSD lite.
Chances are we already have gingerbread for AT&T Atrix but we will find out soon enough.
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You will probably need to SBF back to 4.1.83 to install the update, but u should be notified about the update when its available, unless you froze updater 2.2.1 with titanium backup.
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This thread might help clarify regarding the locked bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158428
Unlock it right now with pudding and flash lastest 2.3.4 with CWM. After that you are going to ask yourself: why didn't I do that before?
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Hi folks,
Im sorry for my sily questions. But I read the BIG WARNING from here and cannot selft see what is my case.
All I have at right now is:
- A brandnew Atrix from AT&T since Feb 2011 started at 1.2.6 firmware
- Rooted it by Gladroot method
- Upgraded it to 1.5.7 and then 1.8.3 by OTA (via Wifi)
- Re-rooted (Gladroot) and I've been using my atrix from that till now
Today morning, I received an upgrade message on screen saying that a new update of GingerBread 4.5.91 (en.us) is available for download.
Well, because of the BIG Warning above, I just wonder:
1. Does my Atrix get brick after apply this OTA update?
2. Am I able to flash back to the stock 1.2.6 or 1.5.7/1.8.3 after apply this OTA update?
flusshd said:
Hi folks,
Im sorry for my sily questions. But I read the BIG WARNING from here and cannot selft see what is my case.
All I have at right now is:
- A brandnew Atrix from AT&T since Feb 2011 started at 1.2.6 firmware
- Rooted it by Gladroot method
- Upgraded it to 1.5.7 and then 1.8.3 by OTA (via Wifi)
- Re-rooted (Gladroot) and I've been using my atrix from that till now
Today morning, I received an upgrade message on screen saying that a new update of GingerBread 4.5.91 (en.us) is available for download.
Well, because of the BIG Warning above, I just wonder:
1. Does my Atrix get brick after apply this OTA update?
2. Am I able to flash back to the stock 1.2.6 or 1.5.7/1.8.3 after apply this OTA update?
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your atrix will not be bricked but if u try to sbf back to froyo (stock) you run the big risk of hardbricking your atrix there are .zips and roms that are stable and similar if not the same thing you can use if flashing back may be in the question
1. No, you don't get bricked after the update.
2 . No, you cannot flash back to any of the prior stock versions after this update.
I did this update and all went well. As far as I can tell after reading a lot of threads and posts, this update prevents us from flashing back to previous versions but does not prevent us from re-rooting and unlocking the bootloader if we want.
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1. No, you don't get rooted after the update.
2 . No, you cannot flash back to any of the prior stock versions after this update.
I did this update and all went well. As far as I can tell after reading a lot of threads and posts, this update prevents us from flashing back to previous versions but does not prevent us from re-rooting and unlocking the bootloader if we want.
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lol i just said this
It appears that some people have had luck. However, I had a stock ROM with only root enabled, and the OTA update bricked me. Went to do the .sbf method from here in the forums, and got an 0x1000 brick. (whee).
Basically, rooted but not Bootloaded unlocked was really bad. I had to unlock the bootloader to re-flash, and now I'm back up and running, albeit 4 hours later.
I think the best bet is to use the Motorola software that upgrades via the USB cable. Mine did come up once via that method before I tried to re-root it (because it came up un-rooted)
Thanks for quick replies, bros. I'm clear now. But my next issues is:
For the highest safety I prefer the flash method, but also love the stability of stock OTA update by Moto.
@TechnoNeto: Pls excuse me if my following ques is sily again: As I found on BRICK WARNING thread above, the provided 2.3.4 sbf is just a beta version (beta 4.5). Is it similar to the OTA official release? Any bug or limitation?
@amenditman: If I apply OTA update, I will get root by Fastboot Preinstall method, right?
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Thanks for quick replies, bros. I'm clear now. But my next issues is:
For the highest safety I prefer the flash method, but also love the stability of stock OTA update by Moto.
@TechnoNeto: Pls excuse me if my following ques is sily again: As I found on BRICK WARNING thread above, the provided 2.3.4 sbf is just a beta version (beta 4.5). Is it similar to the OTA official release? Any bug or limitation?
@amenditman: If I apply OTA update, I will get root by Fastboot Preinstall method, right?
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kens beta 4.5 is not an sbf its a zip installed through recovery ive been running it since 4.5 was released and its stable, provides the same ui as the ota and experience and will let me rsd back if needed if you choose this method i have a guide if needed.
edit kens rom as of now has not hard bricked phones
Here's what I consider the safest, although it removes root:
Motorola - Support - Software update
http ://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSummary.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&web_page_name=SUPPORT&strCarrierId=ATT&strPhone=Motorola%20ATRIX%28TM%29%204G&strCable=Micro%20USB%20Data%20Cable&strURL=https://rsddownload.motorola.com/download5/SoftwareUpdateforATTATRIX4Gversion.4.5.91.pdf
My OTA failed more than a dozen times. This worked...
In the process of re-rooting I bricked my phone, but after unlocking the bootloader (which I really didn't want to do) I managed to flash in a working rooted copy.
Sorry for the ugly link - forum software won't let me post it as a proper URL.
TechnoNeto said:
kens beta 4.5 is not an sbf its a zip installed through recovery ive been running it since 4.5 was released and its stable, provides the same ui as the ota and experience and will let me rsd back if needed if you choose this method i have a guide if needed.
edit kens rom as of now has not hard bricked phones
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So clear. I decide now to use ken's zip. Pls give me some brief guides, i'm grateful and big thanks to you TechnoNeto
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flusshd said:
So clear. I decide now to use ken's zip. Pls give me some brief guides, i'm grateful and big thanks to you TechnoNeto
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Ken already gave you a Guide:
http://briefmobile.com/download-android-2-3-4-gingerbread-for-motorola-atrix-4g
djeuch said:
Here's what I consider the safest, although it removes root:
Motorola - Support - Software update
http ://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSummary.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&web_page_name=SUPPORT&strCarrierId=ATT&strPhone=Motorola%20ATRIX%28TM%29%204G&strCable=Micro%20USB%20Data%20Cable&strURL=https://rsddownload.motorola.com/download5/SoftwareUpdateforATTATRIX4Gversion.4.5.91.pdf
My OTA failed more than a dozen times. This worked...
In the process of re-rooting I bricked my phone, but after unlocking the bootloader (which I really didn't want to do) I managed to flash in a working rooted copy.
Sorry for the ugly link - forum software won't let me post it as a proper URL.
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A valued experience for me. Thanks for share
Hi folks,
I unlocked successfully my Atrix, but after unlocking it becomes un-rooted, phone was reset to the fresh state. Im following now instructions of Ken's 2.3.4 beta 4.5 Rom but as no root, I cannot do backup PDS step.
My ques is:
1. How can I re-root my phone?
2. At the step "click install zip from SDcard" as guide by Ken's, which mode I have to reboot my phone into to see this option? (I flashed CWM recovery img already)
flusshd said:
Hi folks,
I unlocked successfully my Atrix, but after unlocking it becomes un-rooted, phone was reset to the fresh state. Im following now instructions of Ken's 2.3.4 beta 4.5 Rom but as no root, I cannot do backup PDS step.
My ques is:
1. How can I re-root my phone?
2. At the step "click install zip from SDcard" as guide by Ken's, which mode I have to reboot my phone into to see this option? (I flashed CWM recovery img already)
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follow this video guide i made you can skip if 6your already unlocked but to add in kens rom is already rooted, a benefit so that you wont have to preroot like with the ota
TechnoNeto said:
follow this video guide i made you can skip if 6your already unlocked but to add in kens rom is already rooted, a benefit so that you wont have to preroot like with the ota
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Upgraded successfully!
Im nearly crazy with new beautiful UI and amazing performance. Moto has really heard from community to improve eveything in this release.
Thanks for you guys here, especially to TechnoNeto who helped me to choose this upgrading method!
Hey people I really need someone here to just point me in the right direction.I've read up but its pretty confusin because noone talks about the official OTA much.
I upgraded from .83 to the 2.3.4 OTA
My bootloader is unlocked too EDIt it's Locked
I have root though.
I've read that if I went straight to OTA I'm screwed as far as using RSD
CAn I use RSD to flash a 2.3.4 ROM or stock sbf?
Will it brick my phone?
I want to just flash something other than this OTA which doesnt let me do really anything can someone at least post a link that can help me with how to flash over the OTA? please any help will be appreciated!!! thanks
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Hey people I really need someone here to just point me in the right direction.I've read up but its pretty confusin because noone talks about the official OTA much.
I upgraded from .83 to the 2.3.4 OTA
My bootloader is unlocked too
I have root though.
I've read that if I went straight to OTA I'm screwed as far as using RSD
CAn I use RSD to flash a 2.3.4 ROM or stock sbf?
Will it brick my phone?
I want to just flash something other than this OTA which doesnt let me do really anything can someone at least post a link that can help me with how to flash over the OTA? please any help will be appreciated!!! thanks
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Most likely yes. Since you already have the pudding bootloader, it'll be fine. But not every rom works the same, so you gonna take extra care especially when you want to downgrade to lower versions.
I have the at&t OTA that was released a few days ago so you're saying I can use RSD to flash the 2.3.4 leak build?
EDIt my bootloader is Locked im sorry root is the onlything I have I apologize
DeXtmL said:
Most likely yes. Since you already have the pudding bootloader, it'll be fine. But not every rom works the same, so you gonna take extra care especially when you want to downgrade to lower versions.
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Well isn't what unlocked bootloaders and recovery are for? Should be able to flash your 2.3.4 alien rom and boot/shutdown and flash the faux kernel. That's if your AT&T.
Besides I hear RSD after bootloader and it's update is a big no no. Especially since many bricks posts "hhhhhheeeeelllllpppp meeee im bricked!?"
Stock OTA 2.3.4/4.5.91 AT&T with just ROOT right NO bootloader UNLOCK?
You just can RSD same 2.3.4/4.5.91 sbf so far YOU CAN NOT RSD ANY MOTO DOWNGRADE FOR EXAMPLE 1.26 1.57 1.83
If you decide to unlock your bootloader you can flash by CWM or moto-fastboot almost anything from dev for ATRIX
so the deal here is to unlock the bootloader
sk8trix said:
I have the at&t OTA that was released a few days ago so you're saying I can use RSD to flash the 2.3.4 leak build?
EDIt my bootloader is Locked im sorry root is the onlything I have I apologize
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shuld I follow this guide?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/atrix-rooting-roms-hacks/105996-guide-ulbl-root-stock-atrix-ota-gb.html
I may have to return my ATRIX due to Let'sTalk horrible customer service, but I was wondering if there is anyway to re-lock the Bootloader, or to hide the fact that it says, Unlocked. Thank you in advanced
Also, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, as this is urgent to me and I have yet to see any otherpost relating this topic.
There is another topic like this.
No you can't re-lock and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
Reflash To Stock
Unfortunately, there is no way to relock a bootloader. Hence all of the warnings when you committed
but, if you use 4.5.91 the software at the address below should reinstall the newest stock software...
direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSelect.asp?country=USA&language=ENS
be careful because Im not sure how motorola update will react to an unlocked bootloader. Ask around...do so at your own risk.
If you want to try a harder, albeit, safer method, and you are sure that you do not have a phone running 4.1.5.91, you can restore your phone to a factory SBF with this process:
briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRY TO RESTORE A 4.5.91 system to stock with RSD LITE.
To go to any of the blue webaddresses above, copy-paste them into your browser. Sorry, but I am not allowed to post links yet.
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
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The downgrading and hard brick problem stems from using the OTA update, so you won't hard brick if for example you upgraded with KP's 4.5.91.
You also should be able to flash the 4.5.91 SBF. You just can't downgrade. There are other threads about this.
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maledyris said:
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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The reason the fruitcakes were created and deemed safe by the devs were because it didn't touch the BL, which people believe to be the culprit behind the hard bricks. NFhimself was brave enough to testing flashing the BL via cwm in his gobstopper on international phones, but I don't think any other devs are willing to risk hard bricking their phones by testing that theory on US phones.
There also isn't enough "reward" for doing so because if people want to downgrade they can use a fruitcake. The only gain is to get rid of the "unlock" text. But if you were really that concerned about it despite reading all the warnings of this will void you warranty, you shouldn't have unlocked in the first place.
maledyris said:
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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Hi,
One of the reasons I did up a default CWM of 2.2.2 is to have a means of doing a reset after trying all ATT/ORANGE/TELSTRA/MOVIESTAR/etc firmwares out there which may have side effects or accumulated side effects. Hence the inclusion of the stock bootloader and radio and a write of the extra partitions to clean up whatever mix and match leftovers are in there from the various carriers. The other big one is just to be able to get a Bell OTA applied when it comes out, it will probably be similar to the leak, but best to be safe.
This is more of a Bell/Intl issue as ATT folks tend to run just ATT firmware or flash just boot and system via CWM/fastboot and don't have the same issues as flashing a sbf file.
Both the stock 2.2.2 and leaked ap20 OTA bootloaders from Bell are safe to flash after IHOP, this is not the case with ATT bootloaders and may be the case for any included in a sbf file. Finding out the hard way is not an option.
Cheers!
ken218 said:
Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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Say I unlocked it at 1.8.3 should I go down to 1.5.7? Is that safe?
moto helper update relocked mine flashed it to 4.5.91 and i had to reunlock and root agin i thought i was getting a driver update not ota.I was on rom homebase + extras but my win 7 64 bit wasent seeing my phone so i reinstalled drivers and updated drivers and updated moto helper and in the process flashed my phone to stock that pissed me off had to start over..I rebooted the phone several times and never seen unlocked on boot tried to fastboot into android recovery and got the triangle im all good now back on homebase ext4 just thought id share that you realy can relock at least it dont say unlocked i beleve its locked
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and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Err...............yes you can!
care to share how?
Scolis said:
care to share how?
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Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
CaelanT said:
Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
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Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
leperkuan said:
Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
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When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
CaelanT said:
When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
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Lol well I wasn't sure it had a one year warranty. Found out my vibrator does work. Just sometimes doesn't on cm7. Weird. Well I may try this anyways. Tired of custom Roms.
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leperkuan said:
Found out my vibrator does work.
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Think you should go to another site other than XDA with this. Something in the XXX domain should work for you. Too much information for me! LOL................
assuming it is still in warranty
hard brick the phone and return it
just tell them you was doing a software update and your kid unplugged the phone while doing so
I have an ATRIX 4G MB860 from T-Mobile UK with 2.2.2 stock Froyo with just the bootloader unlocked. I also have had it sim unlocked using the unlock code.
My Question is, would this unlocked bootloader cause any issues whenever the T-Mobile OTA upgrades come.
Would I be able to use the OTA upgrade or would I need to flash a custom ROM using CWM or something?
I hope the OTA wont brick the phone cuz the bootloader is unlocked.
Any comments?
Thanx
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shabeepk said:
I have an ATRIX 4G MB860 from T-Mobile UK with 2.2.2 stock Froyo with just the bootloader unlocked. I also have had it sim unlocked using the unlock code.
My Question is, would this unlocked bootloader cause any issues whenever the T-Mobile OTA upgrades come.
Would I be able to use the OTA upgrade or would I need to flash a custom ROM using CWM or something?
I hope the OTA wont brick the phone cuz the bootloader is unlocked.
Any comments?
Thanx
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Erm... theoretically you can.... BUT YOU SHOULDN"T....
Official 2.3.4 "burns a fuse", meaning you can't go back to 2.2.2 or you will hard brick. Official OTA 2.3.4 also comes with a new bootloader that causes problems (you will most likely have to reflash pudding to get the phone unlocked again),
ANYWAY, you can upgrade to Official 2.3.4 without flashing OTA.
Since you have unlocked your BL, you do have experience with using fastboot?
Flash CWM, and then flash the Official rom from here via moto-fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15970117#post15970117
This way, you will only flash the "boot" and "system" partitions. (It's also advisable to flash the "webtop" and "radio").
It's really the safest way to upgrade to Official rom without losing the BL unlock, burning the fuse, risking a brick, etc...
xploited said:
Erm... theoretically you can.... BUT YOU SHOULDN"T....
Official 2.3.4 "burns a fuse", meaning you can't go back to 2.2.2 or you will hard brick. Official OTA 2.3.4 also comes with a new bootloader that causes problems (you will most likely have to reflash pudding to get the phone unlocked again),
ANYWAY, you can upgrade to Official 2.3.4 without flashing OTA.
Since you have unlocked your BL, you do have experience with using fastboot?
Flash CWM, and then flash the Official rom from here via moto-fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15970117#post15970117
This way, you will only flash the "boot" and "system" partitions. (It's also advisable to flash the "webtop" and "radio").
It's really the safest way to upgrade to Official rom without losing the BL unlock, burning the fuse, risking a brick, etc...
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Yes, I have experience working with fastboot
Just one more question, does it make any difference that I have T-Mobile version of the phone. Would that cause any problems? Cuz the thread you have referred to is an AT&T thread ?
shabeepk said:
Yes, I have experience working with fastboot
Just one more question, does it make any difference that I have T-Mobile version of the phone. Would that cause any problems? Cuz the thread you have referred to is an AT&T thread ?
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If you have T-mobile - DONT flash the radio. And you will be super duper safe.
p.s. just to be safe - backup your current rom with CWM before flashing.
I still haven't rooted the phone. What method do you recommend for my T-Mobile device?
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iv been looking for help on this too!
I put gingerblur on my rooted atrix yesterday using this video
youtube.com/watch?v=MvC0C2h95BY&list=FLqfb2F1A2s4Z08JTFsWNuGg&index=4&feature=plpp_video
and ever since my homescreen button and search button dont work and i no longer have a lock screen so i want to go back to stock
my phone before i put it on gingerblur was 2.2.2 froyo on tmobile uk (unlocked device with no tmobile branding on the rear cover)
i would really apreciate it if someone could guide me how to turn it back to the software it came with or an official less buggy software please?
i checked my ota upgrade and it says i can go to ATT gingerbread but then i msure this wouldnt work in the uk with the radio update
im not sure at all what im doing with this and i wish i didnt follow the tutorial in the first place can someone help me please!