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Update on 24.12.10 - My phone hasn't frozen or switched off on it's own since I made these changes! The battery life constantly stays real good. I have only charged my battery up to 100% TWICE in 4 days!! I think this trick works! I will really appreciate if more testers come forward and help us test this
What will this mean?
This will mean that we can make TG01 battery stay minimum of 24 hours and maximum upto 38-40 hours with good amount of browsing, calls, texts, games, ALSO keep exchange sync on forever!!
In total before my battery completely died, I was able to do the following:
2357 minutes of stand-by (includes the activities as well)
137 minutes of browsing
3 Downloads (total less than 10MB)
180 minutes of calls
36 text messages
21 email downloads using Exchange sync - that was ON all the time
60 minutes of gaming
18 pictures taken using camera
12 minute video recorded using camera
1 round of back up and virus scan
This is what I've done:
Installed SPB Shell here
Removed Taskbar (was a cab file in miROM4 that I am using)
Removed Start Menu (I have attached cab that I used to remove start menu)
Before you remove start menu or taskbar - PLEASE make sure you have full functioning SPB Shell installed. You will loose WinMo start menu and notifications (see attached pic) so you will rely solely on SPB Shell ONLY
On miROM4 by removing start menu and taskbar the original free RAM (96MB) increases upto 105+MB - I don't know how, I don't know why. This is my observation and testing!When you install SPB Shell, you will notice the RAM going down to 78-80MB on boot. - I don't think it's bad either.
Now you might wonder what's so different.
Someone did an experiment showing that by running apps the battery drain was 20% compared to stock ROM
Another experiment also led to show that battery drain mostly is not a ROM issue
I am no tech, I am no expert. This is my pure observation and my experimentation with TG01. I know the links I've quoted are for HTC mainly, but I suppose theory still stays. If any one is willing to replicate those experiments on their TG01 please feel free to collaborate with me.
I have updated all my uses on TG01 between 100% battery and 0% battery.
After 100% charging the battery,
Just to re-fresh what I have done with it apart from leaving it on 'stand-by'
I am running SPB Shell with it.
Using Opera 10 browser for facebook, bing, google (approx browsing 97 minutes till now)
I have read news on Evening standard and BBC (approx time 35 minutes till now)
I have downloaded recipe for 2 cocktails
I have made 6 (appox. 147 minutes in total) phone calls
I have sent 31 text messages
My active sync is on since 10pm as I have set my exchange email retrieval 'as item arrives' - so it has downloaded 14 email items at different times. Experiments have shown that results are quite bad when it comes to using Exchange Active Sync schedule 'as item arrives'
I have played Sudoku (about an hour)
I have left my backlight at 70% (on SPB you have an option)
My battery life after 18 hours 30 minutes is 80% with free ram of 78-80% without any processes running i.e. on stand-by!!
1 call (33 minutes long)
5 text messages
2 games (56 minutes total) of puzzle
Facebook using Opera 10 (updated status, replied few messages, browsed mainly)
Downloaded tube map from a website using Opera 10
Took about 18 pictures using TG01
Cleaned RAM, Virus scanned and did an online back up.
After 27 hours 22 minutes - my battery life remaining is 50%
Made 0 phone calls, 0 texts
My active sync downloaded 7 emails
I checked XDA website for about 20 odd minutes using Opera 10
I used facebook for 10 minutes using Opera 10
I recorded a video of length 12 minutes
All this time my wifi and data connections were switched 'ON'
39 hours 17 minutes - my battery is 0% and my TG01 switched off!!
Putting all these links together, I think if ROMs don't affect the battery drain, but by removing these two elements if my phone survives in adverse conditions i.e. exchange email (shown above link) and running apps/games (shown above link) - then it had to be either of these two elements or settings behind them that drain our TG01's battery!
EDIT: Yes, Oly after removing taskbar, when we press on 'Start button' it freezes the mobile. We don't need to remove battery to get rid of the freeze. Just few seconds and it comes back to normal. But to avoid that occuring, I used the attached cab. That cab removes start menu from the face of my WinMo. PS: This cab is NOT my creation. I have found it on XDA. ALL the credit for this cab goes to NRGZ28 - this cab will prevent making RegEdits
THUMBNAILS' LEGENDS:
1) How the 'Today' screen looks without taskbar and Start Menu Icon
2) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
3) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
4) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
5) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
6) How the SPB home screen looks without taskbar
drupad2drupad said:
OK GUYS .....
Removed start menu
Removed taskbar.
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Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
Pere said:
Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
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I had DarkNinja task bar pre installed as cab from miROM4 - I removed it. It sort of 'disables' the start menu, but after that I removed start menu using one of the 'remove start menu keep x button' cabs and then eventually even removed 'x' button most programs respond to <- key at bottom.
I could attach cabs if you want but basically removing taskbar will remove all your icons on top and just leave the clock - it makes SPB Shell look nicer as well!
It been 27 hours and 21 minutes as I type and my phone's battery is 50%. I am going to edit the amount of tasks I have done in these 27 hours.
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
olyloh6696 said:
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
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Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
drupad2drupad said:
Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
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Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
gizmogeeker said:
That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
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gizmogeeker said:
Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
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hi drupad! sorry i had a typo in my other post... i was meant to say i can sucessfully disable the start menu on 6.5.3/6.5.5 , but i cannot get it to open up the spb menu in the spb settings. there is no option for it... i will try and post screenshots soon! also i have been using this technique for months and having noticed a battery performance increase because i thought it was to do with the ROM i changed from ... i guess it does make a big difference! i will try and disable my task bar and report back! im not to sure if disabling the task bar stops your notifications caching in the RAM. perhaps someone else could help us out?
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
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Thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when I reach home! I wish more users could test this and give feedback.
I might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more with these observations!!
Another thing I just realized is I haven't restarted my phone at all - The last time I switched off my phone was when I completely ran out of battery during this 'experiment'!
My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
drupad2drupad said:
thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when i reach home! i wish more users cud test this and give feedback. we might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more!!
Another thing I just realised is I havent restarted my phone at all! My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
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thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
olyloh6696 said:
thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
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updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
drupad2drupad said:
updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
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nice! thanks drupad
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
Good luck and thanks for trying this, will wait for your feedback
drupad2drupad said:
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
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Some software are able to connect via GPRS automatically and disconnect too after exit ( Palringo ) but most of them not. So I would like to have such fast way to disconnect ( I did not check - battery is still charging in shutdown - but mentioned "Connections" have not ability to disconnect from GPRS ?. As I remember there are three fields Phone, BT and W-Fi. Wi-Fi shows connected or not and one can switch-off wi-fi . It is not the same as as disconnect but better this than nothing.
Phone only shows that whole GSM radio is on not GPRS connection.
Anyway, maybe You know any kind of software that allows to manage GPRS-Wi-Fi. It does not has to be in upper bar. It is enough I will put it on SPB window.
drupad2drupad said:
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
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Yes in my oppinion ( I was dealing with other "small" devices like PNA and PDA ) backlight is factor thar can dramatically make battery live longer. No wonder , it requires a lot of energy.
I guess that You ensured very good conditions for Your experiemnts. I mean very good quality of GSM and Wi-Fi signal which may cause the transcievers on tg01 could work with low power. It is in my oppinion second main factor. In bad conditions GSM can "eats" even 1-2 W of power.
drupad2drupad said:
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
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Do You want to say that with miROM10 You have the same good result as with miROM4 without removing task bar and wm menu ?
Recently I tested miROM11 ( as mirolg said there are only minor changes in comparison to miROM10 ) but I am rather disappointed. Not stable. Eats battery as any other ROM.
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fxdjacentyfxd
Done a search and can't find a solution...
With the 'easy to press' buttons on the HD2 the phone screen keeps powering on in my pocket (I use phone lock to stop auto dialling).
This is draining the battery...
Any way to stop this happening? Say, have just the power button only turn on the screen, after a long press for example???
eugene7 said:
Done a search and can't find a solution...
With the 'easy to press' buttons on the HD2 the phone screen keeps powering on in my pocket (I use phone lock to stop auto dialling).
This is draining the battery...
Any way to stop this happening? Say, have just the power button only turn on the screen, after a long press for example???
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Try settings / system / keylock settings. There are options to set the buttons as non responsive except for the power button.
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Try settings / system / keylock settings.
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I have this same issue and I've got a stock 3.14 tmobile rom but when I go to settings / system /, there is no options for keylock settings. is that on a custom rom?
+1 for this
From new my phone used to have the option of locking all buttons except the power key ... until I did my first hard reset, then it vanished! I would have thought the settings app would have been in the ROM, so restored after the hard reset, but obviously not.
Anyone have a cab for it or care to extract it from their HD2?
<quote>Try settings / system / keylock settings. There are options to set the buttons as non responsive except for the power button.</quote>
Nope, no such option on my HD2...
Seems we need 'keylock.exe'
Anyone got it and know if it will work in an HD2?
Ok, at least I know I'm not unique now...
i've installed Hd2ProximityScreenOff-0.2.cab which I guess turns the screen back off quickly if an "in-pocket" button press brings the screen to life. (can't confirm what happens in my pocket, but seems to do the trick in my hand)
but I'd really like to know if someone knows how to get to this keylock setting
HeadMajor said:
I have this same issue and I've got a stock 3.14 tmobile rom but when I go to settings / system /, there is no options for keylock settings. is that on a custom rom?
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Take a look at my signature. I'm using NRG ROM, which I highly recommend.
stevedebi said:
Take a look at my signature.
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ahh crap, noob mistake. sorry.
any chance you can dig up where "settings / system / keylock settings" points?
maybe it points to something already in the stock rom?
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noob
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i can install the stock rom update right from tmo, and install cabs and crap, but not yet ready to make the leap to customer roms (or android for that matter)
try pocketshield software. it has feature that turns your screen immediately off if its in pocket etc with proximity sensor, also its great and cool.
I have recently installed cyanogen on my desire and have found the mod to be an absolute joy to use. The one irritation however has been the automatic screen dimming. Every 6 or 7 seconds or so the screen dims itself. This can become very annoying when reading long messages or any other text. I have looked on lots of threads but have found no answer to my question. Surely there must be a simple solution to turn off this automatic dimming setting?
Thanks
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I have recently installed cyanogen on my desire and have found the mod to be an absolute joy to use. The one irritation however has been the automatic screen dimming. Every 6 or 7 seconds or so the screen dims itself. This can become very annoying when reading long messages or any other text. I have looked on lots of threads but have found no answer to my question. Surely there must be a simple solution to turn off this automatic dimming setting?
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I think....(not exactly sure) but that may be apart of the actual rom, if there is no setting under display then its probaly built in that way. Under settings/display you can change the screen time out if that help
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I've played around with all the settings myself and have so far been unsuccessful. Its not a problem really, just a bit annoying. I just find it hard to believe such an awesome mod doesn't have a simple off switch.
If anyone knows of a way to extend the screen dimming then that will help too.
I think what you're looking for is the Sleep setting. Go under Settings -> Display -> Sleep, and select a longer time interval if needed. Your current setting might be set to sleep after 15 seconds, causing the screen to dim at 6-7 seconds. Change it to maybe 1-2 minutes.
yes you can. Put the widget 'Power Control" on the home screen and you can do it easily from there. Thats how i do it.
Recently I installed cm 12 but I have a problem ie the screen backlight is always on when the screen is off........I need help.....
ananthur said:
Recently I installed cm 12 but I have a problem ie the screen backlight is always on when the screen is off........I need help.....
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setting /display
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setting /button/backlights
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but the brightness adusting is also not working
Hey there.
One thing I remember from Gingerbread is how, when on lockscreen, the screen would turn off after some 7 secs. So say I wanted to check the clock I could just turn on the screen and put the phone away again. On JB it seems like it uses the same timeout setting as the rest of the system, one I keep at 1 min..
Is there a way to make to make it seperate? I want the screen to turn off after 10 secs when Im on the lockscreen, so I dont have to press the, quite, inconviniently placed power button on my phone, each time (seeing as I got tap2wake on my phone)
Kocayine said:
Hey there.
One thing I remember from Gingerbread is how, when on lockscreen, the screen would turn off after some 7 secs. So say I wanted to check the clock I could just turn on the screen and put the phone away again. On JB it seems like it uses the same timeout setting as the rest of the system, one I keep at 1 min..
Is there a way to make to make it seperate? I want the screen to turn off after 10 secs when Im on the lockscreen, so I dont have to press the, quite, inconviniently placed power button on my phone, each time (seeing as I got tap2wake on my phone)
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You can try my app, KinScreen. It allows setting a different timeout for the lockscreen. However, the lockscreen timeout doesn't seem to have an effect in KitKat (where the default is 10s).
Kocayine said:
Hey there.
One thing I remember from Gingerbread is how, when on lockscreen, the screen would turn off after some 7 secs. So say I wanted to check the clock I could just turn on the screen and put the phone away again. On JB it seems like it uses the same timeout setting as the rest of the system, one I keep at 1 min..
Is there a way to make to make it seperate? I want the screen to turn off after 10 secs when Im on the lockscreen, so I dont have to press the, quite, inconviniently placed power button on my phone, each time (seeing as I got tap2wake on my phone)
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Have you found a way to do this? My new 4.3 JB smartphone used to have a lockscreen screen timeout of 5 seconds, which I liked, but somehow it is now something like 30 seconds... which is TOO long for my liking... I've tried any combination of settings to revert this but with no luck...
BTW, 30 seconds is not even my screen timeout ... I have it set to 1 minute. So... I have absolutely no clues...
MegaSharkXDA said:
Have you found a way to do this? My new 4.3 JB smartphone used to have a lockscreen screen timeout of 5 seconds, which I liked, but somehow it is now something like 30 seconds... which is TOO long for my liking... I've tried any combination of settings to revert this but with no luck...
BTW, 30 seconds is not even my screen timeout ... I have it set to 1 minute. So... I have absolutely no clues...
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Only way I could come up with was to use Tasker. Make a profile that does when on lockscreen timeout is 7 secs and when not its 1 minute.
Not very ideal.
Kocayine said:
Only way I could come up with was to use Tasker. Make a profile that does when on lockscreen timeout is 7 secs and when not its 1 minute.
Not very ideal.
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Can you share how was your Tasker profile created? I remember trying to do a similar profile on my previous smartphone (actually it was running KitKat) and I couldn't figure a way for a profile to detect lockscreen for the timeout to be set differently.
Also you can't set it below 7 seconds....
Interestingly enough, I suspect Tasker was the reason why I lost my "short" lockscreen screen timeout in the first place on my new smartphone
MegaSharkXDA said:
Can you share how was your Tasker profile created? I remember trying to do a similar profile on my previous smartphone (actually it was running KitKat) and I couldn't figure a way for a profile to detect lockscreen for the timeout to be set differently.
Also you can't set it below 7 seconds....
Interestingly enough, I suspect Tasker was the reason why I lost my "short" lockscreen screen timeout in the first place on my new smartphone
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That was indeed the trick. To detect the lockscreen. I came across this plugin:
https://bitbucket.org/laceous/android-atlockscreen/wiki/Home
AtLockScreenTaskerConditionPlugin.1.0.0.apk
AtLockScreenTaskerSettingPlugin.1.0.1.apk
Those you'll need. It runs a background service, without battery drain ofcourse, that uses something 4 mb ram.
Attached is the entire "project" you can import to get something that works.
Kocayine said:
That was indeed the trick. To detect the lockscreen. I came across this plugin:
https://bitbucket.org/laceous/android-atlockscreen/wiki/Home
AtLockScreenTaskerConditionPlugin.1.0.0.apk
AtLockScreenTaskerSettingPlugin.1.0.1.apk
Those you'll need. It runs a background service, without battery drain ofcourse, that uses something 4 mb ram.
Attached is the entire "project" you can import to get something that works.
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Thanks! But I managed to do it yesterday all by myself just using Tasker and nothing else wanna know how?
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Thanks! But I managed to do it yesterday all by myself just using Tasker and nothing else wanna know how?
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Yes we want to know how! What Android version? I haven't been able to change the lockscreen timeout on KitKat from the default 10s (higher or lower) on stock Nexus 5 ROM.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Flyview said:
Yes we want to know how! What Android version? I haven't been able to change the lockscreen timeout on KitKat from the default 10s (higher or lower) on stock Nexus 5 ROM.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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So basically this is set by using two profiles:
. Event Screen on -» Display timeout 7 seconds
. Event Screen unlocked -» Display timeout 60 seconds
The only caveat I can think of is that instantly lock after sleep should be activated to prevent false positives.
Now if only I could set the timeout to a value lower than 7 seconds...
MegaSharkXDA said:
So basically this is set by using two profiles:
. Event Screen on -» Display timeout 7 seconds
. Event Screen unlocked -» Display timeout 60 seconds
The only caveat I can think of is that instantly lock after sleep should be activated to prevent false positives.
Now if only I could set the timeout to a value lower than 7 seconds...
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Cool.
However, the reason I didn't go with something like this is because there's times where I'll have the lockscreen disabled thru a widget OR if I wake up right after it had turned the screen off (and there's a time of 5-15 secs before actually locking the phone). That would result in having an extremely fast dispaly timeout at times where it's not actually wanted. The way I've gone about it ensures, for the most part, that it only applies when locked.
Can anyone tell me how to change the screen timeout/sleep time on the M5? I've tried display, battery and security settings but it doesn't appear to be in any of them. It's a real pain trying to read emails, news, flipboard etc with the standard (30 seconds?) timeout.
mickrick said:
Can anyone tell me how to change the screen timeout/sleep time on the M5? I've tried display, battery and security settings but it doesn't appear to be in any of them. It's a real pain trying to read emails, news, flipboard etc with the standard (30 seconds?) timeout.
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If it's not under >Display>Sleep, you are in trouble!
Should be there, try again!
kupa said:
If it's not under >Display>Sleep, you are in trouble!
Should be there, try again!
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Just discovered it is under Display/Sleep. But Sleep option is greyed out.
*UPDATE* Aha! Power saving mode was on. It must be enabled by default because I can't think why I would've enabled it. Sorted now.
mickrick said:
Just discovered it is under Display/Sleep. But Sleep option is greyed out.
*UPDATE* Aha! Power saving mode was on. It must be enabled by default because I can't think why I would've enabled it. Sorted now.
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I've had the CMR-W09B for a week now and found that when I change the sleep time it always reverts to the default 30 seconds after a while. Power saving mode not active. Installed Screebl Pro to manage timeout, but unlike my many other devices using the app, it seems to be overridden by the system and doesn't work. Whether Screebl is active or not, or what I set the timeout to, the timeout returns to 30 seconds.
This happening to anyone else, or am I just special?
I got it just turn off your battery savers
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