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I've tried to stream my simple DIVX AVI files over my wifi for days now. The files are located on a NAS with DLNA capabilities. I've tried different apps, but the same result with every app - does not work. The lag is defined as MAJOR. 0.5 sec of sound, silence for 5 sec, 0.5 sec sound, silence for 5 sec and so on.
The funny thing is, if I pick up my Samsung Galaxy S II - it works FLAWLESSLY! The stream picks up within 1-2 secons and plays just fine without any hickups at all.
How come it works like a charm with my S II, but not with my tab? FYI I've tried with the stock rom, now I'm using the Broodcomb ROM, and the results are the same on both roms. This can't be because the Tab 10.1 doesn't have an official support for DLNA, can it?
Any help would be appreciated since one of the reasons for buying this was to stream Big Bang Theory from my NAS into my bedroom so I can fall asleep to it! lol
What are you using as a player? I suggest Rockplayer which I have used to play DLNA streamed media just fine from my Galaxy S2 phone using Skifta beta (free) as the server. The lag problem may be issues with hardware decoding. If you are using moboplayer, there is a setting in the application to default to software decoding.
Rob
Same as above, Rockplayer to solve the lag issues. Blame Tegra 2 though.
I've tried Skifta, default video player, Moboplayer, BubbleUPnP, SoftMedia Player and UPnPlay. Still major lag issues.
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WOOT! Tried with Rockplayer, works great! Thanks!
I'm using Skifta Beta to browse my NAS. Just in case someone else are having problems.
But why is this to blame on the Tegra 2, thought it was a kick ass CPU?
Mistwalker said:
I've tried Skifta, default video player, Moboplayer, BubbleUPnP, SoftMedia Player and UPnPlay. Still major lag issues.
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WOOT! Tried with Rockplayer, works great! Thanks!
I'm using Skifta Beta to browse my NAS. Just in case someone else are having problems.
But why is this to blame on the Tegra 2, thought it was a kick ass CPU?
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Tegra 2 is nice to have on a phone but not on a tablet. Its very old (almost 2 years) for tablet use and does not support many features to make a great tablet experience.
Gah! Bad Samsung! So it would be better if they used their own Exonys CPU instead? Well, let's just wait for the next one then, I'm sure they fix it. Samsung has done a lot of kick ass hardware the last years
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Same problem
I have exactly the same problem. I have a Galaxy S II phone and this is sooo much better at streaming from my NAS.
I just assumed that the Galaxy tab 10.1 should be able to do this easily as well, I mean a tablet is perfect for this!
I have tried Moboplayer, UPnPlay, BubbleUPnP, Vplayer and none of them seemed to be able to manage it.
I will check Rockplayer using Skifta to browse the NAS and report back...
I can confirm that using Skifta as a DLNA app to browse my Buffalo NAS and Rockplayer to stream the video files works brillantly. This seems to be the only combo that is reliable.
Also just set up AndFTP to download files direct to Tab instead of Filezilla server on laptop which is slower transfer rate.
Cheers for the advice!
I have had the same problems. I tried MX player and it works. Its also free. Plays most videos and has a choice of encoders. I do hope Samsung sort this out.
Some upnp clients have the ability to 'download' the file from the dlna server (long press on the file), but when I tried this with UPNP Player, the download always fails. Skifta host does not have a download option and I could not find any other suitable candidate to try. Maybe the skifta dlna server does not support file transfers.
Rob
I'm using Buzz player and it's working fine with WDTV Live media server
I've had success with Skifta as well and UPNP to browse w/ mobo or V player as the player.
Hey guys,
Loving my Prime but I'm finding the video playback hit and miss to be honest.
I'm finding them all very buggy and most of them kick me out of the video randomly even without anything else running.
All of the below run perfectly on my friends Galaxy SII so it may be ICS?
I want to play back XVIDs and MKVs with subtitle support.
Below are the players I've tried and their results:
Google Videos:
Reads MicroSD
Plays MKV (some without sound) but NOT XVID
Doesn't support subtitles
STABLE
Rockplayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MX Video Player Pro
Plays XVID & MKV
Subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MoboPlayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
How have you guys been finding video playback on this guy?
I play on using this tablet for a lot of video consumption so I'd love to get this sorted.
Thanks for the help!
Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.
MX video player has worked great for me. Try different encoders if something in your video isn't working well (ie, HW, SW, etc). Also, try re-installing if you think ICS broke it.
Diceplayer is the best I think. Plays everything just fine and have good setting for subtitle.
I watch my videos most with subtitle and i haven't had any problems. Easy to change size and if you long press on the subtitle text you can move it up and down. Also have easy access to change the subtitle sync. And the add only shows when the controls are showing. here You don't see the add when the video plays and the controls and status bar hides.
And if some videos don't play properly i say that the problem often is the video file that is encoded strange.
MX Pro works great for me even on my high profile x264 encodes. SW decoder works better than HW decoder (go figure right? I would have thought the opposite) with fast mode disabled.
Edit: I have to agree with Andreas, if you're having playback issues it's likely the video not the player. Encoding is a subtle art, not everyone gets it right. Get your vids from well known sources like Thora.
Thanks a million guys.
MX Player Pro doesn't support HW decoding on the Transformer Prime. At least on mine it doesn't. Dunno why. And its really flakey. It keep crashing out on any file I try to play (XVID, MP4, MKV)
DicePlayer is WIN so far! Thanks for the recommend!
It's playing everything with subtitles too.
The only thing I don't like about it is the background 'behind' the movie is a gradient from black at the top to grey at the bottom so on some movies you've got a grey at the bottom of the picture instead of it playing on a full black background.
Unless you guys know how I can change that I'll be using DicePlayer until something better comes along.
HURRY UP VLC!
HW decoding technically works on my Prime, but SW decoding performs better. Is the option not even available for you in settings? Free or Pro? Also, no VLC...ever. Just no.
OK!
Very happy to report that after purchasing the full version of MX Player Pro EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT!!!!
Many thanks again guys!
XDA ROCKS!
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Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.
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Another vote for DICE. Hopefully they can get their payment issues sorted out.
Dice is the best IMO. I run huge 1080p files and only Dice can handle it without a hiccup. MX Player Pro has a skip every once and a while. Not that big but Dice doesn't do it so it wins.
VitalPlayer Pro seems to work well. It can't navigate to the MicroSD card though.
BSPlayer has worked well for me. I use the lite version and all is good. It handles all video/audio as well has HW decoding for supported video types.
My vote goes to Dice player. It is the only one that I have tested that doesn't have audio lag when I am using bluetooth headphones. Also it plays everything I can throw at it.
And don't forget to instal mx player codec pack for armv7.. In market too.
MX Player will prompt you if it needs a codec pack installed. In the Primes case it does not, it is good to go.
Since I use and like DVD Catalyst 4 to convert my DVD's to video I also use their video app called Movie Gallery. Not sure if it plays all codecs but it sure works great with my converted DVD's
I used to use VPlayer when it was beta/free but now I use vlc for android http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-09-18/videolan_for_android_pre-alpha
I get my TFP tomorrow but it works on my phone and the OG transformer according to the post so it should work on the prime. NONeon btw at least the OG was NONeon
I sure hope that it does.
video and sound on tv, subtitle on prime
I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?
Does MXPlayer require an internet connection for the key verification? I saw some reviews that stated it did. Obviously on a wifi only device i may be without internet... Anyone have trouble with this?
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I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?
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You have to use software decoding if you want soft subs, the hardware decoder on the prime doesn't handle them when outputting.
Anyone have a favorite video player? I want something that will play all types of files, like MP4, AVI, MKV.
Aside from finding the 'best' one, a problem is when I download something like MX Video Player, I see all these add-on apps like codexes that are for specific processors. Which should I choose?
Thanks for any help or advice.
I think this question was already answered in another forum... but I downloaded MX Player and didn't have to install any codecs. For my atrix the mx player app prompted me to download... i think the armv7. But for the note, everything just played fine. I didn't get to try mkv's though.
MX Player can play 1080p mkv's just fine in hardware mode.
I use that in conjunction with file manager with samba support to stream from my NAS.
Another vote for MX player. I've even uninstalled the stock video player and just use the MX player for my main video player.
MX player will automatically prompt a codec download if needed. You don't need one with the Note.
Dice player is another good one but it had some slight lag when I was watching a movie which was disappointing. That never happened to me before with dice.
Loving vlc alpha. No pros in software or hardware mode with a 720p movie for 3+ hours.
I find MX to be jittery in HW mode on many video files (doesnt happen to me on my international Note). I run in SW mode but the quality appears to be slightly worse..?
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I find MX to be jittery in HW mode on many video files (doesnt happen to me on my international Note). I run in SW mode but the quality appears to be slightly worse..?
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Yeah MX seems to be a bit jittery with my .MPG files... it wont even play them in HW mode, i have to use SW mode.. and even then i have to use SW Mode Fast Decoder to get it to play properly
however the quality looks excellent to me. I'm still amazed by this f*ckin screen. 1000x better then my atrix.
Anybody know the best conversion settings for Handbrake? I read on another site that these were good choices, but seem to be for International version:
Video
Codec- H.264
Resolution- 1280×720/1280×800 (HD)
Bitrate- 1500kbps
Framerate- 30fps
Audio
Codec- AAC
Sampling rate- 44.1khz
Bitrate- 160kbps
Channel- stereo
I use Moboplayer and it seems to work fine. I wish vlc would be final.
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MX Player has been working great for me...
Rockplayer and dice play everything I need.
Mx player will attempt to play anything you throw at it. I used it until I realized that's not necessarily a good thing. It will play files that it can't play well...with no video, with audio sync issues, at half desperate, or down-scaled. Not what I wanted.
I use CIFS Manager to mount windows shares locally. This give you access to more players. If you have issues, a TVersity install may be an option.
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It appears there is an audio issue with RockPlayer and Hardware Decoding on our device. After contacting the developers, they will be releasing a version with SW audio support while using hardware for video to fix this. Expected within one month. Post will be updated once released.
DicePlayer has been recommended as an alternative as it has HW decode and native SAMBA support, however it does not appear to handle hardware decoding for as many formats as RockPlayer (watch for SW in the upper left).
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Hi all,
While going through the Accessory Guide post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669) I realized there was an odd recommendation on video playback using Emit Free. With our devices there is no need for transcoding like you would have to do on an iPad, but it's still not "easy" to get full 1080P playback over the network.
With root, you can install cifs drivers that are pretty efficient, but without it, many times video stutters. I tested a large combination of File Managers that mounted CIFS/SAMBA shares and Video Players to see which performed best.
From File Manager HD and Astro to MXPlayer and XYPlayer nearly all of them had stuttering issues with 1080P video, and lag when seeking in 720P video. Below is where I ended up, which entailed perfect 1080P playback, with zero lag when seeking (tested on high bitrate MKV and AVI w/ AC3 and DTS audio samples).
1. Install ES File Explorer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop
ES File Explorer is a file manager that supports CIFS/SAMBA mounts (these are the shared folders on your Windows, Mac, or Linux PC). Once open, swipe right to access the network shares. I recommend turning on "Detail" mode in the settings, so you can see file sizes and permissions, too. The advantage of ES File Explorer over other managers I tried is that the CIFS implementation has been optimized very well, and was the best at streaming the file data to the video player from a speed and bandwidth perspective.
2. Install RockPlayer Lite: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified.lite
RockPlayer is a great player that includes hardware acceleration, much like MXPlayer. The difference here is that like ES File Explorer, RockPlayer seems better optimized for network file handling. With other players in combination with ES File Explorer, there were still lag issues during seek. RockPlayer has none of these issues.
Be sure to enable HW acceleration in Rockplayer
Also ensure app mode is set to "stretched" instead of "zoomed"
Any questions, or other options, feel free to post below.
If this guide was helpful, please click Thanks below instead of replying to keep the thread clean.
Thanks!
Ben
i tried your suggestion.
yeah it gets rid of the lag but:
- there is no sound for most of my hd mkv videos
- subtitles dont show for mkv files
nice to see that the tfp actually does have the power to play these smoothly though!
I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.
I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.
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I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.
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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio
tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio
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Dice player works great with mkv movies with DTS and AC3 audio on my TF201. Dice player is the best way to stream movie using a NAS Imo.
tested with dlink dns-323 and stock tf201.
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tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Wifi performance is the issue for me. If i'm sitting next to the router 1080p plays fine. If I go to other rooms(even adjacent rooms) then it will stutter periodically. It really impairs one of the primary uses that I wanted the Transformer Prime for. As of now I use Plex to transcode to a smaller bitrate
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tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Interesting, I've had the exact opposite impressions with Rockplayer having more HW decoding support. In any event, I'm stupid for not testing audio.
I've updated the first post based on discussions with the developers of Rockplayer, and will do a re-work of this guide focusing on both solutions once it is released and we can test.
Thanks,
Ben
I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.
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I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.
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Yeah i get the same thing happening to me randomly.
Using mx player and es file explorer, maybe 15 or 20 mins into watching, the player will just quit by itself. Doesnt happen always though, maybe twice for every 5 vids i play.
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I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.
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I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G
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I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G
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Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.
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Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.
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Another nice thing about Plex is that you can choose not to do live transcoding and just stream the original video(silly wifi bandwidth allowing). But, that does bring me to my one complaint about Plex. You cannot directly stream the original video if it is mkv, it will always transcode.
In my experience:
If you want to avoid transcoding, then rooting + CIFS support really is the best, most efficient way, imho...plus, you're killing multiple birds with one stone, as file types not recognized by ES or other file explorers that support SAMBA, but which are supported by various apps on your tablet, will still work with whatever app you're using to interact with them.
Otherwise, this guide is good for playback without transcoding for some files. I'm able to stream some of my bluray and HD DVD rips (full bitrate mkv's with no down-sampling, de-rezzing, additional compression or detail removal) without transcoding, but high-bitrate titles such as The Empire Strikes Back hitch frequently. Don't know if that's a limitation of my wireless setup, tho).
On the transcoding side:
Emit free works fine. It's a little easier, imho, to set up remote file sharing that even Plex is, if you have to set up port forwarding manually on your router, as the instructions are pretty explicit about which ports it's using and how to get it set up. And, it's free.
Plex works fine, and cross-compatibility between Ipad and Android on the Plex server side, along with the cataloging, support for file types such as .wtv, and the channels concept, is pretty damn cool imho. You have to look around if your setup falls outside the norm as far as port forwarding manually is concerned, but if you don't experience issues, getting set up with a myPlex account for remote streaming is pretty straightforward. Transcoding looks pretty stellar if you can support anything above 4 mbps on your wireless, and it doesn't take a lot of CPU horsepower to do live streaming, either. I have an older AMD processor in my HTPC, and I stream 1080i .wtv files all day long to both my Prime and my wife's Ipad with no or extremely little stutter, and all my bluray rips play without issue. .WTV files can be played back while they're being recorded, and while watching something else on the HTPC, too...oh, and combine this with a Windows Media Center control app, and you can basically watch live tv on the Prime...just browse the guide, set a show to record, and you can watch it almost immediately in Plex, while it's recording.
Last, but not least, Splashtop THD or whatever the newer version is, actually works pretty damn well on my office rig, which is nvidia-equipped. .wtv files work as well, but you have to set your machine to open them by default in WMP instead of Windows Media Center.
When ever I play a video on my phone at specific points videos artifact. It will always be the same point but not the same point in a video but different points for different videos. I have looked all over and have not found anyone with this issue for the EVO LTE. I am wondering what this could be. I have tried all that I could think of. I changed roms, video formats, video players. The videos work fine on my other devices and my PC.
Attached is a part of a video that artifacts. Any help would be appreciated
A list of what file types and players you are using on your device would be helpful...
.mv4 and .mp4
And every player I have tried does this.
Do these videos work on someone else's EVO LTE?
Do they work on another Android device (perhaps the OG EVO)?
Do you have a spare SD card you can copy the videos to, one that you have performed a fresh format on?
I recently got vlc for my phone and it plays the videos back just fine. VLC to the rescue yer again.
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use MX Player. its the best video player for the LTE that i have found so far, its made for phones with dual cores or more. used to use Vplayer but it didnt work well on this phone
I will try that out, VLC player is able to play this one video without problems but it will not play any 720p full length episodes. The video that works fine is short and it not 720p.
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So apparently MX Player crashes at the exact same point that VLC does in the video, also MX player does not seem to run the video as smooth.
Using hardware decoding makes the video not run as smooth and crashes at that point. Software decoding is smoother and just artifacts at the point instead of crashing.
I found the issue. I had a bad USB hub. The videos play fine now.