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x10 or iphone 4? i want to sell my x10
dacihappymaker said:
x10 or iphone 4? i want to sell my x10
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if you wanna get trapped into Apple's wonderful world then ok other than that
"LOL" thats all i have to say about the trade
the iphone 4 screen is much better
the X10 has a better design and is more comfortable, also the apps on android are by 65% free vs 30% free on Apple app store
You need to know that apple pay much attention to little details in their phones, specially on the hardware side: things like high FPS on screen, trully multi touch and high quality image view are things that lacks the X10.
One major drawback, specially for you who are an android user will be the back button, iOS lacks back function, you have to return to the home screen and do everything again in your app to get to the point you wanted to return, very annoying.
On the android side, you can get things like Flash Player 10.1, cloud messaging and Wifi tether in infrastructure modde something that will be very welcome the day you want truly mobile wifi access on a tablet for example.
Also, very important: USB Storage on android is very welcome! you can't access the iPhone memory without some hacking, and not everyone has an iphone hacking kit installed on their computer.
ellokomen said:
the iphone 4 screen is much better
the X10 has a better design and is more comfortable, also the apps on android are by 65% free vs 30% free on Apple app store
You need to know that apple pay much attention to little details in their phones, specially on the hardware side: things like high FPS on screen, trully multi touch and high quality image view are things that lacks the X10.
One major drawback, specially for you who are an android user will be the back button, iOS lacks back function, you have to return to the home screen and do everything again in your app to get to the point you wanted to return, very annoying.
On the android side, you can get things like Flash Player 10.1, cloud messaging and Wifi tether in infrastructure modde something that will be very welcome the day you want truly mobile wifi access on a tablet for example.
Also, very important: USB Storage on android is very welcome! you can't access the iPhone memory without some hacking, and not everyone has a iphone hacking kit installed on their computer.
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good post! all those reasons and several more are why i chose android over iFone.
to the OP, why choose between 1 particular android handset and a totally different device? why not choose another android device if you are not happy with x10 (i am but not everyone is). There are several handsets that are higherspec available that still have all the benefits of android
my 2 cents
dacihappymaker said:
x10 or iphone 4? i want to sell my x10
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What's an iPhone? Is it that over-priced, over-hyped and under-performing piece of metal from the chewed fruit company?
I have both but I liked x10i.
Had given iphone to my wife.
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Yes!!! for for girls iphone is the best........
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What's an iPhone? Is it that over-priced, over-hyped and under-performing piece of metal from the chewed fruit company?
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... with a new type of antenna "Don't touch me!!!" Or secret "End of call button"?
tinny9 said:
I have both but I liked x10i.
Had given iphone to my wife.
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Could you make a X10 vs iPhone 4 video and post it on youtube?
I'd like to see how the X10 battles the iPhone 4.
From having and x10 and a touch hd, i couldn't use the small screen with thumbnail apps. There is.no way to get info fast ie widgets or notification bar. The multitasking is gimped and the freedom is constructed. However, its a gorgeous piece of kit and super fast, with the touch screen being a show stopper. Its all about functionality versus an app for everthing really
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Could you make a X10 vs iPhone 4 video and post it on youtube?
I'd like to see how the X10 battles the iPhone 4.
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Video? Are you kidding? Camera's photos from both phones would be more than enough! Not enough? What about multitasking?
Yes, I had iPhone 3G for around a year and after that have never ever thought about iPhone 4. Battle is over.
Hehe, did a little "face off" the other day with my xperia vs iphone in the apple store the other day. Iphone screen is brighter when both set to full and whizzing around homescreen is buttery smooth on iphone but the browser really kicks butt on the xperia. On the apple store wifi, the xperia was consistently quicker at loading apples own web pages by a couple of seconds and scrolling across the high res images on their site was alot smoother on xperia. Xperia is nicer in the hand and the screen seems alot bigger as the phones are very close to the same size. I won't even go into signal strength, on the same network the signal dropped from full to one bar when picking up the iphone :-( I turned off the wifi and it failed to fully load yahoo, whereas the xperia loaded the site through 3g as quickly as the iphone on wifi. I wasn't trying to do the death grip, just what was comfortable :'( but I guess it wouldn't be too much of a problem with the bumper case. Iphone is nice and navigating the interface is a very pleasurable experience, less frustrating than xperia but it is not an upgrade for an xperia owner. I would feel I was taking a few steps back by "upgrading" to an iphone. I really do think the xperia is a great device!
Tom
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In my opinion the iphone is a good phone... But, its boring. If u are not interested in changing anything and ur happy with the easy to use ui, then iphone will be fine. But if your like me and u like to tinker and change, then iphone will frustrate u. I try using my girlfriends iphone and I hate it.
On a side note it kind of annoys me when people constantly refer to their phones as iphone... Eg, call me on my iphone... Lol not a big deal, but its not like we go around saying call me on my x10
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In my opinion the iphone is a good phone... But, its boring. If u are not interested in changing anything and ur happy with the easy to use ui, then iphone will be fine.
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The iPhone app store is the best right now, you can find apps and a lot of games, I have been playing with my brother's new iPod touch and the app store is overwhelming other mobile stores, much richer apps and games.
I think for you to post this topic, you should probably go for the iphone 4.
Even if you decided to keep your x10, you would still dream about the iphone everyday and diss your x10. ( we have enough people whining over the x10 already )
So its simply better to just get the iphone.
I just find it sad that all the best games like ID's RAGE and N.O.V.A 2 are both i-phone only titles..
i personally hate my x10. its a loverly looking device, very sexy on par with the iphone 4 for looks but thats where it ends. my iphone 4 out performs my x10 in every way, speed, app design, clarity and ofcourse more and better apps. it is a reall shame SE have screwed up so badly with the x10, if it wasnt for their uselessness it would be a very decent phone. but as it stands right now its just another android phone, infact its not just another because unlike most android phones we are very limited on what we can do on it thanks to an uncracked bootloader.
my list gos: (of what ive owned)
iphone 4
dell streak
G1
x10
as soon as SE pull their finger out and support their devices better i will never buy another SE phone again. total let down
The way I see it:
iPhone: It's for the general user that doesn't know how his phone works and doesn't care to know. Someone that just wants something to do what it's meant to do and loose the ability to tailor it to his specific needs.
Android phone: Needs a more careful user but you get: a cheaper phone capable or even better on a lot of functions. Ability to run apps in background, adding memory by replacing the card (iphone haves internal fixed memory), ability to switch battery (essential to me while travelling).
I would rather have an android phone then the iphone. It could be a deferent android, such as the galaxy S, but for now the X10 haves everything I need.
Hey guys
I have owned HTC devices since the G1 n now i have the mytouch 4G rooted running Evil SD lates 2.3 port for it.
I wanna invest some money in a tablet. The MYT4G has a good size screen but sometimes it can strain your eyes when watching movies or heavy internet surfing. I want a portable tablet with the latets software and some of the newest feature. I have t mo. Here in the states. So the WiFi version of the Flyer is the only one available yet..
I have a questions. Your answers will help me deacide to buy one.
1. Does the Flyer have the ability to connect to a phones hotspot? Meaning if I tether wirelessly
2. I know there is no phone calls capabilities, but can you skype and quik?
3. Does it have a SD port?
4. And based on your experience with the device do you think it will be rootable in the future?
5. Also how does it sound? The speakers and w a headset is it real good.
Thanks I have many more questions but i think these r the most important for me. Any other things you think I should know prior to buying I would love to hear em.
Thanks for reading
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Yes to all of those, I have the 3g model, and love it the form factor of it is perfect. I've played with quite a few 10" and they aren't for me.
The only down side I can see to flyer its a touch heavy, but its no heavier than any tablets out at the moment, I just would preferred HTC to have put HTC on a wee diet.
The CPU is fast, the only slow down I've every had was first boot up whilst my apps where caching.
The speakers aren't great great, but there not bad, you could listen to music or watch a movie, saying that if I was listening to music I'd probably hook up some speakers.
But really loving the flyer.
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To answer your initial question, it really depends on what you are looking for. If you want a 7" device or the ability to write digital notes, highlight and mark on books, PDFs, and websites, or need to sketch/draw on the go, then yes, it is worth it simply because there is no other device that would allow you the features that the pen does. And if you are in the market for a 7" tablet, I would say it's the best 7" out right now.
To answer your other questions:
1.Yes, I have T-Mobile and have had no problem connecting it to my cell phone wirelessly
2. I was able to download Skype from the market; I don't use Skype, but I'm assuming it shouldn't be a problem. Could not find Qik in the market.
3. MicroSD port, yes
4. I've never rooted my devices, so I cannot say.
5.The sound is pretty clear and loud (this is based off watching videos, I haven't listen to music on here). I don't necessarily like the placement of the speakers, I thought they should have them on the both sides of the device for a more balanced stereo sound. But I'm into audio, so that's just my thought. But they are clear and can get loud when the volume is turned up to the max.
I have a few videos on my YouTube channel, CheckThisGadget, going over the HTC Flyer and doing the pen test. So that should help you in making your decision also.
Great device, as other have said.
In addition, as HTC release firmware updates I think it'll get faster as HTC optimise Sense and Honeycomb is supposed more efficient.
It lacks phone functionality..
They made a change to the market which causes my apps button to be accesible only by menu button.
A Lot of software available trough other devices ain't accessible by the flyers market.
HTC Watch sometimes works , sometimes not.
All by all .... I think a lot of work on the rom has to be done. It's not worth at THIS moment in my opinion.
To the OP, yes to the inquiries. I feel rooting will be dependent upon popularity of the device. Speakers are what you would expect from small compact drivers... A bit tinny, but okay.
IMO, the pen integration sets this device apart from other tablets. HTC did a good job adapting apps for pen usage. I used it extensively at meetings during the week, and it was impressive. If you don't have a need for the pen then, there are better options for tablets out their... Again in my opinion.
Thanks for all your replys
One of the post did make really consider what I wanted it for, n its basically to replace my phone in terms of web browsing n media player. I like to call using my phone I really don't see why I woulnt want a tablet to make a phone call. LOL but the 3g will make it real independent.
I'm not to crazy bout HTC scribe but its a very nice feature since I do go to college it would be great for note taking.
I also looked at the notion link tablet. Idk if its out or what but it looked great.
Thanks again for all the helpful replies I think I'm 95% leaning towards HTC flyer than moat devices.
firedog09 said:
Thanks for all your replys
One of the post did make really consider what I wanted it for, n its basically to replace my phone in terms of web browsing n media player. I like to call using my phone I really don't see why I woulnt want a tablet to make a phone call. LOL but the 3g will make it real independent.
I'm not to crazy bout HTC scribe but its a very nice feature since I do go to college it would be great for note taking.
I also looked at the notion link tablet. Idk if its out or what but it looked great.
Thanks again for all the helpful replies I think I'm 95% leaning towards HTC flyer than moat devices.
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I too considerd the Notion Ink a while back but decided against it due to the tablet coming from a small shop in India and support may or may not be up to par. Plus ordering one put you on a list as units were being built.
As for browsing the web, the Flyer is great. I enjoy surfing the web more on the Flyer than my Xoom. I have not had one force close on the Flyer yet which I cannot say for the Xoom. Tabbed browsing is missing for now but Honeycomb will fix that. The speakers are pretty good, not great. You can download an equalizer from the market that will help when using headphones.
Overall, it's a nice device and suits my needs perfectly (web browsing, email, occasional games)
Yes its worth it, it is the only true multi function 7 inch tablet on the market.
I got mine two days ago in Hong Kong and I'm really loving it! It cost ~USD 700 (for the Wifi + 3G version w/stylus). I have to say it's the perfect size and the screen resolution is perfect for browsing! I would say it's worth the USD 700 that I paid for. Now I just have to get a 3G data in China...
I'd say it is worth it. I rarely use my laptop now because I enjoy using my tablet for browsing, email, etc. I did buy the Scribe pen but I actually rarely use it. Maybe if there was more functionality for it (handwriting recognition, more app support) I would use it more. Still feels decently polished although I do miss Honeycomb and being able to download those true tablet apps.
I personally think, that if HTC engineered their Flyer tablet with Stantum display it would be a Killer device, a game changer. Seriously - a resistive display, that supports 10-finger multitouch is awesome. Notes, drawing, photo editing, CAD software on small screens, and, if it was used in a smartphone - imagine using your phone in winter without getting your gloves of. Hm, dreams, dreams...
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The old sceeen question.... I presonally own a pair a gloves with special tips for using screens in winter....
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If the performance of the resistive is anything like the old WM phones, then it wouldn't be an improvement. If you want a resistive screen android tablet, there are plenty of Chinese mid-tablets out there.
10 point touch sounds interesting, but why? Some of the app gestures requiring three finger touch is confusing enough.
Been thinking of getting a tablet so went into Currys today to have a look. love the screen on the GTab but found it was very laggy swipping through home screens? compared it to the Xoom next to it and that was smooth as silk?
I even reset the GTab to see if that would help but no change and if i put a live wallpaper on it got even worse? i tried all 3 they had on display and all the same, i did notice though they all had touchwiz installed?
I really like the GTab but was put off by this experience, can someone tell me if this is normal?
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Been thinking of getting a tablet so went into Currys today to have a look. love the screen on the GTab but found it was very laggy swipping through home screens? compared it to the Xoom next to it and that was smooth as silk?
I even reset the GTab to see if that would help but no change and if i put a live wallpaper on it got even worse? i tried all 3 they had on display and all the same, i did notice though they all had touchwiz installed?
I really like the GTab but was put off by this experience, can someone tell me if this is normal?
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Looking at Touchwiz update reviews on Youtube, it seems extremely laggy compared to my Xoom. Strangely all say it's really smooth after the Touchwiz update. I don't know, either they have never used a Xoom (Android 3.2) or I'm just seeing things.
But i couldn't resist and ordered the GT10.1 anyway, i guess i will find out soon enough...
I've had both the Xoom and the Tab.
Probably less than .0001% of my time is spent swipping through screens. A HUGE percentage of my time is spent holding the tablet. The reason I took the XOOM back is because my left hand ached (I'm right handed) at the end of the day holding the Xoom. It's heavy, deceptively heavy.
At the end of the day my left hand doesn't ache with the Tab.
Simple rule of thumb: Determine what you will do with the device most of your day and evaluate how it performs on that. Don't use fluff as a decision criteria.
With the latest update (TouchWiz) I have 0 lag. They need to get those display models updated to give potential buyers a REAL look at the current speed. I love my tab!!
Don't forget that, in a lot of videos, there are a bunch of widgets on every homescreen. That slows things down a lot. Moreover, with something like apps organizer, you really only need one homescreen. Lastly, the touchwiz update does help a lot - especially if you do the + button then go to the more tab thing.
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With the OTA excess widgets removed, and non-live wallpapers in-use seems pretty smooth for me.
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Don't forget that, in a lot of videos, there are a bunch of widgets on every homescreen.
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I was hoping that this is why it seems to be lagging so much.
I dont know about the xoom but having recently shifted from the asus transformer, i can tell you that the samsung tab lags in comparison. No offense intended but I personally find that even the stock rom i had with asus performed better than the finest custom roms over here ( even with fresh install with no apps installed). This is because both the xoom and tf are using very light and stock roms while samsung added a lot of bloatware with the touchwiz. Also i tend to believe the white theme adopted in touchwizz literally slows down the whole experience.
HOWEVER, inspite of tht, i do believe that the samsung tab is a premium quality device and outweighs the other tabs because of its weight and size.
Xoom: fast but very heavy
TF: fast but a bit heavy and too wide for a tablet. ( you cannot even type at ease using swift key)
Bear in mind that this is something that you ll be holding your hand for hours maybe.... So in the end size and weight might matter more than speed depending what you intend to do with it
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thanks for the replies they all help, was just a little put off by the fact that 3 demo machines were really laggy and stuttery.
TabGuy your right, i would hardly ever swipe between screens in normal use but its just the fact that that before you buy something you try it out and if something doesnt seem to be how you expect a premium device to work then that puts dought in your mind.
Its alot of money for me (as i am sure it is for others too) to be spending out on a device and i just want to make sure i get the right tab
fastyan said:
thanks for the replies they all help, was just a little put off by the fact that 3 demo machines were really laggy and stuttery.
TabGuy your right, i would hardly ever swipe between screens in normal use but its just the fact that that before you buy something you try it out and if something doesnt seem to be how you expect a premium device to work then that puts dought in your mind.
Its alot of money for me (as i am sure it is for others too) to be spending out on a device and i just want to make sure i get the right tab
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My tf died yesterday but i popped into currys tiday and got a white one having used the tf from day one i can say i much prefer the tab and havent noticed any lag at all yet. I had the tf on prime rom and oc kernel and it was great also but the tab for me wins out however as not to be flamed the tf is also a good unit esp if u want the dock sdcard etc
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think im gonna go for it, was going for the Xoom as currys have reduced the price to under £400 if you buy online but the GTab was calling my name lol.
wanted the SD card option really but have read about the new Seagate Go Flex satalite HDD which will solve all storage space problems which opens the door to the GTab
I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
If you are new to Android coming from the iPhone then you'll feel that way for a bit. I did miss my iPhone but once these awesome devs clear up some bugs you'll be really happy....if you like customizing. I couldn't stand iTunes so once I got around the noobness point, Android is so much nicer. The iPhone is more for people that just want to push an icon like my wife and kids.
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Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
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I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
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Yea if you are stock you shouldn't have too many problems. The beauty of the xda forum is you can tell us your problem and people get together to help solve it. Id rather use xda than talk to a genius any day.
Tell us what's wrong so we can help you.
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Most likely a bad device.
I have had mine since mid December...all stock, only updates via Kies.
It's been more stable than 2.2.2 on my Dell Streak.
As for a 5" iPhone, well, Jobs is gone so anything is possible.
You watch though...if Apple comes out with a screen anywhere near the
size of 5", the iphone fanbois will trumpet it out that it is an innovation and
the best thing in the world LOL.
lol you do realize stuff crashes consistantly on the iphone it just doesnt tell you right?
Force Closes are from improperly written apps. this happens, there are so many varients in the Android world it is hard to keep up with the changes.
Apple has a set screen size depending on the device, Android has many different screen sizes.
If you like to DUMB down then go back to the iPhone.
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I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
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First I was gonna tell you "see ya", but I guess I'll say that I have no, not one, force close and my device is closer to me than wrist watch or glasses... My device functions this way because I read about everyone else problems and solutions and either avoid the base situation, or utilize the communities experiences for the solution... Our Android family bought our grandfather an iPhone because of his age... Lmao. Does that tell you anything? If you must go then thanks for stopping by, but if you can stay, we will do our level best to match your enthusiasm and drive...
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i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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Blasphemy
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ferchope said:
i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
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lol! you must not need apps at all
astang99 said:
Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
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There was actually a study published a few months ago that showed that major iPhone apps actually crash more often than their Android counterparts; however, since the iPhone doesn't display a message to the user when that happens, and it doesn't give the users an option to report the crash, most iPhone users perceive fewer crashes. (In other words, they simply think that they must have hit the Home or Close buttons since all the iPhone does is crash back to their homescreens).
The second theory on why this is the case is that it's much easier and faster to release app updates on Android markets. Android devs can easily roll out responsive updates while iPhone devs have to submit every single update to Apple's ridiculous approval process.
Story here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/
The truth will set you free.
I've been running the I717 since day one and I've gotten exactly 1 FC from a weird app I downloaded. once I deleted it I was good. Try doing a factory reset and start fresh. download apps that have 4 or more stars. My phone has been a champ from day one with all the crap I throw at it (not even screen slowdowns like some are reporting). If you don't like it, you don't like it, there's no harm in that. All I know is my Ipod frustrates me something fierce when I use it so irritations go both ways. Hope you stick around, the stock ICS should be wandering through in the next couple of months. If you don't want to wait, I hear there's awesome Roms of ICS already. check it out.
I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
I haven't had an fc since i flashed team perfections latest pics rom. IPhones might be solid but they're so damn boring and plain
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Then Samsung should sue them for "copying"
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I feel like the microwave has screwed everything up. Of something takes a half second to open, we're screaming lag!!!
I like tech stuff but it's still a phone.
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I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
reyderosquillas said:
I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
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In my experience with android devices the major culprit for lag is on screen widgets that update. If you set up your device like ios with nothing but apps you will see no lag. If you use widgets and stuff you might redraw.
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I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
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Interesting observations. Honestly I see my Ipod lag a whole lot more than my note (or even my streak) with much much fewer apps. I mean I use my ipod for pandora, email and rage comics and running all three at once it lags something fierce. I can do all that with my note plus play temple run and not see a stutter. As for the in app adverts, apple is just as bad, but the funnier thing is, the ration of paid vs free apps in IOS is a lot higher in favor of paid apps than in android, which is probably why you see fewer ads in IOS. One thing I noticed with IOS is most apps, especially the free ones, rarely have over 3 stars, makes me wonder if they're really worth the time... All I know is, between IOS and android, I prefer android hands down, I can customize my UI how I want to, I can have widgets if I'd like and do virtually whatever I want with it. if you want I can talk with my buddy to see if he'll trade his 4S strait across for your note.
Hello guys,
I just wanted to know how your Xperia Z Ultra is!
I've been a Xperia P, Z user for about a year now, but now I'm looking forward for some Phablets!
I own a IPad 4 but it is too heavy to carry or to read something! So I planned to buy a Phablet!
Please let me know your true experience with your Z Ultra,
Please write battery life, performance, gaming and everything u feel bout it!
Also if you can compare with other Phablets then how many ratings out of 10 will u give?
Try with these :-
Samsung Galaxy Mega
HTC One Max
IPad Mini with Retina
Thank you.
Also if you have any other Phablets you know then please write it down!
I'm looking for 6' and more inch Phablet, not 5 so don't suggest Xperia Z1 lol!
Battery life is pretty good I use mine quite abit throughout day. Performance is good. Can get annoying with widget redraws but not enough to annoy me that much. Gaming is good I play fifa. Gta. And fm2014. All run great. I do like the design. I don't like sound quality but then again its waterproof which makes that a problem. Camera is poor as no flash. Ideally I would love the htc one max. As having a HTC one and this XZU. I would rather sell up just for a HTC one max.
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Well if you want the biggest phablet the ultra is king. But don't count on the camera. It's ok to take ok pictures. Men I love my ultra! I don't care for the camera or flash. Big screen and power love it.....
the Z Ultra is something for you, if:
-you have a big Pocket
-looking for a Phablet that has nearly the graphical and CPU power of an PS3 (just 15% of graphical power behind it)
-like big screens
-want to use nearly everything for the Touchscreen
-you already killed a Phone whith water
the Z Ultra isnt something for you, if:
-u need more than 11GB for Apps (than buy an Galaxy note 3 instead)
-you want to shoot Photos whith it
-your Pocket is too small
-you want to change the battery
and if the battery live isnt enugh you also can upgrade to 6050mAh whith an CP12, when this isnt enugh look for a cable which should direct you to a Desktop PC, thats using your Battery Live to run Battlefield 4 on Ultra graphics .
Thanks alot guys! Appreciate it!
Your suggestions mean alot to me
Ok u guys say camera is a bit dull but it's Ok as I just need for reading purpose!
Btw r there any special specific books for this device?
Coz I don't like the ones present in play store!
And what do u think should I go for it? Or u think Sony will release any other Phablet soon?
I saw Xperia T2 ultra but it's specs aren't as good as Z Ultra and I love Sony phones look so I don't feel like going for samsung!
HTC One Max is pretty good so let me hear some reviews from u guys!
Again thanks.
DeveDroid said:
Ok u guys say camera is a bit dull but it's Ok as I just need for reading purpose!
Btw r there any special specific books for this device?
Coz I don't like the ones present in play store
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i think thats not the problem, download Amazon Kindle App and you will find tonns of Books.
Lightbird said:
i think thats not the problem, download Amazon Kindle App and you will find tonns of Books.
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Ok thanks! But how do u feel while reading something? I mean is it comfortable? My IPad for reading purpose sucks!
DeveDroid said:
Ok thanks! But how do u feel while reading something? I mean is it comfortable? My IPad for reading purpose sucks!
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i think its a little bit like reading from a Kindle Touch. If you like that... .
cant say what you like and what you hate
Lightbird said:
i think its a little bit like reading from a Kindle Touch. If you like that... .
cant say what you like and what you hate
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Ok thanks, I will see and try this device before I buy!
Btw why there is so huge difference between HTC One Max nd Z Ultra Cost?
As far as I know Z Ultra offers more space but HTC One Max seems to be more costlier!
and if you mean the weight its just 250g much better than your Tablet.
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DeveDroid said:
Ok thanks, I will see and try this device before I buy!
Btw why there is so huge difference between HTC One Max nd Z Ultra Cost?
As far as I know Z Ultra offers more space but HTC One Max seems to be more costlier!
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the Max has also poor Hardware, ZU scores 35000 while Max is around 10000 or lesser in Antutu Benchmark (dunno the score of Max but its way lesser than ZU)
Lightbird said:
the Z Ultra isnt something for you, if:
-u need more than 11GB for Apps (than buy an Galaxy note 3 instead)
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Or use Folder Mount and move the game data to an external SD card
So the Ultra is a fantastic choice if you can handle the size.
I came from a Note 2 so I was already used to big phones but this is a league above that still.
It fits in your pockets if you need to, just dont look too awesome but for me I normally carry my phones any way and have a Pouch Case in case I need it for any reason as well.
As for performance, I love the Stock 4.3 Sony Roms. It is the best stock Rom I have ever tried on any phone. I just used some apps to modify things and remove ones I didnt care for to make it my own custom rom in a way.
Games run fantastic unless it is something horrible coded for Snapdragon. Emulators are super smooth as well.
The display quality is very detailed and aside from not having super deep blacks like Amoled, I prefer the quality of it.
The only drawbacks to me personally, are the battery not being replaceable and the lack of a flash (for flashlight purposes not for camera usage).
The camera is not the greatest but it can do a decent job if you shoot manually adjusting ISO.
Sound is not super clear but as mentioned, it is water proof so there is a tradeoff there of course.
The phone just feels AMAZING to hold specially naked (the phone not you!).
The small apps are also very nice to use the display for multi tasking and you can create them from your app widgets which is also nice.
Reading PDFs on it is very good at least to my eyes.
Good luck!
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Or use Folder Mount and move the game data to an external SD card
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one question:
i dont want to root because of Warranty, does folder mount work whithout it and if yes how to do it?
shaolin95 said:
Or use Folder Mount and move the game data to an external SD card
So the Ultra is a fantastic choice if you can handle the size.
I came from a Note 2 so I was already used to big phones but this is a league above that still.
It fits in your pockets if you need to, just dont look too awesome but for me I normally carry my phones any way and have a Pouch Case in case I need it for any reason as well.
As for performance, I love the Stock 4.3 Sony Roms. It is the best stock Rom I have ever tried on any phone. I just used some apps to modify things and remove ones I didnt care for to make it my own custom rom in a way.
Games run fantastic unless it is something horrible coded for Snapdragon. Emulators are super smooth as well.
The display quality is very detailed and aside from not having super deep blacks like Amoled, I prefer the quality of it.
The only drawbacks to me personally, are the battery not being replaceable and the lack of a flash (for flashlight purposes not for camera usage).
The camera is not the greatest but it can do a decent job if you shoot manually adjusting ISO.
Sound is not super clear but as mentioned, it is water proof so there is a tradeoff there of course.
The phone just feels AMAZING to hold specially naked (the phone not you!).
The small apps are also very nice to use the display for multi tasking and you can create them from your app widgets which is also nice.
Reading PDFs on it is very good at least to my eyes.
Good luck!
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Thanks for your precious time on commenting, hmm so it looks like I can go for this!
Q) Many forums and some peeps say it has heating and selftouch problems? Is that true? Do anyone of u face this?
Also many peeps say it doesn't seem to handle itself in cold weather! I live in cannada and u might know how weather is over here....
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Thanks for your precious time on commenting, hmm so it looks like I can go for this!
Q) Many forums and some peeps say it has heating and selftouch problems? Is that true? Do anyone of u face this?
Also many peeps say it doesn't seem to handle itself in cold weather! I live in cannada and u might know how weather is over here....
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Never had issues with overheating with it and the self touch issues from that I have read seems to have been fixed with latest ROM updates. Mine never had that issue but I upgraded right after I got it.
Not so sure about cold issues, I live in Utah so during the worst part of the winter we got about -14F and never noticed anything wrong with it although I didnt actively stayed outside to get frozen for too long so not sure
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one question:
i dont want to root because of Warranty, does folder mount work whithout it and if yes how to do it?
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Not sure if it is possible with other apps without rooting.
I always root my phones sorry
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Ok thanks! But how do u feel while reading something? I mean is it comfortable? My IPad for reading purpose sucks!
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I personally love Readmill. It's cross-platform, so you can get it on iOS too, and it also syncs between devices (i.e start reading on your iPad and resume on your [insert device]). It's a nice app if you have epubs etc. stored locally (on SD card/internal memory), but it doesn't have a large in-app store if that's your thing.
Regarding the One Max, meh. It's big and all, but it's hardly a phablet. It's more like a big phone and it's exactly like the One, but bigger. No special features or anything. The Ultra on the other hand is a phablet with a big P. The UI is properly sized for its screen size, while the Max' UI is just blown up. Again, it's a large phone.
I'm having some "issues" with my Ultra though. You've probably read my post about the screen acting up when it's cold outside. It doesn't affect its usability though, but it just looks weird for a minute. I haven't read about anyone else having this issue, so i'm assuming it's a production error from Sony's side.
Battery life is pretty good. I didn't expect anything amazing since it's so thin, but i got properly surprised. Here's a screenshot from yesterday. I watched tv shows all day, watched a movie (Bad Grandpa), browsed, read some news (with Press) messed with some camera modules and so on. That's how long the screen was on, not the device itself. Not bad for a 6.4mm thick device with a full HD display. It'll last even longer if you're big on reading ebooks. It tends to only drop about 1% from i go to bed to i wake up (8 hours) with Stamina enabled (cuts apps' data connection while in standby, unless you whitelist some apps).
Camera? Don't go to a Victoria's Secret party expecting amazing photos and memories. They'll probably end up looking like manatees. Fine, it's not that bad, but there's a lot of noise in them, so it's absolutely not the go-to camera if it's a little dark, or even dim. It performs okay in daylight though.
Screen? It's really good. You're not used to AMOLEDs(?) since you're coming from an iPad, so it doesn't have the deep blacks, but the colors are much much better and more true to life. I don't think you'll have any complaints.
Audio? It's not a boomblaster, but it does its job (for me at least). Most people tend to forget that the built-in equalizer has an option called "xLOUD" and it'll boost the speaker volume. It's really loud (for me) when xLOUD is enabled, and i have never ever pushed the volume to max.
Software? I like it. It's stable and fairly lightweight (compared to TouchWiz and whatever that 10 year old designed for LG) and very fast. It has "Small apps" which are small floating apps, that floats on top of whatever you're doing. Writing an email and want to check the curling score (go Norway!), hit the multitasking button and hit the "small browser", and BOOM! A tiny browser window opens up on top of your email, and you're free to read about Canada's loss without leaving the email app.
Yes, i'm the guy who only want to share or say one short thing, but goes way beyond that and writes a novel. I wanted to mention Readmill, and look at this.. it's the work of a madman (@shaolin95 totally knows what i'm talking about). Sorry!
I have a ZU and love it!!! I came from a note 2 and was gonna go for a note 3 but the ZU is just plain sexy and is a beast.
Im also in Canada so the waterproofing also works in snow (Ive dropped a few cells in snow banks and such)
Its a killer device, great on the eyes and is perfect for some one like me who gave up there cell and 7in tablet for this.
LordManhattan said:
I personally love Readmill. It's cross-platform, so you can get it on iOS too, and it also syncs between devices (i.e start reading on your iPad and resume on your [insert device]). It's a nice app if you have epubs etc. stored locally (on SD card/internal memory), but it doesn't have a large in-app store if that's your thing.
Regarding the One Max, meh. It's big and all, but it's hardly a phablet. It's more like a big phone and it's exactly like the One, but bigger. No special features or anything. The Ultra on the other hand is a phablet with a big P. The UI is properly sized for its screen size, while the Max' UI is just blown up. Again, it's a large phone.
I'm having some "issues" with my Ultra though. You've probably read my post about the screen acting up when it's cold outside. It doesn't affect its usability though, but it just looks weird for a minute. I haven't read about anyone else having this issue, so i'm assuming it's a production error from Sony's side.
Battery life is pretty good. I didn't expect anything amazing since it's so thin, but i got properly surprised. Here's a screenshot from yesterday. I watched tv shows all day, watched a movie (Bad Grandpa), browsed, read some news (with Press) messed with some camera modules and so on. That's how long the screen was on, not the device itself. Not bad for a 6.4mm thick device with a full HD display. It'll last even longer if you're big on reading ebooks. It tends to only drop about 1% from i go to bed to i wake up (8 hours) with Stamina enabled (cuts apps' data connection while in standby, unless you whitelist some apps).
Camera? Don't go to a Victoria's Secret party expecting amazing photos and memories. They'll probably end up looking like manatees. Fine, it's not that bad, but there's a lot of noise in them, so it's absolutely not the go-to camera if it's a little dark, or even dim. It performs okay in daylight though.
Screen? It's really good. You're not used to AMOLEDs(?) since you're coming from an iPad, so it doesn't have the deep blacks, but the colors are much much better and more true to life. I don't think you'll have any complaints.
Audio? It's not a boomblaster, but it does its job (for me at least). Most people tend to forget that the built-in equalizer has an option called "xLOUD" and it'll boost the speaker volume. It's really loud (for me) when xLOUD is enabled, and i have never ever pushed the volume to max.
Software? I like it. It's stable and fairly lightweight (compared to TouchWiz and whatever that 10 year old designed for LG) and very fast. It has "Small apps" which are small floating apps, that floats on top of whatever you're doing. Writing an email and want to check the curling score (go Norway!), hit the multitasking button and hit the "small browser", and BOOM! A tiny browser window opens up on top of your email, and you're free to read about Canada's loss without leaving the email app.
Yes, i'm the guy who only want to share or say one short thing, but goes way beyond that and writes a novel. I wanted to mention Readmill, and look at this.. it's the work of a madman (@shaolin95 totally knows what i'm talking about). Sorry!
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Thank you for your wonderful explanation!
mistamikel said:
I have a ZU and love it!!! I came from a note 2 and was gonna go for a note 3 but the ZU is just plain sexy and is a beast.
Im also in Canada so the waterproofing also works in snow (Ive dropped a few cells in snow banks and such)
Its a killer device, great on the eyes and is perfect for some one like me who gave up there cell and 7in tablet for this.
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Thanks alot bro!
Ahh...now I'm satisfied as u too live in cannada!
Thank you for support!