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My Phone's pretty warm, never experienced this from a cell phone before. A guesstimate would be it's 15-20 degrees over ambient. Normal?
MerCiLeSS28 said:
My Phone's pretty warm, never experienced this from a cell phone before. A guesstimate would be it's 15-20 degrees over ambient. Normal?
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Sounds like the CPU is running full blast. Soft Reset usually fixes it.
Yeh battery is dieing fast, very fast, 20% a hour so far O_O
this same thing happened to me two days ago and i was so freaked out. even a soft reset doesnt fix. I switched ROMs but i think a hard reset will fix it
For me it was a soft reset. I had just loaded 21725 and went on the road using ATT Navigator. The Fuze got HOT and discharged at a furious rate...20% per hour or more. When I got to destination I soft reset, (turned off GPS as no longer needed), and did a car charger trick. It worked and did not repeat even though I used the gps again.
derylmccarty said:
For me it was a soft reset. I had just loaded 21725 and went on the road using ATT Navigator. The Fuze got HOT and discharged at a furious rate...20% per hour or more. When I got to destination I soft reset, (turned off GPS as no longer needed), and did a car charger trick. It worked and did not repeat even though I used the gps again.
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The Touch Pros or Fuzes are notorious for running hot if the GPS chip is being used.
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The Touch Pros or Fuzes are notorious for running hot if the GPS chip is being used.
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Or wireless for that matter. If I leave my wireless on while charging it can get really hot
mine was getting hot enough to shut down and burning through the battery faster than the charger could replinish it
Mine would get very hot using BT when I had MSVC installed. Now I use ROMS w/o MSVC, and the only time it runs warm is using ATT Navigator. I solved that problem as well with creative use of dental floss and a big paper clip to secure it to a vent while running the air conditioning ;P
I haven't come across anyone else having temp issues using MSVC, but in my experience using a dozen different ROMS or so, it has always caused my phone to run hot - and I don't like hot electronics.
Out of curiosity, anyone else hold the same opinion of MSVC?
Not MSVC alone, but the more processes running from start up like MSVC then of course the harder the processor works which equals heat. Add multiple processes with Wifi, 3G connection, & GPS or any number of other processes with the heat from the LCD & it'll heat up quickly.
Unless I am using the net, I usually force GSM or Edge mode. Battery lasts longer & unit stays cooler.
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Not MSVC alone, but the more processes running from start up like MSVC then of course the harder the processor works which equals heat. Add multiple processes with Wifi, 3G connection, & GPS or any number of other processes with the heat from the LCD & it'll heat up quickly.
Unless I am using the net, I usually force GSM or Edge mode. Battery lasts longer & unit stays cooler.
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Thanks GSLEON3,
Now you've done it. The monkey on my back wants more!
Must... Flash... Test... Voice... Control... MUHUHAHAHA
I suppose it's worth checking out and seeing what exactly "enhanced" means for myself. If I can control the temp, I'll like using it.
I love the free WiFi Tether app but it drains my battery even while using the wall charger. Anyone else experiencing this? Any solutions?
sjamie said:
I love the free WiFi Tether app but it drains my battery even while using the wall charger. Anyone else experiencing this? Any solutions?
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Turn down the transmission (Tx) power if you don't mind losing a little bit of signal. This is irrelevant if your device(s) are within close proximity to the phone anyway.
slmclarengt said:
Turn down the transmission (Tx) power if you don't mind losing a little bit of signal. This is irrelevant if your device(s) are within close proximity to the phone anyway.
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Ok, I'll give it a try. Do you also experience battery drain even while charging when using full transmission power?
Mine works without drain. When I'm gonna use it for a long time I lay it on an ice pack to avoid heating.
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Ok, I'll give it a try. Do you also experience battery drain even while charging when using full transmission power?
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Depends what else I'm doing. If you minimize power consumption otherwise (screen off, only 3G on, end background apps such as music streaming or navigation), you should be about even with power draw/charge. Note that if you use 4G to tether wirelessly (after rooting), that will drain more battery than its 3G counterpart. The stock charger is rated at 850mA so there really should not be any issues.
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Depends what else I'm doing. If you minimize power consumption otherwise (screen off, only 3G on, end background apps such as music streaming or navigation), you should be about even with power draw/charge. Note that if you use 4G to tether wirelessly (after rooting), that will drain more battery than its 3G counterpart. The stock charger is rated at 850mA so there really should not be any issues.
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I leave 4g on and tether and I never see it drain. It may be slower to charge but never seen it drain. Also my phone doesn't get hot just a little warm but that's bout it
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Turn down the transmission (Tx) power if you don't mind losing a little bit of signal. This is irrelevant if your device(s) are within close proximity to the phone anyway.
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I looked around the Settings in Wifi Tether for this but didn't find anything about the Tx power. Are you referring to the phone's Tx power?
I finally did a real test of this app while traveling this weekend and it felt overheated to the touch. I had it plugged into my computer via USB cable and it wasn't charging b/c it was so hot.
Is the Tx power reduction the best way to help this heating problem? I was really disappointed that the battery stopped keeping a charge and only after a few minutes, literally just about 10 minutes of running the tether app. This is the same thing that happened on my Touch Pro and I was hoping that this wouldn't happen when I upgraded to Android!
asuh said:
I looked around the Settings in Wifi Tether for this but didn't find anything about the Tx power. Are you referring to the phone's Tx power?
I finally did a real test of this app while traveling this weekend and it felt overheated to the touch. I had it plugged into my computer via USB cable and it wasn't charging b/c it was so hot.
Is the Tx power reduction the best way to help this heating problem? I was really disappointed that the battery stopped keeping a charge and only after a few minutes, literally just about 10 minutes of running the tether app. This is the same thing that happened on my Touch Pro and I was hoping that this wouldn't happen when I upgraded to Android!
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Try the Wifi Tether app from Open Garden - free in the Market.
pwrmedia said:
Try the Wifi Tether app from Open Garden - free in the Market.
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Thanks for the heads up, I see there's a little section for transmission power there. That said, after I install it, it says I have the ability to change Access Control, whatever that means.
Also, It doesn't appear to have a WPA Encryption method. I am not a fan of WEP. Is this an ongoing development that will eventually add WPA? I looked for a FAQ but it doesn't exist anymore.
I was I just wondering has anyone used their note for a long distance drive. the reason I ask is because using my stock charger or Any one as a matter a fact my Battery still drains even while.plugged.in.and pretty fast maybe 1 percent every 6 minutes if not Sooner.just wanted to know if anyone has the same problem?
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Go ahead and get yourself one of these babies, and you're set
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339221289&sr=8-1
Long story short, it's shorted so that the Note receives more power. Someone can explain it to you in a more verbose fashion, but rest assured, my Gnote still charges slowly up, even when running google maps, music, and screen brightness on high.
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I was I just wondering has anyone used their note for a long distance drive. the reason I ask is because using my stock charger or Any one as a matter a fact my Battery still drains even while.plugged.in.and pretty fast maybe 1 percent every 6 minutes if not Sooner.just wanted to know if anyone has the same problem?
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I use my note for 2-3 hours drives each week, and here's the key....if you're comfortable with your GPS app like I am, its a breeze, and an awesome solution. But there are a few key things. 4g is a battery drain enough on its own. Add that to the fact that you'll be driving through multiple cell zones, often with 3 or more cell sites in each one, and the note will he speaking to all of them. That alone will eat your battery like Michael Jackson ate children (all celebs are cannibals...ya know?), so there are two options for the battery issue.
Option one: Turn off mobile data completely, and use one of the many offline mobile GPS apps out there...start your route with mobile data on to pull down traffic data, and to route you around traffic jams, construction, or accidents...I use Navigon, and its the only app I've seen that can do all of this seamlessly. For other reasons too, Navigon is the best. It shows the speed limit, and warns you about red light cameras, or gives you audio warnings if you're going a certain preset amount over the speed limit. Also, when your driving on the toll way looking for an exit, it displays a HUD like visual representation on which lanes are okay to be in. Instead of just saying "stay right" it'll show you a picture of the toll way with 4 lanes...and 3 of them might have arrows in them, while the other has an x-mark in it. There are multiple voices and a dons, and once you download the maps, you're finished. In just 1.8 gigs, I can have a complete map of the whole contiguous United States and Canada.
This is the best software option for me. I've tried solutions that are free, and even for iOS, the graphics and design is better with navigon than Tom Tom or Copilot. Its well worth the 40 dollars, but you can often buy a region....say, the Midwest, the east coast, or the west coast for cheaper. Or you can wait for it to go on sale, and grab a North America or USA & Canada, or USA and Mexico Combo for 20 dollars. Whenever I've looked, its been on sale about fifty percent of the time.
Next, the battery options, you can do what I do, and use a travel battery pack that will charge a second battery without the phone having to be plugged in, and without the awkward cable setup that comes with mounting a plugged in phone, or keeping one on your lap.
Since our phones charge extremely slow from a car/cigarette port while using them, I find this to be the best option for staying juiced.
Secondly, its possibly to keep your battery at a certain level, or even charge it at a slow rate if you use good practices: know your route in general, and get familiar with the general outline of your route. After about an hour of using the app, you'll become confident in the solution enough to work on audio instruction alone. Use a headset--a wired one preferably...Bluetooth sucks in every way possible...its short range, it eats batteries like al roker ate funnel cakes, and it is terribly unstable and difficult to use, even for the jedi-minds here. Its improved somewhat over the years...but the goal here is to use a reasonable amount of power. Download your podcasts or music over wifi before you leave, and save power by only using the screen when you need to.
With a headset, my podcasts going, and my phone in 2g mode, I've found that my phone actually charges with the screen on its lowest setting (seeing any screen in the daylight is almost impossible for any device, no matter how powerful, or premium, or expensive it is, but using g it like this at night isn't an issue), and the audio is playing through the onboard speaker, or I'm playing music through the device via headset. I can sometimes even stream audio and use the speaker....though its not really loud enough to hear over almost any car going 55 MPH.
Make sure your car charger is rated for 1.0 amps, or 1000miliamps..at least. I don't know if the note can pull more or not...but even in the worst case scenario, if you had the travel battery pack (which, for thirty dollars gets you a wall charger, an additional stock OEM battery (none of the voodoo-magic extended battery crap that actually gives you worse battery life, under or over powers your phone, or only lasts 100 charging cycles), and a external battery case which will fit into any pocket you have (unless you wear skinny jeans....ew.), and will charge any note battery)) if you're phone died and you forgot to place your extra battery on the charger, in about 20 minute or so, you'd Be powered back up with enough juice to get you going again. After you placed your battery in the charger and plugged it in.
Lastly, you could get a power inverter from amazon or best buy (I would never buy some cheap Chinese version from amazon. I'd buy a brand name one from walmart or radio shack or even best buy) and you'd be able to charge your device at home/wall speeds.
Just using a few tricks, you'll never need to replace or run out of battery, and its likely you'll never even use a percent. But doing dome things with any phone will ensure you either don't make it to your destination, or that when you do arrive, you do so at 1-2%, of even worse....0%.
I think the Note charger travel pack is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't ever plug my phone in anymore. I bring the battery pack with me, and use a collapsing wall plug with a retractable micriusb cable to plug the pack in and charge my second battery...this means I can just plug my extra battery pack in at Barnes and nobles, my friends, etc...while still using my phone. I can even plug the pack into a computer and walk away. Which is great for long days at work, and means I can use my note 24/7 and never ever have to worry about battery life.
Sorry for the walk of text...and my goofy disposition. Its late and I'm so tired that I'm slap happy. But, to summarize, every device has it's shortcomings, but by spending only thirty dollars...I found away around the only real problem with the device--battery life.
The device is amazing in every way now.
I stopped using my $1300 laptop when I got my TF101 a year ago, and I stopped using my tablet for anything but reading and one fishing game since I got my phone.
AMAZINN!
Yeah I've noticed that my note charges indefinitely with that charger. My mom has one in her car and I thought I was crazy at first thinking that it charged my phone faster than stock.but I noticed that using that charger in her car no matter what I did using GPS and on lte the phone would still charge.when I turn my phone off and let it sit it's like magic.my phone charges really quickly.are there any threads that can explain more in dept why this happens with this charger?
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Jamesyboy said:
I use my note for 2-3 hours drives each week, and here's the key....if you're comfortable with your GPS app like I am, its a breeze, and an awesome solution. But there are a few key things. 4g is a battery drain enough on its own. Add that to the fact that you'll be driving through multiple cell zones, often with 3 or more cell sites in each one, and the note will he speaking to all of them. That alone will eat your battery like Michael Jackson ate children (all celebs are cannibals...ya know?), so there are two options for the battery issue.
Option one: Turn off mobile data completely, and use one of the many offline mobile GPS apps out there...start your route with mobile data on to pull down traffic data, and to route you around traffic jams, construction, or accidents...I use Navigon, and its the only app I've seen that can do all of this seamlessly. For other reasons too, Navigon is the best. It shows the speed limit, and warns you about red light cameras, or gives you audio warnings if you're going a certain preset amount over the speed limit. Also, when your driving on the toll way looking for an exit, it displays a HUD like visual representation on which lanes are okay to be in. Instead of just saying "stay right" it'll show you a picture of the toll way with 4 lanes...and 3 of them might have arrows in them, while the other has an x-mark in it. There are multiple voices and a dons, and once you download the maps, you're finished. In just 1.8 gigs, I can have a complete map of the whole contiguous United States and Canada.
This is the best software option for me. I've tried solutions that are free, and even for iOS, the graphics and design is better with navigon than Tom Tom or Copilot. Its well worth the 40 dollars, but you can often buy a region....say, the Midwest, the east coast, or the west coast for cheaper. Or you can wait for it to go on sale, and grab a North America or USA & Canada, or USA and Mexico Combo for 20 dollars. Whenever I've looked, its been on sale about fifty percent of the time.
Next, the battery options, you can do what I do, and use a travel battery pack that will charge a second battery without the phone having to be plugged in, and without the awkward cable setup that comes with mounting a plugged in phone, or keeping one on your lap.
Since our phones charge extremely slow from a car/cigarette port while using them, I find this to be the best option for staying juiced.
Secondly, its possibly to keep your battery at a certain level, or even charge it at a slow rate if you use good practices: know your route in general, and get familiar with the general outline of your route. After about an hour of using the app, you'll become confident in the solution enough to work on audio instruction alone. Use a headset--a wired one preferably...Bluetooth sucks in every way possible...its short range, it eats batteries like al roker ate funnel cakes, and it is terribly unstable and difficult to use, even for the jedi-minds here. Its improved somewhat over the years...but the goal here is to use a reasonable amount of power. Download your podcasts or music over wifi before you leave, and save power by only using the screen when you need to.
With a headset, my podcasts going, and my phone in 2g mode, I've found that my phone actually charges with the screen on its lowest setting (seeing any screen in the daylight is almost impossible for any device, no matter how powerful, or premium, or expensive it is, but using g it like this at night isn't an issue), and the audio is playing through the onboard speaker, or I'm playing music through the device via headset. I can sometimes even stream audio and use the speaker....though its not really loud enough to hear over almost any car going 55 MPH.
Make sure your car charger is rated for 1.0 amps, or 1000miliamps..at least. I don't know if the note can pull more or not...but even in the worst case scenario, if you had the travel battery pack (which, for thirty dollars gets you a wall charger, an additional stock OEM battery (none of the voodoo-magic extended battery crap that actually gives you worse battery life, under or over powers your phone, or only lasts 100 charging cycles), and a external battery case which will fit into any pocket you have (unless you wear skinny jeans....ew.), and will charge any note battery)) if you're phone died and you forgot to place your extra battery on the charger, in about 20 minute or so, you'd Be powered back up with enough juice to get you going again. After you placed your battery in the charger and plugged it in.
Lastly, you could get a power inverter from amazon or best buy (I would never buy some cheap Chinese version from amazon. I'd buy a brand name one from walmart or radio shack or even best buy) and you'd be able to charge your device at home/wall speeds.
Just using a few tricks, you'll never need to replace or run out of battery, and its likely you'll never even use a percent. But doing dome things with any phone will ensure you either don't make it to your destination, or that when you do arrive, you do so at 1-2%, of even worse....0%.
I think the Note charger travel pack is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't ever plug my phone in anymore. I bring the battery pack with me, and use a collapsing wall plug with a retractable micriusb cable to plug the pack in and charge my second battery...this means I can just plug my extra battery pack in at Barnes and nobles, my friends, etc...while still using my phone. I can even plug the pack into a computer and walk away. Which is great for long days at work, and means I can use my note 24/7 and never ever have to worry about battery life.
Sorry for the walk of text...and my goofy disposition. Its late and I'm so tired that I'm slap happy. But, to summarize, every device has it's shortcomings, but by spending only thirty dollars...I found away around the only real problem with the device--battery life.
The device is amazing in every way now.
I stopped using my $1300 laptop when I got my TF101 a year ago, and I stopped using my tablet for anything but reading and one fishing game since I got my phone.
AMAZINN!
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Thanks I will definitely look into navigon.just out of curiosity when using navigon off line from gps how accurate is it?.what I envy iphones for is their quick triangulation on google maps without gps.while Androids need gps to get any where close to where I am.to lead me somewhere
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Not exactly true. If you have your location services enabled then google maps will find you almost instantly within a certain range. I have yet to even use my gps yet on my note with maps and for the first time it has me shown within a quarter mile. Distance will vary with the amount of towers close by.
Navigon uses the gps. It should show you within a few feet if you are out in the open sky. Just the same as any other gps app. And I second Navigon. I have tried Sygic and Ndrive also and have found Navigon to be by far the best.
Edit: Just went outside to test the GPS for the first time. Damn this thing was quick. Connected in under 30 seconds.
Traditional 500mA car chargers just won't cut it.
Buy a power inverter and use the stock or similar 1.0A/1000mA charger and you will be able to use GPS/Bluetooth/4GLTE with screen on and still charge the phone! One warning though, the battery will get very warm with all of this running. But it will charge despite the heavy use.
bulldog212 said:
Traditional 500mA car chargers just won't cut it.
Buy a power inverter and use the stock or similar 1.0A/1000mA charger and you will be able to use GPS/Bluetooth/4GLTE with screen on and still charge the phone! One warning though, the battery will get very warm with all of this running. But it will charge despite the heavy use.
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Yeah I know that .the note is too power hungry for 500 mah chargers. when using that motorla charger listed above in my cart and using my phone with gps and lte I have seen temps as high as 129
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Drove from Maine to Camp Lejeune, a marathon drive of about 15hrs with Navigon, and Bluetooth audio running the entire trip. I am using the Samsung car dock, and the phone stayed fully charged the whole trip.
Been very happy with the samsung car dock, price was good too.
What stinks is that the Motorola charger you posted about, the one I have, puts out 850Mah to the phone. And even that is still not enough to charge while in use. In fact,, it doesn't even maintain..... Does this phone really use that much energy to operate?
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Agoattamer said:
Not exactly true. If you have your location services enabled then google maps will find you almost instantly within a certain range. I have yet to even use my gps yet on my note with maps and for the first time it has me shown within a quarter mile. Distance will vary with the amount of towers close by.
Navigon uses the gps. It should show you within a few feet if you are out in the open sky. Just the same as any other gps app. And I second Navigon. I have tried Sygic and Ndrive also and have found Navigon to be by far the best.
Edit: Just went outside to test the GPS for the first time. Damn this thing was quick. Connected in under 30 seconds.
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Yeah that's exactly what im talking about , within your location services settings if you disable the gps function and go to Google maps and click try and find my location . Their is a huge blue halo in which you could possible be your location which doesn't help when your somewhere unfamiliar. Im not a ios fan to say the least but in that aspect i find their google maps much more consumer friendly in every day usage. I used my mothers iphone while she as at work for directions for deliveries at the restaurant i work at because it was so quick to show me the route i needed and find me while my note would take maybe 15-30 or so seconds to find what i needed. Although iphones dont have turn by turn which was annoying at times looking down at a small 3.5 in screen
Im using Navigon now. Even though the lastest Navigon let you start the app, HOWEVER WITHOUT DATA it doesnt accurate. You still need GPS+data to make it works.
Side note: Anyone know any ISC Rom now works with Navigon?
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I had this prob too!
I bought an Energizer car charger that doubles as a wall mount charger. The key is it charges @ 2amps all the time. I NOW have a positive charge while driving at normal screen brightness AND GPS AND streaming Radio on 4g.
Im %99.9 sure you can do the same as long as your car mount charger is geared for 2 amps (Most are NOT)
There is another thread in here somewhere that address the charing aspects of the G-Note.
First off, they suggest getting a charger, that has two USB slots, one is a 1Amp and the other is 2Amp USB, so then you have 2Amps charging.
Does not really get to that much, so you need to buy a USB direct charge adaptor, which allows for the Note to charge in HIGH charge like at home, rather then trickle.
Works great for me,
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Something else to take into account is the USB cable you are using with your chargers. If it is a data cable it will not charge at full capacity, you need to have a USB cable that is for charging only, it has the two line for data shorted. This make a huge difference. Even if you have the 2 AMP charger you will have issue with a data cable when charging.
have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671083
I use a Rocketfish charger in the car and on a two hour road trip using GPS all the way and all phone services active it ended up about 5 or 6 percent higher than when I started the trip.
I'm uploading a video to my Facebook account and the back of the phone up by the camera is burning hot. It's like putting a wet rag in a microwave for 1 min on high. But when the video stops uploading, you can actually feel it cooling down. Has anyone felt this before? Can my phone be defective? Can someone try uploading a 2 min video to Facebook and let me know if their phone gets super hot?
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Mine gets pretty hot when I use heavy 3g
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I've noticed some heat issues as well....currently rooted and under locked to 1ghz, haven't noticed it since
My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
My phone also gets very hot. It only happens if I'm in a very weak signal area and.I'm either doing heavy gaming or heavy web browsing. Both of which take a pretty heavy toll on battery life. There have been times though were I will just stop whatever I'm doing and just let it cool off for a bit though...doesnt take to long for it to cool down.
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Tested it again uploading and I noticed the heat starts on the left side of the camera if you are looking at the back of the phone.
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Yep same side for me to
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ilusnforc said:
My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
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I was using my phone as a GPS and an audio source during a 3 hour trip to Rehoboth beach and had it attached to a 450 mA car charger. First of all, the charger was not powerful enough to actually charge the phone as I would actually lose juice during the trip and the phone would actually tell me it used more energy than it replenished. Second, I'm guessing because there was not enough current to charge and bypass the battery, there was a lot of current flow through the battery. Combining with the heat of the radio trying to grab weak 3G signals in the rural areas of the trip, my evo started flashing an alternating green and red. Awkwardly, the user manual has no mention of this notification state, but I assumed it was an overheated battery (the phone was getting scarily hot). As soon as I unplugged the charger, the notification light would return to normal and the phone would cool down.
Anyway, point of the story is, the phone will at least warn you when the battery is getting too hot. I wouldn't worry too much about the radios, but yes my antennas do get pretty hot especially in poor reception areas.
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ilusnforc said:
My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
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I use Waze as well every morning and afternoon for a 35 mile each way commute and it does get hot just using that app. Luckily I use the Bracketron - Grip-iT Mobile Device Holder from Best Buy, on sale for $13.99 right now. It just clips on the A/C vents and when the A/C is on, the phone is never hot while using the app. The only bad thing is the placement of the USB port on the phone but I can still plug in using this holder. Hope it helps!
this CPU is clocked the same as CPU's in some old PCs and some current laptops and it has no cooling, plus the heat from the radios etc, pretty sure the only way to offset the heat is to under clock it or don't buy a super phone. all my smartphones back to the mogul have all gotten hot, actually i remember my old i870 flip phone got hot when in long phone calls
My evo also gets very hot... So hot it starts to burn my leg when it's in my pocket at work. Also the screen has started to separate from the body, im assuming the glue is melting because when you press the screen on the left side you can hear it click back into place. Can I get this replaced under the warranty?
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I just picked up the car dock over the weekend and it gets even hotter (sitting in the sun and having less air circulation behind the phone). When I parked to get out of the car it almost hurts to touch the phone its so hot. I ordered a new mount for the car dock that will put it right in front of an air conditioning vent so hopefully that will help to cool it down. I've also read that if you have an under powered 12V charger it will cause it to get hot. Going to try a different charger with the dock and see what happens.
My phone gets hot like hell when I'm using HERE Drive+ or Waze.
Is it normal?
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Pedrorudi said:
My phone gets hot like hell when I'm using HERE Drive+ or Waze.
Is it normal?
ps.: posted on the wrong section, sorry.
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from my experience if GPS used for long time (> 30 minutes) my nokia 920 get hot.
boril said:
from my experience if GPS used for long time (> 30 minutes) my nokia 920 get hot.
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And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
Pedrorudi said:
And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
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most of the time i used a car charger, so really don't know about the battery drain
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And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
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It is a little higher than normal, but not exactly abnormal.
Here Drive does smash my phone too, but it's less.. abusive on GDR3.
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It is a little higher than normal, but not exactly abnormal.
Here Drive does smash my phone too, but it's less.. abusive on GDR3.
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Nice, I can't wait Microsoft release GDR3!
I'm a person who is a heave GPS user, I need that on my phone without battery drain or phone getting hot
OMG, I've just installed the GDR3 Preview and I must say. GPS improved A LOT! It doesn't make my L920 burn anymore, and the Battery drain is better now.
Actually I use Here Drive also and the battery not only gets hot, but also drains really fast... in fact faster than any charger can charge the phone, so even when it is connected to charger it still drains battery at about 10%~20% per hour. The only cure is to turn off the phone for about 5 min and turn it back on and after a couple of sessions of Here Drive the same thing happens again until you do a cold power cycle again.
I have sent the phone back for service and even complained to Nokia and that did not do anything. In my opinion this seems to be a hardware design flaw with the GPS or the SoC in this phone. I have had this issue ever since I got this phone in Dec 2013. I have the latest available update on it as well.
Battery life is really not a strong point on this phone, and the GPS is not very good at all. Can't rely on the navigation on this phone for a long trip since you will drain your battery, even if it is plugged in to charger.
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Battery life is really not a strong point on this phone, and the GPS is not very good at all. Can't rely on the navigation on this phone for a long trip since you will drain your battery, even if it is plugged in to charger.
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I have to disagree with your statements ... I have used both HERE Drive and Navigon all day with out the drainage issues that you mention -- in fact, the phone will charge while using the navigation ... BUT, there are some things that I have noticed:
Not all charges are the same ... I had some that were not able to charge the phone while using the navigation.
Not all cars are the same -- I have a charger that works in my Rav4 without problems ... went on a trip and rented a Chevy Cruz, and the same charger was not able to keep the phone from discharging when using the navigation -- and it got hot -- that was not the case with the Rav4. I switched to the USB connection in the Cruz -- and it was better, but did not solve the charging issue, although it did not get as hot when using it -- but it did not seem to be able to increase the charge on the phone.
The phone's GPS works without problems -- locks on, and provides good information -- especially if you are using a nav program that has the maps installed in the phone.
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Not all charges are the same ... I had some that were not able to charge the phone while using the navigation.
Not all cars are the same -- I have a charger that works in my Rav4 without problems ... went on a trip and rented a Chevy Cruz, and the same charger was not able to keep the phone from discharging when using the navigation -- and it got hot -- that was not the case with the Rav4. I switched to the USB connection in the Cruz -- and it was better, but did not solve the charging issue, although it did not get as hot when using it -- but it did not seem to be able to increase the charge on the phone.
The phone's GPS works without problems -- locks on, and provides good information -- especially if you are using a nav program that has the maps installed in the phone.
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I wasn't very clear about the GPS function on the phone. My complaint is NOT the GPS accuracy and speed, but the fact that using GPS drains the battery while in use and reduces the battery life significantly even after quitting the application until the phone is rebooted. I apologize for not being clear on that.
I had suspected issues with the charger, and I have 6 different car chargers (ranging from 500mA to 2A outputs). I'm on the road all day and I drive different cars (2012 Mitsubishi and 2013 and now a 2014 Ford Fusion). I can verify that some chargers seem to work better than others. But I cannot verify that if the chargers work differently in different cars.
I also have my work laptop running and I have tried connecting the phone to the USB ports on the laptop with the same result. I have also used the original Nokia wall charger connected to 2 different digital inverters (110v AC, one is 150W output and another 400W, two different brands) and same issue.
In fact if I run a game such as Asphalt 8 on the phone while it is connected to the wall charger at home the battery still drains while playing the game (started last night at 95% charge and drained to 65% in 30min while plugged into the wall charger).
I'm pretty sure my issue is not with the chargers
In short, YES that is common behaviour when using GPS such as Here Drive
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Perhaps this is regional accessibility of satellites?
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In short, YES that is common behaviour when using GPS such as Here Drive
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Perhaps this is regional accessibility of satellites?
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I've figured out that this issue it's not a problem of the charger itself.
It's a security system, if the phone gets too hot, the charging stops to avoid some kind of accident, like battery exploding (as we commonly see on Apple products charging with generic chargers). That's why the battery still goes out even if the phone is plugged in the charger.
When you guys be in a car, try to put the phone in a position that the Air Conditioner can blow the cold air in the back of the phone. The battery will last longer, maybe even it won't dry.
I know this is an old topic, but I wanted to mention this.
The phone *will* get hot and it will drain quickly while using GPS. Even if it is plugged in, it could still drain pretty fast if your charger isn't replenishing your charge as quickly as the phone is draining. The ticket is to use a good charger while in the car. I use the one here: http://ebay.to/1ExuLj6 [shortened link], and it keeps the phone in the plus while using GPS. Before that, I used a mediocre adapter and driving to Valencia, CA from Las Vegas, the phone died after 3.5 hours of driving rendering the use of GPS at that point....pointless. So good adapter = solid GPS use. The phone will still heat up though. There is nothing you can do about that unless you have it on ice