My phone gets hot like hell when I'm using HERE Drive+ or Waze.
Is it normal?
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Pedrorudi said:
My phone gets hot like hell when I'm using HERE Drive+ or Waze.
Is it normal?
ps.: posted on the wrong section, sorry.
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from my experience if GPS used for long time (> 30 minutes) my nokia 920 get hot.
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from my experience if GPS used for long time (> 30 minutes) my nokia 920 get hot.
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And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
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And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
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most of the time i used a car charger, so really don't know about the battery drain
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And what about battery drain after a while?
My Lumia 920 gets too hot and battery drains really fast, about 30%/hour.
Is that normal?
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It is a little higher than normal, but not exactly abnormal.
Here Drive does smash my phone too, but it's less.. abusive on GDR3.
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It is a little higher than normal, but not exactly abnormal.
Here Drive does smash my phone too, but it's less.. abusive on GDR3.
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Nice, I can't wait Microsoft release GDR3!
I'm a person who is a heave GPS user, I need that on my phone without battery drain or phone getting hot
OMG, I've just installed the GDR3 Preview and I must say. GPS improved A LOT! It doesn't make my L920 burn anymore, and the Battery drain is better now.
Actually I use Here Drive also and the battery not only gets hot, but also drains really fast... in fact faster than any charger can charge the phone, so even when it is connected to charger it still drains battery at about 10%~20% per hour. The only cure is to turn off the phone for about 5 min and turn it back on and after a couple of sessions of Here Drive the same thing happens again until you do a cold power cycle again.
I have sent the phone back for service and even complained to Nokia and that did not do anything. In my opinion this seems to be a hardware design flaw with the GPS or the SoC in this phone. I have had this issue ever since I got this phone in Dec 2013. I have the latest available update on it as well.
Battery life is really not a strong point on this phone, and the GPS is not very good at all. Can't rely on the navigation on this phone for a long trip since you will drain your battery, even if it is plugged in to charger.
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Battery life is really not a strong point on this phone, and the GPS is not very good at all. Can't rely on the navigation on this phone for a long trip since you will drain your battery, even if it is plugged in to charger.
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I have to disagree with your statements ... I have used both HERE Drive and Navigon all day with out the drainage issues that you mention -- in fact, the phone will charge while using the navigation ... BUT, there are some things that I have noticed:
Not all charges are the same ... I had some that were not able to charge the phone while using the navigation.
Not all cars are the same -- I have a charger that works in my Rav4 without problems ... went on a trip and rented a Chevy Cruz, and the same charger was not able to keep the phone from discharging when using the navigation -- and it got hot -- that was not the case with the Rav4. I switched to the USB connection in the Cruz -- and it was better, but did not solve the charging issue, although it did not get as hot when using it -- but it did not seem to be able to increase the charge on the phone.
The phone's GPS works without problems -- locks on, and provides good information -- especially if you are using a nav program that has the maps installed in the phone.
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Not all charges are the same ... I had some that were not able to charge the phone while using the navigation.
Not all cars are the same -- I have a charger that works in my Rav4 without problems ... went on a trip and rented a Chevy Cruz, and the same charger was not able to keep the phone from discharging when using the navigation -- and it got hot -- that was not the case with the Rav4. I switched to the USB connection in the Cruz -- and it was better, but did not solve the charging issue, although it did not get as hot when using it -- but it did not seem to be able to increase the charge on the phone.
The phone's GPS works without problems -- locks on, and provides good information -- especially if you are using a nav program that has the maps installed in the phone.
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I wasn't very clear about the GPS function on the phone. My complaint is NOT the GPS accuracy and speed, but the fact that using GPS drains the battery while in use and reduces the battery life significantly even after quitting the application until the phone is rebooted. I apologize for not being clear on that.
I had suspected issues with the charger, and I have 6 different car chargers (ranging from 500mA to 2A outputs). I'm on the road all day and I drive different cars (2012 Mitsubishi and 2013 and now a 2014 Ford Fusion). I can verify that some chargers seem to work better than others. But I cannot verify that if the chargers work differently in different cars.
I also have my work laptop running and I have tried connecting the phone to the USB ports on the laptop with the same result. I have also used the original Nokia wall charger connected to 2 different digital inverters (110v AC, one is 150W output and another 400W, two different brands) and same issue.
In fact if I run a game such as Asphalt 8 on the phone while it is connected to the wall charger at home the battery still drains while playing the game (started last night at 95% charge and drained to 65% in 30min while plugged into the wall charger).
I'm pretty sure my issue is not with the chargers
In short, YES that is common behaviour when using GPS such as Here Drive
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Perhaps this is regional accessibility of satellites?
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In short, YES that is common behaviour when using GPS such as Here Drive
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Perhaps this is regional accessibility of satellites?
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I've figured out that this issue it's not a problem of the charger itself.
It's a security system, if the phone gets too hot, the charging stops to avoid some kind of accident, like battery exploding (as we commonly see on Apple products charging with generic chargers). That's why the battery still goes out even if the phone is plugged in the charger.
When you guys be in a car, try to put the phone in a position that the Air Conditioner can blow the cold air in the back of the phone. The battery will last longer, maybe even it won't dry.
I know this is an old topic, but I wanted to mention this.
The phone *will* get hot and it will drain quickly while using GPS. Even if it is plugged in, it could still drain pretty fast if your charger isn't replenishing your charge as quickly as the phone is draining. The ticket is to use a good charger while in the car. I use the one here: http://ebay.to/1ExuLj6 [shortened link], and it keeps the phone in the plus while using GPS. Before that, I used a mediocre adapter and driving to Valencia, CA from Las Vegas, the phone died after 3.5 hours of driving rendering the use of GPS at that point....pointless. So good adapter = solid GPS use. The phone will still heat up though. There is nothing you can do about that unless you have it on ice
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I just went on a trip and about 2 or so hours into the trip my cell phone went dead even though it was plugged in. I was using my GPS. I recharged my phone and tried again and I could see the battery was draining even though it was plugged in.
Is there a fix for this problem? I'm was using Sprint ROM, but switched to Might Mikes, but still have the same problem.
what ends up happening with the pda devices is that it looks to the battery for energy only. even if it's plugged in if you drain the battery faster than it can charge then it will go dead. i don't know if there is even a different rom that can cercumvent that, but that would be the only way to fix it.
...or if you could find a gps program that uses less energy. that should work too.
I tried again using the GPS, but this time I had a DC to AC converter and plugged in my phone. Although I didn't run the GPS that long, maybe a half hour or so, the phone battery didn't loose any noticeable charge. It was fully charged when I stopped the GPS.
I'm also looking to replace my battery with a higher capacity battery. Can anyone make a recommendation? I don't want a larger battery as far as size, but one that has more capacity. Let me know if there is a battery on the market that will meet my requirements.
Touch Pro has a safety feature to stop charging when the temperature sensor goes past a certain point. It is much more likely to reach that point when you are running GPS and in car with the sun beating down.
Workaround for that is to turn on the AC.
I had the same issue this May when driving through GA while on vacation.
The phone does stop the charging process when it feels it is too hot but will continue to operate thus discharging the battery quickly but never letting you get a charge in.
My solution was to buy a mount for the phone that clipped onto the AC vent and let cool air run on it the entire time and that solved the problem.
Hope that helps.
Yes, anytime I run the GPS the phone does get warm. However, I do have a vent mount holder for the phone with AC blowing right on the back of it. That doesn't resolve my problem.
I'm interested in a very high capacity battery if anyone can personally recommend one.
Have only had my sprint pro for 2 weeks and concur the battery life is bad. I find heating problems during lots of tasks and sometimes doing seemingly nothing(in sleep mode). I found that my gps was draining the battery even when not in use. I installed a cab to toggle it and that has helped alot. My data is set to go off automatically after a short time also. I'm trying every tweak I can think of and googling for more.
The oem batt was 1340mAh, My old gsm pro had an extended 1500mAh which I tried , with little improvement. I'm currently running a 2000mAh extended with the enlarged door and this helps but lots of juice is still draining away. On a positive note, the warmness seems to be mostly gone. My goal is to be able to go a full day with moderate usage. Today may be the day. I think I saw a 3000mAh as well, maybe at seidio. I was going to return the pro and get another one, but it sounds like they are all the same issue. An awesome phone, a real shame this is a problem. I think data off and gps off will help me alot. My $.02
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Give this a try.
I installed the program and I see the GPStoggle.dll under windows, but I don't see anyway to run the program? How do I enable and disable it?
So I know this has been talked about over and over again....even so..can someone please explain to me why this phone running stock rom ..custom rom...stock kernel custom kernel ...whatever the combo...drains solo fast? I am on my 2nd battery tmo nicely sent out free of charge thinking i got a bad one...yet the issue remains..i charge overnight..unplug ..go to work...8am ...stay in the shop 2 hrs...phone dark/silent.. get loaded up (delivery driver) get in the truck. Stick my phone on my clingo car mount turn on my screen to start an mp3...batery is at 85...from there i take maybe 60 mins of talk throughout the day..have mp3player running and use a Max of half hour navigation...around 2 pm battery is down to maybe 30 if not less...by the time i leave work at 4 it is in the red telling me to plug in.. mind you i even use a car charger here and there throughout the day...i have noticed this thing drains 3 times faster than it charges..i can even have GPS on...charger in...and it will stay about even or more times than not be less then when i plugged it in ...
Again having read a million of these posts...I cannot find any rhyme or reason for this other than luck of the draw? Some get 40 hrs some get 5?
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Woah your post is really hard to read.
First of, using the GPS navigation app is very cpu intensive. You could tell it is when your phone starts to heat up. The more CPU intensive an app is, the faster the battery will drain. Secondly, if you have alot of syncing aps, your battery will obviously drain faster. My phone will last upto two and a half days without syncing and with heavy use. I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the charger, but the car charger isn't as powerful as the home charger from my experience--but I have noticed some car charger are *more* powerful than the other lower quality car chargers. Like with some chargers, my phone was able to charge while playing music in the car.
There is an issue with the DRM integrated with the newer roms (like the OTA). Together with the samsungs mediahub, it drains a signifant amount of battery. Some users report having better battery life after uninstalling or freezing the said apps--this requires root priviledges of course.
Try this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823025&page=4
Does your phone get REALLY WARM/HOT after using GPS Navigation?
Is this normal?
Yes. Very annoying.
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Does your phone get REALLY WARM/HOT after using GPS Navigation?
Is this normal?
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Yes, seems to be fairly normal on this device (at least the CDMA version) as this was also an issue on the Sprint EVO. A lot of power is required to use both the GPS and Data at the same time for a long period of time. Definitely will warm the phone up, especially if you have it connected to a charger.
The power drain from the GPS radio and Data usage (WiFi or Cellular radio) can be more than some chargers supply and leave the device in a power draining state even though it is plugged in while using both of these radios at the same time.
No real work around for this from what I've seen, it seems to be a hardware power consumption issue.
Perhaps there might be some tweaks or tips to mitigate this issue but the best solution I've found is to not use GPS and Data simultaneously for too long ... A good battery and temperature monitoring widget I use to watch this information is the BatteryLife widget for free in the Android Market.
Hope that helps!
Your phone will always get hot when under a lot of use (GPS, YouTube, games, etc)...computers have fans, phones do not
Well, what I do is, I have a nice phone holder (it was originally a gps car holder), and I use it in a way so as the ac vent from the car, blows air directly to the back of the phone, and after that, I never had any more heating problems (even after hours of non stop road use while traveling)
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@dchamero - that's a good idea
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Well, what I do is, I have a nice phone holder (it was originally a gps car holder), and I use it in a way so as the ac vent from the car, blows air directly to the back of the phone, and after that, I never had any more heating problems (even after hours of non stop road use while traveling)
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In fact, here is a pic of my phone in the car
Anyone find a charger that can actually charge the phone while using the GPS? I have a modified charger with the center pins tacked together and the Samsung genuine car charger, neither of which can keep up with the drain.
Anyone have positive evidence that their charging solution will at least maintain battery life while GPS + screen are running?
I'm at a loss and tired of spending money on chargers that aren't up to the task.
Thank you.
I have the Samsung car mount that comes with a Samsung car charger. Not sure if that's the same charger you have, but I've used it on a road trip so far and it definitely maintains and charges a little. 14 hours of driving btw.
I attempted to call Samsung Accessory support this morning to find out if that charger is different than the basic charger and they were giving me the run around. I didn't want to spend $XX on another charger unless I knew it had a higher output.
Can you give me the spec's on it?
I know the basic samsung charger only puts out 750mA.
I have used numerous chargers in the car while running GPS and none of them actually seem to charge the device; they just keep it "treading water".
Truth is, with the screen size being what it is, and likely both cores firing at full capacity, I don't think it's entirely realistic to expect the thing to charge while doing something so data intensive as GPS; especially, when you consider that your data signal can and will vary WILDLY while driving through different places, which absolutely and invariably will stress the battery even further, contributing to drain whether plugged in or not. That's a lot of work for a relatively small device to handle.
Just my $.02 coming from a mix of experience and common sense.
-Ryan
Guy above you says that his does.
Hell, I'd be happy with treading water, way better than the steep downhill fall I've got going on.
Can limit processor speed by throttling it manually with my OC kernel or by enabling the saving mode the phone has innately. Can reduce data by switching off 4G.
It doesn't need those things to run as a GPS. The GPS itself doesn't seem to eat much battery at all but I realize the screen is huge. However, how can this be a viable device if we can't figure out a way to make it WORK?
I hope that camaroz28 can get back to me on this.
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I attempted to call Samsung Accessory support this morning to find out if that charger is different than the basic charger and they were giving me the run around. I didn't want to spend $XX on another charger unless I knew it had a higher output.
Can you give me the spec's on it?
I know the basic samsung charger only puts out 750mA.
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There is no writing on it at all so I have no idea what it's output current is.
As an aside, I've heard of a lot of people just getting a small DC->AC converter and then using the original wall charge adapter to charge in the car.
There are two very good posts about this very topic.
This one recommends a charger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538341
It also has a link in the OP to the other post about charging the Note.
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There is no writing on it at all so I have no idea what it's output current is.
As an aside, I've heard of a lot of people just getting a small DC->AC converter and then using the original wall charge adapter to charge in the car.
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You can confirm that your phone will charge, albeit slowly, with the provided adapter that comes with the Nav mount?
I'm not a big fan out DC to AC car adapters.
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There are two very good posts about this very topic.
This one recommends a charger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538341
It also has a link in the OP to the other post about charging the Note.
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Only did a couple quick searches for "GPS Charging" before making this thread, and didn't find that one!
Thank you guys.
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You can confirm that your phone will charge, albeit slowly, with the provided adapter that comes with the Nav mount?
I'm not a big fan out DC to AC car adapters.
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Yes, after driving for 7 hours, my batter went from something like 52% to 60%. Don't remember the exact numbers, but it went up. This was while switching between google navigation and an app called "GPS HUD" with Pandora running in the background. Data was mostly HSPA/HSPA+ except for the beginning and end of the trip where I was in LTE cities.
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Yes, after driving for 7 hours, my batter went from something like 52% to 60%. Don't remember the exact numbers, but it went up. This was while switching between google navigation and an app called "GPS HUD" with Pandora running in the background. Data was mostly HSPA/HSPA+ except for the beginning and end of the trip where I was in LTE cities.
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Thanks again Camaroz28.
Maintain a fully charged spare battery in auto
Tried about every auto charging fix I could find on this forum. Still get about 2% per hour discharge. I'm routinely in and out of my car 8-10 hours a day so end up with a dead battery. My fix (not elegant but works) is to maintain a fully charged spare battery in my van using a charger for extra batteries.
Of course could not do this with my iphone which is now relegated to my grandkids for games and music.
I love this forum. Great help to me.
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Tried about every auto charging fix I could find on this forum. Still get about 2% per hour discharge. I'm routinely in and out of my car 8-10 hours a day so end up with a dead battery. My fix (not elegant but works) is to maintain a fully charged spare battery in my van using a charger for extra batteries.
Of course could not do this with my iphone which is now relegated to my grandkids for games and music.
I love this forum. Great help to me.
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Same, I actually have 3 spare batteries and a spare battery charger. I don't want to have to fool with changing my battery in the car though. I've already ordered the charger from the other thread, should have it by Saturday to try that puppy out.
I'm an engineer, and I travel quite a bit.
The GPS software you use makes a huge difference. If you want the phone to charge, don't use Waze. During a test one day, Waze plugged in drained more battery than Navigon did while unplugged. Mine charges with Navigon and Pandora running simultaneously. I haven't tested Google Navigation yet, I'm going to do that today. The charger I use is a 2.1A Belkin AutoCharger made for iPhones. I'm using a USB extension cable with manually shorted data pins. I get 800-something mA out of it, unfortunately not the full 1000 the stock wall charger puts out. Running an inverter in the car with the stock charger I can get Waze to charge, but that's just not worth it for me. Too much gear in the just to charge a phone.
i am happy to report that the inductive charging pad i bought at verizon wireless today (lg wcp-700) will work thru an otterbox defender!!!
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i am happy to report that the inductive charging pad i bought at verizon wireless today (lg wcp-700) will work thru an otterbox defender!!!
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what kind of charge are you pulling?
I know you didn't ask me, but it outputs 500mA per the specs from the paper on the box.
5V/500mA
It also cites 19V/1000mA but I have no idea how that is accomplished. I assume outside the US where they don't use 120V.
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I know you didn't ask me, but it outputs 500mA per the specs from the paper on the box.
5V/500mA
It also cites 19V/1000mA but I have no idea how that is accomplished. I assume outside the US where they don't use 120V.
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man, that is definitely a slow charge. hope that gets improved over time (wireless charging)
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man, that is definitely a slow charge. hope that gets improved over time (wireless charging)
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Yeah I was getting about 4.5 hours to full charge.
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It also cites 19V/1000mA but I have no idea how that is accomplished. I assume outside the US where they don't use 120V.
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19 volt is the input.
What kind of charging speed are you getting through that defender? I'm getting 21% increase per hour through a thin case while on WiFi.
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I'm getting 21% increase per hour through a thini case while on WiFi.
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That is just too slow. Wireless charging would be ideal in the future when it becomes vastly available within open areas not only limited to the small charging pad, but as of now it just does not have any advantages in comparison to a standard micro USB cable; more faster, portable, direct access to storage while charging, and most abundantly available.
Well, it does have the advantage of being convenient. I would just drop it off the pad overnight.
Otherwise, yeah, it has some room to grow. A lot of the problem is that quite a bit of electricity is wasted currently.
Does anyone know if the Google Nexus Charging Orb will work with the DNA?
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Does anyone know if the Google Nexus Charging Orb will work with the DNA?
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Yes it will, when its released.
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Its more of a convenience than anything at this time. I've got 2, one sits by my desk at work, the other on my nightstand at home. Its great at work. If you get a call you can just snatch it up quickly without having to worry about the cord, and same deal at home, don't have to worry about breaking the USB port on them early morning alarms.
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That is just too slow. Wireless charging would be ideal in the future when it becomes vastly available within open areas not only limited to the small charging pad, but as of now it just does not have any advantages in comparison to a standard micro USB cable; more faster, portable, direct access to storage while charging, and most abundantly available.
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It's not that slow, why do people seem to keep complaining about it? If ur getting less than 5 hrs sleep at night, and ur battery is under 20% when you do shut down for the night, then yeah, you may have some difficulty with this.
Wireless charging has been just slightly faster than usb charging for me. I think that with that rate and the convenience added, it is more than worth it. I was concerned about it before I got the phone, but after testing it, the battery life is double what I'm used to, so I just don't need to charge it as often. I use my phone quite a bit through the day, of the charger at 5:30 this morning, no charging during the day and I'm still at 45%.
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Its more of a convenience than anything at this time. I've got 2, one sits by my desk at work, the other on my nightstand at home. Its great at work. If you get a call you can just snatch it up quickly without having to worry about the cord, and same deal at home, don't have to worry about breaking the USB port on them early morning alarms.
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X2 on that, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have had to return/replace/repair/claim broken phones because of damage and abused usb ports, I know I have, just last week actually. And with this little usb flap, it looks so clean to keep it covered, I don't want to destroy the little guy.
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It's not that slow, why do people seem to keep complaining about it? If ur getting less than 5 hrs sleep at night, and ur battery is under 20% when you do shut down for the night, then yeah, you may have some difficulty with this.
Wireless charging has been just slightly faster than usb charging for me. I think that with that rate and the convenience added, it is more than worth it. I was concerned about it before I got the phone, but after testing it, the battery life is double what I'm used to, so I just don't need to charge it as often. I use my phone quite a bit through the day, of the charger at 5:30 this morning, no charging during the day and I'm still at 45%.
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X2 on that, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have had to return/replace/repair/claim broken phones because of damage and abused usb ports, I know I have, just last week actually. And with this little usb flap, it looks so clean to keep it covered, I don't want to destroy the little guy.
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sorry, but 500mah is a very slow charge these days when some other phones/tablets are coming with 2000mah chargers.
I was just curious what kind a charge it could generate...
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i am happy to report that the inductive charging pad i bought at verizon wireless today (lg wcp-700) will work thru an otterbox defender!!!
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I can confirm this, I had to position it just right but it does work through the Otterbox surprisingly.
love the Qi pad... good to hear it charges through a think case... thanks
Really is there any wireless charger available for any mobile phone..?
If the phone supports inductive charging and/or has an inductive charging back that can be used.
I ordered the LG wireless charger but verizon accidentally sent me the nokia one. I actually like the nokia one BETTER as it is smaller and is black in color. It seems to work well. It def doesn't charge as fast as my wired charger but wireless charging is very fast as well. I took a 10-15 minute shower and it went up 5% which isn't too bad.
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i am happy to report that the inductive charging pad i bought at verizon wireless today (lg wcp-700) will work thru an otterbox defender!!!
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I can't get any recognition through my just delivered Defender using a previously working LG wc-700.
Edit: I take that back I just ddin't have the phone high enough on the pad. It's now charging. Thx.
More OtterBox news: My fav ProClip just release a mount that apparently works with a Defender on which is a new one to me. I've always opted out on a case as they would never fit in my car mounts butthis may vhange everything. This one specifically mentions iPhone 5 but the sizes list seem to fit the DNA Defender. I have a question into them for help before I order.
http://www.proclipusa.com/store/products/adjustable-holder-for-rugged-cases-511430.aspx
What are the negative repercussions from constant or intermittent charging? I understand that it's detrimental to let the battery drain completely before charging, but constantly putting it on the pad only to pull it off again isn't harmful?