iam thinking of buying the CDMA version of EVO 3d to use in india.here two networks provide CDMA reliance and TATA..i see so many people selling the EVO 3d which they got from sprint and attached to reliance..how do they do it? because if i get the sprint one from US directly it costs me very less but the one they are selling is also the sprint one but they did say something about ESN being registered to reliance network.so can i directly buy from US and register it myself? or do i have to unlock it or something? can someone explain me plz how is it done!
Hi, ESN or MEID needs to be registered with the operator like Reliance or TATA. For registering with the operator there is not only a single parameter of handset, so getting that registered for yourself will be v tough but still if you believe you can do that you can get the handset on your own.
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vishalchandna said:
Hi, ESN or MEID needs to be registered with the operator like Reliance or TATA. For registering with the operator there is not only a single parameter of handset, so getting that registered for yourself will be v tough but still if you believe you can do that you can get the handset on your own.
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so do u suggest me to buy from them?
if i buy directly it costs 21500
if i buy a reliance registered one it costs me 24000
if i buy a tata registered one it costs me 26000
and hey i also wanted to know why does tata one cost more? everyone is telling more cost compared to reliance. and there is nothing like unlocking for CDMA right?
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hi there im doing my rounds In LA soon and would love to buy a hero out there my main concern is, when i return to the UK will it work with one of my UK networks... any one have any insight into this.....
If it is unlocked , answer is tes.
My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
The answer is no!
The Sprint Hero is a CDMA device. It doesn't have a SIM card slot, because CDMA devices don't use SIM cards, so you can't give it another "identity" by inserting a different SIM like you can a GSM phone.
I believe that there are some phones that support both CDMA and GSM, and these can operate on both types of network because they have a radio that supports both and a SIM card slot.
Note that some CDMA networks have implemented what they call a UIM, which does the same job as a SIM card, but isn't compatible.
Regards.
Dave
Lord Lucan said:
My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
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In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
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Dave
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this doesent answer my question it does the opposite.....
im trying to find out.. if a US hero that i buy in the US will work on any uk network....??
My previous post answered your question! The second post was commenting on what Lord Lucan had said.
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Dave
so dave in the us cant i just buy a sim free non network hero... ?
The "worldwide" GSM Hero does not support any of the 3G bands employed by networks in the US. So, if you were to buy a GSM Hero, it would work on either T-Mobile US or AT&T, but the best you would get, data wise, is EDGE whilst you are in the US. When you come back to the UK, you would be able to get 3G.
The US Hero, otherwise known as the Sprint Hero, is a CDMA device. This will not work at all on any UK networks.
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Dave
cool thanks for reply's dave.. looks like im gonna get one. ok so does anyone know where i could pick one up while im there.. im staying in west hollywood.
Why do you want to physically buy one in the US?
You can buy one from Expansys in the US for $540, or in the UK for £370 (with £30 worth of vouchers).
Assuming you could find a local retailer which stocks them in West Hollywood with prices similar to Expansys, you'd have to pay sales tax on it @ 9.75% would bring the cost pretty close to £370.
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Dave
becasue i have loads of usd to burn and not loads of GBP are you glad you now know my business......anyway back to where a retailer might be
i dont thing it would have uk 3g
would it?
Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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umm...there is no non-sprint hero in the US. The cdma hero aka the US hero aka the SPRINT hero is ONLY available on sprint and from sprint. This phone does not use a sim card or any thing like it, when you turn one on for the first time it automatically connects to the sprint network and is linked to the number of the sprint subscriber that purchases by the phones unique ESN number, which cannot be changed legally. If you want a chinless hero, the one that is available on sprint and does not look at all like the UK hero, it will only and can only connect to CDMA networks and as far as I know only sprint. So no my post was not A wrong, I admitted to being kinda lost I just asked what use would a phone that you can not use as a phone serve you, a also asked if I had misunderstood, which I am sure now that I did not, you seem to be the lost one. When you get your US hero and try to unlock it for a gsm network, where are you going to stick the SIM card, please send me a video of you trying to put it into the phone, that will be fun to watch.
I am always confused between CDMA and GSM...
Why a 4 band phone ,Evo 3d will not work in Europe?
BTW I am searching to buy one at Ebay. the search shows only Spirit branded phones. do they work in Europe (GSM)?
What is ESN clean or Bad ESN? Whats is the meaning of "unlocked" and if i buy a locked one can i unlock it by my self?
Thank You
adempozhari said:
I am always confused between CDMA and GSM...
Why a 4 band phone ,Evo 3d will not work in Europe?
BTW I am searching to buy one at Ebay. the search shows only Spirit branded phones. do they work in Europe (GSM)?
What is ESN clean or Bad ESN? Whats is the meaning of "unlocked" and if i buy a locked one can i unlock it by my self?
Thank You
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I'm far from the expert so I'll give your questions my best shot and maybe somebody else with more experience on GSM can fill in some of the gaps.
bad/clean ESN only applies to CDMA. CDMA does not use a SIM card. once a CDMA phone has had its ESN marked as bad, it will not operate on that carrier. example, sprint (only CDMA network) evo 3d, the owner doesnt pay his bills, they mark the ESN as Bad for that device. if he sells the evo 3d, it can't be activated on sprint's cdma network. if you want to activate it on another CDMA network, like metropcs, it is doable, but sometimes considered a legally *gray* area.
"unlocked" in regards to the carrier of the device only applies to GSM type devices. on GSM type devices, once they has been "unlocked" they will operate on any GSM carrier.
i'm not about the band count, i.e. 4 band GSM. i would suggest looking at which frequencies are used in those bands and matching them up by frequencies and GSM/CDMA. as your profile is marked albania, i think most of europe uses GSM so CDMA will probably not be useful for you.
hope that helps some of the questions!
thank you... you were very clear.
still searching for the last question. If i buy a locked GSM phone, can i unlock it here by myself or i have to buy unlock code?
Well, doesn't all phones come unlocked in Europe anyway? Locking applies to GSM phones, and I've always thought only north American carriers do that. For example, if you, living in Europe, wanted the infuse 4G which is locked to ATT in America, you would need to unlock it to use it. Moreover, you must make sure the phone's frequencies match your carrier's. If I'm not mistaken, I think unlocking an Android phone is similar to rooting it. It's a different process all together, but its something you would do on your own.
Before Android tho, you simply need to call your carrier, tell them you're traveling overseas and you wanna use your phone there, and they'll give you the unlock code. Use some special commands to bring up the carrier unlock screen, input the unlock code, and bam, you're good to go.
I don't know if you still need an unlock code with Android phones, but if you want it, you would get it from the carrier of the phone.
You won't see any unlocking tutorials for the EVO 3d in the forums for the obvious reason that its cdma phone in America. But I'm sure once its released on Tmo-us, then there'll be a method.
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I got my photon 4g from a online 3rd party dealer. It is advertized as "unlocked". When turn on the phone , it will eventually enter into a "hand free activation" screen for Sprint . I want to use the phone in Asia and in Canada with GSM / 3G carriers. I am not a sprint customer and have no desire to sign contract with Sprint in North america. What should I do ?
On the packaging , it said that if I want to use it internationally , I need to call Sprint first . Also it said KEEP the included SIM card inside the phone to use a GSM network.
Should I call Sprint about international travel and possibly get a unlock code (for GSM usage) ?
Should I take the included SIM card and put in my other SIM cards oversea ?
Should I root the phone ?
Should I "unloack"/bypass the boot loader ?
If I need help from Sprint to unlock the phone , do you think they are willing to help me if I am not their customer and I don't live in the states ?
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I got my photon 4g from a online 3rd party dealer. It is advertized as "unlocked". When turn on the phone , it will eventually enter into a "hand free activation" screen for Sprint . I want to use the phone in Asia and in Canada with GSM / 3G carriers. I am not a sprint customer and have no desire to sign contract with Sprint in North america. What should I do ?
On the packaging , it said that if I want to use it internationally , I need to call Sprint first . Also it said KEEP the included SIM card inside the phone to use a GSM network.
Should I call Sprint about international travel and possibly get a unlock code (for GSM usage) ?
Should I take the included SIM card and put in my other SIM cards oversea ?
Should I root the phone ?
Should I "unloack"/bypass the boot loader ?
If I need help from Sprint to unlock the phone , do you think they are willing to help me if I am not their customer and I don't live in the states ?
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Don't bother talking to sprint. Look at this thread and delete the specified apps that force activation through Sprint: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265816&highlight=bypass+sprint+activation
You will want to put in your local SIM card once activation is bypassed.
photon gsm now unlocked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664212
For use in Asia
Photon works out of the box on GSM no need to program or unlock it.
As far as skipping activation is concerned there is a thread in this forum by Farookh.
Enjoy Photon
xyzdan said:
I got my photon 4g from a online 3rd party dealer. It is advertized as "unlocked". When turn on the phone , it will eventually enter into a "hand free activation" screen for Sprint . I want to use the phone in Asia and in Canada with GSM / 3G carriers. I am not a sprint customer and have no desire to sign contract with Sprint in North america. What should I do ?
On the packaging , it said that if I want to use it internationally , I need to call Sprint first . Also it said KEEP the included SIM card inside the phone to use a GSM network.
Should I call Sprint about international travel and possibly get a unlock code (for GSM usage) ?
Should I take the included SIM card and put in my other SIM cards oversea ?
Should I root the phone ?
Should I "unloack"/bypass the boot loader ?
If I need help from Sprint to unlock the phone , do you think they are willing to help me if I am not their customer and I don't live in the states ?
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you dont to do anyting.
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xyzdan said:
I got my photon 4g from a online 3rd party dealer. It is advertized as "unlocked". When turn on the phone , it will eventually enter into a "hand free activation" screen for Sprint . I want to use the phone in Asia and in Canada with GSM / 3G carriers. I am not a sprint customer and have no desire to sign contract with Sprint in North america. What should I do ?
On the packaging , it said that if I want to use it internationally , I need to call Sprint first . Also it said KEEP the included SIM card inside the phone to use a GSM network.
Should I call Sprint about international travel and possibly get a unlock code (for GSM usage) ?
Should I take the included SIM card and put in my other SIM cards oversea ?
Should I root the phone ?
Should I "unloack"/bypass the boot loader ?
If I need help from Sprint to unlock the phone , do you think they are willing to help me if I am not their customer and I don't live in the states ?
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the sim card is already unlock. i used this phone in indonesia, malaysia and singapore no prob. just select gsm networks only to avoid the sprint activation thing. its a great phone. nowadays sprint has their sim cards built into the phone.
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the sim card is already unlock. i used this phone in indonesia, malaysia and singapore no prob. just select gsm networks only to avoid the sprint activation thing. its a great phone. nowadays sprint has their sim cards built into the phone.
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Hi guys!
do yuo konw if the same thing for Photon Q with carrier CSpire ?
many thanks!
In our area , there is available EVO3D cdma for cheap rate, it has a T-mobile logo on it, but the buyer says tht he has unlocked it for reliance cdma network
question is if i root it and put a custom rom on it, will it still be unlocked at reliance or it will be locked ??
if it has t-mo branding on it, it's probably gonna be the sensation, which is not the evo 3d. Secondly, t-mo is gsm only. If I were you, I'd verify if it really is the 3d, not the sensation, but I'm sure it will be the latter (if it isn't some scam to begin with)
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In our area , there is available EVO3D cdma for cheap rate, it has a T-mobile logo on it, but the buyer says tht he has unlocked it for reliance cdma network
question is if i root it and put a custom rom on it, will it still be unlocked at reliance or it will be locked ??
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I'm fairly certain my CDMA EVO 3D will NOT ever operate on a GSM network w/o changing the radio hardware inside.
Unless the GSM version comes with both radios inside, it will be impossible for it to operate on a CDMA network. "Unlocked" is generally a GSM term as GSM devices can be unlocked and then operate on any carrier.
Where as CDMA devices have to be programmed for a specific carrier. The programming process for a CDMA device can be a bit complex for people w/o computer experience.
Hope that helps clarify! I'm sure somebody else with more knowledge on the EUR versions of the GSM EVO 3Ds can chime in from their experience.
EDIT: posted while i was replying...
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if it has t-mo branding on it, it's probably gonna be the sensation, which is not the evo 3d.
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Also very great point! Don't think there is any GSM EVO 3D version being officially sold in the US under the TMO or ATT brand (the two largest GSM companies in the US). Perhaps a foreign GSM version of the EVO 3D, once "unlocked", could operate on a US GSM carrier such as TMO or ATT, but fairly confident TMO and ATT havent ever sold a GSM EVO 3D.
As a double check, if you wanted, a quick glance at the line up of phones available on their web site should help clarify. Or if you really wanted, call their customer service departments and ask about a EVO 3D or any type of 3D device to see what they have to offer.
hey whatsup? well i have 2 phones "samsung epic touch 4g" and "htc evo 4g" by sprint!! Now I wanna know,if i can use these two phones in India with cdma carrier like MTS,TATA and RELIANCE.I know its possible because my friend is using epic touch sprint on tata somehow!!
there is no legal issue so i can use any illegal method in india,so please tell me how to use sprint or verison phone in india and also tell me about BAD ESN and BLOCKED imei(because they are v cheap to buy and it would be great if i can use it outside USA with any method)