Up until today, I've been rooted. Used the SuperOneClick program. It was a piece of cake.
Today, I decide to check for new software updates..Two new ones.
I updated them and now I'm running 2.2.2 and ed05. Well I'm assuming that's the problem.
Because I've been going through the process today of backing up my ROM and stuff, to flash MIUI for the first time. Well, nothing seemed to work.
I tried to backup my current ROM, but nothing happened. (Should've rebooted and come back on, like normal after 'backup current ROM' was selected and a name was entered for it; Didn't happen. )
So I figured that the new software updates unrooted my phone.
So I go back into SOC and root my phone again, but during the process, it tells me that I'm already rooted. Finishes the process and I reboot my phone, etc.
Well the Superuser app is in my list now, but none of the root-required apps are working. They all tell me that I'm not rooted. I even used Root Check to see the status. It tells me as well, that I'm not rooted.
I go back to the SOC program and UNroot. Well that was successful. I reboot, etc.
No Superuser app. So far so good. So I go BACK again and root, everything went well, except when it said an 'su' command was sent to my phone, I never got one, but I still got the Superuser app. And still, the apps tell me I'm not rooted.
Any kind of help is great. I really appreciate all the time, spent reading this.
Sorry if I went on and on, but it's bugging me now and I really need some answers to what the problem might be. Thanks, guys. ;(
superoneclick does not work on ed05
you need to odin cwm recovery
then reboot into recovery using three finger method
install root.zip file
then reboot
directions for rooting with odin is here:
http://www.galaxyforums.net/forum/fascinate-rs-guides/1967-how-root-froyo-gingerbread-your-fascinate.html
SOC does work with ED05.. I've used it several times, different phones.
Really? I thought quite a few folks were having trouble with soc after the ota ed05 update? If thats the case, then thanks for the clarification... although odin is still another option for the op since soc is not working.
droidstyle said:
superoneclick does not work on ed05
you need to odin cwm recovery
then reboot into recovery using three finger method
install root.zip file
then reboot
directions for rooting with odin is here:
http://www.galaxyforums.net/forum/fascinate-rs-guides/1967-how-root-froyo-gingerbread-your-fascinate.html
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I read most of the first page on that thread, mostly just read the latest replies about that method. I'll read the full directional tutorial once I'm clarified of questions.
I think I read a couple of users saying this does root your phone, but it will wipe all data as well? I'm not quite sure. I want my phone rooted, no matter if I install MIUI or not. I don't want a factory reset though.
Thanks droidstyle, I'm back to being rooted!
Now onward to flashing MIUI! Wish me luck.
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Okay, so I haven't as of yet seen a thread that appears to spell out this process. Most of you are talking about applying developer-modified patches to get to DI01, using Clockwork recovery, and things like that. For various reasons, some of us prefer to remain a bit closer to stock, and not worry about bricking with custom recovery software and whatnot. I'm one of those people, and I've seen questions here and there on how to go back to stock, and if root can be maintained or redone afterward, etc., so I decided to document here what I did to apply the official update to my rooted and lag-fixed Fascinate. Without further ado, here's the process I followed:
Ran the unlagfixme.bat script from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597, which automatically reboots the phone
Used Root Explorer to remove the ".old" extension I had added to all system .apk files I considered bloatware (I chose to disable them, not delete them)
Rebooted the phone again for good measure
Downloaded the update, and let it install normally, after which root access was gone as expected (Superuser.apk and other apps that required root access were still present, but they wouldn't function)
Rooted my Fascinate again per the instructions in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238, just like I did the first time (only had to do it once, not twice like some here have said); note that I followed all instructions except for the final one, which is installing Superuser.apk, as that application was still installed, and still worked fine after applying the proper permissions to su and busybox
Opened Root Explorer, and once again added .old to all .apk files that I wanted to disable and remove from sight
Rebooted again
Ran the lagfixme.bat from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597 to re-apply the lag fix
Rebooted one final time to make sure everything was in still good working order
So there it is. I'm still running stock ROM, stock recovery, etc. I should be able to easily repeat this process any time there's a new OTA update, with minimal risk of bricking.
Helpful thanks, but I think I screwed up.
SO I got the OTA update message this morning. I have root and lagfix installed, and I ran the OTA. Everything works but I no longer have root access. SO I think I screwed up. Newb right. SO do I have to go back to the stock image? What do I need to do to recover while retaining my contacts apps etcetera. Thanks
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SO I got the OTA update message this morning. I have root and lagfix installed, and I ran the OTA. Everything works but I no longer have root access. SO I think I screwed up. Newb right. SO do I have to go back to the stock image? What do I need to do to recover while retaining my contacts apps etcetera. Thanks
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Just re-root, either through adb or there was a one-click out there.
Yeah, just re-root using the original procedure you used (except no need to reinstall superuser.apk), and you should be good to go.
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Thanks for taking the time to write that up Ivorycruncher!
How would this process differ when the Froyo update is released, also having ClockworkMod Recovery installed instead of stock recovery?
I, like you, would like to have legitimate updates installed while keeping root.
I've never installed Clockwork, so I can't comment on that. When Froyo comes out, I imagine the process will be much the same, though at this point there's no way to know if the original rooting method will still work or not after the upgrade. Also, depending on what they do with Froyo, the lag fix may not be necessary anymore, and might not work without some tweaking even if it is still needed.
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Got my Note the day that the local ATT store had it in stock. Rooted it the next day with Odin with no problems. I updated to the official ICS this morning but now its no longer rooted. I am sure there is a simple fix, and mabye I have become delerious in my frantic search for a solution, but everything I have tried thus far has not worked. Obviously I was probably supposed to return to stock before updating. Any lamens termed help would be appreciated. This is the third phone I have rooted, but I dont keep up with this stuff after I get them rooted.
Thanks in advance!
Root it the same way you did before. First you need to install clockwork through odin. Then install SU through CWM.
Unless I missed a step, Odin gave me the "Fail" indicator.
You are not mixing up the CWM tar and the Superuser zip are you?
Greetings,
I know the easy answer to this is going to be to flash a new rom, but if I wanted to do that I would have already. I'd rather find and repair the source of the issue and learn from it.
That being said, shortly after getting my tbolt (when they were first released) I used the revolutionary root and added in VPN software for work. Being unaware that OTA updates hadn't been blocked during the rooting, the phone took an update and went into a death-boot-loop. I found a clean updated OTA rom, flashed and unrooted the phone as the VPN software didn't work well for what I intended anyway.
Great, now the phone is all back to stock (or so I thought).. After a while, another OTA update came down, it asked to update, I allowed, and it said update failed.. Repeat ad nauseum for the next several weeks. Since I was happy with the way the phone was operating, I didn't care if it got the updates or not.
So last week, I decided that since the phone is out of warranty anyway, I might as well root and get rid of some of the bloat, and while I'm at it, get rid of the damn nag screen every tine I hook it to a computer. Searched around, found thunderbolt tool 1.0.1, downed it and tried it out, and it proceeded to say unable to lock my phone.
After a little screwing around, the "update status" on the phone itself reports ROM Version: 2.11.605.9, while the tool was getting a response of 2.11.605.5, so it was using the wrong method to get into the phone. So I edited the batch file to use the .9 method no matter what it reported back, and it proceeded to root, add the recovery, and superuser.
Ahhh, life is good, the phone is rooted again, time to start doing my own customization.
Except that after a couple reboots, everything loses the root rights.
Running titanium backup says "asking for root rights" and then "titanium has been granted superuser permissions" but it just hangs there at the "asking for root rights" screen.
Wireless tether similar story... Start the app and it says "press to start tethering" and touching the screen gets "wireless tethering has been granted superuser permissions", then hangs at "please wait while starting".
Won't do anything that requires root, unless I run the tool again and select "S-off but no root", and it will go through a procedure and root will work again for a while.
Also, as I'm typing this, I discovered that it doesn't necessarily require rebooting to lose root. I had root working last night, but when I picked up the phone to get the proper messages to type, it is not showing root again, and it hasn't been rebooted since root was working.
Thoughts on how to repair this without flashing a rom?
Have you attempted to run the "fix permissions" option in your recovery?
If that does not help, You could use something like OTA RootKeeper to protect root, if you loose it you would just click one button to get it back.
Last thing I can think of is to just reflash the same ROM you are using now on top of what you have so you loose no data and any messed up settings or files will be rewrote.
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You should really think about installing a custom ROM, because until you do, or you block OTA updates, this will be a reoccurring issue.
You could easily install a stock rooted ROM of the exact same thing you have now. nothing would change except it would be properly rooted and OTA updates would be blocked.
That is because only temp root is applied to the official 605.19 Ruu. You need to downgrade back to 605.5 after getting temp root on the 605.19 Ruu then apply the perm root zip in recovery and then flash a newer rom from recovery. If that doesn't work don't lose hope. I may be misunderstanding the situation you have but it sounds like you're only applying temp root. The tool doesn't need to be edited and you may need to flash the 605.19 stock Ruu, relock and s on and then run the tool again.
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Milimbar said:
Have you attempted to run the "fix permissions" option in your recovery?
If that does not help, You could use something like -edit- to protect root, if you loose it you would just click one button to get it back.
Last thing I can think of is to just reflash the same ROM you are using now on top of what you have so you loose no data and any messed up settings or files will be rewrote.
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You should really think about installing a custom ROM, because until you do, or you block OTA updates, this will be a reoccurring issue.
You could easily install a stock rooted ROM of the exact same thing you have now. nothing would change except it would be properly rooted and OTA updates would be blocked.
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Haven't seen the fix permissions option anywhere I've been, care to point me in the right direction?
I'll check out the rootkeeper.
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That is because only temp root is applied to the official 605.19 Ruu. You need to downgrade back to 605.5 after getting temp root on the 605.19 Ruu then apply the perm root zip in recovery and then flash a newer rom from recovery. If that doesn't work don't lose hope. I may be misunderstanding the situation you have but it sounds like you're only applying temp root. The tool doesn't need to be edited and you may need to flash the 605.19 stock Ruu, relock and s on and then run the tool again.
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Never took the .19 update, and both the tool and phone report as .05 now. (if I remember correctly the .09 reverts back to .05 to get in)
damm315er said:
Haven't seen the fix permissions option anywhere I've been, care to point me in the right direction?
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What recovery are you using?
I only use 4ext and would recommend that.
The fix permissions will take up to 5 min and may not help your particular issue, but shouldn't hurt to try.
If 4ext - Boot into recovery, select tools then select fix permissions.
If CWM I think its in the advanced menu.
and If TWRP I think it is in the advanced menu again.
Good luck and listen to the others here, they go out of their way to help people a lot
Ok earlier I misread your post. I thought it said 605.19. Still though something you're doing is causing you to only get temp root. Reread the op of the allinone tool and make sure you meet the requirements before you start it. That away when you run it this time you are in the best possible situation for it to work. Trter is very helpful and if you post your issue in his thread he will probably assist you with anything you need.
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I remember having a similar problem about 6-7 months ago.
I would randomly loose root, though not as often as he is describing.
In my case it was a combination of an outdated root method and a flawed ROM.
If everything he is using is current, including the ROM, he shouldn't have an issue.
If it were me I would flash Santod's stock deodexed ROM and be done with it.
It is the stock ROM with nothing changed except it is prerooted.
I understand that you would like to "fix" this issue without flashing a ROM, however the ROM itself could be the problem. this solution is the simplest I can think of.
Using everything from the thunderbolt toolkit, so yes, 4ext.
Found and ran the fix permissions, ran for 15 minutes before it finished so we'll see how it goes.
I get what you're saying about the rom being screwed up, and am starting to think my only choice is to reflash it, so I'll start looking into a new rom.. That being said I'm still pursuing fixing this until I find a rom that serves my purpose.
Is there a good stable ICS for thunderbolt, pre-loaded with root and good battery life?
Yea the one in the post above yours. If you want something a that is faster and has better battery than it then head over to infectedrom.com and check out all the different options santod has made.
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Just got to know that Pantech has released the much awaited Jelly Bean 4.1 for the Flex through OTA AT&T software update.
Like many others, I'm using the flex outside US, therefore, cannot update my flex.
Would request someone to upload the OTA JB zip file.
Can't wait to see Jelly Bean on the Flex.
PS: Check out the Pantech website for this great news
This is good news. I wish I wasn't rooted with CWMR so I could get this. Tried flashing stock recovery.img and boot.img files but get NOT SUPPORT.
Anyone know a way to get this phone back to complete stock so we can get the Jell Bean goodness?
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
Tersanyus said:
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
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Can you upload the update file?
How did you unroot?
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Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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I knew from experience I had to go to stock recovery and unroot to update.
I flashed a stock rooted nandroid backup I had made after rooting initially.
To unroot I think I went into the SuperUser app and choose option to unroot.
Stock recovery file is posted in a thread here somewhere, had recovery.img and boot.img.
Tried flashing those in fastboot but only got NOT SUPPORT mesage.
I took a flashable zip file that had CWM recovery.img file in it and replaced it with the stock recovery.img and flashed it in CWM.
Once stock recovery was on the phone when I tried to use it I only got a little android symbol lying on its back with a red exclamation point.
Phone booted fine and worked ok
Couldn't get it to see the AT&T update until this morning.
Things I have noticed in this new Jelly Bean build for our little Flex:
Of the stock AT&T apps only 3 I could disable (ugh), why no Disable button
good news
Tersanyus said:
Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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Basically you will find the update in the /cache folder.
I'm not sure if you you can access this folder without being rooted. You can give it a try using the ES File Explorer.
Let me know if you get the update.
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Oh that's bad!
Actually, there's another way. If you can share your system nandroid backup, maybe that can help.
Try Rooting
Tersanyus said:
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Why dont you try to root with this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 ,its the same you used to root 4.0.4 I guess, should work, pull out the update and then unroot the phone as you dont want it rooted.
It happened to me, even rooted I wanst able to see /data content with ES File Blablabla, then tried with root explorer and worked fine.
I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
Thanks for your help
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I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
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Well, thanks for the file, I'm outside US and even on stock, update notification doesn't prompt.
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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kneemeister said:
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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I can see ATT's software updater sucks, we just can wait for our friend's upload.
Here it is: Link removed, Dropbox suspended it.
That should be a stock but rooted rom. Nothing else done to it at all. At least. I had that on the phone for a while as a backup when I was playing with roms for the flex.
Probably only going to leave this link up for a day. I'd make your own nandroid backup first. You'll probably get an md5 error in CWMR but there are instructions for fixing that around. I think it was ADB commands that had to fix it. I know the instructions for clearing the md5 error are in one of the flex rom threads, not that there were many of those. The standard disclaimer applies, if this nandroid backup bricks your phone, I can't help you.
I got the same previous session message too. Then it said no update after wiping. I think the best thing is just wipe and don't check for updates. Leave phone on, wifi on and wait for the phone to check on it's own. I got the prompt in a few hours.
Hope this helps you.
So, need to flash stock recovery after restoring nandroid correct?
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Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
Still waiting
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Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
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Im on stock and I cant update, no root, stock recovery, Ive been waiting for the update and nothing.
I dont know if is because Im outside US
I got mine back to stock and unrooted, but the upgrade still fails at about 25% and reboots. If I clear cache and wipe, it will download again, then fail again. Even after flashing back to stock, recovery still says rooted and so does the software upload screen. But I have confirmed that I am no longer rooted. I am about to give up.
Hi all, I originally rooted my phone using this post several months ag http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
I'm still fairly new to the dealings of root, and have found that I only used it to have access to a couple of cool apps that required root and at that rate I don't even use any more. That being said, I finally accepted the most recent update being okay that I would likely loose my root access. The update kept failing, I assumed because of the root. I backed up my personal data, and performed a factory reset from the phone. The phone still has superuser from the reset and still fails to update. Could someone help me return my phone to fully stock configuration? Thanks!
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Hi all, I originally rooted my phone using this post several months ag http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
I'm still fairly new to the dealings of root, and have found that I only used it to have access to a couple of cool apps that required root and at that rate I don't even use any more. That being said, I finally accepted the most recent update being okay that I would likely loose my root access. The update kept failing, I assumed because of the root. I backed up my personal data, and performed a factory reset from the phone. The phone still has superuser from the reset and still fails to update. Could someone help me return my phone to fully stock configuration? Thanks!
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Find out what odin is. Then..
Google "odin emergency tar (your build number here)" or something to that effect.
If you don't know your build number then you have some more research to do. Good luck.
I'd recommend using the Verizon update assistant. Much easier, but takes about half an hour to do:
1) Connect phone to PC using USB cord
2) When prompted for what action to take when this device is connected, select Verizon update assistant. Installation will take a few minutes.
3) Start the update assistant and confirm that you want to update the phone. The update will take a few minutes.
When the update is complete, you should have the most current update (MK2), and no root access. Should you need root again, try Saferoot - it's quick and easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys, I'll do some more research into both and report back soon.
Help! I've researched odin, downloaded and attempted to flash the stock image. Odin failed. My phone as of now is stuck in the downloading screen.
zomsoc said:
Help! I've researched odin, downloaded and attempted to flash the stock image. Odin failed. My phone as of now is stuck in the downloading screen.
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You need to flash the same stock image as what was previously on your phone.
If you don't know what version you were on previously, flash MJ7 or MK2.