Hello, I have my camera settings on 5M but when I take pictures the file size is only 800-900kb Do certain settings change with different roms or is that right? I thought 5M shots shoulf be clower to 1.5mb a pic?? Thanks.
Since 8M on the Evo 4G gave 1.8 MB pics, around 1MB pics with 5M seems pretty normal.
Thats what gets me even more confused...my 8M droid x photos were around 3MB??? Weird.
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Thats what gets me even more confused...my 8M droid x photos were around 3MB??? Weird.
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I don't think the megapixels has everything to do with the size. I'm sure there are other things that change the picture size.
ok, it is what it is I guess.
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ok, it is what it is I guess.
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Low picture file size is a good thing - Pictures usually take up a LOT of SD card memory.
I am pretty sure that it is so small because they are compressed.
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beseenwithgreen said:
Hello, I have my camera settings on 5M but when I take pictures the file size is only 800-900kb Do certain settings change with different roms or is that right? I thought 5M shots shoulf be clower to 1.5mb a pic?? Thanks.
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this issue was raised a week or so ago and I did some in depth research.
the thread is here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213601
to briefly summarize, the AOSP camera available with source code shows a roughly 75 (i'm guessing %) value being passed to what looks like a compression call when saving the image.
now, htc is probably using some type of hybrid version of the camera app or perhaps one they wrote from scratch as they have 3D support and a different GUI.
the downside to htc's stock camera app is they don't release the source code for it. the best way i can think of finding out for sure, how much compression is being used on the evo 3d is by decompiling the htc stock camera app and sifting through the reversed java source code looking for the compression call.
sorry its not a great solution, but hopefully this summary and the detailed research in the previous thread provide more information and help create a clearer picture of the issue.
joeykrim said:
this issue was raised a week or so ago and I did some in depth research.
the thread is here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213601
to briefly summarize, the AOSP camera available with source code shows a roughly 75 (i'm guessing %) value being passed to what looks like a compression call when saving the image.
now, htc is probably using some type of hybrid version of the camera app or perhaps one they wrote from scratch as they have 3D support and a different GUI.
the downside to htc's stock camera app is they don't release the source code for it. the best way i can think of finding out for sure, how much compression is being used on the evo 3d is by decompiling the htc stock camera app and sifting through the reversed java source code looking for the compression call.
sorry its not a great solution, but hopefully this summary and the detailed research in the previous thread provide more information and help create a clearer picture of the issue.
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Well that is defenitely a pretty in depth analysis Cant say I understand it all, but I'm just glad that it wasnt just me thinking something fishy is up with these pics once they are blown up....thanks for the info and I hope some dev out there can cure this flaw.
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I switched over to the titan from my BB Curve that also had a 2mp camera, and the Curve took beautiful shots. But every photo i've taken with the titan looks terrible at best... unless i'm going for that modern-art-fuzzy-washed-out look... Are there any fixes/hacks/adjustments that are available to improve the camera quality? I have everything set on high, played around with the white balance, all the other settings. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I'm on DCD's 2.3.1 rom right now, but the photo quality has been poorly ever since i purchased the phone with the stock rom and all the roms in between.
I would recommend trying the touch camera. The flash doesnt work, but the pictures are a million times better.
the touch camera is included in DCD's kitchen
Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
Can I rephrase the question?
Does anyone know why the shutter speed on the titan (and the apache) are so freaking slow?
I've found that the only decent pics I can take are pics of totally stationary objects, so clearly, the shutter is just staying open for too long.
Any input? Any chance there's a registry setting we can change to speed up the shutter?
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up.
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Like most cell-phone cameras the lens on the titan is fixed-focus [wikipedia] so the focus doesn't adjust. This has been standard for pretty much any cell-phone camera including those on HTC devices. However they put an auto-focus lens on the Kaiser. Some cameras on cell-phones are becoming more sophisticated, but that doesn't do much for us stuck with the crap-cam on the titan lol.
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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been lurkin, but here is a topic I have specific experience with...
I've just recently sold my Vogue on eBay after fenagling a $99 Mogul from Sprint. I can tell you first hand that the Vogue camera SUCKS. Every picture I took, even outside, looked like I was inside a shoebox when the picture was taken. Blurry, dreary, orange-tinted and out-of-focus pictures are the norm with the Vogue.
I can't make a comparison yet, because my Mogul won't be here until tomorrow, but I will be sure to do so once it arrives.
Not too bad for a first post, eh?
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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Anyone............???
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Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Is that Sho'nuff? I'd say you picked a pretty sweet avatar already.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
Yea, i wasn't just talking crap about the phone, i absolutely love the Titan, it just seems to me that with all the ways we've found to customize them and improve them, there HAS to be a way to improve the camera.. I mean 2MP is 2MP, there's only so much you can expect from the resolution, I understand its limited by the hardware in the end, but I'm getting circa '99 digital camera quality with my phone and i take a lot of photos for business AND personal reasons and carrying around an camera PLUS my phone seems like overkill. Anyone found that HTC Touch camera .cab?
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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No, not sure at all. I've never tried it myself. But I seem to remember dcd posting a while back (around the time that the Vogue camera first got ported) that you couldn't just drop the installation files into a ROM you were already using.
the option is in his new 2.3.2 and 1.7 roms already.
Ok, i downloaded the 2.3.2 kitchen at home installed the TOUCH cam, the improvement is... well, not enough to really call it improvement.
Any other suggestions?
this is something i know about as ive had some great cell cams until i came across the mogul.
What makes this camera so bad is a mixed between three things.
1. The shutter takes way to long
This could be un-fixable as it could just be lousy hardware.
2. The camera apps takes up to much cpu processing
The mogul is constantly trying to automatically fix the exposure/ brightness/ saturation and what not, and it never seems to stick to a setting. My best example is that when in very bright light, it doenst go through a ton of different settings.
You can test this by just cutting the camera on and going outside on a bright day, the FPS of the camera will be smooth. Then go back inside or somewhere pretty dim, the framerate will stutter as it does a bunch of constant auto settings changes.
3. The exposer just plan sucks
Theres really no excuse except this being a cell cam and cell cams generally suck.
I had a a900 and sanyo m1 before my mogul, and geez, they cost half as much and half twice the quality camera wise. The m1 practically takes studio quality shots when in the proper light (it also had auto focus ).
Ive searched the registry of the mogul hundreds of times looking for whatever is slowing the camera down, but to no avail.
I think the only thing that would give it any noticeable improvement would be something that kills problem #2, all those auto settings changes. That will speed up the shutter for sure because like i posted, when in bright light, it doesnt go through those transitions and takes higher quality and faster pics.
IMO, htc shouldve left it up to me rather i wanted brightness and saturation to fix them selfs, even if you take off the auto settings in the camera menu, they are still running.
Thats my two cents, i hope someone can further investigate
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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no, you were right. it can't be installed via cab alone.
what i did is use a cab to put the files on the device. then i move them with resco or totalcommander to the windows folder.
see cabs can't overwrite ROM files. neither can the stock PPC file explorer, but resco and total commander can.
instructions are in that thread.
Hey, I went to the EVO 3D page on HTC's website and was looking around at some How-To's. There was something very interesting under the camera link. It said that there are supposed to be advanced camera settings called "scenes" for action shots, low lighting shots, burst mode, etc. I am assuming this is the camera app that I had on my EVO 4G from one of the Kingdom Ports with the EVO 3D camera. It had things like panoramic shooting, etc.
Why don't we have that on our official EVO 3D cameras? I wanted to check on XDA and see if this was just a bug on my phone or if everybody was missing an sweet camera setting that we should have.
Below is the link for the HTC page that I am talking about. Click the How-To on the Camera and read a few.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo3d-sprint/help/camera
I see settings under menu and also from the magic wand icon on the left. No advanced like you mentioned nor scenes. Did you take OTA updates? I have not
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I did both updates and there are no such options
look at the picture of that Evo3D on the link..Where the hell is my Transparent Rosie? Mine is solid
I dont know what the hell is going on..Its almost like they changed camera software at the last minute..Seems like these scenes disappeared with the 1080p recording at the same time..Must have been another Typo but i think this is grounds for False advertising
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look at the picture of that Evo3D on the link..Where the hell is my Transparent Rosie? Mine is solid
I dont know what the hell is going on..Its almost like they changed camera software at the last minute..Seems like these scenes disappeared with the 1080p recording at the same time..Must have been another Typo but i think this is grounds for False advertising
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My Rosie was transparent until I did the OTA updates and now its solid. I guess it broke it.
Are you 100% sure? My friend didn't do the update and his is solid too
Sent from that EVO3D Thingy...I need an asprin.
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Are you 100% sure? My friend didn't do the update and his is solid too
Sent from that EVO3D Thingy...I need an asprin.
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I also did not update, and my rosie is not nor ever has been transparent. None of the available skins provide a transparent rosie either. No transparency to be found. Slightly annoying that a few minor things have changed.
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when I hit my wand it says effects distortion,Vignette,dots,dept of field,vintage etc.. Is this what u guys are talking about or is it something else?
I'll guess some web programmer simply copied that page of info from another phone's info.
Yeah, this is a little more than a typo. These are links and how to's about what our phone is supposed to do. Kind of annoying that a phone called the "Shooter" (camera reference) has a downgraded camera app then a phone that came out a few weeks before it. (The Sensation)
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HTC has the poorest camera/video smartphone features in the industry.
I communicated with them last August about my dissapointment with my Evo 4G camera with (self-made) charts showing them (what they already knew undoubtedly) comparative smartphone features between Nokia, SonyEriccson, IPhone and Samsung.
They definitively replied (last August) that they knew this and had 'numerous options on the table to address it'.
We of course saw nothing materialize on our 3D...(although the MyTouch Slider will see the first HTC camera upgrade in a month).
So for those that really value even status quo smartphone camera quality, the only options at this point are to move to Samsung ....or the Nexus Prime this fall.
Sad...Ive been an HTC user for 10 yrs.
I contacted htc about this, and some other camera issues. They said that the "scenes" feature would come out in a future update.
This is definatly false advertising.
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I contacted htc about this, and some other camera issues. They said that the "scenes" feature would come out in a future update.
This is definatly false advertising.
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Yes, I did the same and they mentioned the camera things like panoramic camera, and transparent rosie shown at CTIA were not included on the production release, and they are looking to include these in a future update. Same with the flashlight app and battery widget.
I contacted HTC and was told I didnt know how to use my phone and they would walk me threw getting to these settings. When I proved that they werent there I was told it was a typo of sorts. When I said I can produce Youtube video footage of an HTC employee showing off these features on the EVO 3D my mail went unanswered.
My friend has the same phone as me, the Galaxy S2. His phone and mine are both running 2.3.4 gingerbread and are on T-Mobile. He bought his a few months after I bought mine and the camera is much better than mine, they both are on the exact same settings and his pictures are much clearer. when comparing pictures of the same thing he can zoom in on pictues he has already took with unbelieveable quality while mine blurs when zoomed in. Does anyone know why this is? My picures aren't bad quality but his are immense. Thanks in advance, Harry.
Edit: We were both on the exact same settings and compared photos almost identical to eachother, taken specifically for comparing. I'm currently on Lite'ning rom v6.1 but even before i rooted his camera was better.
Are you sure you have same camera drivers? I think that might be the case. I'm not an expert, but by reading people problems with camera I guess that might be the problem that you are having.
Check the settings between the 2. Maybe you have it set to macro focus, like my cousin did.
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u sure its EXACT same variant? check the exact code for that model ( i9100 international )
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Check the settings between the 2. Maybe you have it set to macro focus, like my cousin did.
Im positive, we have compared multiple times and the settings have been the same everytime. We did check that.
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have a look where your samsung was made china or korea and your friends one check em both... im pretty sure therewas a problem with the china makes... if so go to samsung apps store and download camera upgrade
Firstly check that the lense is clean,finger prints on the clear plastic cover cause problems.
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Both pictures taken by ensuring the GS2 is on a stable platform? Camera handshake might amount to something.
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Check the settings between the 2. Maybe you have it set to macro focus, like my cousin did.
Im positive, we have compared multiple times and the settings have been the same everytime. We did check that.
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Have you checked the camera firmware on each phone?
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Harry_Sansom said:
Have you checked the camera firmware on each phone?
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I have, he has ONEF01 I have the samsung apps update OCCE09, I'm trying to download his ON but the only download link loops a time to wait for download.
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Both pictures taken by ensuring the GS2 is on a stable platform? Camera handshake might amount to something.
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We have taken a lot of photos making sure they are fair and his phone is always MUCH better when we zoom in on the pictures.
i have similar problems. my photo, taken outside, is quite blurry and smudgy. this is one of the example.
i'm using the international version.
i havent root or change my rom.
my lens are clear, they have no fingerprint on it.
this is one of the example
I posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543848
But yes, I'm another person who is having the same issue. Same settings all throughout (not dynamic or movie, no macro, superfine etc.). Looked at the screen and it was clearly different. Zooming in looks terrible.
I know the sensation is fairly close to the rezound.. anyone think something like this may be possible?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/htc-sensation-ice-cream-sandwich-camera-hack/
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I know the sensation is fairly close to the rezound.. anyone think something like this may be possible?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/htc-sensation-ice-cream-sandwich-camera-hack/
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Almost positive Joel will be adding it to his next BAMF release.
That would be icing on the cake.
Is this the same thing or different ?
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Is this the same thing or different ?
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That is kind of the same thing I had both mods on my sensation. Both looked good but I liked the BR one better.
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I want I want :thumbup: that would be awesome to have.
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I'm more excited about this mod than anything else with this phone. And that's saying a LOT.
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This would be amazing on our phones! I too am more excited about this mod than any other. I use my camera a lot!
If it corrects for the pops and squeaks during video recording, then that would be icing on the cake. True 30fps recording would great too. I've had pretty severe frame-rate drops during recording.
I went ahead and installed the program and it appears to work. I get larger JPG images and 1080 video at higher bitrates. A few things though. The icons at the bottom are physically lower on the screen so the text on the bottom gets cut off. The button to the gallery doesn't work from video mode but appears ok from camera mode. The effects appear to work too. This is just my preliminary findings.
I'm on CleanRom 4.1 without any of the mods.
Edit: xsnapshot, I haven't noticed the pops and squeaks since the radio update in January. I didn't notice any on the test video I took, but it was only for 10 secs so I'm not sure. I'll take a longer video later and see if I can hear the pops and squeaks.
Edit2: Not sure why you linked to an Engadget post when the original post is in XDA. Here it is so you can get the app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
I installed this yesterday and haven't had any issues with it. I have not used my Rezound camera enough to really notice a difference. I guess I should have taken a before and after pick to see if the file size changed much.
I didn't flash it. Opened the zip up and pushed each item to my phone.
I did take a picture of some clouds yesterday evening. File size was 2.62MB
Installed this tonight, my photo file sizes are huge now, though I've not seen a huge difference in 1080p video quality. I'll do some outdoor testing tomorrow, to see if there is a difference.
I'll try to post some results if I get around to it
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Out of curiosity... can this be undone
if you reflash a rom without it, yeah lol...
this doesn't do anything for video, btw guys..in joels rom it didn't, anyway. still recorded at around 8mbps, wouldn't ever hit above that to get even near 20...photo's seemed to work uncompressed though; they're bigger in size
Now that the new Jelly Bean OTA update is out, I was hoping someone could update the new camera app to include 0 compression on jpegs and 1080p video @ 40mbps. Basically everything that is included in this version (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238). The stock compression on the ICS camera is incredibly disappointing when you actually blow up a picture to full resolution.
I know there is also a JB 4.2 camera app floating around (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966190&highlight=camera) but image and video quality is more important to me than the (admittedly cool) photosphere.
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Now that the new Jelly Bean OTA update is out, I was hoping someone could update the new camera app to include 0 compression on jpegs and 1080p video @ 40mbps. Basically everything that is included in this version (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238). The stock compression on the ICS camera is incredibly disappointing when you actually blow up a picture to full resolution.
I know there is also a JB 4.2 camera app floating around (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966190&highlight=camera) but image and video quality is more important to me than the (admittedly cool) photosphere.
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This was already done MONTHS ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867966
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This was already done MONTHS ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867966
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That has been discontinued. Try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921706
Will that last link work with our phones?
Looks pretty sweet....
Thanks K's. Hadn't seen that one. I'm trying to figure out which version of camera that's using and if it will work with the OTA update. Haven't had time to try yet.
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That has been discontinued. Try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921706
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Thanks K's. Hadn't seen that one. I'm trying to figure out which version of camera that's using and if it will work with the OTA update. Haven't had time to try yet.
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I am not certain which version that is ported from. I installed the zip, and unfortunately, I didn't notice a difference. :/ So, I restored our stock camera (and Odex file).
I am getting my best results from the app ProCapture. I would love an awesome Sense camera, but I am having trouble finding anything concrete.
I also mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35478426&postcount=96
I might give the ProCapture app a try. Just wish it was free to try at full quality. I like the Sense camera app but I am really disappointed in picture quality. All of my pictures get a weird watercolor like affect due to compression when I look at them full size. I might also see if I can get the JB 4.2 camera working. Let me know if you come across anything that works well.
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I am not certain which version that is ported from. I installed the zip, and unfortunately, I didn't notice a difference. :/ So, I restored our stock camera (and Odex file).
I am getting my best results from the app ProCapture. I would love an awesome Sense camera, but I am having trouble finding anything concrete.
I also mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35478426&postcount=96
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I might give the ProCapture app a try. Just wish it was free to try at full quality. I like the Sense camera app but I am really disappointed in picture quality. All of my pictures get a weird watercolor like affect due to compression when I look at them full size. I might also see if I can get the JB 4.2 camera working. Let me know if you come across anything that works well.
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I got something for you. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053239
Nailed it!
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I got something for you. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053239
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ThrowingKs said:
I got something for you. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053239
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Definitely improved. Slower as expected due to files being twice the size.
Thanks for this.
Jack
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