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So I saw DINCs are free right now and i found X's for 79.99. Go for one of those or wait and see what comes out in the next few months....?
56K said:
So I saw DINCs are free right now and i found X's for 49.99. Go for one of those or wait and see what comes out in the next few months....?
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depends on how much patience you have personally id wait, but im waiting til next summer reguardless....
My issue is I don't like to spend over 50 for a phone.
Haha might as well grab an Inc or X then, you won't be bale to get anything better for the money you wanna spend.
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They aren't free. They are subsidized by the 2 year contract Verizon makes you sign. You are paying for the phone in installments. Phew...glad I got that off my chest. Carry on.
We know they are not "free", but its better than throwing down 199.
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We know they are not "free", but its better than throwing down 199.
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im just waitn for 1.5 ghz or 2.0 and 1080 screen res. the price will go down.. its all about patience...something new is always coming out.....
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They aren't free. They are subsidized by the 2 year contract Verizon makes you sign. You are paying for the phone in installments. Phew...glad I got that off my chest. Carry on.
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Okay, I don't want to come off strong, and this isn't only aimed at you, but I'm tired of seeing posts like this. I understand pointing out the distinction that the phones aren't actually free, but the practicality of the matter is that if you're going to be paying for your phone service whether you upgrade or not, then the phone IS free because it's not costing you any more by upgrading than it is to keep using your old phone. Sure, you're agreeing that you'll be keeping the service for another two years (or pay an early termination fee), but how often do most people switch mobile carriers?
Jeesh.
What you said is absolutely true. If you are going to stay with Verizon anyway, you might as well leverage their NE2 and upgrade deals to get cool phones. I just would like for people to understand that the phones come at a cost. If some great deal comes along where you'd save a bunch of money if you switched, you can't. If you can't afford a smartphone anymore...too bad. You still have to pay for it.
I'll probably mention it again at some point. My apologies in advance.
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What you said is absolutely true. If you are going to stay with Verizon anyway, you might as well leverage their NE2 and upgrade deals to get cool phones. I just would like for people to understand that the phones come at a cost. If some great deal comes along where you'd save a bunch of money if you switched, you can't. If you can't afford a smartphone anymore...too bad. You still have to pay for it.
I'll probably mention it again at some point. My apologies in advance.
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That's okay! LOL. Thanks for taking my comment in stride.
Actually, there's nothing preventing you from still using some old flip phone and not having the data charges any more, if you decide to change. The contract is only that you keep your phone service. There's no requirement that you keep your level of data plan, or that you even keep using your smart phone at all. You could sell it (they might not like it but they don't actually do anything about it) and use the funds to buy an old flip phone plus have some money left over, unless you keep your old phones (I wouldn't, I'd sell or recycle them for money), then it would be all profit.
Interesting... I was going to buy a Samsung Fascinate from a guy who bought it through Verizon for his kid, and then decided that they didn't really need data. He had already switch out phones. When I ran the ESN it came up bad. So I had him call Verizon and they said he couldn't drop the data plan, so he didn't sell me the plan.
And honestly, that makes sense. Otherwise everyone would grab a $400 phone for some cheap price, then immediately switch to some cheaper phone and sell the expensive one. So I don't think its as simple as you make it sound to drop the data plan.
Hmmm looks like i can only "annual" upgrade at Verizon, if i want the cheap prices i would have to wait till june.
might just get a DInc for 99.99, then do the Verizon trade in on the Eris for 132....or strip it down and use it as a VOIP phone or something for the house.
Do you have the link to the Verizon trade in handy?
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Interesting... I was going to buy a Samsung Fascinate from a guy who bought it through Verizon for his kid, and then decided that they didn't really need data. He had already switch out phones. When I ran the ESN it came up bad. So I had him call Verizon and they said he couldn't drop the data plan, so he didn't sell me the plan.
And honestly, that makes sense. Otherwise everyone would grab a $400 phone for some cheap price, then immediately switch to some cheaper phone and sell the expensive one. So I don't think its as simple as you make it sound to drop the data plan.
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I've done it twice in the past two months.
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Do you have the link to the Verizon trade in handy?
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http://www.trade-in.vzw.com/
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Do you have the link to the Verizon trade in handy?
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http://www.trade-in.vzw.com/
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FYI, depending on the phone, sometimes http://wsf4.letstalk.com/flipswap/modelselectionpopup.htm gives much more. I checked one phone a couple months ago and it was more than double on one than the other. And it was vice-versa with a different phone I had. Note that I haven't actually used either service yet, so I can't rate them.
I sold them on eBay for much more $$$!
Checked the Eris on said sight....58 bucks.
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I've done it twice in the past two months.
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Maybe its one of those things where it depends on who you talk to, or how adamant you are. If you can do really do that, seems like you could really work the system. When phones are brand new to the market, the go for crazy prices.
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Maybe its one of those things where it depends on who you talk to, or how adamant you are. If you can do really do that, seems like you could really work the system. When phones are brand new to the market, the go for crazy prices.
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I never did anything special or had to say a word to anyone. Shrug!
I'm buying a brand new, sealed Unlocked Droid Razr off a friend for $485.
He claims he has connections, but I won't be able to get a receipt.
I understand I won't be able to register for a warranty, which is fine by me...
But what are the chances that the phones are stolen, and might I get into trouble for purchasing it off him then?
P.S. He bought a Razr for himself last week as well.
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I'm buying a brand new, sealed Unlocked Droid Razr off a friend for $485.
He claims he has connections, but I won't be able to get a receipt.
I understand I won't be able to register for a warranty, which is fine by me...
But what are the chances that the phones are stolen, and might I get into trouble for purchasing it off him then?
P.S. He bought a Razr for himself last week as well.
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I would steer clear of this one.. smells fishy.
and FWIW... yes, if you buy stolen property, you have technically 'received stolen property'.. which in some areas is considered a felony.
beyond registering for a warranty, you wouldn't be able to activate it if it's reported stolen.
Most likely, someone, made an insurance claim and never sent the 'bad one' back.. or claimed they never received the replacement.
Happens more frequently than you might imagine.
just my .02
Well the insurance claim would make sense, but remember that its brand new sealed in box... Not only that, but this isn't the ONLY device he has.
He could easily order more.
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Well the insurance claim would make sense, but remember that its brand new sealed in box... Not only that, but this isn't the ONLY device he has.
He could easily order more.
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Doesn't mean they aren't stolen. Someone he knows may have got hold of a shipment of stolen razr's?
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Can't I just do an IMEI searchup to check the validity of the phone?
That would require me to unbox it though no? :/
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Can't I just do an IMEI searchup to check the validity of the phone?
That would require me to unbox it though no? :/
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I don't know how it works where you are. For you to be even posting about it on here says that you have suspicions about the phone. Steer clear and buy legit.
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You can call with the esn number and they can say if it is flagged or not. I thought all the numbers you need would be on the upc of the phone box unless that is missing.
He stuck in his old SIM card into his new phone, and it worked fine.
So I don't think it's locked.
that would not happen with a razr. the only thing the sim card slot is for is LTE so unless he is only in an ATT LTE area then that wouldnt work(unless you guys are not in the US). but yea, ask for the ESN and call and verify with VZW that it is not a stolen product. if it is clean then i would do it.
See if you can ask him to wait a few days. Even though it might not be flagged as stolen right now, it might in a few days. Depends on the person that sells it but it does look like a stolen device.
Me, I don't want the "hook up" on anything.
If I can't take it back to the store, I don't want it.
Are you willing to go to jail for a phone, well are you?
There are people out there who have friends in Verizon, AT&T, Vodafone or whatever carrier you choose. Those people sometimes get cheap stuff off of those friends.
My opinion is - you might want to check IMEI, but if it does not get flagged, just buy the phoen and sign a small buy/sell paper that will provide where you bought it from. When problems occur you will be safe.
Is this your friend? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9yisLa4ao
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LOL^ That's hilarious ;D
I don't think I'd ... go to jail even if I do buy a stolen phone...
I'd most definitely get that confiscated though :/
And I'm not from the US, I'm actually from Canada...
I think he's either buying and reselling from the internet, or knows somebody working at a mobile company here. (I hope so at least)
$499.99 on amazon.
Did he by chance get that phone when Verizon had their bogo sale a few weeks ago?
I have to wait a little while until my current contract with Sprint is up before getting the Evo LTE. But I see them on ebay for about the same money as one would cost me in the store once I'm upgrade elegible. I'm wondering how the ebay phone process works to get it working on the Sprint network? I've only bought phones from Sprint and BB in the past. I know I need a clean ESN, but what I'm wondering is about activation and insurance. Does it cost me money to activate an ebay phone or can I just do it through the website tools? Is it possible to get insurance for the phone (aftermarket I'd assume)? If so, who do you recommend? Anything else to know about getting it working?
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I have to wait a little while until my current contract with Sprint is up before getting the Evo LTE. But I see them on ebay for about the same money as one would cost me in the store once I'm upgrade elegible. I'm wondering how the ebay phone process works to get it working on the Sprint network? I've only bought phones from Sprint and BB in the past. I know I need a clean ESN, but what I'm wondering is about activation and insurance. Does it cost me money to activate an ebay phone or can I just do it through the website tools? Is it possible to get insurance for the phone (aftermarket I'd assume)? If so, who do you recommend? Anything else to know about getting it working?
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no it doesnt...if you have the phone just call sprint and ask them to activate the phone and theyll ask you for the serial number and such and activate it in a few mins and your good to go with a new evo and still out of contract
not sure about the insurance but there are places that sell insurance that you can buy i just dont know of them
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not sure about the insurance but there are places that sell insurance that you can buy i just dont know of them
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just tell them to turn on the insurance when you activate or they will "forget" to say anything. I bought an OG EVO from e-bay as long as the seller is reputable you will be ok.
I think that technically there's an activation fee, but from what I've seen before it's not that hard to bypass. If you're finding a phone on ebay that costs the same as the subsidized price, then I'd think very hard about what I was doing. These phones are normally 2-4x the price you pay when you get a subsidy; you're putting yourself up for some real risk if an unsubsidized phone costs as little as a subsidized new phone.
If you do buy it though and it does turn out to be a clean ESN/MEID, then first off congrats since you just dodged a massive bullet and saved tons of money, but also go and sign up for TEP, at least for a few months. The only reason I recommend this is because I'm still not 100% sure that the great deal you got is without a hidden problem that could jump out at you and eat your savings.
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I think that technically there's an activation fee, but from what I've seen before it's not that hard to bypass. If you're finding a phone on ebay that costs the same as the subsidized price, then I'd think very hard about what I was doing. These phones are normally 2-4x the price you pay when you get a subsidy; you're putting yourself up for some real risk if an unsubsidized phone costs as little as a subsidized new phone.
If you do buy it though and it does turn out to be a clean ESN/MEID, then first off congrats since you just dodged a massive bullet and saved tons of money, but also go and sign up for TEP, at least for a few months. The only reason I recommend this is because I'm still not 100% sure that the great deal you got is without a hidden problem that could jump out at you and eat your savings.
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Activation fee is charged on a new line or upgrade...not an ESN swap
Plus one for hidden issues/bad ESN.
I would seriously question an EVO on the second hand market for $200-300
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Activation fee is charged on a new line or upgrade...not an ESN swap
Plus one for hidden issues/bad ESN.
I would seriously question an EVO on the second hand market for $200-300
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We're definitely on the same page as far as second-hand devices go. That said, I would love clarification on the fee for hidden issues. It's not something I've ever heard of. I'm not discounting it as a falsehood by any means, I really am just very surprised to see such a thing and would love details. Screenshots work best IMO.
I've seen them go for 300-350 but less than that is a bad phone
Thanks for the input so far. I don't think I can get TEP from Sprint on a phone I did not buy from them. I've found SquareTrade offers a warranty, though. We have used them before, so that is probably the way I'd go there.
There are a lot of these phones on ebay for under $250 right now. I figure $250 is about the break even point when I include the activiation fee and almot 10% sales tax we pay around here. I can't imagine they are all scams. I appreciate the concern, though.
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Thanks for the input so far. I don't think I can get TEP from Sprint on a phone I did not buy from them. I've found SquareTrade offers a warranty, though. We have used them before, so that is probably the way I'd go there.
There are a lot of these phones on ebay for under $250 right now. I figure $250 is about the break even point when I include the activiation fee and almot 10% sales tax we pay around here. I can't imagine they are all scams. I appreciate the concern, though.
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you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
Same here
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Cool. Good to know.
I look at Craigslist and Ebay almost daily to see what they're selling for. I have one and also the GSIII. One must go soon and if its the EVO, I don't think I'll get more than $300 for it. Some are selling brand new EVO's, well suppose to be, for $250 on CL. My opinion, which means nothing, thinks that maybe the EVO has a bad reputation right now from the people that swapped them out for the GSIII. Not sure.
Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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Yes they are.
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We're definitely on the same page as far as second-hand devices go. That said, I would love clarification on the fee for hidden issues. It's not something I've ever heard of. I'm not discounting it as a falsehood by any means, I really am just very surprised to see such a thing and would love details. Screenshots work best IMO.
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misread, seperation indicated different subject. I was agreeing (plus 1) with the chance of bad phone
popper668 said:
you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
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There are ways, but it isn't the norm. And is against policy
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Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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S3's are offered by all 4 but do not have interchangeability . A sprint s3 will not work on Att etc.
It's more of a Flagship, heavily advertised phone that more people want. Simply supply vs demand
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misread, seperation indicated different subject. I was agreeing (plus 1) with the chance of bad phone
There are ways, but it isn't the norm. And is against policy
S3's are offered by all 4 but do not have interchangeability . A sprint s3 will not work on Att etc.
It's more of a Flagship, heavily advertised phone that more people want. Simply supply vs demand
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I bought new evo lte from ebay seller. When I called sprint to activate on my line the agent even asked do you want to keep TEP and I said yes. No problem at all and it is there looking on sprint's website in my profile.
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I bought new evo lte from ebay seller. When I called sprint to activate on my line the agent even asked do you want to keep TEP and I said yes. No problem at all and it is there looking on sprint's website in my profile.
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Like I said...its not impossible
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i have bot multiple phones/devices on e-bay. have not had any issues with activation.
one time i bricked a device and the guy i originally bot it from was able to fix it for a small fee.
The activation fee is only on new phones. It is only when the esn is first activated on sprint. So if I bought a new phone and activated the esn but left it new in box and then sold it to you there'd be no activation fee as the esn was already in sprints system
Seeing stuff about the new Droid DNA that was announced today, just kinda curious of who all will be getting it? I won't be able to get it real soon after release unless money and/or the DNA falls out of the sky into my hands, but just curious of who all would jump on that? It looks sick, and I think ViperDNA would be insane.
Just looking for you guys' thoughts on it.
ill buy it the second its confirmed unlock/rooted/s off/whatever
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Seeing stuff about the new Droid DNA that was announced today, just kinda curious of who all will be getting it? I won't be able to get it real soon after release unless money and/or the DNA falls out of the sky into my hands, but just curious of who all would jump on that? It looks sick, and I think ViperDNA would be insane.
Just looking for you guys' thoughts on it.
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I think it looks amazing, and it is probably my next. But I'm not eligible to upgrade until February, and even then...I have to convince the missus. Cnet's live blog didn't mention a microSD expansion, which is disappointing, but the camera looked amazing. It's always ready to take a picture by pressing the hardware button. Nice!
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ill buy it the second its confirmed unlock/rooted/s off/whatever
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Oh yeah...there is that issue too. Which makes waiting a few months less painful.
Currently on the Dinc4G... I can wait till my official upgrade date in April and I'll buy the best phone available then... Not this though, I think it is way too big for me.
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Currently on the Dinc4G... I can wait till my official upgrade date in April and I'll buy the best phone available then... Not this though, I think it is way too big for me.
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Well, that was a quick move to a new forum...Anyway I just want to say that I called that Verizon's app store is being replaced by Amazon's "services." The product page says you can use a single sign-on to all of the Amazon apps. I like most of them, but I'd rather be able to install/uninstall on my own.
This would be my next phone if it wasn't on Verizon.
I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
No chance. Fixed storage, questionable battery life.
Jumped ship from my Galaxy Note 2 pre-order to nab this one instead. Higher resolution, lots of equal or better specs, and $100 less? Yep. Battery might be an issue but not worried about it as I tend to keep my phone plugged in at my desk at work all day anyways. Bring it on!
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
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What is the method? I was gonna buy the DNA on release day without contract but I would way rather save the $400.
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ill buy it the second its confirmed unlock/rooted/s off/whatever
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yesss sirr
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
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Verizon didn't tell me to do that method. I called them asking about billing the phone to my account and they told me you can't bill preorders to your account. They also told me that any line that I switch this phone to since it carries a new two year contract is subject to be audited and if they find in their audit that it has the same IMEI number as the one I purchased on my limited data line, they will change my plan for the unlimited data phone to a limited data plan. Verizon is trying to destroy us unlimited data users any way they possibly can.
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Verizon didn't tell me to do that method. I called them asking about billing the phone to my account and they told me you can't bill preorders to your account. They also told me that any line that I switch this phone to since it carries a new two year contract is subject to be audited and if they find in their audit that it has the same IMEI number as the one I purchased on my limited data line, they will change my plan for the unlimited data phone to a limited data plan. Verizon is trying to destroy us unlimited data users any way they possibly can.
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Solution = Upgrade your current phone unsubsidized at full retail, sell your old phone on ebay to offset some of the cost, and retain your unlimited data until it's new contract time down the road.
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I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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^^^
Wireless charging + 1080p! I'm sure in!
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No chance. Fixed storage, questionable battery life.
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None of the reviews have questioned battery life, only people here that think that less than 3000mah is some sort of travesty these days.
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Jumped ship from my Galaxy Note 2 pre-order to nab this one instead. Higher resolution, lots of equal or better specs, and $100 less? Yep. Battery might be an issue but not worried about it as I tend to keep my phone plugged in at my desk at work all day anyways. Bring it on!
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not ready to decide between this and the note 2. Note 2 has sd card slot and bigger battery, but samsung plastic sucks and their radios don't seem to get along with cdma. Been a htc fan for a long time, so I want to play with both first.
looks beautiful, and reminds me of a skinny evo mixed with the original incredible!
i didnt know about this release, havent been very up to date >_< but im considering it now
Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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I get a headache just thinking about it. Call a T-Mobile store or dial 611 from a phone that is NOT one of the two phones in question.
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I get a headache just thinking about it. Call a T-Mobile store or dial 611 from a phone that is NOT one of the two phones in question.
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It was more of a question for the good experienced xda folks who would know right off top ...rather than fighting with tmo about it.
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It was more of a question for the good experienced xda folks who would know right off top ...rather than fighting with tmo about it.
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I think you would get more accurate info from T-Mobile. I haven't seen any threads with this sort of issue or question.
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I think you would get more accurate info from T-Mobile. I haven't seen any threads with this sort of issue or question.
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Ok
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To transfer or trade phones both devices need to be paid off in full
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To transfer or trade phones both devices need to be paid off in full
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But if both people are on TMO, and they both continue to pay their EIP and they just swap SIM cards, will TMO even care?
Yes. This is to safeguard you or the other guy if one of you decide to default on the payments.
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The point is if both devices are being paid on and cost the same . What's the difference if you trade and both people continue to pay on the eip towards the NOW Device that is in the account since the trade so you aren't subjected to a imei cut off cause the idoiot other guy defaults ...it should default and shut off his phone which would be the one that that you traded him and he is now using not the one he traded u .
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Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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Confusing.
But here is how it works.
Your person A is buying a phone and paying on it, then sell it to person B.
Person B will be out of luck if person A stops paying.
Tmobile really doesn't let you transfer payments of a phone. The way they see it is that it's not your phone till it's paid for.
Trust me on this. A friend got burnt on this and end up with a blacklisted phone for $300
I imagine they won't let you do this until you pay off your current phone.
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I Am Marino said:
I imagine they won't let you do this until you pay off your current phone.
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I certainly think it would be advisable to pay off the phones first, even if TMO allows the practice. It is simply cleaner for all involved.
You pay your eip and other guy pays his. Tmobile doesn't care what phone you are using. For eg..I had an S4 which I bought on eip, but sold it. I'm still paying the eip for that even though I am using the One which I bought for full price. If you buy a phone thru eip, you will pay the $20 for the next 24 months irrespective of you keep, sell, trade or throw your device.
Bottom line T-Mobile doesn't care what phone you use as long as your eip payments are made properly. The only issue happens when you trade and the other guy stops paying his eip. I believe T-Mobile can blacklist that imei. So the answer to your question, the payment you make always goes to the original phone you bought on eip, not the phone your SIM is in. Think about it, if you put your sim in a device which was paid off full, will T-Mobile stop taking the $20 eip from you? No.
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Think of EIP as a credit card (with $0 fee & 0% interest)
You are responsible for what you purchase and what you do with it afterwards is your business. (Trade, sell, etc)
That does not alleviate you from paying off your balance for what you purchased.
An IMEI can be blacklisted if the account goes into canceled status and the balance is not paid; or if the device is reported lost/stolen (this can be done by either Tmo or Assurion)
There is a high risk of getting a blacklisted (or soon to be blacklisted) device when buying on CL or just off a street corner.
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xile6 said:
Confusing.
But here is how it works.
Your person A is buying a phone and paying on it, then sell it to person B.
Person B will be out of luck if person A stops paying.
Tmobile really doesn't let you transfer payments of a phone. The way they see it is that it's not your phone till it's paid for.
Trust me on this. A friend got burnt on this and end up with a blacklisted phone for $300
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I can confirm this post as being correct. I am a tmobile rep.
Tmobile will not transfer or trade eip from one account to another. For any reason.
The money you owe on eip is attached to the account not the phone itself.
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I can confirm they will not transfer an eip under any circumstances. I just had a friend take an assumption of liability on my account. I specifically asked the rep (who spoke very poor English) if this could be done, if not there was no reason to go through. She said yes it could. Well apparently not I called back several times and what ended up happening is my friend ended up with both my lines and no phone, he was not happy . It was a giant mess and they wouldn't even let me keep doing the installment plan, only pay the device off immediately. Thank goodness I was still under the Buyers Remorse period so I just mailed it back, but my friend missed out on a one week old GS4 with the down payment and taxes made. As a good gesture I did take back over the line and termed it out myself.
Simply put if im correct...your balance is your balance and his balance is his balance. If something goes south on your end ...the phone your using at that time is blacklisted and vice versa. EIP just is a extra curveball ib the trading game
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EIP clarification
The EIP payment stays on whatever account it was purchased on, regardless of which line or which account it is being used on. The only way to make EIP go away is to pay it off early or ride out all installments. Example: You could buy phone X, make one installment payment, then sell the phone. Person A is now using that phone. You still have 23 installment payments remaining on your account even if person A is using that phone. The smart thing to do would be to take whatever money you made from selling the phone and put it towards your remaining EIP balance. That will free up EIP availability towards your next purchase. You could either do that or simply put that extra money down on a new device. Bottom Line: regardless of who owns the phone or is using it, EIP stays on the account from which it was purchased.
Hope that clears it up. I went round and round with my local store to finally come to this understanding. Thanks!
I bought a phone off someone from Craigslist. The EIP program was new and I had just switched to T-Mobile so I didn't even think of this happening. Needless to say, I'm out money and I have a shiny new coaster instead of a smartphone. All because that person stopped paying their EIP.
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Bottom Line: regardless of who owns the phone or is using it, EIP stays on the account from which it was purchased.
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THIS. it doesn't matter if the IMEI/ESN is clean at the time of purchase like it is on Sprint/Verizon. the IMEI and really the phone are tied to the original buyer forever. it doesn't matter if he never activated the phone because they scan the IMEI on the box at the time of purchase.
there is no way to transfer ownership of the phone in T-mobiles eyes, ever. I once asked it i could report a phone stolen that i had sold to a guy over 2 years ago and have that IMEI blocked. answer was yes without question.
Be safe buying used phones people. demand a receipt or proof the phone has been paid off in full or walk away. Deals can be too good to be true.