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OK so my G Tablet is on the way and I've been reading and came across a comment on another forum that the ROM's that exist are built on the original stock software and that the most recent update may be causing problems with CWM? I will be getting my G Tablet on Wednesday, should I not do the update if I am going to be flashing a custom ROM? Thanks in advance!
drum747,
I believe everyone should make their own decisions. But if you ask me -- I'd tell you to simply stick with a stock G-Tablet right now.
When you get yours and go to Settings/About you can see the version -- something
like 1.1.xxxx -- probably 3588. If not, just about as soon as you get wifi connected
it will offer you an OTA (on the air) update to 3588. That's the current working version, and compared to the crud we had back last November it really isn't bad software.
It will lack the Market and some other things...you may have to be patient there.
But you can still side-load apps and download apps directly from a number of places.
But we are waiting. Our devs have found that there is software for a possible
Update 3991. The hope is that OTA 3991 will come down in the next few weeks.
If so, at 3588 stock you will be in perfect shape for that update. And then once you
have worked with it a while, you will be able to decide whether to stick with it -- or look at other options.
It seems like everyone who come in here looks at the ROMs available like a "all-you-can-eat" buffet. The immediately start flashing ROMs and moving around software
until something goes wrong and they are stuck. Indigestion!
With a good 3588 tablet, you can read and interact here and find out the biggest and
the best, and you can learn what you need to that when you are ready you can
move up to whatever you want without problems.
Do what you want. Enjoy the G-Tablet. I think it pretty darn good!
Rev
I agree.........
Stick with the most current stock version 3588. The next update officially available from viewsonic should be very soon, but I don't think it will be 3991 as advertised
3558 was different than what it started as, or it would seem based on what I have gathered from reading old threads.
ale
You know, I have a Droid X and have really enjoyed rooting it and trying different ROM's and was really looking forward to the same type of experience on this tablet. What is the advantage of waiting until the next update? Can't I update, do a full backup and go back to that if I want? Once I install a different ROM, I am then stuck at whatever update and no further updates? Is that why you are saying to wait? Are you saying there will be even better ROM's down the road based on the new update that is coming? Or just that the new update coming might have all the things we would like?
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. Just don't forget to make nvflash to factory stock your best friend ;-)
A little of both I guess. Part of the reason I chose this tablet over others is because of the support and customization (and price!) I will try to wait for the next update before I tweak it (if I can!) Heh!! Thanks for the responses guys!! I appreciate the input!
K J Rad said:
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. )
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This is without the best quote I could image. Tinkering without first using the tab and getting to realize it's not a giant phone is the first step I think everyone should understand.
And if you do tinker then you should expect it to have opportunities (problems ).
drum747,
Not addressing your abilities or anything about you.
But read all the crash and burn threads on this forum.
IMHO, to many people are trying to do to much too fast and are
messing up their tabs and have to be bailed out.
I'm just saying be cautious, move slowly and carefully and
don't get into trouble.
However, my advice still stands. If you move on to other
ROMS, etc. now, you will cut off access to offline updates.
Then you will have to go back to stock, etc. And
sometimes going back is as much as problem as going up!
It still would be easier to stay stock now and if an update
doesn't come down soon -- you will have read and learned
and be ready to make choices.
IMHO.
Rev
IMHO... if it ain't powering your pacemaker then learn how to nvflash and have fun.
Be part of the revolution or watch it happen... ;-)
Thanks guys! I get what you're saying!
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K J Rad said:
... learn how to nvflash and have fun.
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QFT.
nvflash is not hard to get working. With a properly set up nvflash procedure and all the info on these forums, the gTab is an unbrickable as it gets.
updates
I upgraded to the vegan 7, gingerbread, how do I go back to the original stock to get the latest updates from viewsonic when update arrives?
Second that
I absolutely agree to stick with the stock ROM and play for a while. The 3588 update is very stable and usable when you change to Classic Home. I have been using it till now, side loading apps and enjoying a lot without having to worry about custom ROMS and such.
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
Roxxas049 said:
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
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Yeah I think it all boils down to what the individual wants and is willing to risk..this forum makes it easy and there are plenty of options to try just always prepare for the unexpected and dealing with the experimentals expect anything to happen!!
Who am I kidding?! There is no way I will be able to wait for the next update. I already have a ton of files set up to load on my G tablet. I will be Modding within hours of my full charge! Guess its just my nature! Thanks guys!
Butch, thanks I will be reading everything to make sure I do it right Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Closing Word...
Everyone that has contributed to this thread--
I have tried to voice the side of conservatism and restraint and
good judgement in this thread. My intention was not to hurt any
feeliings or pick on anyone or rain on anyone's parade.
But if you read what's going on in these forums, there are a lot
of folks having problems. A lot of them are in over their heads and
some have been careless and others made honest mistakes.
I know for my part, I have been working hard to try to help folks
find the tools and make the decisions to get back on track. I'm sure
I have made mistakes and my opinions are mine!
But I speak for myself in saying that even though I am semi-retired
and have more time than most -- I can't keep up this pace. And I've
heard others of the helpers say the same thing.
I also call your attention to the "TwoTapsX" thread and the fact that
the moderators are aware of the problems people are having. Roebeet
has put together a splendid ROM that many think will be the next
generation of G-Tablet software. But because of the complexity of the
mods folks already have had in the tablets, and because of the human
factors listed above -- a lot of folks have messed up their tablets.
In My Humble Opinion: Somebody has got to say that in spite of all the
"opportunities" for mods in these forums -- folks have got to start
exercising more restraint, more good judgement, more common sense in
what they do.
The devs and the folks who are helpers here can't be expected to carry the
load of keeping everyone up and running with the current problem rates. I
sometimes don't agree with the moderators, but this time I see their point.
We users have a good thing here, but if it keeps being abused......
********
Having said that, I am done here. I wish you well.
Rev
/EOT
Just an update. Within an hour of booting up I had installed CWM and Vegan. It was an easy process and now I love my g tablet!
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Welcome! Enjoy the koolaid... ;-)
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Hello, I'm sure this has been mentioned many times, but how come there is no separate development section for this device?
From what i've heard the Flyer is just the WiFi version? and the EVO View 4G is the Sprint version with WiFi/4G
How can developers develop without being able to distinguish between one from the other?
I don't understand it either. It doesn't even have to be it's own section but like a sub-section within the flyer's section. This has been brought up before and I think we are just being ignored.
i don't understand it either. Who do we need to get in touch with to add in a sub-section.
I also don't understand how you were the only one to comment on this. Like is there no other HTC View customers out there on this site? Surely can't believe that.
Perhaps now that we have a reliable s-off development will start to pick up and it will get split appropriately...
I don't mind it too much. The roms are labeled if they are view or flyer. truthfully, I would prefer a subforum but it would be too quiet.
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i don't understand it either. Who do we need to get in touch with to add in a sub-section.
I also don't understand how you were the only one to comment on this. Like is there no other HTC View customers out there on this site? Surely can't believe that.
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^^^^^Quiet would be easier to get info for our specific device.
Not the first. I also put up a thread asking but it was soon pushed to the bottom of the list because no one was responding to it. I have asked many times in many different threads. My wife has a view and I have it rooted but not wanting to go to far from that because it seems all the dev is for flyer and not view. Don't want to get into something and then have no support.
Edit: I sent a pm to the forum admin so hopefully he will have some info.
hasseye said:
From what i've heard the Flyer is just the WiFi version? and the EVO View 4G is the Sprint version with WiFi/4G
How can developers develop without being able to distinguish between one from the other?
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Nope. The US version of the Flyer is WiFi only, but Europe (and Asia? Maybe other regions) have both WiFi-only, and a WiFI/3G versions of the Flyer.
Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
Its easy for the devs to indicate in their thread what version(s) their ROM works on. This is how it works for every other device on this forum that has carrier variants. If the dev doesn't say, you ask. Not that hard.
And you also have clever guys like the team that is making the FlyHigh ROM, which automatically detects whether you have a 3G version or not.
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Nope. The US version of the Flyer is WiFi only, but Europe (and Asia? Maybe other regions) have both WiFi-only, and a WiFI/3G versions of the Flyer.
Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
Its easy for the devs to indicate in their thread what version(s) their ROM works on. This is how it works for every other device on this forum that has carrier variants. If the dev doesn't say, you ask. Not that hard.
And you also have clever guys like the team that is making the FlyHigh ROM, which automatically detects whether you have a 3G version or not.
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Just so it's clear I'm not trying to start a fight. It just seems that Flyer users seem to say "they are so similar, except for x,y and z differences.
So you are saying that the flyers roms will work on the View? No
If they are so similar then why are they separate in their development? Multiple roms for flyer and 2 for view.
Also if this smart rom is detecting the 3g/wifi only version of the flyer how does this help View users?
I am only looking for clarification because you answered a question in a thread asking for a view thread. And that doesn't answer why there is no place for view users to go. You merely stated the are alike but that still does not mean Flyer roms will work on View, or does it?. If they are so similar then one rom should fit all. Correct?(yes I know flyer has no 4g)
I also got a response from Mike the admin and he said he will put it on a request list(subforum for view). He does not make the final decision but the person who does will see this request.
CrippleB said:
So you are saying that the flyers roms will work on the View? No
Also if this smart rom is detecting the 3g/wifi only version of the flyer how does this help View users?
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Do you know whether its actually impossible for a ROM to work on the Flyer and the View? I personally don't have the knowledge to say, but my gut feeling is that a dev can make a ROM that works on any version, if they wanted to. Unless there is so much different between the Sprint radio and the Flyer one, that a completely different ROM is needed.
Same way their was a script incorporated in the FlyHigh ROM to sense the version, my thought is a dev can incorporate something similar for Flyer/View, or have something like the carrier provisioning for phone ROMs.
So its seems like its a question on whether there really is enough technical difference wit the View to justify a seperate dev forum. But when someone says their should be a separate subforum, since the "Flyer is WiFi only", its pretty clear that they don't know enough to make that determination.
I don't know if it is impossible to run flyer roms on the view. But I assume they can't because why else would they be developing separately. Unfortunately It's my wifes view tab so I can't just use it as a test bunny. If it was mine to do with what I please I would test flash one of the flyer roms. I also know someone who didn't get a data plan and is using their view tab as wifi only. I am curious if without a data plan maybe a flyer rom would work because the radios are not needed. Or if we did flash onto data plan view maybe everything would be cool except for 3g/4g parts. But if you pay for that service I'm sure you would not want a rom that couldn't use it.
I guess the next step is to look at the two roms side by side. I don't know enough about these things to see how technically different they are. Is there any dev that is making roms for both the flyer and view? Maybe that person would know the differences and if one rom can fit all. Then instead of a flyer forum it can morph into a flyer/view forum. It can be a bit confusing for some not to see their device listed in the forum section. Especially since the view is rooted and dev is going on. And some might just think that the similarities mean flyer roms can be flashed and possibly break things. I know it's their fault but you know how some flash happy people are.
redpoint73 said:
Aside from Sprint branding, there is little or no difference between the View and the Wifi/3G Flyer.
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The WiMAX radio begs to differ.
I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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Westfire said:
I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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Actually, I tried doing that. Clockwork recovery wouldn't start the installation. I don't think it will defeat the purpose because I use it as a WIFI-only device and pretty there are some out there doing the same.
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Westfire said:
I have the wifi only Flyer and my ROM is made for the wifi only one. However, as I get deeper into the programming of it, I do see all the wimax coding in the wifi only version. I imagine it is just turned off. I don't have a View or I would play around to try to get it to work. Currently, I believe if a View owner flashed a wifi only ROM, everything should work except 3G/4G which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
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Is the source code posted on the HTC developers website for the flyer's kernel compatible with the view, possibly, then? I've been holding off on a custom kernel because I thought that it wouldn't work with 4g on the view
I have a Rezound on Verizon and I want to get rid of Sense/Verizon crapware (blockbuster app that I can't delete? realy!?) and instead install plain-jane stock Android 4.0.
In addition to the stock UI, I want to be able to Tether like I used to on my Nexus One without paying an extra $20 per month or whatever.
I know very little about the unlocking/rooting process (are these asks even possible?) but I have been following these forums for a few weeks and I read they just opened up the boot loader and I am wondering what that means for me.
Could anyone give me a quick yes/no to those question and if yes, post a few links to how I might I do it? (I saw the "how-to" for using the HTCDev tool they put out today if that is what I am supposed to do...)
ps: Of course I tried to find an answer before posting and I noticed on similar questions everyone responded saying to get cyanogen ROMs but I would really prefer just going totally pure on this and with stock Google just like you get on a Nexus; is that even possible or am I misunderstanding how the UI layer works?
Thanks!
This will be possible within the next couple months. When HTC releases the official ICS update for the phone then the accompanying kernel source that will happen.
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I have a Rezound on Verizon and I want to get rid of Sense/Verizon crapware (blockbuster app that I can't delete? realy!?) and instead install plain-jane stock Android 4.0.
In addition to the stock UI, I want to be able to Tether like I used to on my Nexus One without paying an extra $20 per month or whatever.
I know very little about the unlocking/rooting process (are these asks even possible?) but I have been following these forums for a few weeks and I read they just opened up the boot loader and I am wondering what that means for me.
Could anyone give me a quick yes/no to those question and if yes, post a few links to how I might I do it? (I saw the "how-to" for using the HTCDev tool they put out today if that is what I am supposed to do...)
ps: Of course I tried to find an answer before posting and I noticed on similar questions everyone responded saying to get cyanogen ROMs but I would really prefer just going totally pure on this and with stock Google just like you get on a Nexus; is that even possible or am I misunderstanding how the UI layer works?
Thanks!
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First off, thank you for being the first newb ever to correctly create a thread on XDA. Not only that, but in the correct place! I will actually take the time to answer your questions without being pissed off, lol.
We don't have ICS yet, but when you unlock your BL and root you might want to consider getting ADW Launcher or ADW EX. Others might recommend another launcher, but ADW has a tone of ICS options. We can remove bloat with the Clean Tool once you are rooted.
It looks like HTC has unlocked all Android bootloaders[/URL] from smartphones launched after September 2011. I have just received the Amaze about a week ago.
Unfortunately I can't post the link since I don't have enough posts. But if you go to tmonews you will see the link and information HTC has posted. HTC has on there site :
All HTC Android devices launched after September 2011 are unlockable. The website will be updated accordingly to reflect this in the coming weeks. We continue to work on models launched prior to September 2011, please check back often for the status of older devices.
Please correct me if I am wrong and need more clarification on this feature that HTC is giving us - Am I correct to believe this feature will root your phone. I will take it as yes as this is what I am to gather from reading. So with this root that HTC is allowing - buy question is:
The last time I rooted a phone was believe it or not - the myTouch 3g - the original. So its been a while. I would like a new rom on this new Amaze. There are many out there, but I am not familiar with reliability and there is just so many rome- its confusing. Can someone please tell me which rom would be the way to go for the Amaze 4G. The options I would like would be simple like the wifi hotspot, wifi calling, good memory etc etc....basically the rom that comes with the phone is fine in my book, but it doesn't allow for hot spot due to the cost, and thats basically my biggest problem.
So any help would be appreciated.
Peace
sfowler39 said:
It looks like HTC has unlocked all Android bootloaders[/URL] from smartphones launched after September 2011. I have just received the Amaze about a week ago.
Unfortunately I can't post the link since I don't have enough posts. But if you go to tmonews you will see the link and information HTC has posted. HTC has on there site :
All HTC Android devices launched after September 2011 are unlockable. The website will be updated accordingly to reflect this in the coming weeks. We continue to work on models launched prior to September 2011, please check back often for the status of older devices.
Please correct me if I am wrong and need more clarification on this feature that HTC is giving us - Am I correct to believe this feature will root your phone. I will take it as yes as this is what I am to gather from reading. So with this root that HTC is allowing - buy question is:
The last time I rooted a phone was believe it or not - the myTouch 3g - the original. So its been a while. I would like a new rom on this new Amaze. There are many out there, but I am not familiar with reliability and there is just so many rome- its confusing. Can someone please tell me which rom would be the way to go for the Amaze 4G. The options I would like would be simple like the wifi hotspot, wifi calling, good memory etc etc....basically the rom that comes with the phone is fine in my book, but it doesn't allow for hot spot due to the cost, and thats basically my biggest problem.
So any help would be appreciated.
Peace
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Unlocking your bootloader does not give you root by itself.
You can obtain root but flashing a custom recovery by fastboot (which you should be familiar with coming from another HTC device) then flashing a custom rom from the recovery. However it's important to note that you must unlock your bootloader to fastboot flash anything. Also this device is very much different than the MT3G device. This device is much easier to root (provided you already unlocked your bootloader) but we cannot flash kernels by custom recovery, can't update radios, etc until we get s-off. Regarding S-OFf... doesn't look like it'll happen anytime soom.
Crazy... This phone is awesome. Would think people would be on it like stink on $hit. Wish I could do it.
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Thanks, Binary - well at least this clears things up for me. Now I have to decide...errr...thanks again and take care.
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
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yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
akarol said:
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
akarol said:
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
LiquidSolstice said:
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
akarol said:
Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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Firov said:
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it:
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
Firov said:
9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
the7thson said:
Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
LiquidSolstice said:
It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
the7thson said:
Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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akarol said:
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
jjohn999 said:
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.