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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
I think it is an advantage. ...keeps nosey folks from looking in
No there really not that bad. The only time it become an issue is when held in portrait and web surfing. It creates a kind of shiny, effect. But its not all that bad. All the criticism probably stems from people have become accustomed to retina and super amoled screens plus ye olde snowball affect, As soon as someone mentions it everyone notices in and magnifies its perceived effect.
I've read many many reviews before I decided to order my gtab. I actually came across one review that criticized the gtab because it's made of black plastic. It really seems to me that people just want to criticize for the sake of criticizing. My problem with them doing this is that they clutter up all the space making it more difficult for people like me to discern the real criticisms from the fake ones.
In landscape, looking down on it (ie. when it's resting flat on a table) is bad - solarization effect. And in portrait it's very noticeable when you tilt it slightly. I personally dislike it as I had used it primarily in portrait mode.
So it's very noticeable in landscape? Too bad, I'd prefer using it in landscape for the wider view. Are there any plans to update the newer models?
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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
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I only run high end displays on my desktop machines (Both home and work). All IPS and PVA displays (this is high end, if you're not familiar with the tech).
The GTab's display isn't that great, it's useless when laying flat on the desk (buy some sort of stand if you plan on using it at a desk). HOWEVER, using it as an ebook reader, or watching a movie, or surfing the web, all from the couch or bed? Perfectly fine.
TL;DR: It isn't great, but it's not even remotely as bad as everyone says. If you want better, buy a Xoom (for more than double the price).
Ipad definitely has a superior display. I would enjoy the tablet experience more with that. Also much heavier to hold for a period.
Watching straight on as you normally anyways, it works quite well. A weird effect or distortion does occur in portrait. It's as if pixels weren't perfectly square of something and display different this way.
Speed is great, surfing with dolphin is quite nice, and widgets and multi tasking way better than Ipad.
As long as you're looking at it straight on and not moving it around too much it's fine. The only time the viewing angles annoyed me was when I play a game that uses the accelerometer because sometime its hard to see some things while moving it around at different angles.
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I think it is an advantage. ...keeps nosey folks from looking in
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+1 what he said. Im using mine all day in public and with this screen don't even worry about someone getting a password or account number.
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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
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The Gtablet is great with the new ROMs. I use 3318 with 3.14 enhancement with no problems and does everything I want. Have Flash 10.2 fix for Hulu.
Viewing angle can be bad and is fixed immediately by handware. A simple tile here and there and it's fine. After awhile it becomes a conditioned reflex. For me, the viewing angles improved when I started using it in a case. I use the SOLO case modified with a 1/8" flat cardboard IPad sized template. The template is velcroed to the case and the tablet is velcroed to the template.
Having the tablet in a case while on your lap keeps the viewing angles almost perfect in landscape mode and allows both your hands free for speed typing on the keyboard. In portrait mode, the case is held like a book and viewing angle is also excellent and angled correctly.
In short, the viewing angle is totally controllable and can be corrected by either handware and/or caseware.
My question. Are most users, using the Gtablet with or without a case? And how often is the viewing angle an issue to you?
My experience, the viewing angle is a now a non-issue and I use the Gtablet at least 4-6 hours a day and have done so happily for the last 3 months.
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I only run high end displays on my desktop machines (Both home and work). All IPS and PVA displays (this is high end, if you're not familiar with the tech).
The GTab's display isn't that great, it's useless when laying flat on the desk (buy some sort of stand if you plan on using it at a desk). HOWEVER, using it as an ebook reader, or watching a movie, or surfing the web, all from the couch or bed? Perfectly fine.
TL;DR: It isn't great, but it's not even remotely as bad as everyone says. If you want better, buy a Xoom (for more than double the price).
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+1 what he said
When needed, the tab can be rotated to accommodate different angles (camera on bottom). I only do thisif I lay it flat. Which is rare.
>>>In short, the viewing angle is totally controllable and can be corrected by either handware and/or caseware.
uh huh - and sneakernet is a very efficient way to move files from one computer to another
Vertical viewing angle is bad from bottom
Side viewing angle is acceptable, but the vertical viewing angle is pretty bad from the bottom.
To use it laying down on the table, I have to turn it upside down first because its viewing angle from the top is not bad.
agreed - horiz is fine (in landscape mode). vert is pretty bad - and I'm using VEGAn 5.11 (the home screen does not rotate) so turning it upsdie down is not an option.
Been reading lite reviews. Found this.
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_GTABLET/#productTabReviews
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Poorly Designed Tablet
By MacGyver from Hershey, PA on 1/22/2011
Pros:
Adequate Storage
Cons:
Poor Battery Life, Poor Construction, Slow, Unreliable Performance
Describe Yourself:
Multimedia Professional, Tech Savvy
Primary use:
Business
Bottom Line:
No, I would not recommend this to a friend
We are in the process of developing web applications for various mobile devices and picked up this tablet to test our services on an Android platform. The user interface is well-designed but sluggish; a commentary on the hardware. Hardware buttons are slow to respond and battery life was terrible. This product is clearly a "me too" product for Viewsonic and represents no innovation.
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Poor battery life? Given that I don't have this tab yet. Still waiting for mine. But everyone else on the internets have said the battery life is up there with the ipad. Any idea why this person would say this?
Yeah that's strange. I can get three days of light use out of my G tab no problem.
Same here. Battery life on this device is awesome.
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Been reading lite reviews. Found this.
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Poor battery life? Given that I don't have this tab yet. Still waiting for mine. But everyone else on the internets have said the battery life is up there with the ipad. Any idea why this person would say this?
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because the moron was probably using the stock image which sucks. im sure that its power management is less to be desirable.
They probably used the shipped rom for their testing, which may have poor battery life (I wouldn't know, flashed a custom rom within an hour of opening mine). I use Vegan, and battery life is great. I watched about 4.5 hours of movies on mine yesterday with wi-fi on and still had plenty of juice left
Hello,
i am thinking of either buying the Nook or the Viewsonic...
I know that i am in the Viewsonic section, but are there major problems with the Viewsonic?
Would you recommend it over the Nook Color?
Thanks!
Well i had the nook color before i bought the viewsonic but so far im really happy with my decision the nook color is really great tablet but so is this one basically its up to you ?
I have both. The Nook is really nice and stable with the Honeycomb ROM, but the screen is just too small for my daily use. The only other negative comment on the Nook, is that the audio level (speaker volume) is very low. Headphones are fine, but audio output using the speaker is not great.
My G-Tab is better for me, for everyday use, due to the larger screen, and faster processor. I'm running Vegan 5.11, which runs well, except for a few minor glitches. Hopefully, at some future date, Honeycomb will be ported to the G-Tab.
Bottom line, both are good devices, just a matter of personal preference as to which one will work best for you.
I have a g-tab and have only used a Nook for a few tens of minutes.
g-tab: excellent hardware speed, not so great screen, heavy-ish
nook: excellent screen, not so fast hardware, light-ish
If you're going to be mostly reading books with a few Android apps thrown in, it's the Nook hands down. If you're looking at action gaming, or remote access to your PC via remote desktop it's the g-tab.
Both have a good selection of alternate ROMS. IMO, they both need ROM replacement, although less now than six months ago. Excellent user communities for both.
Hard to go wrong, actually...
I have a g-tab and have only used a Nook for a few tens of minutes (so somewhat skewed experience).
That said...
g-tab: excellent hardware speed, not so great screen, heavy-ish
nook: excellent screen, not so fast hardware, light-ish
If you're going to be mostly reading books with a few Android apps thrown in, it's the Nook hands down. If you're looking at action gaming, or remote access to your PC via remote desktop it's the g-tab.
Both have a good selection of alternate ROMS. IMO, they both need ROM replacement, although less now than six months ago. Excellent user communities for both.
Hard to go wrong, actually...
Gtab has a serious speed advantage, and the nook's screen is beautiful. I would personally focus more on the size difference than specs (unless your looking to game or watch high res video). The size of the tablet will have the most dramatic effect on how you end up using it.
If you want to read in portrait mode the Gtab's viewing angles will disappoint. Landscape is tolerable, but not ideal.
Looking to incorporate your tablet into your keychain? Nook color has that hook.
Gtab is a piece of crap. I highly recommend either the nook or the ipad.
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Gtab is a piece of crap. I highly recommend either the nook or the ipad.
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That doesn't really have any justification behind it... Considering there are plenty of users that would completely disagree with you. I'm not sure you can go wrong buying a 10" tablet for $280.00. What is wrong with it that you classify it as crap? To be honest, the update to the 3588 version out of the box was pretty good. The only negative I had was that there isn't a native video conferencing app and not netflix support as of yet. If those two things are implemented, a tablet for $280.00 is a bargain. I have no other complaints in day to day use. It is stable and does what I want it to do. My brother just bought the iPad 2 and I agree it's pretty nice but he also paid $500.00 plus tax. To each their own.
I would recommend the nook color unless you find a good deal on the Gtab (sub $300). The screen on the Nook is fantastic and it is quite portable. The Gtab while powerful has some flaws, speakers, screen, and terrible CS from Viewsonic (see the threads in the general section).
The plus is that both of them have great support from XDA and are supported with CM7
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That doesn't really have any justification behind it... Considering there are plenty of users that would completely disagree with you. I'm not sure you can go wrong buying a 10" tablet for $280.00. What is wrong with it that you classify it as crap? To be honest, the update to the 3588 version out of the box was pretty good. The only negative I had was that there isn't a native video conferencing app and not netflix support as of yet. If those two things are implemented, a tablet for $280.00 is a bargain. I have no other complaints in day to day use. It is stable and does what I want it to do. My brother just bought the iPad 2 and I agree it's pretty nice but he also paid $500.00 plus tax. To each their own.
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Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Oh, I see.
goodintentions said:
Shhh, I'm redirecting all the whiners to apple.
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Nope, IMHO you are (in this specific incident) pushing away a potential customer.
The guy is just making a legitimate question and asking for feedback, I don't see any whining here, so if you don't feel the need to give him true feedback (perhaps because one might think that its listed all over the forum and reviewed to death online) then don't give him an unjustifiably negative one (at least without enough smilies) .
I just don't think the guy is in a situation that would make him see logic behind your "get an ipad" canned reply (not to mention it doesn't even apply to him).
basically for me is simple; if ipad or xoom were 250$ i would have bought them... but they are not worth it at that price...
I think i'm going for thr nook although kindle just slipped in the options...
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basically for me is simple; if ipad or xoom were 250$ i would have bought them... but they are not worth it at that price...
I think i'm going for thr nook although kindle just slipped in the options...
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I do own the two (nook and gtab), both are overclocked and running the same CM7 ROM.
I honestly think both have different usage scenarios, nook is incredibly more portable, screen more beautiful, the gtab is incredibly more powerful (more capable of running heavy and resource demanding applications and future ROMs) bigger screen though less portable but there is an undeniable screen real estate (that makes the difference).
GTab should only be considered if its below $300 all in (as mentioned earlier), nook has been as low as $200 (N&B ebay deal), currently $225 (refurbished).
Again it all depends on how you intend to use it.
GTab vs. Nook
Comes down to use. If you want an eReader which is a powerful tablet, get a nook and plan on putting a custom ROM on it (the latest update is better, but no match for a custom ROM and rooted device). If you want comfortable eReading, don't get a GTab - way too heavy.
If on the other hand you want a netbook replacement, get a GTab, case and bluetooth keyboard (still plan on the custom ROM).
Kindle got mentioned, not sure why but it implies you only really want an eReader. I have all three, and the Kindle has the best screen for reading books outside, the Nook the most beautiful screen and is fine inside but harder outside and the GTab (as noted above) is just not designed for that use.
All are good devices - we need a better idea of what you want from your device.
I had a nook but gave it to my wife and bought the gtab. No regrets at all. Its kinda heavy but with overclock now has more juice than my netbook. If you want an ereader that does some other stuff too, get a nook. If you want a true tablet for half the price of the competition, get the gtab. Also be ready to mod it out - I really was worried I had made a mistake at first. It took me about a week to get it all set up. Overclock and a keyboard replacement (thumbkeyboard) were key for me to make the tablet responsive enough.
I had a gtab (from Nov 10 - March 11) and sold it on Eby and got a nook color for $200 dollars. Gtab was fast and good.. except the weight and screen. I mostly used it for reading comics, playing games and web browsing. Holding it for over an hour caused pain to my wrist and the viewing angle was bad for gaming such as raging thunder, backbreaker, etc. The nook color screen is just great and the weight is very nice too. I installed Amazon appstore on it and running CM7 on SD card, it is definitely not as fast as Gtab but it is not bad, very useable and responsive. My son (5 years old ) loves the nook since it is very light and small, he can play with it all day.. and my wife can carry it on a subway to work too. very family oriented..
If you can get the nook for about $200, I will go for it. If you want a powerful android tablet, I would either get the Asus transformer (target has it onsale for $360 - preorder) - check out slickdeals.net.
I am keeping my nook and I am going to get a nice tablet soon (Galaxy tab 8.9 or G-slate or Asus Transformer)
Good luck..
I have both. I had wanted an android tablet and was going to get the xoom, but couldnt justify the high cost. After reading about the custom roms available for the nook, I picked it up. I loved it and still do. But I got a great deal on a Gtab and couldnt pass it up. Now I'm selling my nook color. Its still a great device (gorgeous screen), but I found that for me personally, a 7inch screen is too small for a true tablet experience. I also love the extra ports/speed of the gtab.
Like everyone is saying, it really depends on your usage. If you really want a nice ereader, with some very cool extras and a tablet-like experience, nook color hands down.
However, if you're like me and really wanted a tablet, and hoped the nook would fill that void, you'll most likely feel more satisfied with the gtab. Just make sure you get it for a good price. I would never in a million years pay the prices for the gtab that it used to sell for. But now that its sub 300 (with some people selling theirs for a lot less), I think its totally worth the cost.
Side note: I don't actually have a problem reading on the gtab like a couple of other people on here seem to be complaining about. The screen seems fine in portrait mode to me. Its great for reading comic books and not having to pan around (which became a little annoying on the nook). But I may just not be as sensitive as some
Side note: I don't actually have a problem reading on the gtab like a couple of other people on here seem to be complaining about. The screen seems fine in portrait mode to me. Its great for reading comic books and not having to pan around (which became a little annoying on the nook). But I may just not be as sensitive as some
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I've been reading books and new on the train.
Nook - No Camera or Mic
The one thing I forgot in my last post and is not covered in the thread is the lack of communications - you will not be using Skype, GTalk, etc, for anything other than text messaging if you go with the Nook.
GTab has a front facing camera and mic. - so if comm's is important, it's a no brainer.
So, have you ordered anything yet ?
Made a mistake and now I regret it. Don't get me wrong. The gtablet is a REALLY great device. Very fast (never used a Tegra II device before -- it's awesome). Touch response it good. I've watched some TV on it using Flash, which is really fun and impressive. It loads full size web pages fast enough I don't have any desire to install operamini.
That being said, the dpi and viewing angles leave something to be desired for reading. My eyes actually start hurting a bit (especially in portrait mode with the weird (non)3D effect -- like it's confusing my brain or something.
I am well aware this is documented else where (I've been traveling around the site, and have even installed a few roms -- obviously a great development device with good community support) in comparisons between the NOOKcolor and the gtablet.
QUESTION: I'm not going to keep it because I'm not satisfied with it as an ereading (somewhat heavily) device, but I'm stuck with it for a while. Does anyone here have any suggestions for how to make reading more bearable in the meantime? I've been looking around, but haven't been able to find much.
On a side note, what I've really wanted to do is switch to a Dell Streak 5, but those are more expensive than both devices...
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My eyes actually start hurting a bit (especially in portrait mode with the weird (non)3D effect
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Upside down landscape is your best bet, oddly enough.
This is the exact reason i jumped the gtab. Massive headaches in portrait
Ill trade you a nook color for that gtab
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Made a mistake and now I regret it. Don't get me wrong. The gtablet is a REALLY great device. Very fast (never used a Tegra II device before -- it's awesome). Touch response it good. I've watched some TV on it using Flash, which is really fun and impressive. It loads full size web pages fast enough I don't have any desire to install operamini.
That being said, the dpi and viewing angles leave something to be desired for reading. My eyes actually start hurting a bit (especially in portrait mode with the weird (non)3D effect -- like it's confusing my brain or something.
I am well aware this is documented else where (I've been traveling around the site, and have even installed a few roms -- obviously a great development device with good community support) in comparisons between the NOOKcolor and the gtablet.
QUESTION: I'm not going to keep it because I'm not satisfied with it as an ereading (somewhat heavily) device, but I'm stuck with it for a while. Does anyone here have any suggestions for how to make reading more bearable in the meantime? I've been looking around, but haven't been able to find much.
On a side note, what I've really wanted to do is switch to a Dell Streak 5, but those are more expensive than both devices...
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What e-reader app are you using? I have noticed text quality variances and viewing angle improvement between different apps.
Assuming you are using the Nook app, what I have done is flip the device so the power button is on top in portrait. That angle, with mine works very well. Another think you can play with is the templates built into the nook app. I find the white on black works well for me, even though I end up returning to black on white to have the feel of a printed page.
The initial screen for the nook app will be upside down if but the book will open in the correct format so you don't have to read upside down.
I am debating between the G tablet and Nook Color since price is similar. I went to Office Depot and looked at the G tablet, though the ceiling lights in there give some glare, it was hard to make an overall judgement on the screen in there. I don't think I found it that bad. I can see the horsepower this has over the Nook color might be something I will like, I like tinkering with stuff (my pc overclock, my old windows mobile 6.5 wing overclocked etc) so modding I am not scared of.
I read about people disliking the screen.. Is it really that bad? From you owners, does it bother sometimes or is it really no big deal?
I am thinking I will use it on plane flights and in hotels, as well as leisure etc.. i do want to play games though and general multimedia.
Also are there some screen protectors and cases that fit it?
Replies much appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, the viewing angles are a pain to deal with. Depending on how you plan on looking at it will determine how you hold it (landscape) either camera up or camera down. The stock rom won't let the screen rotate so you will have to find one that does. I'm typing on it now, btw.
Back to the screen; the colors get washed out easily and gets frustrating. Also, the touchscreen sensitivity is ****ty. Gtablet for dummies has 2 fixes for this, though, so that's a start.
I just really hope Google releases source on honeycomb and viewsonic releases the drivers to take advantage of the tegra2
Thanks for the quick response, how about with a screen protector? I read that it helps.
I ordered a screen protector off from ebay. I haven't had any trouble with it. However I don't believe it has improved the screen at all.
An interesting note the package on the protector said it was for the Acer Iconia, but it still fits (quite tightly) with a cutout for the camera. I'm not sure if the dimensions are exactly the same... Perhaps someone can confirm this?
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I read about people disliking the screen.. Is it really that bad? From you owners, does it bother sometimes or is it really no big deal?
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Yes, it's really that bad. It's a netbook screen, which means its meant to be viewed dead on center left/right, in landscape, at (and this is the real killer) about a 30 degree angle.
In dark settings its fine, but you have to hold it (no reading flat on a table, unless you like leaning over the table) and no portrait reading, so using it as an ebook is, er, less than satisfying.
I suggest you NEVER look at a real tablet screen that was actually designed for easy viewing from many different angles.
Other than that, it's fantastic.
My gTab's viewing angles are just as bad as everyone else's and I rarely care. Also, when the kids and I are watching YouTube or other videos, the tablet is in landscape and three of us can watch side by side with only minor impact due to the viewing angles.
I would rather have an IPS screen but for me price is a big factor; then again, I just bought a used table saw at GoodWill for $37, so that's the kind of shopper I am. If you don't mind the viewing angles go for it, but better tablets are always coming out so today's IPS tablets may be marked down very soon.
have any of you tried this screen protector? in the reviews, people where saying it helped alot. http://www.amazon.com/XtremeGUARD©-...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312573112&sr=1-5
And some said the skinomi helped http://androidforums.com/gtablet-tips-tricks/320532-improved-viewing-angle.html
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Yes, it's really that bad. It's a netbook screen, which means its meant to be viewed dead on center left/right, in landscape, at (and this is the real killer) about a 30 degree angle.
In dark settings its fine, but you have to hold it (no reading flat on a table, unless you like leaning over the table) and no portrait reading, so using it as an ebook is, er, less than satisfying.
I suggest you NEVER look at a real tablet screen that was actually designed for easy viewing from many different angles.
Other than that, it's fantastic.
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Hilarious and pretty damn close to what I think. However, I use mine on a stand at just the right angle and have no issues.
Hypertek
If you do want the thing to be a capable book reader, get the Nook. It is flashable with better ROMs and is designed for ebooks.
I originally thought I would use my Gtablet for them, but learned better about 10 pages into the first one.
My Kindle is perfect for it though as is the Nook.
BTW, I got the Skinomi full skin (woodgrain) and it came with the screen protector. Works great and looks amazing.
I've own/ed both a nook color and a gtab. The nook screen is nicer. Plain and simple. Better viewing angles, the picture seems more vivid, its just all around nice. That being said, I still sold my nook color for a gtab and would make the same decision again in a heartbeat.
The thing is, if you want an ereader, the nook color is the clear winner. But if you want that tablet experience (like I did) and are looking to the nook color for it, its going to leave you wanting. I rooted my nc, threw CM7 on it, over clocked it, remapped the hardware buttons, everything you can tinker with I did. But as great as it was, its still never really felt like a real tablet. I enjoyed the portability, but the 7inch screen felt a bit cramped.
The Gtablet on the other hand gives you the better tablet experience. Yes the viewing angles on the screen are bad, but honestly, its never once been a concern of mine. You have to hold the tablet anyway right? So whats the difference between rotating your wrist a couple of degrees to get a better viewing angle? Its not as big of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. The only time i could see it becoming a problem is if you're laying in bed and want to lay it relatively flat on your stomach or something, then the screen would cause issues. The angles are as bad as people say, but its really not a problem in day to day use. When I use a device I lookat it straight on, so the viewing angle doesn't bother me. I don't understand how everyone seems to be using their tablet in a super tilted manner. Plus if you buy a Clip Case, you can adjust the viewing angle when you set your tablet down on a table or something. I also bought a tablet stand for when I want to use the gtab as an extra monitor in portrait mode.
My point is, if the screen is the ONLY deciding factor between the two for you, then you should go with the nook color. But in all honesty, if you look at each product overall, the gtab is a much better choice if you want a tablet.
You just have to make sure you get rid of the crap software that comes loaded on the gtab for one of the roms here (gtabcomb is really nice). How that piece of crap software was allowed to make it to market is beyond me. Whoever is in charge of quality control needs to be fired yesterday.
thanks, I appreciate all responses. pyro6128 that is just what I wanted to hear.
Yeah I went to bestbuy and looked at the NC and then drove down to office depot and looked at the gtablet and thought it wasn't bad.
Im sure it will give me some good entertainment as well on flights. Just gotta see how soon my dad can order it for me. he owes me some money and I said just get me a tablet . =)
My pc is overclocked, videocard is volt modded and watercooled. I don't mind putting in a little work =)
Since I have 3 tablets and one being a NC running CM7, I can compare the NC and G-tablet closely.
The screen on the NC is sharp and vivid, the only reason I got another 10" tablet is the viewing area.
The screen on the gtablet is not as sharp as the NC and the color is not as vivid, viewing angle is worst then my other 2 tablets, but it is fast and big so I use it instead of my laptop for net access while I am in Starbuck and out of the house. The NC is what I use sitting on the sofa or in bed
Sometimes when I hold my tablet in a certain spot (usually right side) and let go... the backing makes some sort of clicking sound. The device doesn't feel flimsy to me, as other have complain... but that noise worries me.
Have others experience this clicking sound when holding their tablet?
Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck. I also found that if I pressed on the back, the pressure point showed on the screen and even engaged the touch sensor.
This along with other annoyances (screen shadow along bottom edge, a dead pixel, diagonal lines on screen and breaking of Firefox Sync by Sony Android OS) made me return it. I expect a $600 to be well-built and last at least 2 years and this glue unsticking spoke of shoddy design and a short product life.
My original Xoom cost the same and is still fully functional and unblemished. I was hoping the Xperia would be a worthy replacement, but it was a disappointment.
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Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck.
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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Mine makes the same clicking sound. And I also have the "loose headphone flap". I'll ask for an exchange.
I have the same problem with mine. It feels like the glue is not holding well. Hopefully it can be easily fixed by SONY if it start to cause problems.
One more thing. When you press the loose place it makes screen go white, which worries me a little. No problem if you using case but still something like that shouldn't happen in high end device. Maybe it is thinnest tablet but it is not the strongest
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SmartBugger said:
That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I got it from newegg, and I suspect they will be good about doing an exchange. That being said, I don't want to do an exchange if this problem is very common. So perhaps I should ask... has anyone NOT experience this issue?
The main reason why I got this instead of the nexus 10, was because of its waterproof nature. I want a tablet I can go to the gym with... and not having to worry about sweat/water was a huge selling point for me.
There's really no way of knowing how widespread the issue is without a proper survey of a representative sample of Xperia Tablet Z owners. People on forums tend to go there with problems they have so forums are full of people with problems Not a great sample.
Ultimately, all that you can realistically do is keep exchanging until you get one you like, or you or Newegg lose patience.
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Mine can flex slightly (which triggers recognition on the screen), but I have no clicking sounds or similar things - mine feels very solid and feels top-notch otherwise, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's quality control for Japanese units was tighter.
Same thing here SGP321 FROM DUBAI, seems like the glue between the back cover and whatever inside got unstuck...
My xperia tablet Z makes the clicking sound on both the bottom left and right, around the speaker area.
To me it sounds like the paper (or plastic) that is generally found in a (earplug) speaker.
Seeing that the slim design i think it is more then likely that we are pressing on the speaker of the tablet, and not so much the glue coming apart.
If it were the glue then it would most likely be at random places across the tablet. Seeing that we are all reporting the noise in the same general area, which also happens to be the place where the internal speakers are located, i feel that it is the speaker making the clicking (crackling) noise.
Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
dazbut28 said:
Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
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Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown)
Cat McGowan said:
Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Looks easy enough to pop off the back and add some additional tape or silicone adhesive, if you're so inclined.
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I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white. The sticky back is still happening and I also found out that I don't really like Android tablets. That, or they're just not ready for me yet. The 16:10 aspect ratio has no advantage to me, just disadvantages, and apps that I want to use just aren't good enough or they're non-existent.
So I'm returning it and waiting for the iPad mini 2. Sorry, but the Nexus 7 felt like a blown up experience of my phone rather than a shrunken down experience of a tablet.
Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
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I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white.
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I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
salanos said:
I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
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My monitors are every so slightly yellowy, but I was able to use that with a slight colour value change. It seems mine just has odd variables on different tones... quite a bit like my old Galaxy Nexus was like (Yellow whites, green greys and purple dark greys). That's actually why I really dislike AMOLED, so it's a bummer that this IPS panel isn't as accurate as I'd like.
And yeah, really doesn't like they're super tight on the international side. I didn't really want to bother with what could have been back and forth replacements.
hasenbein1966 said:
Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
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Well look at that, I do actually use and like Android (it's the only mobile OS I use right now). It's just the tabs that aren't up to snuff for me. Openness and customisability is only a good thing if it actually helps make something more useful for me. I find those aspects very useful on my phone. I need to be quick and efficient and I can do that on an Android, but not really on an iPhone. A tablet serves a different purpose for me. It's a leisure/convenience device, I don't need any customisation for it to allow me to do anything faster. Also, my phone has a ton of apps and absolutely all of the ones I want, this Xperia tab doesn't, and definitely not all the apps I consider essential.
Sorry that I have different needs and wants than you, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not wrong in being here because 1) I own the tablet that's in question here and 2) I use Android as my only mobile OS right now and I'll still be using it on my phone for a long time. I wasn't trying to start some petty flame war here, I was just explaining my issues with this tablet and elaborating on why I'm returning it. So let's stay on topic here, huh?
If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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Well I don't really watch much video away from my PC anyway, and I hardly ever watch any movies either. You've hit the nail on the head though, it's what I plan to do on it that makes the difference. I do a lot of social media stuff, reading, some browsing, games and a bit of video. Reading is far better on a 4:3 screen in portrait. I like 16:9 in portrait on my PC for reading, but trust me it's very different on a tablet. Also, I can't even get a half-decent way of using Facebook on the XTZ either. The official app is awful and Friendster which is supposed to be great is honestly rubbish.
Really it's just something to waste time on, read stuff on and be a convenient portable web browser. A 10" tablet isn't very convenient tbh and the Nexus 7 isn't either when it's so similar to my phone that's already in my pocket. An 8" 4:3 screen is a lot different from a 4.7" or 7" 16:10 screen. It's big enough to be something I want to use over my phone in some situations and small enough that it can travel most places quite easily.
It's just personal preference, it's been said a million times, but I think you already know that. Back on topic though.