My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
Why 1.5? What's magic about that number? Doubt we will ever see 1.5 on Atrix. Dual core already gets hot enough at 1.1 and there is no cooling available. Different to a single core OC.
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that guide is extremely outdated. the kernel module you're trying to use was released before the bootloader was unlocked, and as far as i've read from Faux123 there is something limiting our ability to overclock that we just haven't broken through yet.
belig1234 said:
My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
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A few things to consider.
May be the kernel you are using is not meant to work with CM7 Beta.
May be you are following the steps but the guide itself is broken.
May be you are trying to OC your phone to 1.5 GHz but the script is broken.
You said you are running Faux's kernel, well that kernel is only taking your phone to 1.1 GHz, how and why do you expect your phone to magically OC itself to 1.5?
Just 2 cents : I agree with CaelanT, this phone is a Monster itself. When you OC your phone to 1.1, it just bloody flies... Whats the need to OC it all the way to 1.5? Also, while OC'd, it heats up like a *****... I have seen my phone temperature reaching > 45 degrees... Man, it feels like a burning charcoal... I am just wondering if one will actually end up blowing up his/her phone just cuz of OC'd phone.
I actually keep mine underclocked...
Cheers!!!
creativedevil said:
A few things to consider.
May be the kernel you are using is not meant to work with CM7 Beta.
May be you are following the steps but the guide itself is broken.
May be you are trying to OC your phone to 1.5 GHz but the script is broken.
You said you are running Faux's kernel, well that kernel is only taking your phone to 1.1 GHz, how and why do you expect your phone to magically OC itself to 1.5?
Just 2 cents : I agree with CaelanT, this phone is a Monster itself. When you OC your phone to 1.1, it just bloody flies... Whats the need to OC it all the way to 1.5? Also, while OC'd, it heats up like a *****... I have seen my phone temperature reaching > 45 degrees... Man, it feels like a burning charcoal... I am just wondering if one will actually end up blowing up his/her phone just cuz of OC'd phone.
I actually keep mine underclocked...
Cheers!!!
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Hi,
If there is a limit on clock frequencies, in my experience that implies a multiplier register needs to be changed. But a 50% overclock is rather ambitious, 10% is probably the safest range.
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Hi,
If there is a limit on clock frequencies, in my experience that implies a multiplier register needs to be changed. But a 50% overclock is rather ambitious, 10% is probably the safest range.
Cheers!
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Excessively overclocking mobile devices - is an incredibly stupid idea,... unless you have no problem getting a hardbrick one day.
Try overclocking your desktop PC up to 50% without additional cooling and let us know how it goes. Phones have NO cooling, they weren't meant to be overclocked that much.
Besides our current Tegra 2 setup has enough performance for everything available on Android at this moment.
If anything is lagging for you, that's because:
1. Motorola released crappy laggy motoblur
2. some app developer released crappy laggy app
Why does overclocking always turn into a penis measuring contest?
Focus on software optimisation, not on more raw performance to make up for crappy code.
ok thank you everyone I'll stick with kernel faux123
xploited said:
Excessively overclocking mobile devices - is an incredibly stupid idea,... unless you have no problem getting a hardbrick one day.
Try overclocking your desktop PC up to 50% without additional cooling and let us know how it goes. Phones have NO cooling, they weren't meant to be overclocked that much.
Besides our current Tegra 2 setup has enough performance for everything available on Android at this moment.
If anything is lagging for you, that's because:
1. Motorola released crappy laggy motoblur
2. some app developer released crappy laggy app
Why does overclocking always turn into a penis measuring contest?
Focus on software optimisation, not on more raw performance to make up for crappy code.
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Hi,
The internet has heard your complaint and will adjust itself accordingly. Lol
Cheers!
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Faux just tweeted ATRIX can be overclocked to 1.3 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1873
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I just overclocked my sgs 2 to 1.6ghz so I'm sure the Atrix will get there soon.
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I would like to see 1.5ghz too. hopefully our chipset can handle that
When I look in system info in quadrant after running full bench it only shows 1 core but when I reboot or end application and relaunch it recognizes both cores.
belig1234 said:
My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
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That module doesnt work, please check 0.1.8 from faux, everybody is having bootloops, but im loving to have 1.3ghz OC ^^
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ChongoDroid said:
I just overclocked my sgs 2 to 1.6ghz so I'm sure the Atrix will get there soon.
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SGS2 starts out with dual core 1.2GHz, so technically you haven't reached a .5GHz OC there. Even if you did, comparing the SGS2 to the Atrix is apples to oranges.
The problem with the Atrix is not only whether the hardware will OC to 1.5GHz. Heat is the biggest problem, and with very high temps on a 1.1GHz OC under load I doubt as I mentioned before we will ever reach 1.5GHz.
I don't know what temps the SGS2 processor gets to, so I can't comment on that.
1.1/1.2 GHz is quite fast enough for me, and as someone else said, it just turns into an epeen war, with no actual rhyme or reason for wanting to OC so high other than to see if it is possible, which is all good and well.
I can OC my PC way higher than it currently is, but I choose a conservative approach because I do not want to fry any components, have graphical artifacts, etc. Same goes for my phone. I want stability and to not have to wave it around in the air to manually actively cool it!
CaelanT said:
SGS2 starts out with dual core 1.2GHz, so technically you haven't reached a .5GHz OC there. Even if you did, comparing the SGS2 to the Atrix is apples to oranges.
The problem with the Atrix is not only whether the hardware will OC to 1.5GHz. Heat is the biggest problem, and with very high temps on a 1.1GHz OC under load I doubt as I mentioned before we will ever reach 1.5GHz.
I don't know what temps the SGS2 processor gets to, so I can't comment on that.
1.1/1.2 GHz is quite fast enough for me, and as someone else said, it just turns into an epeen war, with no actual rhyme or reason for wanting to OC so high other than to see if it is possible, which is all good and well.
I can OC my PC way higher than it currently is, but I choose a conservative approach because I do not want to fry any components, have graphical artifacts, etc. Same goes for my phone. I want stability and to not have to wave it around in the air to manually actively cool it!
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hahahaha well said! but how is comparing the 2 apples to oranges??? aren't they almost identical
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So I know the evo 3d has a new snappdragon 1.2hz dual-core and I was wondering what does anyone think the overclock potential would be. I'm using a g2 Overclocked to 1.9ghz and I think this would be able to get a lot higher than that. So how high do u think we could get this?
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Over 9000.
Im not sure, but im sure it would scream at 1.9
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Yes, it will be overclockable, this is a feature I and many other developers at HTC can guarantee!
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Nobody's going to know until the new snapdragons arrive on something first
1.9 would be awesome. I can't get my evo 4g about 1.3...
My first phone I really messed with was the Fuze (It's still my current phone since I am waiting for this beast to come out and make the switch to sprint) and as I would have loved to have it faster, its always been stock speed (Fan of the Energy Rom series). I'm just curious as to what the reason you need a dual-core 1.2GHz processor overclocked? I understand for the wow/bragging reason, but as to serious applications, what is its purpose and how much extra drain on the battery is it (I understand this is a 'rough' estimate).
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My first phone I really messed with was the Fuze (It's still my current phone since I am waiting for this beast to come out and make the switch to sprint) and as I would have loved to have it faster, its always been stock speed (Fan of the Energy Rom series). I'm just curious as to what the reason you need a dual-core 1.2GHz processor overclocked? I understand for the wow/bragging reason, but as to serious applications, what is its purpose and how much extra drain on the battery is it (I understand this is a 'rough' estimate).
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well most of the time you don't really need your phone overclocked that high (i usually have my g2 set to 1.3 to 1.4ghz) but when you really want to get thngs done fast or are playing lots of games that may need sumthing that fast its very usefull. bragging isnt really a reason i did it for even though most people think its crazy. battery drain is one of the things you have to worry about. i use setcpu's profiles to save battery but it still drains battery fast. if you are really worried about battery life im pretty sure they will have some extended bateries seeing how popular this phone is getting.
They tested it at 1.5 to get the latest benchmarks for the gpu so I'm sure it can go higher than that and still be stable.
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Its a 1.5 ghz processor down clocked to 1.2. I am sure it can go well above 1.2.
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Its a 1.5 ghz processor down clocked to 1.2. I am sure it can go well above 1.2.
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even at 1.5ghz it still would awesome
this makes me sad, haha.
evo 4g, i can get mine to 1.2ghz, above that it random reboots on me.
friends shift 4g that is stock at 800mhz, he has had it OC'd to 1.8ghz.
I read the verizon THunderbolt has been stable at 2ghz, comes 1ghz from HTC.
My laptop when i first bought it was a 1.6ghz single core, spent $25 on ebay and got a dual core 1.8ghz for it and it is way better now. Ofc i bought this thing almost 2 years ago.
I am gonna hate when my phone is a dual core and OC'd to 2+ghz...and i bet the GPU in the Evo3d is better than the "ATI Radeon HD3200" i have in this p.o.s. laptop.
I'll probably overclock it to 1.5ghz. Unless there's a reason HTC is under-clocking to 1.2Ghz. If it affects battery life, i probably won't do it.
I dont think the EVO 3D will need more power. It seems pretty fast already.
Its under clocked at 1.2 the processor is actually a 1.5
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Wish i could find the link but i remember reading someone that had talked to an engineer @ Qualcomm say it will OC to 2Ghz. (which sounds feasible if its a 1.5Ghz chip underclocked to 1.2Ghz). Lets hope we can do that! and that it lasts a whole day lol
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I'll probably overclock it to 1.5ghz. Unless there's a reason HTC is under-clocking to 1.2Ghz. If it affects battery life, i probably won't do it.
I dont think the EVO 3D will need more power. It seems pretty fast already.
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I'm sure there will be a Kernel to increase battery life...
How high do you think we can clock the processors on the EVO 3D? I recall they are 1.5 ghz chips underclocked to conserve battery life. Think these can hit that magical 2.0? Or at least 1.8?
I could see maybe 1.6 but honestly nothing over 1.4ghz is worth it... (batter>speed)
And nothing currently requires anything over 1.2ghz or 1.5ghz for that matter, other than peoples e-penis.
Id like to see a 1.4ghz uv kernel over 1.8ghz 1 hour battery killer but I will use and test all of them
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nate420 said:
I could see maybe 1.6 but honestly nothing over 1.4ghz is worth it... (batter>speed)
And nothing currently requires anything over 1.2ghz or 1.5ghz for that matter, other than peoples e-penis.
Id like to see a 1.4ghz uv kernel over 1.8ghz 1 hour battery killer but I will use and test all of them
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Well that's your opinion. I highly doubt a overclocking the processor to 1.8 would bring the phone down to one hour of battery life. It's not like it would be constantly running at that speed. I would prefer speed over battery life as I charge my phone every night and have plenty left over even overclocked to almost 1.3 on my EVO.
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I could see maybe 1.6 but honestly nothing over 1.4ghz is worth it... (batter>speed)
And nothing currently requires anything over 1.2ghz or 1.5ghz for that matter, other than peoples e-penis.
Id like to see a 1.4ghz uv kernel over 1.8ghz 1 hour battery killer but I will use and test all of them
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I think this is less about practicality and more about pushing our phone to the limits. overclocking on an already fast enough processor on a device which runs for the most part on battery, is not needed. however it is fun and nice to see the benchmarks soar.
I say 1.8ghz-2ghz
If they're anything like the EVO 4G, then it wont be a very high overclock
But assuming all are capable of 1.5 GHz, then it would be at least a 400-450 MHz overclock!
freeza said:
If they're anything like the EVO 4G, then it wont be a very high overclock
But assuming all are capable of 1.5 GHz, then it would be at least a 400-450 MHz overclock!
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My g2x was overclocked to 1.6ghz and its only a 1ghz dual core phone...
Id say we could see maybe 1.8ghz if this phone is really 1.5 dropped down to 1.2
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fmedina2 said:
Well that's your opinion. I highly doubt a overclocking the processor to 1.8 would bring the phone down to one hour of battery life. It's not like it would be constantly running at that speed. I would prefer speed over battery life as I charge my phone every night and have plenty left over even overclocked to almost 1.3 on my EVO.
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Again for e-penis and bragging rights on benchmarks nothing more...
As for saying 1.8 oc would kill it in a hour I was joking...
And I bet dollars to donuts you don't see a change in "speed" past 1.6ghz other than a hot battery.
Ginger bread can't fully optimize dual cores it does the job but untill a new os is out
no point ruining a battery for "speed" you won't see
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While performance is key, I'd say this phone is well above the bar of expectations for most Android Apps at the current time. I'm more interested in squeezing the most battery life I possibly can via Underclocking. It will be nice to see how far this can be pushed with Two Cores to spread the workload across.
nate420 said:
I could see maybe 1.6 but honestly nothing over 1.4ghz is worth it... (batter>speed)
And nothing currently requires anything over 1.2ghz or 1.5ghz for that matter, other than peoples e-penis.
Id like to see a 1.4ghz uv kernel over 1.8ghz 1 hour battery killer but I will use and test all of them
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btw the way i have the bigest e penis lol it is googolplex inchs
why are people saying such low numbers the second gen snapdragons can go to what 1.9? if ours is 1.5 stock dropped down to 1.2 then i think we can at least hit 2
I'd bet that the chips in these phones will be those that were unstable at 1.5 ghz. That's how chip makers do these things. They make them all the same, then those with unstable silicon are sold as a lower clock speed. Not sure I'd expect over 1.5 and that might require higher voltage. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see I guess.
hdad2 said:
I'd bet that the chips in these phones will be those that were unstable at 1.5 ghz. That's how chip makers do these things. They make them all the same, then those with unstable silicon are sold as a lower clock speed. Not sure I'd expect over 1.5 and that might require higher voltage. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see I guess.
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Wrong, to lazy to explain for now.
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Wrong.....
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toxicfumes22 said:
Wrong, to lazy to explain for now.
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OK, a little less lazy right now. But simply the way that manufactures choose the speeds for processors is actually simple. In the case of the 3D it IS underclocked. The processor is an asynchronous dual core with clock speeds initially set at 1.5 by Qualcom and is used in Qualcom's phone they produce for developers. It is underclocked by HTC because of battery problems listed from the 4G and the unnecessary need of 1.5GHz in a F*ing phone. Manufactures for the most part do not underclock the CPU. The reason it is set at the level it is, is because it is most stable, efficient and meets the heat extraction needs (People forget CPUs are just circuits and produce heat with more voltage). OK lets back this up shall we. OK.
That is why I'm too lazy to post thing, I have to search up a link cause most of this is my general knowledge. Anyways, the QSD8650 found in the EVO 4G is clocked at 1GHz and has been posted to a stable 1.3GHz I believe by a recent post. Now the MSM8660 is posted to be a 1.5GHz CPU, so its overclocking potential is more near 2GHz but I would suspect it to get a little warm(sweaty palms anyone?) and I wouldn't know how stable it would be either (I don't know phones the best). Why is it underclocked? Because people kept *****ing at how much battery the EVO used and as technology improves so does the efficiency of CPUs so they go with the most recent and just underclock it. I've seen a comparison graph somewhere by Qualcom but I spent about 10minutes looking for it and couldn't find it but it was really nifty. If someone finds it plz post it, it shows the energy vs Clock speed and it is very cool.
Anyways, to respond to whoever said that the 1.5GHz is the max and that all manufacturers underclock the CPU based upon the silicon is WRONG, wrong WrOnG and Rong/wong (Im sorry I dont remember the exact response). Anyways, its the heat extraction and the silicon hurts it because it doesn't let all the heat through, which is one of the reason your PS3 may have yellow lighted on you(Yes its because of the CPU disconnecting from the Motherboard, but why do you think this extra heat was generated?).
Sorry this is so long and I got distracted a few times while writing it so it I messed up or something doesn't make sense I apologize but being lazy is really a pain in the ass.
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I'd bet that the chips in these phones will be those that were unstable at 1.5 ghz. That's how chip makers do these things. They make them all the same, then those with unstable silicon are sold as a lower clock speed. Not sure I'd expect over 1.5 and that might require higher voltage. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see I guess.
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That would be the case if this wasn't an MSM 8660. You're thinking like when AMD makes chips for the HD 6970 and some are found not to be stable at 880 mhz so they bin it to use in the HD 6950 which runs at 800 mhz. These are actually sold as two separate products. In the case of the processor in the Evo it's an MSM 8660 which is sold by qualcomm to be run at speeds as high as 1.5 ghz. If they wanted to sell chips binned for lower speeds they'd have to sell it as a different model since it wouldn't be capable of the 1.5hz.
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why are people saying such low numbers the second gen snapdragons can go to what 1.9? if ours is 1.5 stock dropped down to 1.2 then i think we can at least hit 2
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1.9?
No sir it was 1.19stable...
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That would be the case if this wasn't an MSM 8660. You're thinking like when AMD makes chips for the HD 6970 and some are found not to be stable at 880 mhz so they bin it to use in the HD 6950 which runs at 800 mhz. These are actually sold as two separate products. In the case of the processor in the Evo it's an MSM 8660 which is sold by qualcomm to be run at speeds as high as 1.5 ghz. If they wanted to sell chips binned for lower speeds they'd have to sell it as a different model since it wouldn't be capable of the 1.5hz.
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Can you explain this to me please.
toxic and donatom,
Your explanations make perfect sense. So I hope to be wrong. Does qualcomm sell a processor with that same architecture and a lower clock advertised?
Just seems like they're not gonna throw them away if they are stable and 1.2 or 1.4 but less stable at 1.5+. The 3vo seems like a good way for them to unload those processors.
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toxic and donatom,
Your explanations make perfect sense. So I hope to be wrong. Does qualcomm sell a processor with that same architecture and a lower clock advertised?
Just seems like they're not gonna throw them away if they are stable and 1.2 or 1.4 but less stable at 1.5+. The 3vo seems like a good way for them to unload those processors.
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To my knowledge, if this happens it gets recycled. But.....if this happens a lot then they need to change their manufacturing process or that the technology isn't there yet. Like now we have the technology to do 64GB MicroSD, but why do it because most devices can only do 32GB. For the companies that do sell them, well....I don't have good words for them, I also don't know of this happening. I can understand that it could be useful for donations to universities or others that could use them for damn near free prices, but not resold even under a different name.
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Can you explain this to me please.
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Well in the case of AMD with many of their chip lines they produce a higher end chip. The ones that don't fully pass the tests at the higher speed get sold as a different model with a lower clock and voltage.
I have the most experience with the HD 6970 and 6950. They both use the same GPU, but the ones in the 6950 didn't pass AMD's tests at higher speeds so they are set at a lower clock and voltage than the 6970 (they also have some shaders disbaled). They are sold as two different models even though they were made the exact same way with the same silicone. This is not new chip manufacturers have been doing this for a while.
Think of it this way I make 100k chips out of those 100k I'm going to have a percentage that can't perform at their top performance, so instead of throwing them away I make a different model and underclock it and still make money on the chips that didn't pass at the higher speed. Now sometimes I will sell more of the lower end model so I actually have to take some chips that probably would have passed as the higher end model and sell them at the lower end. In this case the user gets lucky and can unlock their chip to the performance of the higher priced model.
EDIT: What HTC is doing here is buying a 1.5ghz chip but purposely underclocking it to save battery, since they figured most users wouldn't see the .3 ghz difference but would see the difference in battery life. Again in video cards you see this but usually the other way around. A manufacturer such as Asus, gigabyte, whomever takes the best of their chips they bought and overclocks them because again some were made even better than the standards set by AMD or Nvidia.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that ALL these chips should do 1.5 ghz stable without question, unless there isn't enough space inside for the cooling requirements at 1.5ghz (which I doubt), and most should easily go above 1.6.
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To my knowledge, if this happens it gets recycled. But.....if this happens a lot then they need to change their manufacturing process or that the technology isn't there yet. Like now we have the technology to do 64GB MicroSD, but why do it because most devices can only do 32GB. For the companies that do sell them, well....I don't have good words for them, I also don't know of this happening. I can understand that it could be useful for donations to universities or others that could use them for damn near free prices, but not resold even under a different name.
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This is something that happens mostly in higher end processors because their tolerances at those speeds are less forgiving. No manufacturing process is perfect, you're going to have some that won't perform at those very high speeds, and recycling would cost more to the company and environment then simply selling them at lower speeds. These chips are not bad, and not defective, just found to not be stable at those highest speeds, but are perfectly fine at the speeds they are being sold at, so why throw them away. If they don't meet the standards at the lower speed then yes they would be recycled.
Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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I haven' used Setcpu in a while but I believe it's got a feature to stress test the settings to see if it can handle it. Generally the worst that happens is it'll crash. So long as it doesn't get hot. Heat=death for electronics :')
I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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This is true. I see no difference between 1.2 & 1.5ghz. But that doesn't keep me from running it at 1.5 when I'm playing a game anyway :'D
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GMoneyDTP said:
Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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Well it's not safe, that I can say. Nothing is safe when you don't know what other things are changing with the clock rate. But still you could do that. You just have to make sure that the temperature is within limit, it will be definitely high, but make sure it's not that high.
And upping the clock rate to 1.5 GHz won't drain any extra battery than 1.2 GHz.
Regards.
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Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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I tried the overclocking and each phone is different, increase then test, there are many benchmarking apps out there, I was stable at 1.4, my kernel does not include 1.5 GHz, and irregardless of what people may say, running the phone at higher clock speeds consistently DOES drain the battery more than 1.2GHz, unless you have found a way to manipulate the laws of physics. I don't see how one can fathom the thought that you can get a faster CPU at absolutely no cost.
Many people think when the CPU running faster means you complete tasks faster, hence 1.5 would complete a task faster than 1.2 and hence save battery, but I believe we use this phone as more than a calculator, so when you are performing a task that causes the CPU to run at 1.5 for a period of time e.g playing a game, browsing or whatever you do with your phone, then the CPU has to draw more power to keep the frequency at 1.5 as compared to the CPU running at 1.2
All in all, I dialed back because I was doing fine without it and I did not need it, other people may need it, and I wasn't gaining anything. to answer your question directly, it all depends on what you do with your phone, I'm not a huge gamer or anything and the 1.2GHz has proven to be more than enough for me to have a very pleasant experience using this device
Using it occasionally is safe, unless you stress your mobile at 1.5+ ghz for more than an hour or so.
The cpu governor will only make use of higher frequencies when there is a need, so mostly you will see your mobile idling at 200 mhz.
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Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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Not necessarily a lot worse. It depends on how you are using your phone, and what is causing it to run fast. If overclocking allows the phone to spend longer in deep sleep state, your battery will win. If its games, and by OC you achieve a higher frame rate, then the phone is doing more work, and this will be reflected in the battery life going down.
Most of the time, screen on is going to dominate. If you are a low screen-on user, I guess there is more chance for a higher max_cpu to be beneficial (it won't be used unless there is a task that requires it). More accurately, it helps some of the time, so the net result is not always obvious to predict.
How about undervolting?
Any danger in doing so- other than crashing when voltage is too low?
Before over clocking it might be worth downloading cpuspy from the market and seeing what time you spend in each speed.
Chances are most of the time you won't even hit 1.2 so might not have anything to gain by over clocking.
Then again I dont know how you use your device but I do know I was surprised when I found out.
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I've played with the SuperSonic version of this phone (which has a 1.5Ghz core) and the results from photos/video are much better, I'm pretty sure the cameras are exactly the same but the SuperSonic benefits from the higher CPU.
I think it would be cool if somebody could write an app that states
IF user opens Camera application voltage + clock speed is increased to allow stable 1.5GHz speed
WHEN user closes camera application overclock turns off.
Thoughts?
You have a smartphone! Not a pc!
I didnt see any advantage if you oc to 1.5
Btw In normal use your phone keep in 200mhz not 1.2.
I think i only hit 1.2 two or 3 times for 3 seconds in a full battery cycle.
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oc dosnt make sense ,there no noticeable diff,an yes very few times i hit 1.2 mostly its on 800 or few times on 1000....using a device with 1.5ghz proccesor an oc a device to 1.5 ghz which has 1ghz processor is very diff in nature....
Fair enough.
Well I wouldn't mind an app that mazes out at 1.2GHz with camera app open, as it can lag when shooting HD.
oc upto 1.4 ghz is fair enough, anything more than that is a waste. though you cant find any visible difference between 1,1.2 and 1.4 it does helps in maintaining smoothness on some situations.
yes very true i had oc my sgs1 at 1.2ghz and sgs2 at 1.4ghz but frankly i dint see the diff so after few days use i turnd to orignal settings....but many use oc an phone works fine,but depends on personel use......an yes as bala_gammer says its fine on 1.4ghz......cheeeerz
is overclocking galaxy s2 to 1.3gh safe
HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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hey mate
u really think 100mhz would make that much change? its safe btw... seen people running s2 at clock speed higher than 1.3ghz
Plz help @..Longtime hd gaming(gta sa,nfs mw , asphalt,modern combat...) using 1.4 ghz is safe?
I also noted that gameloft games are makes more over heat for phone..
Which is the best and safe voltage level for 1.4 ghz 1250mv or 1275mv or 1300mv
Iam using siyah v6.0b5 kernel with wizzedkat 3.1..
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Well u do not see much difference on daily usage due to oc..but it does give a smoother experience while playing high quality games
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Hi guys! I was just checking out this thread in the Bionic section and they have an overclock without that many prerequisites. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439013All we need is a rom with init.D support and tekahuna's "symsearch.ko" and "opptimizer.ko" modules. DroidTh3ory already has init.D support in this Bionic rom so if we could get that in our roms and just find a way to apply tekahuna's modules, our device may be able to get an overclock. Let me know what you guys think. I'm not sure if this is possible but I just want to try and help the Razr XDA community. Sorry if this is arbitrary and completely unapplicable to our device.
Intriguing - conveniently, there's a thread on enabling init.d support that just popped up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444545
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Works on the atrix2
From what I read in original thread on rootzwiki Razr can gain only 50MHz addition with this.
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From what I read in original thread on rootzwiki Razr can gain only 50MHz addition with this.
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Ha, funny. Given the RAZR is factory overclocked to 1.2ghz, I suppose it's to be expected. I've underclocked mine to the 1ghz the chip is rated for to save juice anyway.
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razr is not overclocked versus the other omap4430 1.0Ghz devices. Parts are tested in the fab, and the ones that can do 1.2g without crash andd without heating a lot are selled to be 1.2-compatible. Other are only 1.0G approved.
It means also that overclocking a 1.0 to 1.2 may cause crash and excessive heat.
For the 1.2G parts of the razr, don't expect great overclock. the omap is more enclosed than in bionic and is already reaching the thermal policy barriere that underclock it when intensive use. If you clock the opp-max over this frequency, you will hit the barrier faster and then finish by using lower opps most of time...
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razr is not overclocked versus the other omap4430 1.0Ghz devices. Parts are tested in the fab, and the ones that can do 1.2g without crash andd without heating a lot are selled to be 1.2-compatible. Other are only 1.0G approved.
It means also that overclocking a 1.0 to 1.2 may cause crash and excessive heat.
For the 1.2G parts of the razr, don't expect great overclock. the omap is more enclosed than in bionic and is already reaching the thermal policy barriere that underclock it when intensive use. If you clock the opp-max over this frequency, you will hit the barrier faster and then finish by using lower opps most of time...
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Interesting, so not all 4430s are born equal? Is there an actual variant thereof rated at 1.2, or do they actually test every single chip individually? I wasn't implying it's unstable at 1.2ghz, and hardware design does of course come into it as you've said, but as far as I'm aware it's the exact same chip that TI rated at 1.0.
Perhaps 'clocked higher than the chip has been generally rated for by its manufacturer' is a more accurate description than 'factory overclocked'?
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hmmm.. this is all very interesting. I feel like the OMAP 4430 in the Razr should be at more capable than 1.2ghz. My OG Droid ran stable at 1.275ghz and it had a 3430 which was built on the 65nm chip process vs the 45 in the Razr. I must say 1.25gz as a max is quite underwhelming. I was hoping this bad boy would at least be capable of 1.5ghz.
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hmmm.. this is all very interesting. I feel like the OMAP 4430 in the Razr should be at more capable than 1.2ghz. My OG Droid ran stable at 1.275ghz and it had a 3430 which was built on the 65nm chip process vs the 45 in the Razr. I must say 1.25gz as a max is quite underwhelming. I was hoping this bad boy would at least be capable of 1.5ghz.
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I feel the same, but reality is cruel
I read some time ago on a tech website that the 4460 (1.5) and the 4430 were made from the exact same materials. The only difference is that the ones that hit a very high threshold at 1.5 were stamped 1.5. 4460's. It's not that the 4430's couldn't do 1.5ghz , most could. Just that they couldn't run the benchmark all the way to the end the amount of times needed to qualify. Odds are that any 4430 could do 1.5ghz and probably stable. We will never stress it out the way these benchmarks do.
Does anybody know if this hack could actually work and allow us to overclock our device. I think we can worry about how far we can overclock after we get an actual overclock lol. Would anyone be able to rewrite the "symsearch.ko" and "opptimizer.ko" modules for our device so we can get an overclock on our device?
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Does anybody know if this hack could actually work and allow us to overclock our device. I think we can worry about how far we can overclock after we get an actual overclock lol. Would anyone be able to rewrite the "symsearch.ko" and "opptimizer.ko" modules for our device so we can get an overclock on our device?
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No rewriting necessary. It was developed on a RAZR. Available in the download section of the OPPtimizer site. 0.1 modules only adjust top frequency. 0.2 modules adjust top frequency and voltage. As stated on the homepage, symsearch.ko is the creation of Skrilax_CZ. In case you don't know who that is, he's the guy who got 2nd-init functioning for all of us.
http://opptimizer.googlecode.com
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razr is not overclocked versus the other omap4430 1.0Ghz devices. Parts are tested in the fab, and the ones that can do 1.2g without crash andd without heating a lot are selled to be 1.2-compatible. Other are only 1.0G approved.
It means also that overclocking a 1.0 to 1.2 may cause crash and excessive heat.
For the 1.2G parts of the razr, don't expect great overclock. the omap is more enclosed than in bionic and is already reaching the thermal policy barriere that underclock it when intensive use. If you clock the opp-max over this frequency, you will hit the barrier faster and then finish by using lower opps most of time...
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Very true, and something to consider the when overclocking OMAP4 devices. They don't clock as high as some would think. Although, I'm not so sure that the lag that most people are describing is the thermal policy kicking in. I've noticed that this lag can be cleared up with additional voltage, and not exhibit the behavior of getting clamped down on by the thermal policy. For example, 1250MHz on my Droid RAZR at stock 1.375V, is flaky, bump the nominal voltage to 1.388V, and it holds, and up to 1280MHz without the lagging condition.
You appear to be well informed on this subject. Good points you raise!
Lol. I'm still trying to understand the fact that we had a overclock this entire time. I never found one on the forums but I guess we had the tools available all this time. I honestly didn't know we had one.
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Lol. I'm still trying to understand the fact that we had a overclock this entire time. I never found one on the forums but I guess we had the tools available all this time. I honestly didn't know we had one.
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The kernel modules were only recently release. Some early testing was done in the LG Thrill community, as that was my original test device. Development was stalled a little by issues which I now realize were with the LG Thrill's kernel itself, rather than what I was doing. Got a RAZR on opening day and was able to come up with some code I feel comfortable releasing. It's only been available to the public for about a week now. I think some RAZR's will hit low 1300's... Don't know about much more.
Does this work? Is there a script for it? I have init.d support on stock from a bionic init.d cwr zip from droidrazr.com that works. What would a script look like to change voltages/ect?
Nevermind i see...its in the download section on link.
How do you run it or setup?
frostincredible on RootzWiki has created some flashable zip for Bionic, but they only work for my 0.1 modules that only support frequency manipulation. I have 0.2 modules that control voltage as well for Droid 3. You can open up his zip file and get an idea how to get things going with init.d... You can actually use his script, and just modify the echo line to say "echo 1122000000 1388000 > /proc/opptimizer", to send a voltage value, along with frequency.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14698-in...or-tekahunas-omap4-overclock-modules-1-10-12/
Page 2/3/4 on the official thread also has some info on init.d scripts for this.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14511-op...ng-kernel-modulesofficial-thread/page__st__20
CDjones over on DroidForums.net also started a good thread with some useful information:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...imental-voltage-control-support-tekahuna.html
Not the same device, but same idea.
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I read some time ago on a tech website that the 4460 (1.5) and the 4430 were made from the exact same materials. The only difference is that the ones that hit a very high threshold at 1.5 were stamped 1.5. 4460's. It's not that the 4430's couldn't do 1.5ghz , most could. Just that they couldn't run the benchmark all the way to the end the amount of times needed to qualify. Odds are that any 4430 could do 1.5ghz and probably stable. We will never stress it out the way these benchmarks do.
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This is not true. OMAP4460 and OMAP4430 are different chips. E.G. there are [email protected] and [email protected] the fact that the 2 products exists should be enough to say there are different.
I reckon they are not drastically different, most of the things are common.
So has anyone gained any noticable performance improvements with this? Also so it can 0nly be OC'd to 50mz more so 1.25ghz is the max? At this point is this mod developed enough for the razr for it to be a usable worth while tweak? Not dogging any devs just want to see if its worth it yet to start messing with this...
Also in the download section there is now this "MO_simple_spyder_1.5-beta-01.zip Milestone Overclock ported to Motorola Droid RAZR"
Whats that?
It depends on your particular processor, because every one is little bit different. I was able to run mine at 1300 MHz quite stable with stock voltage. But I don't see any need for more CPU power now, maybe someday
More interesting is undervolting to achieve longer battery life, which can be done with OPPtimizer too.
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It depends on your particular processor, because every one is little bit different. I was able to run mine at 1300 MHz quite stable with stock voltage. But I don't see any need for more CPU power now, maybe someday
More interesting is undervolting to achieve longer battery life, which can be done with OPPtimizer too.
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Has anyone had any good success with undervolting and battery life?
after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.6ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
Depends on the phone. Mine can't run above 1.4ghz stable (but my GPU can overclock easily).
^What he said. Try it for a while, but if you get reboots or freezes, pull it back to 1.4 or 1.2.
if it runs stable then you can no problem
Watch your temp. Might be a phone but it's the same as a computer. That reno gets to high, and you're looking at overheating and possibly causing corrupted files from shut downs or worse, hardware damage.
Correct me of I'm wrong.
Clay
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after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.6ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
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Just make sure you don't check "Set at boot" until you're sure you can set it at 1.6 with out reboots and crashes...... GL
Why 1.6ghz all the time? 1.4ghz uses MUCH less power (meaning less heat as well) and is 99% as smooth.
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Why 1.6ghz all the time? 1.4ghz uses MUCH less power (meaning less heat as well) and is 99% as smooth.
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Very good point....
I underclock to 800 . And phone is just as snappy. Why would ya wanna use 1.6 out of curiosity ?
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Honestly the only reason someone would overclock to 1.6 GHz would be for bench marking, which i find useless. My processor is usually clocked to 800 MHz and i can play games like N.O.V.A. 3 with only slight lags here and there.
I do something similar to a few people here. I keep it at 800 most of the time and bump it up to 1000 when I'm playing certain games. Then back to 800 when I'm done. Responsive enough for whatever I have to do and doesn't overheat.
Wow OP
What a question OP.
I can't believe no one called you out yet.. I will be the first
If you want to kill your phone hardware then keep it at 1600! (which is overclocked too you dummie)
USE SetCPU so that your phone can
1. remain cool when high CPU cycles are needed
2. save battery by making profiles especially for when your phone screen is off
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ok theres good guides out there. just google it