I've got this problem with my tab (quick battery drainage). Symptoms would be your 100% charged tab would go down to 0% in unusual shorter time ( like 2-4 hours). You put it on charger and tab would be charged back to 100% again in substantial short time like 2-3 hours instead of 6-7 hours.
Well, after looking at this issue I think I have come up with solution.
At least, my tab looks like it's back on track... though, to say for sure I would need another couple days of testing.
The problem is not runaway wild application on a background but battery control circuit. This chip reports to OS much smaller battery capacity as it is for some reason. I will not go into details but here is what you need to try:
Flash stock kernel (may be custom kernel is not the reason for bad chip calibration and I'm 90% positive but just to be on safe side). You don't need to do factory wipe in OEM recovery for our purpose.
You also don't need to wipe batterystats.bin or use "Battery Calibration" apps from market (which does exactly the same wipe just in more end user friendly way). This wipe serves no other purpose then refreshing your usage statistics.
You also don't need to drain your battery all way down... nice, this way you don't have to wait for too long.
Well, here we go:
charge tab somewhere in between 80 and 100%.
edit: remove charger
shutdown tab (not put in hibernate/sleep) for 1 hour.
edit: turn tab on and run it for 30-40 min. or whatever it takes to drop charge to 40-50%.
shutdown tab again for 5 hours (overnight).
turn tab again and check... you should be fine now, charge it again 100% and use as usual.
That should do correct chip calibration.
PS: the reason why this chip calibration went bad at the first still remains open.
EDIT: just want to give a shortcut for those who does not feel like reading through the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16771651&postcount=41
Edit: here is calibration procedure which was modified down this thread ...
1. in CWM/recovery let it sit till battery in terminal will show less then 3700. The less you can get it the better. 3400 is probably absolute minimum.
2. shut down tab and let it sit for 1 hour.
3. plug it to charger and charge it for 5 hours.
4. disconnected charger and let it sit for 1 hour.
5. boot up your tab and test it, it your battery still not calibrated you can flash back your backup and repeat calibration procedure.
Edit: if you physically disconnect battery (you have to disassemble tablet) and keep it for couple min. that would trigger FG chip to start with default SOC curve.
Any follow up? Did this fix work for you since yesterday or anyone else?
yup, this is it...
This is how properly calibrate sg tab's batteries. There are some variations to the process but essentially battery will be calibrated in two measurements which stand apart by minimum 40% when battery is at rest on time intervals 1 and 5 hours.
No need to do factory reset, wipe batterystats, use battery calibrator apps from market or dance around with rain stick... all this will give same result as woodoo magic... though if by some reason battery calibration conditions are met then one may claim a miracle.
*sigh of relief* looks like this worked. More people that have this issue should now about this. Thank you for the fix.
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Is this the same as the Sleep on Death (SOD) syndrome? that while charging it dies overnight and then you have to long press the power button and/or charge it to get it back?
Worked for me so far all good thanks
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Thanks will try this after flashing many custom roms I've been suffering from fast drainage which is not normal from when I had it on stock.
hyann said:
Is this the same as the Sleep on Death (SOD) syndrome? that while charging it dies overnight and then you have to long press the power button and/or charge it to get it back?
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How long your tab usually works on one charge? if 8 and more hours - then no, I would think that there is a bug in Android charger control.
Vlad_z said:
yup, this is it...
This is how properly calibrate sg tab's batteries. There are some variations to the process but essentially battery will be calibrated in two measurements which stand apart by minimum 40% when battery is at rest on time intervals 1 and 5 hours.
No need to do factory reset, wipe batterystats, use battery calibrator apps from market or dance around with rain stick... all this will give same result as woodoo magic... though if by some reason battery calibration conditions are met then one may claim a miracle.
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May I ask what do you mean by rest time intervals of 1 and 5 hours?
Does it mean that the calibration will only take place when the tab is off for 1 hour, then switch on and used till battery depleted by a further 40% minimum and the switch off for another 5 hour. Correct?
Also , is this 40% refer to value before or after calibration? I asked this because when I restart my tab the value changed (ex: 36% before restart to 53% after restart)
wlighter said:
May I ask what do you mean by rest time intervals of 1 and 5 hours?
Does it mean that the calibration will only take place when the tab is off for 1 hour, then switch on and used till battery depleted by a further 40% minimum and the switch off for another 5 hour. Correct?
Also , is this 40% refer to value before or after calibration? I asked this because when I restart my tab the value changed (ex: 36% before restart to 53% after restart)
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Yes that's correct.
Fuel gauge chip will take 1 measurement of open circuit voltage and internal resistance only when battery is at rest (no charge/discharge) for at least 40min. - so I say 1 hour just to be sure...
Consecutive measurements, from which gauge chip can derive capacity of the battery have to be at least 40% and 5 hours apart.
Technically speaking, that 40% difference can be in either directions. Say you have 40% as of now, leave it in rest for 1 hour, then charge it to 100% and leave it at rest for 5 hours and you will have same result.
Condition "at rest" means voltage change less then 4mV (or mkV) per sec. - I don't remember.
When tablet is in sleep some background processes may awake tablet briefly and reset the 1 hour counter - so to make it work for sure, simply do shutdown.
if you want additional reading on my findings then look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16615800&postcount=517
I tried this method...
1.Charged tab t0 80%, then shut down (removed charger) for 1 hour.
2.Turned on tab and played games for about 45min till battery was 49%.
3.Turned off tab and let sleep for 5 hours (charger still removed).
4.Turned tab back on and battery reads 79%, used for about 20min and battery reads 68%... Seems battery drain is still happening?
Right now i'm charging the tablet back upto 100% then perhaps try this method again... Did I do something wrong?
jzen said:
I tried this method...
1.Charged tab t0 80%, then shut down (removed charger) for 1 hour.
2.Turned on tab and played games for about 45min till battery was 49%.
3.Turned off tab and let sleep for 5 hours (charger still removed).
4.Turned tab back on and battery reads 79%, used for about 20min and battery reads 68%... Seems battery drain is still happening?
Right now i'm charging the tablet back upto 100% then perhaps try this method again... Did I do something wrong?
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same problem im facing. This is why im wondering is the 40% value of before or after calibration. Because although it might drop 40% before calibration is done, the real drop value might be less then that. Which means to the chip it might just see a drop of example 20% of real drop and hence it didn't perform the calibration because conditions of 40% is nt met.
I did forget to flash back to the stock kernel (using pershoot's).
I just flashed to doc's slim 6.5 which has a modified stock kernel (couldnt find just the stock kernel and my internet is too slow to download the entire stock rom.). Going to try this method again but starting at 40%
1.Battery at 40%, shutdown tablet for 1 hour.
2.Charge tablet to 100% (while shutdown)
3.Leave tablet shutdown for 5 hours
4.Pray to droid gods, find my rain stick and begin dark resurrection ritual while watching true blood.
My only question now is... Should I turn the tablet back on after the 1 hour shutdown? Or should I leave it shutdown and just plug in charger till its 100% charged, then let it stay shutdown for 5 hours?
This is what worked for me:
1. Charged tab to 100% removed from charger.
2. Power down for 1 hour.
3. Power on (tab at 96%)
4. Drain to 46%
5. Power off for 5 hours
When I powered the tab back on after the 5 hours, i used it for a while and rebooted and the battery reading stayed the same which it wasn't doing before the calibration. It has been draining and charging at a normal pace since then and has remained the same after reboots and ROM flashes since the calibration.
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This is what worked for me:
1. Charged tab to 100% removed from charger.
2. Power down for 1 hour.
3. Power on (tab at 96%)
4. Drain to 46%
5. Power off for 5 hours
When I powered the tab back on after the 5 hours, i used it for a while and rebooted and the battery reading stayed the same which it wasn't doing before the calibration. It has been draining and charging at a normal pace since then and has remained the same after reboots and ROM flashes since the calibration.
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I'm going to go ahead and try this method right now! But for me... sometimes my battery will not charge unless the unit is shutdown (ever since battery issues started.). I hope this time it will charge while its on.
Also the instructions say to flash the stock kernel before trying this method... Did you do this? And were you able to flash back to pershoot's without issue?
*Update:
It doesn't look like its charging, (system on). Should I just shutdown and charge it to 100%? Then continue with said method? Anyone know if this method will work while tablet is shutdown through the entire process?
jzen said:
I'm going to go ahead and try this method right now! But for me... sometimes my battery will not charge unless the unit is shutdown (ever since battery issues started.). I hope this time it will charge while its on.
Also the instructions say to flash the stock kernel before trying this method... Did you do this? And were you able to flash back to pershoot's without issue?
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My tab was charging while on, sometimes it wouldn't show it till after a reboot. I did mine from stock 3.1. (A backup I made before I took the TW OTA) I have not re-flashed pershoot's kernel and probably wont till the bug is worked out. I did however flash the deodexed stock TW and flashed a theme and have had no issues.
Edit: if its not chargin while on, i would charge it all the way while off then turn it on so it can read the battery then start the 1 hour power down.
Correction guys...
I was sure that our p7510 model was using TI bq20z75 fuel gauge chip but with new information looks like it's Maxim 17042 chip... It's embarrassing but I have to stay corrected. TI chip would calibrate itself in procedure outlined above as for Maxim - I don't know yet. I'm looking at it.
These are good and bad news. Good one - with this new fact, it's very possible that the reason of chip's SOC counter corruption is in software. Driver for Maxim is pretty messy and complex (because it's messy). In contrast driver for TI is simple and straight forward (because TI chip is smart). Software can be fixed but problem in hardware design not so easy.
Well, I will report back when I find something.
So, will FillTheVoid 's method work with my GT-p7510? :x
Vlad_z said:
Correction guys...
I was sure that our p7510 model was using TI bq20z75 fuel gauge chip but with new information looks like it's Maxim 17042 chip... It's embarrassing but I have to stay corrected. TI chip would calibrate itself in procedure outlined above as for Maxim - I don't know yet. I'm looking at it.
These are good and bad news. Good one - with this new fact, it's very possible that the reason of chip's SOC counter corruption is in software. Driver for Maxim is pretty messy and complex (because it's messy). In contrast driver for TI is simple and straight forward (because TI chip is smart). Software can be fixed but problem in hardware design not so easy.
Well, I will report back when I find something.
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A lot of this is way over my head, but my battery calibration seems to be accurate, although I can't be absolutely sure because I have no stats from the previous calibration to compare it to. I do know for sure that after this process the bug of it draining then after reboot going back to what it should be is gone.
so i guess we need to flash back the stock ROM w/o TW for this procedure to work? I was trying the same steps with StarBurst + pershoot kernel it seem that it doesn't work. Anyone manage to calibrate with pershoot kernel?
soo. I saw a thread about someone's note not going into deep sleep..Im kinda a nub. Here so i dl.ed cpuspy and have been tracking myown sleep mode. . Now there is talk of shorter wires or something usb and a charger ended in u gotta sotter something. . I know there's a place for this but i only have my note n the search field doesn't work with the notes stock web browser so i make a new one. ... Only use stock charger. Only stock errr thang 80 % 3530 cpu speed deep sleep like 20% ?.... Thanks Ann not a man
Why wont u sleep phone
OK here is a perfect example some one save me is it broke... Do I need n. Update?..... Last night killed bat. Turned it on went rite to task manager, killed. Everything then went to sleep....... My phone didn't???? Why should I be worried
This has to not be ok
35 min on 89 % batt yea screens been on n. I made a short 6 min call but ten % in 30 min on a full charge someone save me
I did have background data on.... Am I retarded
When mine won't go into deep sleep I've found it drains about 3% per hour (with it sitting idle in my pocket), but it does much better when it does sleep. On another thread someone mentioned a work-around of turning the screen ON before unplugging it to prevent the non-sleep.
Gotta link.. I have no comp
What works for me is shutting down your Note right after unplugging it from the charger. A reboot seems to enable my Note to enter deep sleep. Good luck.
I know its bad to overcharge your phone, so when i sleep i leave my phone plugged in and charges in about 2/2.5hrs and the rest of my 5hrs more sleep its overcharging. is there a way to slow down the charge which i can calibrate to about 5hrs and change it back for daytime charging. will be Very useful to me
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Uh overcharge? Correct me if im wrong (someone who may be a little bit more informative), but our phones are made to prevent overcharge. Once it reaches its maximum, it actually starts discharging and then recharges once it drops to a certain point. There should be nothing wrong of leaving the phone plugged in when you sleep.
thats a + to hear =D i dont need to worry about it ty!
although i guess my older phones dont, running GB (galaxy ace, huawei u8220, huawei u8110)
s2 has overcharge protection ,so it should not be a problem
If you're still worried after Kaze's reply you could get yourself a timer plug from pretty much anywhere, cheap too. Set it for 3 hours and away you go.
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Hi,
The battery was showing 15% but I turned the screen off and when turning it back on, its gone back up to 20%. It did go into deep sleep.
Shall I use ExTweaks and reset the fuel gauge chip? Do I need to charge it to 100% before doing that?
it happnd to me once ,i dint consider it...jus leave it....not a issue..
SamungGalaxyS2 said:
Hi,
The battery was showing 15% but I turned the screen off and when turning it back on, its gone back up to 20%. It did go into deep sleep.
Shall I use ExTweaks and reset the fuel gauge chip? Do I need to charge it to 100% before doing that?
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This is normal for the S2, tends to happen from time to time when restarting your phone. The battery level will drop sharply from where it was before restart then climb back up to near enough where it left of, less the normal loss of power in that time.
Hi,
perhaps I understood something wrong regarding discharging cycles and voltage. Here's my problem:
When I plug out my SGS II off the charger, I will have the battery at 100% using System Panel. But after using it a little time (media scan, browsing around, updating apps) the percentage of the battery will drop (that's ok) and the voltage being reported to the System Panel App will rise. Up to >3700mV. Then the screen will flicker around a little bit and the device will shut down hard. After waiting some minutes I can restart the phone and the battery is back at almost the same state as before.
Is this a battery issue? During this whole period I do not receive a low-battery alert.
Just don't want to buy a new battery when I don't need it.
Thank you all for help.
Rgds
Christian