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I have a pretty serious problem with the battery life on my tg01! I've read the other threads here and at Modaco on the battery problems but thought I'd raise it again. I have a mugen battery now (1100) but am barely getting a couple of hours use. The battery indicator gets stuck and can go from 100% to 40 suddenly, before a few minutes later switching off. I have the original wm 6.1 rom and spb mobile shell 3.5, but the problem was there still when that was uninstalled. I can leave it charging overnight and the battery can suddenly drop and be dead in a few hours.
I'd have thought mugen battery, although only a 1100 one would have made the difference, but there's something definitely wrong because it should not be that bad!!!
What do you suggest is the best thing to do?? Will a different rom definitely solve it? or will it be down to one of the numerous programs I've installed? Or something else? A faulty phone?? It's a problem others definitely have, but is there a single working solution??
cheers!!
as far as i know battery life is a problem with all tg01's, atleast i have the same problem. the huge screen takes alot of power, add 3g or wifi and your phones going to be dead within 2 hours ! one way to overcome this is to make sure you disable data connections when not needed and reduce the backlight settings. i've been able to get over 24 hours using this method but if you want longer life the only real solution im aware of is to get the 2600 mugen battery.
EDIT: I should also mention sense and other memory hungry apps ie opera will effect battery life greatly, infact i find if i use sense my phone can be dead within 8 hours and thats with minimal useage. Constant use of opera will have the phone drained in a matter of an hour and a half.
As for a rom solving it, i dont really think its tied to a rom in anyway but you may want to try noskers rom - i find this one to be the most stable and battery life definately seems longer but i may be imagining that !
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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will try that definitely. it happens with the new mugen battery too however.
The Power Saving Settings I use are CPU medium (have tried low and high too), limit CPU speed for battery (tried on and off options) Wifi power consumption, restrict sleep mode OFF, Enable Wifi during sleep mode to OFF, backlight very low. Adjust backlight automatically OFF, 30 seconds backlight timer, 1 minute device sleep timer.
I am guessing there is a rogue program using up the CPU constantly running down the battery. Have you tried a hard reset? (probably a good idea to upgrade the ROM while your at it )
Well I've tried disabling the battery device in task manager. I'm not sure that made a difference, but at least I wasn't able to see the meter jump around..
a hard reset may well sort it, and may end up doing that. I can't see any high intensity CPU programs. anything else? will google latitude suck up the battery this quick?
One other thing which has started recently, which may persuade me to hard reset is that the blue led light flashes long after an sms has arrived. a soft reset stops this, but it will start again when another sms comes through. I've tried one such notification reset program on this forum but its made no difference.
what can be done to stop this?
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I should really have considered another post really called niggles I need to sort out on my TG01.
But how can I stop the screen going off immediately when a call comes in? I'd rather it waits say 10 secs then go off. the options in pocket toolman do not seem to work. I need the screen on a bit because often I switch to speaker straight away.
When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
Well it's bizzarre... the battery meter on the tg01 is certainly pretty dodgy.
with the flashing leds, what does anyone suggest? is there a way to change the led notifications back to default?
And regarding the screen going off immediately when a call comes in, it looks like there's no fix - similar threads still have no answer, unless anyone has more suggestions?
Update: I have done a full hard reset and a wm6.5 upgrade but the battery issues are still here. Has everyone who has had this issue taken it back to orange? It barely lasts 5 hours the battery.
Anything else at all to suggest???
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
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I stand corrected.
While this was true before and had tested a few times with two different TG01 both with Orange UK stock ROM, I have retested it now and it does not happen anymore, but I have flashed a new ROM...
Apologies for the confusion.
Hi all
I was reading this thread and preferred to add my 'query' here rather than start a new one.
My TG01 has an original WM 6.5 rom minus the SPB Shell. I haven't experiences any negative experiences yet except for the fact that I have often heard about charging the battery for 8 hours etc and charging it with phone off which I always do except on few occasions I connect with USB cable to my pc /laptop...in my case I will charge my set with the toshiba wall charger that came with the set and orange LED will illuminate a few seconds after charger is plugged-in..from there onwards the orange LED will stay illuminated for maximum 3 to 4 hours and then will turn-off. I am not having any battery problems except for the usual battery drain depending on usage and apps but nothing unusual.
I'd like to know if this is normal? Is anybody else experiencing this? Not charging more than 3 to 4 hours (orange LED turning off after 3 to 4 hours).
I would appreciate some help on this 'doubt'
Thanks
I think it's problem with driver and charging akku. I have custom rom with 6.5.5
and when i charge my akku when it is on 20 % after 20-30 min shows me that 90 % full... After 1 1/2 hour akku full charged.
Greets ALcAtRas
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
olyloh6696 said:
is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
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Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
Pere said:
Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
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thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
olyloh6696 said:
thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
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...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
Pere said:
...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
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Aha
I seriously warn you be careful of condensarion!
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By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
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I definitely think it is either level measuring circuit problem or battery driver itself - not too big power consumption.
I can repeat without any problems situation where battery level suddenly decreases about 20-30% . I noticed it only during internet operations via GSM so utilizing radio. Why , I do not know . How to fix it ? I do not know yet but it is enough to restart system so that battery indicator start to show correct value - until next failure .
I thought when bad indication occures it would be enough to stop-start baterry driver using way You described. It does not work. Stopping driver cause battery indicator shows unknown level. Starting driver not fix it. Battery indicator still shown unknown value. Only restart fix it. It should not behave this way.
Maybe problem is not in driver but top bar of today screen when battery indicator exists, should have any kind of reset too?
BTH. What software is responsible for displaying battery indicator ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
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fxdjacentyfxd
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yes! i am not the only one! recently i got a data plan for my tg01. when i use the data connection for 1-2 minutes, the battery drops 10% and it will stay at its false value until i soft reset. i thought that the problem was with the rom that i was using but i guess im wrong. what ROM are you on? it is very annoying and i have to constantly reset my phone. i have done some test, and if i keep using it, on data, the battery could conpletely go dead like when it is out of power, then when i power back in it is back to its true value. any solutions?!
The phone was freshly charged overnight. I was using the internet while listening to music through (3rd party) headset and since the 3G signal in the building was kinda ****ty I switched the phone to EDGE (GSM only). Then I quit the Settings menu and opened Firefox, tried to load a web page and at this point the phone froze. I'm not sure if I restarted it or it restarted on itself but after the boot the battery was showing about 40% less. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery, rebooted, same reading.
I used the phone for a while after that and now it's showing critically low battery and I'm wondering what should I do now?
Is it really so low on battery or the reading is wrong?
Can 40% battery disappear just like that and what could cause it?
Should I charge the battery or let it discharge until it turns off by itself?
Battery screenshot attached.
Perhaps a battery calibration issue caused due to the crash, my advice would be to drain the battery all the way down to zero and let the phone turn off, remove and reinsert battery and proceed to charge till full and then turn the phone on again. Hopefully issue should be a one-off and now resolved.
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happend to me before on my htc desire hd..battery pulled and battery stats dropped down the gutter..just let the battery die and charge fully or even just charge it up to 100% from where u at now..doesnt matter it will fix itself...
My phone was doing the same thing, it was rebooting or shutting down two or three times a day, usually a few minutes after taking off of charge.
I have sent it back for a replacement.
Do not drain the battery to zero. There is not reason to go belox 10% charge, as you could damage the battery if going to 0. These are new batteries much smarter then old ones.
You don't need to drain to zero but it won't do any harm if you do. Probably a wee softwre glitch. Wouldn't get too worried about it.
a good option is battery doctor - its a free aplication from the market...
let your battery go down to 20% and then open the app in charging mode...let it charge(dont close the app during the charging process, just keep it open)...woallla.. u have made a full cycle charge - easy as that...
I've got this problem with my tab (quick battery drainage). Symptoms would be your 100% charged tab would go down to 0% in unusual shorter time ( like 2-4 hours). You put it on charger and tab would be charged back to 100% again in substantial short time like 2-3 hours instead of 6-7 hours.
Well, after looking at this issue I think I have come up with solution.
At least, my tab looks like it's back on track... though, to say for sure I would need another couple days of testing.
The problem is not runaway wild application on a background but battery control circuit. This chip reports to OS much smaller battery capacity as it is for some reason. I will not go into details but here is what you need to try:
Flash stock kernel (may be custom kernel is not the reason for bad chip calibration and I'm 90% positive but just to be on safe side). You don't need to do factory wipe in OEM recovery for our purpose.
You also don't need to wipe batterystats.bin or use "Battery Calibration" apps from market (which does exactly the same wipe just in more end user friendly way). This wipe serves no other purpose then refreshing your usage statistics.
You also don't need to drain your battery all way down... nice, this way you don't have to wait for too long.
Well, here we go:
charge tab somewhere in between 80 and 100%.
edit: remove charger
shutdown tab (not put in hibernate/sleep) for 1 hour.
edit: turn tab on and run it for 30-40 min. or whatever it takes to drop charge to 40-50%.
shutdown tab again for 5 hours (overnight).
turn tab again and check... you should be fine now, charge it again 100% and use as usual.
That should do correct chip calibration.
PS: the reason why this chip calibration went bad at the first still remains open.
EDIT: just want to give a shortcut for those who does not feel like reading through the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16771651&postcount=41
Edit: here is calibration procedure which was modified down this thread ...
1. in CWM/recovery let it sit till battery in terminal will show less then 3700. The less you can get it the better. 3400 is probably absolute minimum.
2. shut down tab and let it sit for 1 hour.
3. plug it to charger and charge it for 5 hours.
4. disconnected charger and let it sit for 1 hour.
5. boot up your tab and test it, it your battery still not calibrated you can flash back your backup and repeat calibration procedure.
Edit: if you physically disconnect battery (you have to disassemble tablet) and keep it for couple min. that would trigger FG chip to start with default SOC curve.
Any follow up? Did this fix work for you since yesterday or anyone else?
yup, this is it...
This is how properly calibrate sg tab's batteries. There are some variations to the process but essentially battery will be calibrated in two measurements which stand apart by minimum 40% when battery is at rest on time intervals 1 and 5 hours.
No need to do factory reset, wipe batterystats, use battery calibrator apps from market or dance around with rain stick... all this will give same result as woodoo magic... though if by some reason battery calibration conditions are met then one may claim a miracle.
*sigh of relief* looks like this worked. More people that have this issue should now about this. Thank you for the fix.
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Is this the same as the Sleep on Death (SOD) syndrome? that while charging it dies overnight and then you have to long press the power button and/or charge it to get it back?
Worked for me so far all good thanks
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Thanks will try this after flashing many custom roms I've been suffering from fast drainage which is not normal from when I had it on stock.
hyann said:
Is this the same as the Sleep on Death (SOD) syndrome? that while charging it dies overnight and then you have to long press the power button and/or charge it to get it back?
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How long your tab usually works on one charge? if 8 and more hours - then no, I would think that there is a bug in Android charger control.
Vlad_z said:
yup, this is it...
This is how properly calibrate sg tab's batteries. There are some variations to the process but essentially battery will be calibrated in two measurements which stand apart by minimum 40% when battery is at rest on time intervals 1 and 5 hours.
No need to do factory reset, wipe batterystats, use battery calibrator apps from market or dance around with rain stick... all this will give same result as woodoo magic... though if by some reason battery calibration conditions are met then one may claim a miracle.
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May I ask what do you mean by rest time intervals of 1 and 5 hours?
Does it mean that the calibration will only take place when the tab is off for 1 hour, then switch on and used till battery depleted by a further 40% minimum and the switch off for another 5 hour. Correct?
Also , is this 40% refer to value before or after calibration? I asked this because when I restart my tab the value changed (ex: 36% before restart to 53% after restart)
wlighter said:
May I ask what do you mean by rest time intervals of 1 and 5 hours?
Does it mean that the calibration will only take place when the tab is off for 1 hour, then switch on and used till battery depleted by a further 40% minimum and the switch off for another 5 hour. Correct?
Also , is this 40% refer to value before or after calibration? I asked this because when I restart my tab the value changed (ex: 36% before restart to 53% after restart)
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Yes that's correct.
Fuel gauge chip will take 1 measurement of open circuit voltage and internal resistance only when battery is at rest (no charge/discharge) for at least 40min. - so I say 1 hour just to be sure...
Consecutive measurements, from which gauge chip can derive capacity of the battery have to be at least 40% and 5 hours apart.
Technically speaking, that 40% difference can be in either directions. Say you have 40% as of now, leave it in rest for 1 hour, then charge it to 100% and leave it at rest for 5 hours and you will have same result.
Condition "at rest" means voltage change less then 4mV (or mkV) per sec. - I don't remember.
When tablet is in sleep some background processes may awake tablet briefly and reset the 1 hour counter - so to make it work for sure, simply do shutdown.
if you want additional reading on my findings then look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16615800&postcount=517
I tried this method...
1.Charged tab t0 80%, then shut down (removed charger) for 1 hour.
2.Turned on tab and played games for about 45min till battery was 49%.
3.Turned off tab and let sleep for 5 hours (charger still removed).
4.Turned tab back on and battery reads 79%, used for about 20min and battery reads 68%... Seems battery drain is still happening?
Right now i'm charging the tablet back upto 100% then perhaps try this method again... Did I do something wrong?
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I tried this method...
1.Charged tab t0 80%, then shut down (removed charger) for 1 hour.
2.Turned on tab and played games for about 45min till battery was 49%.
3.Turned off tab and let sleep for 5 hours (charger still removed).
4.Turned tab back on and battery reads 79%, used for about 20min and battery reads 68%... Seems battery drain is still happening?
Right now i'm charging the tablet back upto 100% then perhaps try this method again... Did I do something wrong?
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same problem im facing. This is why im wondering is the 40% value of before or after calibration. Because although it might drop 40% before calibration is done, the real drop value might be less then that. Which means to the chip it might just see a drop of example 20% of real drop and hence it didn't perform the calibration because conditions of 40% is nt met.
I did forget to flash back to the stock kernel (using pershoot's).
I just flashed to doc's slim 6.5 which has a modified stock kernel (couldnt find just the stock kernel and my internet is too slow to download the entire stock rom.). Going to try this method again but starting at 40%
1.Battery at 40%, shutdown tablet for 1 hour.
2.Charge tablet to 100% (while shutdown)
3.Leave tablet shutdown for 5 hours
4.Pray to droid gods, find my rain stick and begin dark resurrection ritual while watching true blood.
My only question now is... Should I turn the tablet back on after the 1 hour shutdown? Or should I leave it shutdown and just plug in charger till its 100% charged, then let it stay shutdown for 5 hours?
This is what worked for me:
1. Charged tab to 100% removed from charger.
2. Power down for 1 hour.
3. Power on (tab at 96%)
4. Drain to 46%
5. Power off for 5 hours
When I powered the tab back on after the 5 hours, i used it for a while and rebooted and the battery reading stayed the same which it wasn't doing before the calibration. It has been draining and charging at a normal pace since then and has remained the same after reboots and ROM flashes since the calibration.
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This is what worked for me:
1. Charged tab to 100% removed from charger.
2. Power down for 1 hour.
3. Power on (tab at 96%)
4. Drain to 46%
5. Power off for 5 hours
When I powered the tab back on after the 5 hours, i used it for a while and rebooted and the battery reading stayed the same which it wasn't doing before the calibration. It has been draining and charging at a normal pace since then and has remained the same after reboots and ROM flashes since the calibration.
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I'm going to go ahead and try this method right now! But for me... sometimes my battery will not charge unless the unit is shutdown (ever since battery issues started.). I hope this time it will charge while its on.
Also the instructions say to flash the stock kernel before trying this method... Did you do this? And were you able to flash back to pershoot's without issue?
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It doesn't look like its charging, (system on). Should I just shutdown and charge it to 100%? Then continue with said method? Anyone know if this method will work while tablet is shutdown through the entire process?
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I'm going to go ahead and try this method right now! But for me... sometimes my battery will not charge unless the unit is shutdown (ever since battery issues started.). I hope this time it will charge while its on.
Also the instructions say to flash the stock kernel before trying this method... Did you do this? And were you able to flash back to pershoot's without issue?
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My tab was charging while on, sometimes it wouldn't show it till after a reboot. I did mine from stock 3.1. (A backup I made before I took the TW OTA) I have not re-flashed pershoot's kernel and probably wont till the bug is worked out. I did however flash the deodexed stock TW and flashed a theme and have had no issues.
Edit: if its not chargin while on, i would charge it all the way while off then turn it on so it can read the battery then start the 1 hour power down.
Correction guys...
I was sure that our p7510 model was using TI bq20z75 fuel gauge chip but with new information looks like it's Maxim 17042 chip... It's embarrassing but I have to stay corrected. TI chip would calibrate itself in procedure outlined above as for Maxim - I don't know yet. I'm looking at it.
These are good and bad news. Good one - with this new fact, it's very possible that the reason of chip's SOC counter corruption is in software. Driver for Maxim is pretty messy and complex (because it's messy). In contrast driver for TI is simple and straight forward (because TI chip is smart). Software can be fixed but problem in hardware design not so easy.
Well, I will report back when I find something.
So, will FillTheVoid 's method work with my GT-p7510? :x
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Correction guys...
I was sure that our p7510 model was using TI bq20z75 fuel gauge chip but with new information looks like it's Maxim 17042 chip... It's embarrassing but I have to stay corrected. TI chip would calibrate itself in procedure outlined above as for Maxim - I don't know yet. I'm looking at it.
These are good and bad news. Good one - with this new fact, it's very possible that the reason of chip's SOC counter corruption is in software. Driver for Maxim is pretty messy and complex (because it's messy). In contrast driver for TI is simple and straight forward (because TI chip is smart). Software can be fixed but problem in hardware design not so easy.
Well, I will report back when I find something.
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A lot of this is way over my head, but my battery calibration seems to be accurate, although I can't be absolutely sure because I have no stats from the previous calibration to compare it to. I do know for sure that after this process the bug of it draining then after reboot going back to what it should be is gone.
so i guess we need to flash back the stock ROM w/o TW for this procedure to work? I was trying the same steps with StarBurst + pershoot kernel it seem that it doesn't work. Anyone manage to calibrate with pershoot kernel?
If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
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I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
jakuburban said:
Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
lakshay03 said:
Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
jakuburban said:
Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Yes, I have setcpu and rom toolbox.
But would these applications really cause this problem?
Sent from my X10 using XDA
The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: I had a tip on charging here but removed it after further research read more about batt here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
ToledoJab said:
The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: the best tip I usr for battery life is, let batt runout until phone shuts off, then pull batt, then plug in charger, then replace batt into phone, then phone will boot, enter xrecovery on first boot and wipe batt stats. After wipe while still in xrec pull batt then unplug. Now plug in phone then insert batt. Phone should boot in charge mode( big batt icon only on screen) dont start phone untill light green for 1-2 hours to get full charge . I do this about once a month, when phone starts to shut off around 15%
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As mentioned above as well, this is normal. After charging to 100%, the phone stops battery charging, and will activate charging again only when battery falls a bit (say 97%). Also, battery heating while on charging (and also when using the phone continuously while playing a game) is normal. Relax.. your phone is fine
@ToledoJab
I am having the same issue with battery... phone switching off at 15%, even at 22-23%, when playing a game or something. But switching it back on, and leaving it idle, phone might run for another 2 hours. So it is the extra load while running a game that the phone cant take any longer (i remember getting the 15%,10% and 5% reminders earlier while playing games)...? Does the battery calibrate method actually help in your case? does it go all the way down to 0% or 1% before shutting down.. ?
I just did this after posting that. And yes my phone reported warnings @ 25% 15 10 5 and then shutdown @ 1%.
This way is like reconditioning an old rechargeable ni-cad batt.
All this does is completey drain batt then, with least amount of drainage (phone on, apps& radios running) allows battery to full charge.
There is also a way called recalibrate battery. But this way over charges the batt.
EDIT: I think the phone load will effect reported batt left. I think batt gage use average loads to estimate remaining power. Meaning games, full brightness of LCD, radios -3g -GPS -WiFi -Bluetooth will use more than avg power
edit 2: I found this thread also has some very good points and links. after reading this i will not intentionally take my batt to 0%. I hit 0% about 1-2 times a month on accident as it is. i will just make sure when i do go 0% to wipe stats (dont know if it helps or not) then preform a long (overnight) full charge with phone off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445698
SORRY for ranting on about this, i thought i was smart but i am still/always learning.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on kCernel @ 1.19ghz
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
nikctsh said:
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
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Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
Sent from my pebble blue scoobie doo using Tapatalk.
RazorMC said:
Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
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The battery usage is normal, and its not swollen. I guess I will try to calibrate the battery or reflash the ROM again.
lsalamun said:
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
Sent from my pebble blue scoobie doo using Tapatalk.
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Yea, I will try to calibrate my battery to see if it helps