Just flashed my first ROM a few days ago. It was the Eclipse 0.2.2. Things seem to be running well but I was wondering if there are more performance tweeks (intermediate) that I could do. I still seem to get home screen redraws. I see where some people are seeing as much as 200 mb's of free ram after the flash. I run in the 90's most of the time reaching 140 to 160 right after a reboot. To be honest that is pretty close to what I had been running since the Gingerbread update. Anyone have any performance tweeks I can make keeping in mind my relative inexperience?
Great forum and thanks for all the informative tips!!!!
Just to start out, you may want to sbf and wipe all caches and try reinstalling because I think eclipse is fast as hell. If you feel you got a clean install you can go to android dev subforum and read the init.d hack thread. I didn't notice much of a difference but I am in the minority. Most people feel the init.d hack really speeds things up
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GigaRack said:
Just flashed my first ROM a few days ago. It was the Eclipse 0.2.2. Things seem to be running well but I was wondering if there are more performance tweeks (intermediate) that I could do. I still seem to get home screen redraws. I see where some people are seeing as much as 200 mb's of free ram after the flash. I run in the 90's most of the time reaching 140 to 160 right after a reboot. To be honest that is pretty close to what I had been running since the Gingerbread update. Anyone have any performance tweeks I can make keeping in mind my relative inexperience?
Great forum and thanks for all the informative tips!!!!
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Bulletproof your launcher - that will help. Are you running any of the social network accounts? Kill 'em if so and check your RAM then. Here is a link for the bulletproof:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bu...draw-launcherpro-adw-credit-samsonite801.html
I change the "1" to a "0" - 1 is 'Hard to Kill' and 0 is 'Bulletproof'
Running the init.d hack with Auto Killer Memory Optimizer set to extreme had me running around 180mb free at boot and hover around 150mb for the most part. Haven't tested these long enough to see if that 150 drops further. W/out AKMO I would drop as far down as 80mb free.
Thx for that link, Mistawolfe, gonna check out bulletproofin.
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I thought the init.d hack was for Froyo only? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thread.
Look for the post authored by Navenedrob. There is/was another but I think that one is dead. Someone correct me if I'm wrong..
I would link it but I don't believe I can with the non-donated XDA app.
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Bulletproof your launcher - that will help. Are you running any of the social network accounts? Kill 'em if so and check your RAM then. Here is a link for the bulletproof:
I change the "1" to a "0" - 1 is 'Hard to Kill' and 0 is 'Bulletproof'
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Thanks I will try that tomorrow and post my results!!!
Wow! mistawolf that bulletproof trick really worked!!!!! Thanks for the tip.....not much luck on the free ram....what do you think of running that init.d hack with Auto Killer Memory Optimizer set to extreme as suggested by XOdos?
I removed AKMO this morning after the battery dropped 20% during my morning use: xda checks, fb updates, any email and/or txt received overnight, and market updates. Not the typical battery drop for my extended battery; a very significant drop for that matter.
I wasn't so much suggesting you try that set up as much as I was stating the combo seemed to give me more available RAM. As I've learned, every phone seems to behave differently to various settings, ROMS, kernels and hacks. I try out various combos n go from there.
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Wow! mistawolf that bulletproof trick really worked!!!!! Thanks for the tip.....not much luck on the free ram....what do you think of running that init.d hack with Auto Killer Memory Optimizer set to extreme as suggested by XOdos?
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Check your running services. I bet you have a couple apps just eating stuff up. I have to kill TweetCaster on occasion after viewing or else it will run in the background and gobble up RAM. I don't have any scripts or anything on 2.2 and I go anywhere from 105 to 165 free.
Also, when I used MKMO, I had it set to aggressive, or slightly aggressive, not sure the exact name.
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ok I realized last night that even with the Eclipse ROM there was a lot of bloatware that still needed to be frozen. So after reviewing the suggested items throughout this forum I used Bloat Freezer to remove at least a dozen items. After a reboot I went to 187M of free Ram.....yes!!!! Happy to say I woke up with free RAM sitting at 138!!!!! I am loving my Droid X2 and this forum! Special thanks again to mistawolf who suggested bulletproofing the launcher and looking at my social systems. Didn't realize that even though I was not signed into any social accounts they were still running in the background. Now I am mean and clean!!! Thanks all!!
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Does anyone else have this app? How is yours working out for you? I just installed it on my vibrant that I just installed oclf on, and even though there was an error and it could not install AOSP, it says I am supposed to be getting x1.46 battery. Also, does anyone know what AOSP is?
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Well its down to x1.15, but is still saving me battery. Unplugged at 930am, its now 6pm and I'm at 63. I was using the phone lightly you could say.
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Don't have JD installed anymore, but thought id mention that the dev section has some great stuff. Eugenes Hybrid_r2 ROM has me at 11 hours @ 52% left. Nothing else was added, not even JACs under volted kernel. You should cruise those threads.
AOSP = android open source project
I tried using Juice Defender multiple times.... seems to slow down the phone drastically.
I found a neat replacement for it when I was using my G1, supposed to do the same thing. It's called BatteryFu. I think it does its job.
I use juice defender and works great for me. I use my phone all day easily from 5am to 9pm moderate use and still have 29% left.
juice defender was always having errors for me starting and stopping data, basically would stop working within 24hours of each set up and auto configuration. the free version really does suck so much with its limits and bugs i just dont seeing it being more useful the being smart and turning off 3g networks when you dont need data.
if the full version isnt as buggy then id prob recommend it.... just cant do it with the free though, piece of crap...
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Don't have JD installed anymore, but thought id mention that the dev section has some great stuff. Eugenes Hybrid_r2 ROM has me at 11 hours @ 52% left. Nothing else was added, not even JACs under volted kernel. You should cruise those threads.
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which of jacs kernels are undervolted???? the non over clocked SCv ones? i read through MOST that thread and didnt recall reading that any were lowvolted... mind linking a post if you have an idea??? otherwise ill thread search and skim.....
I use JD on my Vibrant and on my wife's 3GSlide and it works great for us. It can be a little annoying at times when it kills WiFi when you are trying to do something so I set application exceptions to solve that.
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which of jacs kernels are undervolted???? the non over clocked SCv ones? i read through MOST that thread and didnt recall reading that any were lowvolted... mind linking a post if you have an idea??? otherwise ill thread search and skim.....
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I could be wrong but in the earlier stages JAC listed it "for ppl who feel 1ghz is fast enough" I thought that was one of the differences between the 2... Both optimized, one OC'd the other UV'd. Id say pull a quick search of the thread with "under volted" and it may come up. Would make a little sense in having SCs under volted to be truly "optimized".
JD slowed my phone down pretty badly. Now I use DC Switch to manually shut off my data when I'm not using it. It's not ideal but it's better than lag city.
After having it a couple days I noticed it actually takes more off my battery then it was saving. Juice plotter is awesome tho! Too bad it sabotaged his other app. When I would disable juice defender juice plotter expected time till death would go way up, and I noticed the actual line graph was better than the days before using juice defender. I set up all my apps to sync at a slower rate and for some I even disabled syncing, like fb which I do manually if I get new buddies or something.
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Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
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As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
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As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
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Second that,i even uninstalled it.
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For under clocking? Sure it works.
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For under clocking? Sure it works.
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yeah It works just fine for that profile.
Download and buy Titanium Backup Pro and use the app to freeze all the bloatware you don't want running. Stuff like Peep, Blockbuster, Bitbop, CityID, etc. I haven't rooted this one yet, but my old Dinc and DPro showed significant battery life gains when I froze these bloat apps that just seem to always be running. Backup Assistant is another culprit if you aren't using it.
I actually renamed the files using Root Explorer and moved to SD and backed up on my pc, so Titanium wasn't having to intervene all the time to keep them frozen.
I would suggest running Das BAMF Rom v 1.1. Since installing it I've noticed a nice increase in battery performance as well as a snappier phone.
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Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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I would recommend droidwall, its helped my phone out immensely. You can stop your phone from sending out data constantly. That is what I found helped me out the most.
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What else can I do.
Thanks
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You can shell out the fifty bucks for the unsightly extended battery . Bout the only thing that really helps right now, lol.
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Two apps one call network This will allow to cut the 4g off and use 3g. The next app is system app remover cost around two dollars. Lets you remove any app. You should remove blockbuster first. Next get super power beta, it's free. I'm geting 20+ hours with moderate use.
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Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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Install a ROM that doesn't have all that bloat on it.
I renamed all of the bloatware apps to .bak and rebooted.
I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
Any suggestions?
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I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
Any suggestions?
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Unused memory is wasted memory. The goal is to use as much as possible while keeping a reserve free for any app that might be opened.
Go launcher is not the issue. I have near 350-400mb on boot with CM7 and I use it (and it's set to stay in memory).
However, as stated previously, if you're not using your ram it's going to waste and I still wouldnt' care if I only had 200mb free. It's not like on windows where you have to start closing stuff to get the ram back. If you start running out, it'll just start closing apps you're not using for you. I wouldn't worry about it. As much as my ram miser instincts want to kick in (because I started out on computers when 8-16mb of ram was a lot ), I just tell that urge to STFU because it's a dumb idea.
I usually have about 240MB free right after boot and that quickly dwindles down to about 140MB to 160MB. That really is plenty for just about anything you're going to make the phone do at any particular moment. When you think about it, an entire Sense ROM couldn't fill all the memory available, much less AOSP. There's caches and other files taking up the rest of the space, which is good because that's less data pulled from eMMC. Addressing eMMC eat a lot of power. Some of the kernel devs have some good info on how their kernels work and how to tweak them to free up more or less memory. It is possible to script the kernel to much more aggressively free up memory, but typically that will hurt performance.
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
I use this and its fantastic. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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swieder711 said:
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
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Amazon apps, in general, are abuse to resources. Not sure what to tell you about killing it, because killing it is just going to make it restart again, and that's going to eat more battery than letting it just suck up space.
It's not so much the apps on Amazon as the Amazon App itself and how they implement things. Amazon has some crappy DRM for their apps (if the developer decides they want it). Basically means it checks a lot to see if you're online and allowed to use the application (but does so way more than it needs). Some apps have problems or did with working in airplane mode because of that.
It also thinks you have a new phone nearly 100% of the time when you flash a new rom or update your current one. You can log into your amazon account on your PC and find out how many "phones" you have under your account settings for their apps. Each added phone basically causes the app to flip out more and cause more problems, so deleting the extra ones is a good idea.
Other apps will not work without the Amazon store installed, which is a poorly coded piece of crap as well that won't work if you try to modify the contents of the apk.
Also, a lot of those apps running in the background are not really taking up resources, they're just keeping a bare minimum loaded into memory and the rest is cached. They do that so they can load up quickly (like the browser, maps, etc).
I've been on BAMF forever for a few days now, and I typically have only 90-100MB of free RAM. It has been absolutely smooth as can be with no lag. I can open an app, use it for a bit, and then hit home so I can open another app to check on something, and the first app stays in memory just as it should.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
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you'll get used to it. just pretend they're not really open (well most really aren't open, so I guess you dont totally have to pretend, haha)
I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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Yea I am a noob... where in my question did I say I wanted more memory? Are you a noob at reading? I asked if the script I am using goes against the principle of using memory or if it is in fact filling it. Forgive me if I was unclear, but a Smiley in your post doesn't make up for a snide reply. I've only been using android for over a month and i have learned quite a bit already. Just wanted a little clarification/
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Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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I have always said that im not looking so much for a higher number where I see free ram. I just didn't want my ram being used AT ALL by apps/processes that I don't touch AT ALL. Thus allowing me to have more "free ram" for the things I DO USE which of course makes my phone "run faster/smoother" as my system doesn't have ti drop an app I am not using to allow enough ram to go to the one I am opening.
Just felt.like putting my 2cents sorry.
And I only use v6 supercharger for oom grouping fix as that's what I found benefits the.phones operations. Its not the minfree adjustments that help so much as the groupings fix that comes along with it. At least that's what I've found with my experience /experiments
try it. U SHOULD notice same silky buttery results
Everyone seems to find different results tho but it's worth a try. I feel like gingerbread minfrees are fine where they are. Oom grouping fix is what's helping/needed for smoother operations
It just gets old with people complaining about their lack of memory. Supercharger and speedy etc work by other ways. The free memory is (almost) inconsequential.
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It just gets old with people complaining about their lack of memory. Supercharger and speedy etc work by other ways. The free memory is (almost) inconsequential.
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I can understand what your saying. I was by no means complaining. I am loving how my phone is running. Just wanted some information on what these scripts are doing. From what I understand they free memory up, which goes against what I read is opposite of how the phone should work. Either way phone runs like sh*t thru a goose!!
You can't blame people for complaining about the memory problems. Between the 384 MB RAM and Motorola's inability to program, this phone multitasks worse than an iPhone on iOS 1.
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This thread needs closed. Not b/c of the OP but b/c of the back handed comments to the OP..if he/she wants to spend time finding the best way to have more free RAM then he should be allowed to inquire, after searching first, w/out people back handing him, but this wouldn't be XDA if you folks let this go.
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I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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Basically what these scripts do is change the limit for when Android "needs" to kill a running process. Different types of processes are assigned an OOM or Out Of Memory group. when free memory reaches your limit you choose in these scripts Android starts killing off apps with the least amount of "value" so if say you've picked a setting in your script that says you want 80mb free, as long as you have 80mb or more free it leaves the idle processes alone, the second it dips below 80 Android starts killing idle processes to free up memory and continuing on killing processes until it's back to the preprogrammed "safe levels".
I probably got something wrong there or left something out/mixed something up, I haven't slept in 2 days but, that's the jist of it.
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Basically what these scripts do is change the limit for when Android "needs" to kill a running process. Different types of processes are assigned an OOM or Out Of Memory group. when free memory reaches your limit you choose in these scripts Android starts killing off apps with the least amount of "value" so if say you've picked a setting in your script that says you want 80mb free, as long as you have 80mb or more free it leaves the idle processes alone, the second it dips below 80 Android starts killing idle processes to free up memory and continuing on killing processes until it's back to the preprogrammed "safe levels".
I probably got something wrong there or left something out/mixed something up, I haven't slept in 2 days but, that's the jist of it.
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Thanks man... I appreciate the info. I really don't worry about free memory at all. That was not my intention in this thread. I am new to android and when I pick something up I wanna learn as much as I can about it. Asking questions is usually the best way to find answers haha.
To the poster that asked for this thread to be closed, I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't worry about petty things posted on the internet. I told him what I thought and that's that...
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Thanks man... I appreciate the info. I really don't worry about free memory at all. That was not my intention in this thread. I am new to android and when I pick something up I wanna learn as much as I can about it. Asking questions is usually the best way to find answers haha.
To the poster that asked for this thread to be closed, I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't worry about petty things posted on the internet. I told him what I thought and that's that...
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You're welcome, I'm just like you, I like to know how stuff works. You've probably heard it before but, a well phrased google search really is your best friend. You might have to skim over a dozen pages before you really find what you want to know but have the battle is knowing some key terms. Like "minfrees" "OOM groupings" etc. Also I believe zeppelinrocks OP on supercharger script has a lot of the info you're looking for. Just keep reading, keep google searching new terms you learn, keep asking questions, and most importantly don't get discouraged.
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You're welcome, I'm just like you, I like to know how stuff works. You've probably heard it before but, a well phrased google search really is your best friend. You might have to skim over a dozen pages before you really find what you want to know but have the battle is knowing some key terms. Like "minfrees" "OOM groupings" etc. Also I believe zeppelinrocks OP on supercharger script has a lot of the info you're looking for. Just keep reading, keep google searching new terms you learn, keep asking questions, and most importantly don't get discouraged.
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+1 Zepps supercharger thread is GREAT and had so much info! I learned a lot reading some of that thread.
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See, it's the attitude exhibited by people like ilovesoad that burns my ass.
Linux "gurus" that preach that memory must be as full as possible and it won't effect performance.
That's Bull****.
Guess what?
Linux is for PCs. So why the hell should Android be configured like it's a PC?
Yeah great, background apps load quicker when ram is full. Big deal.
What good is that when the dialer lags like hell? It's a phone ffs.
I don't need a ram filled, laggy phone that does **** that I don't care about in the background.
Fact is, when memory is too full, it bogs down to the point that you want to pull your hair out.
On the flipside, any given device won't get any performance increase over a certain level of free RAM.
So I try and find settings that match up to a devices "lag level" - the point at which free RAM gets low enough to slow the system down.
The faster the phone, the more free ram it needs free so that the cpu doesn't get bottlenecked by too little ram.
Anything above that is pointless.
So on my Milestone, which doesn't have much ram anyway, the lag level is about 25 - 30 mb - so that's what I set slot 3 at for 256 mb devices.
For 512mb devices I got ALOT of input in order to determine that a 512mb device will start to lag anywhere between 50 -80 mb or so... so that's why I have slot 3 in that ballpark for my 512mb device settings.
So that's what it does - finds the balance between performance and multitasking - while getting rid of the damn laggy launcher once and for all.
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See, it's the attitude exhibited by people like ilovesoad that burns my ass.
Linux "gurus" that preach that memory must be as full as possible and it won't effect performance.
That's Bull****.
Guess what?
Linux is for PCs. So why the hell should Android be configured like it's a PC?
Yeah great, background apps load quicker when ram is full. Big deal.
What good is that when the dialer lags like hell? It's a phone ffs.
I don't need a ram filled, laggy phone that does **** that I don't care about in the background.
Fact is, when memory is too full, it bogs down to the point that you want to pull your hair out.
On the flipside, any given device won't get any performance increase over a certain level of free RAM.
So I try and find settings that match up to a devices "lag level" - the point at which free RAM gets low enough to slow the system down.
The faster the phone, the more free ram it needs free so that the cpu doesn't get bottlenecked by too little ram.
Anything above that is pointless.
So on my Milestone, which doesn't have much ram anyway, the lag level is about 25 - 30 mb - so that's what I set slot 3 at for 256 mb devices.
For 512mb devices I got ALOT of input in order to determine that a 512mb device will start to lag anywhere between 50 -80 mb or so... so that's why I have slot 3 in that ballpark for my 512mb device settings.
So that's what it does - finds the balance between performance and multitasking - while getting rid of the damn laggy launcher once and for all.
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Thanks a lot for responding, you answered my question and put the smack down too lol. Script is running fine and phone is fast fast fast. I even use a lwp now with no lag!!!!
heh.. yeah.. it was late and I was tired and gumpy but the rant felt great lol
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heh.. yeah.. it was late and I was tired and gumpy but the rant felt great lol
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Tired/buzzing/don't care rants feel the best...I did one of the don't care rants on the moto soak test forum. Felt damn good to get it out there
Alright, coming from WM way back to an iPaq, as soon as I got an android I got task killers, especially as I watched my memory go down to like 40 megs.
After reading I am deciding to remove any (excluding ZDBox) task killers that I have, and see if Android really does manage memory well.
I have to admit that when I did notice my launcher running slow, I would kill tasks and it would pick back up. Anyways....
I have one question - I am running Juice Defender, that doesn't kill tasks, just manages wifi, and the radio, right? Its ok to keep that going?
I am running a rooted TB with BAMF SoaB with GoLauncher as my home.
Any input on this would be appreciated!
JuiceDefender does no task killing, just deals w/networking as you said. The only reason a task kller would be necessary is a misbehaved app that wakes up often and burns processor cycles - Android reclaims memory when needed (a built in task killer, if you will). If you have a less-than-popular app, it might have such a problem, but popular apps get enough scrutiny that they should not be burning cycles and should not need to be killed.
That helps me, thx.
I completely agree for juice defender. It helps on "saving your battery", not on managing app on background.
You could try Advanced Task Killer. it's a good one. I used it on my I9000 when i had a Gingerbread rom and it worked great
v6supercharger,no need for taskkiller..
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rashid.fairus said:
v6supercharger,no need for taskkiller..
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So I have read your post about this v6supercharger (wouldn't mind a real one for my truck, another post)
You indicate its easy, but I have zero knowledge about this kind of stuff. I will be going over the instillation instructions, but want to be sure that if I screw something up in the setup, It will be easy (battery pull) to start over?
Also, I am running a rooted phone with a CPU speed setting, and have overclocked it to 1400, will this V6 do the same, or is it a completely different setup?
jerrya said:
So I have read your post about this v6supercharger (wouldn't mind a real one for my truck, another post)
You indicate its easy, but I have zero knowledge about this kind of stuff. I will be going over the instillation instructions, but want to be sure that if I screw something up in the setup, It will be easy (battery pull) to start over?
Also, I am running a rooted phone with a CPU speed setting, and have overclocked it to 1400, will this V6 do the same, or is it a completely different setup?
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at the first time it maybe cause a bootloop(stuck),so pull out battery and boot again,so better not run it on boot,if its working(no bootloop) then you can set it to run on boot so you have permanent setup,and you can unsupercharger if you dont like it,it doesnt touch your clock speed,it just playing with ram and out of memory things,dont worry bout setting it,it will suggest for you..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thanks, I will give it a go Monday, thats my best time when I have all day without distractions. Will report when I get done with it.
jerrya said:
Thanks, I will give it a go Monday, thats my best time when I have all day without distractions. Will report when I get done with it.
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good luck,and make sure you made a backup..
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