So after sprint being one of the lowest ETF for 200$ it looks like they might changed that next month , what you guys think ?
http://thedroidguy.com/2011/08/sprint-raising-etfs-just-in-time-for-galaxy-s-ii/
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Good for Sprint.
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I wouldn't blame them but $600 for u used EVO? I was lucky to get three hundred with extras out the nose
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I wouldn't blame them but $600 for u used EVO? I was lucky to get three hundred with extras out the nose
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I saw a nice EVO 4G in my area with several TPU cases and extended batteries for $300 obo, its tempting to grab it.
As for the OP, I assume its a sign of the economy and people not paying their bills.
I thought the government capped early termination fees last year. I don't know what it was capped at, so maybe it doesn't apply...
I got my 3d by adding a new line and trading in my shift at radio shack. Had the line put on seasonal hold and someone ducked up and removed it off my account lol. No eft for me lol
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I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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Ya know!!!
This ain't Canada! We are an unlimited country!!!
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Maybe by raising the ETF, they will reduce their losses regarding those that are taking advantage of the system. Hopefully, they'll pass some of those savings onto us or invest them into their network infrastructure. I was hoping that they'd upgrade their infrastructure with the $10 per month premium data fees but haven't seen it in my area.
My girlfriend got the HTC Hero less than a month before it was discontinued. There have been some updates that have bogged her phone down fiercely. Especially the newer updates to google maps. Her navigation wouldn't last more than a few minutes before FC'n. I was able to cancel her contract and get her a new phone for a reasonable amount of cash.
I would hope that they do not slap a static higher ETF on every phone and instead look at each phone individually. It wouldn't have been reasonable for her to have had anything more than a $200 ETF on her phone. Although I'm surprised that our Evo 3D's don't have a higher ETF and wouldn't be upset if they were.
The 30 day sprint guarantee is a great program and should be adequate time to know whether you want to be locked into a contract with them or not so the ETF is usually a non-issue with typical subscribers.
And as for not caring what the ETF is... I guess you guys weren't with AT&T when they got the Iphone. I was locked in my contract for another year and my bandwidth was horrid. It wasn't until Verizon got the iphone that they bothered to upgrade their network with all that iphone money they had been collecting for years. You never know how sprint service in your area may change in the future.
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mazook98 said:
I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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techspec06 said:
Maybe by raising the ETF, they will reduce their losses regarding those that are taking advantage of the system. Hopefully, they'll pass some of those savings onto us or invest them into their network infrastructure. I was hoping that they'd upgrade their infrastructure with the $10 per month premium data fees but haven't seen it in my area.
My girlfriend got the HTC Hero less than a month before it was discontinued. There have been some updates that have bogged her phone down fiercely. Especially the newer updates to google maps. Her navigation wouldn't last more than a few minutes before FC'n. I was able to cancel her contract and get her a new phone for a reasonable amount of cash.
I would hope that they do not slap a static higher ETF on every phone and instead look at each phone individually. It wouldn't have been reasonable for her to have had anything more than a $200 ETF on her phone. Although I'm surprised that our Evo 3D's don't have a higher ETF and wouldn't be upset if they were.
The 30 day sprint guarantee is a great program and should be adequate time to know whether you want to be locked into a contract with them or not so the ETF is usually a non-issue with typical subscribers.
And as for not caring what the ETF is... I guess you guys weren't with AT&T when they got the Iphone. I was locked in my contract for another year and my bandwidth was horrid. It wasn't until Verizon got the iphone that they bothered to upgrade their network with all that iphone money they had been collecting for years. You never know how sprint service in your area may change in the future.
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I believe its going to be 350 for smart phones and 200 on regular ones.
Maybe prepping for an iPhone 5 release?
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First this would not affect us who have contracts already only new ones. Also, who cares? Sprint has the best prices in the u.s. right now. If you want to get out of your contract etf free there are a couple threads already aboiut that topic.
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I believe its going to be 350 for smart phones and 200 on regular ones.
Maybe prepping for an iPhone 5 release?
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If this is true, it is likely to be put in place to lock in those users who switch to Sprint for the iPhone 5 + unlimited (and slow) data.
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Right now I am with Verizon, but out of contract. I completed my 2 years, so now just pay every month.
Am I right in thinking that if I buy the TB, I will get the unlimited 4G. When Verizon switches to limited 4G, I will be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G ?
I was thinking about this too.. I think you are, but you can't upgrade your phones, you have to buy retail/off contact? could be wrong though, probably am.
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I just found out about this possibility this morning and called verizon and they said you will be grandfathered in. I just bought a bolt two hours ago.
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Buy now or be sorry later.
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If they change the plan on you, you have the option to cancel with no etf...i will take unlimited 4G though
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You will have unlimited at least through the term of your contract. There's always the possibility that, when they launch tiered plans, they will require it when you activate a new phone (similar to what they did for feature phones) or remove it as an option when you do your next contract.
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Its a very strong possibility that you will be grandfathered in. If i am not, i will be giving Verizon every ounce of hell i can give them.
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Right now I am with Verizon, but out of contract. I completed my 2 years, so now just pay every month.
Am I right in thinking that if I buy the TB, I will get the unlimited 4G. When Verizon switches to limited 4G, I will be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G ?
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Aside from the grandfathering issue, if you're contract is up, then you should try to haggle for a discount. My contract ended late last year, then took a pass on the lame 3G iPhone.
When the TB came around, I called up Verizon and told them I didn't think I was getting a good value for my contract. I had on a 1400 family plan with F&F, and our usage was only 300 min/mo or so. I told them I had started shopping other carriers and asked them what they could do for me.
They dropped me to the 700 min/mo plan, and added mobile-to-mobile at $15 less per mo. I then got a loyal customer award, one free month of service if I renewed my contract. This didn't affect phone upgrades. I also had a $50 discount for a new phone coming which was their usual bait for upgrading.
So after all that, I upgraded to the TB at considerable savings. Def worth a shot.
Well, this just sucks!
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8746
Figures.
Won't affect me though because I don't plan on leaving Sprint. I just wish their data speeds would get better. But the alternative to that is Verizon which is like 1/3 more in price and capped data. What good is having 4328907540913409843 mbps download speeds if you can only use 2 gigs of it per month?
Next 2G data....
Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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Since you already have a contract the ETF will remain the same. Unless you renew your contract. But I think that you have until a certain date in September to renew or change your contract without any ETF changes after that is $350.
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Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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It is only for a new contracts, old contracts stay the same.
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The irony here is, doesn't this material change to a core term of the original contract allow existing customers OUT of said contracts binding terms without having to pay any ETF?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/...ee-to-350-wants-to-play-with-t/#disqus_thread
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It is only for a new contracts, old contracts stay the same.
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If that's accurate, than there is no alteration to existing contracts and you cant use it to get out. Although, who would want to leave Sprint now anyway? Especially us SERO folks.
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The irony here is, doesn't this material change to a core term of the original contract allow existing customers OUT of said contracts binding terms without having to pay any ETF?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/...ee-to-350-wants-to-play-with-t/#disqus_thread
If that's accurate, than there is no alteration to existing contracts and you cant use it to get out. Although, who would want to leave Sprint now anyway? Especially us SERO folks.
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Agreed, I'm SERO. Got 2 lines, and can add more if I want.
Well they have to start somewhere specially iPhone is going to sprint. I'm pretty sure sprint has been keep in eye on Verizon when they received the iPhone and what are the downfalls. It's all about data speed here if iPhone has 4G capabilities.
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I just wish their data speeds would get better. But the alternative to that is Verizon which is like 1/3 more in price and capped data. What good is having 4328907540913409843 mbps download speeds if you can only use 2 gigs of it per month?
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Take heart! Sprint has a large strategy meeting October 7th that's supposed to reveal significant 4G plans.
Hopefully it's: "You know those multi-cast towers we've been developing? Yeah, every tower that you could get 3G on before now has 4G enabled.... NOW!"
Like this morning, I tested our 4G in our area and this what I got. Download 9.87 mbps and upload 3.65 mbps. That's faster than my home internet
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had sprint since 2001, onlly gonna effect you if you plan on back out of your contract early, i see no need to, i extend my contract all the time because they keep giving me bonuses to do so
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Take heart! Sprint has a large strategy meeting October 7th that's supposed to reveal significant 4G plans.
Hopefully it's: "You know those multi-cast towers we've been developing? Yeah, every tower that you could get 3G on before now has 4G enabled.... NOW!"
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I heard that, I hope it's big news that actually affects my service in my area. I would love to have 4G. I've only connected to 4G like 4 times since I first got my OG EVO back in may of 2010. Closest places that have 4G are Charlotte and Atlanta.
Anyone notice all the companies double the ETF right before releasing the iphone?
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Anyone notice all the companies double the ETF right before releasing the iphone?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Apple was the only reason for ETF's going up on the carriers that have the iPhone.
* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
Unfortunately, it appears to me like they are cutting costs for the purpose of making themselves more attractive to potential buyers.
i went to at&t and can't be happier speeds are great an so is the call quality . and my plans saves me 60 a month
2 gig cap sure but im ok with that
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Unfortunately, it appears to me like they are cutting costs for the purpose of making themselves more attractive to potential buyers.
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Possibly. They need to stop sponsoring every event in sight and fix their network.
While driving home from Lake Tahoe, though NV this Summer, I drove by some raceway outside of Carson City 50 miles with Sprint signs plastered all over it...do you think I even had service there? No.
its all the iphone 5 fault lol
I came to Sprint last year for the Evo 4G and the fact they had a lot of benefits...the same benefits they seem to be scrapping now.
I'll wait a few months to see how things pan out, but I think they really to stop getting rid of the good things that seperate them from AT&T and Verizon, especially being that the data service is becoming inconsistant.
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its all the iphone 5 fault lol
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Well, yeah, it is, but that's what I'm getting this next time around...but I'm to the point where I'm willing to pay $40 more a month for data speeds that are actually usable, so I might as well switch to ATT or VZ, since Sprint no longer offers any incentives to stick around.
Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Strange; I think that actually increased about 2 weeks ago, but it used to only be $14 or $21...I forget. They'll usually take it off if you call in, or att/vz do.
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Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Is 36$ for a new line and 18$ for adding a line the one the changed was 18$- to 36$ for upgrading a line, which is crazy imo ,anyways so far I don't get amazing speeds but there ok now back in March I had Verizon for 5 months it was good and all but Damn Bill was half of what I pay for 4ines plus limmited callls
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Is 36$ for a new line and 18$ for adding a line the one the changed was 18$- to 36$ for upgrading a line, which is crazy imo ,anyways so far I don't get amazing speeds but there ok now back in March I had Verizon for 5 months it was good and all but Damn Bill was half of what I pay for 4ines plus limmited callls
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Yea I was paying 180 for 2 lines with Verizon and i only had 700 minutes between us and unlimited text and data which is ridiculous
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* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
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I agree that all the changes suck really bad for us. I don't understand why wireless carriers discourage users from upgrading their cell phones every year If cell phone manufacturers are going to be making new, top-of-the-line phones every 6 months, then what purpose does it serve to restrict a customer from upgrading? In regards to your comment about wimax being scrapped, I live in Arizona, where there is practically no 4G service in major cities, including Phoenix (6 towers total). I have complained almost non-stop to Sprint about their lack of 4G coverage in Arizona, and to my shock they are actually turning on more towers in the Phoenix area. At the start of 2011 there were only 2 towers in Phoenix. So, although the wimax rollout has slowed down significantly, Sprint and Clear are still turning on 4G wimax in markets that desperately need it.
How many forums are you going to repost this in? Just post it on sprints forums ffs
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well every good thing as we all know must come to an end at some point. Although im not dead set on changing carriers just because of this, i will see how things pan out with the 1x and 3g upgrades and how the iphone affects data bandwidth availability. Yes most r speculating that it will kill the network but only time will truly tell. As for wimax, most of the early promoters of 4g expected that lte was gonna be dominant in the end and good for sprint that it's basically just a base station software update. Yea sucks for wimax phone owners but hey it is wat it is... in my opinion, i don't expect any companies that i pay for a service to give me anything above and beyond what im actually paying for which is just the service. If they do that's an attractive bonus but i expect that it will prolly cease to exist one day. Sprint doesn't have to give us unlimited data but they choose to at the moment to attract more subscribers. However if that prospect becomes to costly at the demise of their network from overloads then they will remove that option plain and simple. Business is business at the end of the day and money talks.
Its cute that you think data throttling is next up when its already happening. hurrdurrr
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Its cute that you think data throttling is next up when its already happening. hurrdurrr
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I can assure you it's not. My Speeds have been going up constantly (see my sig) & I chew through data.
Also the one of the 2 largest points behind the shifts is to "keep" it that way.
They mentioned that.
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.php
When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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Even during the switch (if/when they switch), Wimax will still be available through Sprint. They aren't going to deactivate it.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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By the time that rolls out I am pretty confident another evo will be out.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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And the extra charge isn't for 4g, its getting really annoying still seeing people complain about a "4g charge" that doesn't exist and that they knowingly accepted
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I dunno what happened but this prl is back up and running great. Thought I would let the people who use this know. Mods please move if in wrong place and I apologize if you guys already knew this.
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Isn't this the PRL that causes you to use Verizon's towers, making people with high bandwidth usage get terminated from Sprint, and also helping the people who want to avoid an ETF get out of their contract without paying, hurting the rest of us?
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Isn't this the PRL that causes you to use Verizon's towers, making people with high bandwidth usage get terminated from Sprint, and also helping the people who want to avoid an ETF get out of their contract without paying, hurting the rest of us?
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That's the one! Lol
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Isn't this the PRL that causes you to use Verizon's towers, making people with high bandwidth usage get terminated from Sprint, and also helping the people who want to avoid an ETF get out of their contract without paying, hurting the rest of us?
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Yessir that is the one and that's exactly why I'm using it.
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Yessir that is the one and that's exactly why I'm using it.
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Just making sure that was the one I was thinking of. Thanks for being part of the problem!
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Just making sure that was the one I was thinking of. Thanks for being part of the problem!
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He is part of the solution as far as I am concerned. The ETF fees are filled with greed and are only a tool to hold people hostage. If there are ways to use their contracts against them, I am all for it. What he is doing is NOT illegal. I would argue that the steady stream of contract changes that we get sucked into by default are deceptive and low on the part of sprint.
PLUS... if he gets out, that is one less customer we have to worry about on our data stream... (assuming he would have been using it if there wasn't this other out option).
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He is part of the solution as far as I am concerned. The ETF fees are filled with greed and are only a tool to hold people hostage. If there are ways to use their contracts against them, I am all for it. What he is doing is NOT illegal. I would argue that the steady stream of contract changes that we get sucked into by default are deceptive and low on the part of sprint.
PLUS... if he gets out, that is one less customer we have to worry about on our data stream... (assuming he would have been using it if there wasn't this other out option).
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Let's take this one at a time:
1) ETF's are not a way for companies to use contracts against the customer. You sign a contract because you don't want to pay $600 for a new phone. You're more than welcome to buy the phone at full price and only use month to month if you want, thereby negating the need for any contract to get involved. Don't feel like paying full price for the phone, either? Well, then you're **** out of luck.
2)No, he is not part of the solution. By him skirting his ETF, he basically paid $200 for a phone, and then is getting out of his contract ETF-free, basically making Sprint lose money on their sale of that device.
3) While it does mean one less person on the data stream, freeing up precious bandwidth for the rest of us, it is also one less customer for Sprint. One less paying customer mind you. If too many people do this, Sprint is going to have to make changes to make money, and you know what will be the next thing to go? Say goodbye to your unlimited data.
So, it's one of two ways. Either buy your phones at full price without contract, or pony up the ETF if you want to leave. Don't **** it up for the rest of us, asshole.
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Let's take this one at a time:
1) ETF's are not a way for companies to use contracts against the customer. You sign a contract because you don't want to pay $600 for a new phone. You're more than welcome to buy the phone at full price and only use month to month if you want, thereby negating the need for any contract to get involved. Don't feel like paying full price for the phone, either? Well, then you're **** out of luck.
2)No, he is not part of the solution. By him skirting his ETF, he basically paid $200 for a phone, and then is getting out of his contract ETF-free, basically making Sprint lose money on their sale of that device.
3) While it does mean one less person on the data stream, freeing up precious bandwidth for the rest of us, it is also one less customer for Sprint. One less paying customer mind you. If too many people do this, Sprint is going to have to make changes to make money, and you know what will be the next thing to go? Say goodbye to your unlimited data.
So, it's one of two ways. Either buy your phones at full price without contract, or pony up the ETF if you want to leave. Don't **** it up for the rest of us, asshole.
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Just flashed 000001 prl thank you for the motivation I have 5 days to get out my contract wish me luck!
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Just flashed 000001 prl thank you for the motivation I have 5 days to get out my contract wish me luck!
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they won't boot you right away. It usually takes a few Billing cycles. I can see sprint eventually just charging the balls out of people you use that prl somehow.
I tried that prl a couple months ago when I needed to stream some video one evening. I must not have hit "commit changes" when changing back to 21081, and I stayed on it for over a month, using 6ish gigs of data. I have not yet heard anything from them about it luckily.
anyone have the link for download
Thanks for the tip op. I'll be switching back to it now
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anyone have the link for download
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http://team-nocturnal.com/showthread.php?41-Collection-of-PRL-s
All directions are there too
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I used the 00001 prl this past week . I was in SC where apparently sprint decided "Eh we dont need any towers out here let Verizon cover it" I got tired of the phone constantly struggling for signal I just downloaded the PRL and flashed it on the phone to stabalize it some what .I mean hell the phone was going to be roaming anyways might as well give it the tower listings to get the best out of the signal I had access to . In my eyes thats Sprints issue not mine . They said they had the coverage well apparently they dont so they can chow down on the roaming charges . Maybe if they pay enough roaming charges they might get a bright idea to put a tower up in the area I was in .
Thanks for the heads up, just flashed mine and works great
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I think its truely funny , I just tried the verizon prl at my home and compared it to the Sprint PRL (21081)
Verizon DL 2.01 UPL 0.75
Sprint DL 0.50 UPL 0.25
Tell me there isnt something wrong with this picture . As much as I hate to say it , all the more reason for my future transition back to Verizon . Yeah they cost alittle more but you get faster access and better coverage .
Flash 00001. Sync dropbox files back and forth from phone to DB then delete all of dropbox then do it again.. you should get your account suspended within about 5 gigs. Go sync the entire repo for ICS and then delete it and do it again. Maybe get a torrent or 9 while its going. WiFi tether everywhere for everyone. Open network with androidAP changed to maybe free internet for all. All on roaming. Sprint will drop u like a tweaker drops his rocks at the smell of bacon.
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It actually broke my text messaging
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tried and not working here in Oahu
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Let's take this one at a time:
1) ETF's are not a way for companies to use contracts against the customer. You sign a contract because you don't want to pay $600 for a new phone. You're more than welcome to buy the phone at full price and only use month to month if you want, thereby negating the need for any contract to get involved. Don't feel like paying full price for the phone, either? Well, then you're **** out of luck.
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To be fair, not true. YOU can as a current Sprint customer, but if I were to have say, my wife decide to switch from Verizon to Sprint tomorrow, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY for her to join Sprint as a new customer without a 2 year contract, whether she pays $999999999999 up front for her equipment or not.
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3) While it does mean one less person on the data stream, freeing up precious bandwidth for the rest of us, it is also one less customer for Sprint. One less paying customer mind you. If too many people do this, Sprint is going to have to make changes to make money, and you know what will be the next thing to go? Say goodbye to your unlimited data.
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Maybe they could you know, fix their ****ing network and people wouldn't leave?
Never mind that unlimited data is going away eventually, no matter what. But hey, have fun with your crusade against the inconsequential amount of people using 00001
I'm really considering switching to Tmobile with all the crap Verizon is pulling. Tmobile offering to pay ETF's. My question is and I'm not sure many devs will come across this but who's all down to switch and say the hell with you Big Red.
With this new talk of Verizon wanting to control Internet traffic. Enough is enough.
So who's all down to teach Verizon to treat their paying customers better?
Also having the unlocked bootloader on Tmo is a plus.
So they pay ETF'S, unlocked bootloaders, and no annual contracts.
I'd love for everyone to go to Tmo the same day and pickup a Note3 unlocked.
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I'm really considering switching to Tmobile with all the crap Verizon is pulling. Tmobile offering to pay ETF's. My question is and I'm not sure many devs will come across this but who's all down to switch and say the hell with you Big Red.
With this new talk of Verizon wanting to control Internet traffic. Enough is enough.
So who's all down to teach Verizon to treat their paying customers better?
Also having the unlocked bootloader on Tmo is a plus.
So they pay ETF'S, unlocked bootloaders, and no annual contracts.
I'd love for everyone to go to Tmo the same day and pickup a Note3 unlocked.
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Why would you ever do the tmobiles switching program? You have to turn in your phone also making you pay for another note 3, they profit by selling your phone by having money left over after paying the etf. I'm planning on switching by selling my phone for 600+$ paying the etf and I will have over 300$ to pay for another note 3. Verizon can suck my dong, I'm done.
EDIT: And unlimited FU**ING data!
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Why would you ever do the tmobiles switching program? You have to turn in your phone also making you pay for another note 3, they profit by selling your phone by having money left over after paying the etf. I'm planning on switching by selling my phone for 600+$ paying the etf and I will have over 300$ to pay for another note 3. Verizon can suck my dong, I'm done.
EDIT: And unlimited FU**ING data!
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Yeah I didn't know you had to pay for a new Note3 if they pay you ETF. So sell the phone then have them pay the ETF?
I just started this to see if any and how many folks will switch.
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Yeah I didn't know you had to pay for a new Note3 if they pay you ETF. So sell the phone then have them pay the ETF?
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Shoot I accidently liked your post, I don't want to confuse anyone. But how it goes is they will pay your etf if you trade them qualifying phone. That leaves you phoneless with no cash to buy a new phone on tmobile. So to calculate your etf fee is $350 originally - $10 for every month completed of your contract. So mine would be 320$ I think. So if I sell my phone on swappa for 650$ and me pay my etf, I'll have 330$ left for a new phone!! You get it?
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I just started this to see if any and how many folks will switch.
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I'm glad @BeansTown106 is
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Yep got it
Thanks for the info.
So to go into Tmo with a clean slate is going to benefit everyone.
Come on in, the water is nice. I am a long time t-mobile customer, and I couldn't be happier. Low rates, top phones, good coverage (urban), unlimited international text and data (not a gimmick, I used it in Japan for a week).
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I thought you would be able to utilize the zero down program after they pay your ETF.
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I thought you would be able to utilize the zero down program after they pay your ETF.
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You can, but still. Why would you do that. You would get screwed by both of thier programs.
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Okay I clearly need to research it a bit more.
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Okay I clearly need to research it a bit more.
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Sounds all good but look at T Mo's coverage map. Kinda gargles rhino balls..... most people that will stay with Big Dumb Red is for coverage reasons. In more places than not, if you're off the interstate you're out of luck.
My Sprint LG G2 is on the way. If the coverage has improved since they finally got LTE in my area I'll eventually switch my family over and get another N3. Got the G2 cuz it's free online. Done with Verizon and their locked bootloaders
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I gave T-Mobile a go with the $30 plan last month. Service is definitely a keeper in urban areas, but not so rosy elsewhere. I suggest giving the Walmart $30 a go on your Note 3s before dumping your Verizon contract, as unlike AT&T, they aren't buying us back.
I frequent Philly, I95 south of there to NC, and I40 west to AK. Every urban area on that route had superb T-Mobile voice/data performance. However, once you are 5 miles out of the urban areas, you're on Edge. I had never experienced Edge while on a highway before, so I set my assumptions based on the .12mbps speed tests, as in it would be fine for simple web browsing/maps. Unfortunately, it is not very usable on the highway. Edge cannot load even simple web pages quickly, and I find it times out quite often when the phone jumps to a new tower. Don't even think about Google Maps or Pandora. The only other issue is handoffs to AT&T roaming towers, very common in western NC and eastern TN. The handoffs are quite crude, dropping calls and ending your data session.
Verizon is the exact opposite, useless in the cities on that route, but incredible everywhere else. I can maintain LTE the entire 20 hour drive. I dropped the T-Mobile plan, as I am keeping my Verizon UL and the Sprint Student Promo with Nexus 5. However, when I can afford plane tickets between only urban areas and/or Verizon takes away my UL data, I'll dump them for T-Mobile.
All these comments are good information for ultimately making a decision. Thanks guys
The only complaint I have is their service is area is not that good in places. Other than that I have been a happy Tmobile customer.
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The only complaint I have is their service is area is not that good in places. Other than that I have been a happy Tmobile customer.
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I'm not talking smack on T Mo at all. Their business plan and service rates are fair and unlocked phones are nice. It's just the service you DONT get if you're a heavy traveler. I use T Mo at home in my sim # 3 spot because I do get good data at the house. When I'm in South Texas oil fields I use my # 2 sim AT&T. If I'm in west Texas oil field I use Big RED. The 3 sim setup is nice and I always have service...... my bill is around $200 a month but it's a write off anyway.
I thought long and hard about the switch because I too am sick of Verizon's BS. But after it's all said and done I'd only be saving $10 maybe $20 a month. I get a discount on my Verizon bill through work that T-Mobile doesn't offer, otherwise the savings would be greater. When it's all said and done I'd rather put up with the BS and pay the extra money for the coverage.
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I thought long and hard about the switch because I too am sick of Verizon's BS. But after it's all said and done I'd only be saving $10 maybe $20 a month. I get a discount on my Verizon bill through work that T-Mobile doesn't offer, otherwise the savings would be greater. When it's all said and done I'd rather put up with the BS and pay the extra money for the coverage.
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Check with your company, I get 15% @ T-Mobile through corporate perks web page with my company. 85 bucks a month for two lines, unlimited talk, text, and web.
I realize we are at different companies, but if your company is using corporate perks it should be similar.
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Check with your company, I get 15% @ T-Mobile through corporate perks web page with my company. 85 bucks a month for two lines, unlimited talk, text, and web.
I realize we are at different companies, but if your company is using corporate perks it should be similar.
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I tried checking my eligibility on the T-Mobile site (you enter your work email) but it said I wasn't eligible. I guess it won't hurt to ask the big wigs at work about it ... I think the City I work for only deals with Verizon, so that may be why.
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