Well, this just sucks!
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8746
Figures.
Won't affect me though because I don't plan on leaving Sprint. I just wish their data speeds would get better. But the alternative to that is Verizon which is like 1/3 more in price and capped data. What good is having 4328907540913409843 mbps download speeds if you can only use 2 gigs of it per month?
Next 2G data....
Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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Since you already have a contract the ETF will remain the same. Unless you renew your contract. But I think that you have until a certain date in September to renew or change your contract without any ETF changes after that is $350.
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Can they bump the ETF Fees anytime they want ? even tho I signed for a 2yr contract with a 200$ ETF ?
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It is only for a new contracts, old contracts stay the same.
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The irony here is, doesn't this material change to a core term of the original contract allow existing customers OUT of said contracts binding terms without having to pay any ETF?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/...ee-to-350-wants-to-play-with-t/#disqus_thread
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If that's accurate, than there is no alteration to existing contracts and you cant use it to get out. Although, who would want to leave Sprint now anyway? Especially us SERO folks.
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The irony here is, doesn't this material change to a core term of the original contract allow existing customers OUT of said contracts binding terms without having to pay any ETF?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/...ee-to-350-wants-to-play-with-t/#disqus_thread
If that's accurate, than there is no alteration to existing contracts and you cant use it to get out. Although, who would want to leave Sprint now anyway? Especially us SERO folks.
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Agreed, I'm SERO. Got 2 lines, and can add more if I want.
Well they have to start somewhere specially iPhone is going to sprint. I'm pretty sure sprint has been keep in eye on Verizon when they received the iPhone and what are the downfalls. It's all about data speed here if iPhone has 4G capabilities.
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I just wish their data speeds would get better. But the alternative to that is Verizon which is like 1/3 more in price and capped data. What good is having 4328907540913409843 mbps download speeds if you can only use 2 gigs of it per month?
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Take heart! Sprint has a large strategy meeting October 7th that's supposed to reveal significant 4G plans.
Hopefully it's: "You know those multi-cast towers we've been developing? Yeah, every tower that you could get 3G on before now has 4G enabled.... NOW!"
Like this morning, I tested our 4G in our area and this what I got. Download 9.87 mbps and upload 3.65 mbps. That's faster than my home internet
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had sprint since 2001, onlly gonna effect you if you plan on back out of your contract early, i see no need to, i extend my contract all the time because they keep giving me bonuses to do so
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Take heart! Sprint has a large strategy meeting October 7th that's supposed to reveal significant 4G plans.
Hopefully it's: "You know those multi-cast towers we've been developing? Yeah, every tower that you could get 3G on before now has 4G enabled.... NOW!"
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I heard that, I hope it's big news that actually affects my service in my area. I would love to have 4G. I've only connected to 4G like 4 times since I first got my OG EVO back in may of 2010. Closest places that have 4G are Charlotte and Atlanta.
Anyone notice all the companies double the ETF right before releasing the iphone?
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Anyone notice all the companies double the ETF right before releasing the iphone?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Apple was the only reason for ETF's going up on the carriers that have the iPhone.
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So, Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint was asked some pretty upfront questions about Data caps and it's competitors who all seem to be using tiered data plans now.
his full answer here at Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/dan-hesse-sprints-not-following-virgins-tiered-data-movement/
This gist: As of right now, the fact that they are testing Data Caps on Virgin (uses Sprint towers) is in no way a sign that it will come to Sprint.
He does go on to state that going to a tiered system may be needed at some point in the future. (couple years out? said by Engadget.)
What are your thoughts? I love unlimited data. I doubt I use over 2GB right now, but with Netflix budding and Google Music about to open up to the masses, and Spotify reaching the states. who the hell knows anymore.
It doesnt really make a difference to me,im on wifi 90% of the time.
Could care less my signal sucks so bad I use wifi 99% of the time . Don't play around at work or driving and already got gps
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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If Sprint exists as is but has to go to tiered plans I would not expect them to cost nearly as much as Verizon's or EVERYONE would jump ship. Sprint knows this. I wouldn't worry about it. As long as Sprint is the little guy they will offer something to positively differentiate themselves from the pack. ATT has the best speed, Verizon has the best coverage, Sprint has the best price. Unless Sprint can capture either (or both) of those two factors the only option they have is price as 'features' don't exist to differentiate in the post-smartphone world.
...and if Sprint does capture either or both of those elements then prices can and would go up as people flock to Sprint...then they aren't the underdog anymore, then you go to who is....or move to who has what you want the most.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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Honestly I would go back to tmobile or ATT if they had 4G here or to Verizon for that matter...
People complained about the phone selection sucks at Verizon and they didn't have dual core phones right away but **** look at sprint it took them almost 3 months to get a dual core phone after ATT and tmobile got theirs
I hate the thought of buying anything named "droid" but hey its my money I'm spending in the end... And sprint sucks balls in my town of 78k people..... And there isn't even a service center if i did have problems with my phone within 100 miles of me
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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I'm fortunate. I have good 4G service nearly everywhere in my city/state. So, this is going to effect me if they push to a tiered system
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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Oh may god. I remember actually thinking about getting a "surferboard" but my old Nokia phone because I got no signal where I lived. a 100 dollar attachment that allowed the phone to get analog signal, drained battery, and cost ridiculous roaming fees
I have broken 2 gigs twice in the year I've been on Sprint.
Amazon had a podcast app for free a couple of weeks ago. Then I started listening to The Regular Guys out of Atlanta. Podcasts will chew thru the data. A couple hundred megs a day listening to 3 hours of podcasts. Last billing cycle I broke 2 gigs. And the show is a riot. I litterally LOL in my cube.
I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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That 5g cap is going to cost you now a days
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Lmfao I dunno but I just came over from tmobile to sprint and I had 5GB on each phone each month... They ended up letting me out of the contract early with no ETF because I was throttled for 3 month straight. And i got to sell the phones I had for profit
Well more than what I paid for them....
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why are you guys tripping out. You will be locked in regardless. Verizon still is letting their unlimited 3g customers keep unlimited 4g if they get a 4g plan, and as long as they stay with verizon they keep unlimited. ATT allowed all people to renew their contract and keep unlimited even after their contract was over.
So after sprint being one of the lowest ETF for 200$ it looks like they might changed that next month , what you guys think ?
http://thedroidguy.com/2011/08/sprint-raising-etfs-just-in-time-for-galaxy-s-ii/
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Good for Sprint.
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I wouldn't blame them but $600 for u used EVO? I was lucky to get three hundred with extras out the nose
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I wouldn't blame them but $600 for u used EVO? I was lucky to get three hundred with extras out the nose
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I saw a nice EVO 4G in my area with several TPU cases and extended batteries for $300 obo, its tempting to grab it.
As for the OP, I assume its a sign of the economy and people not paying their bills.
I thought the government capped early termination fees last year. I don't know what it was capped at, so maybe it doesn't apply...
I got my 3d by adding a new line and trading in my shift at radio shack. Had the line put on seasonal hold and someone ducked up and removed it off my account lol. No eft for me lol
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I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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Ya know!!!
This ain't Canada! We are an unlimited country!!!
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Maybe by raising the ETF, they will reduce their losses regarding those that are taking advantage of the system. Hopefully, they'll pass some of those savings onto us or invest them into their network infrastructure. I was hoping that they'd upgrade their infrastructure with the $10 per month premium data fees but haven't seen it in my area.
My girlfriend got the HTC Hero less than a month before it was discontinued. There have been some updates that have bogged her phone down fiercely. Especially the newer updates to google maps. Her navigation wouldn't last more than a few minutes before FC'n. I was able to cancel her contract and get her a new phone for a reasonable amount of cash.
I would hope that they do not slap a static higher ETF on every phone and instead look at each phone individually. It wouldn't have been reasonable for her to have had anything more than a $200 ETF on her phone. Although I'm surprised that our Evo 3D's don't have a higher ETF and wouldn't be upset if they were.
The 30 day sprint guarantee is a great program and should be adequate time to know whether you want to be locked into a contract with them or not so the ETF is usually a non-issue with typical subscribers.
And as for not caring what the ETF is... I guess you guys weren't with AT&T when they got the Iphone. I was locked in my contract for another year and my bandwidth was horrid. It wasn't until Verizon got the iphone that they bothered to upgrade their network with all that iphone money they had been collecting for years. You never know how sprint service in your area may change in the future.
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mazook98 said:
I wouldn't care if Sprints ETF was $5000.
It wouldn't matter, because I'm not leaving Sprint, solely because of the unlimited data plan. If I were with a different carrier and had to actually PAY EXTRA for all those GeeBees???......
I would be one broke-ass b%tch.
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Fa sho
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techspec06 said:
Maybe by raising the ETF, they will reduce their losses regarding those that are taking advantage of the system. Hopefully, they'll pass some of those savings onto us or invest them into their network infrastructure. I was hoping that they'd upgrade their infrastructure with the $10 per month premium data fees but haven't seen it in my area.
My girlfriend got the HTC Hero less than a month before it was discontinued. There have been some updates that have bogged her phone down fiercely. Especially the newer updates to google maps. Her navigation wouldn't last more than a few minutes before FC'n. I was able to cancel her contract and get her a new phone for a reasonable amount of cash.
I would hope that they do not slap a static higher ETF on every phone and instead look at each phone individually. It wouldn't have been reasonable for her to have had anything more than a $200 ETF on her phone. Although I'm surprised that our Evo 3D's don't have a higher ETF and wouldn't be upset if they were.
The 30 day sprint guarantee is a great program and should be adequate time to know whether you want to be locked into a contract with them or not so the ETF is usually a non-issue with typical subscribers.
And as for not caring what the ETF is... I guess you guys weren't with AT&T when they got the Iphone. I was locked in my contract for another year and my bandwidth was horrid. It wasn't until Verizon got the iphone that they bothered to upgrade their network with all that iphone money they had been collecting for years. You never know how sprint service in your area may change in the future.
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I believe its going to be 350 for smart phones and 200 on regular ones.
Maybe prepping for an iPhone 5 release?
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First this would not affect us who have contracts already only new ones. Also, who cares? Sprint has the best prices in the u.s. right now. If you want to get out of your contract etf free there are a couple threads already aboiut that topic.
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I believe its going to be 350 for smart phones and 200 on regular ones.
Maybe prepping for an iPhone 5 release?
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If this is true, it is likely to be put in place to lock in those users who switch to Sprint for the iPhone 5 + unlimited (and slow) data.
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* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
Unfortunately, it appears to me like they are cutting costs for the purpose of making themselves more attractive to potential buyers.
i went to at&t and can't be happier speeds are great an so is the call quality . and my plans saves me 60 a month
2 gig cap sure but im ok with that
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Possibly. They need to stop sponsoring every event in sight and fix their network.
While driving home from Lake Tahoe, though NV this Summer, I drove by some raceway outside of Carson City 50 miles with Sprint signs plastered all over it...do you think I even had service there? No.
its all the iphone 5 fault lol
I came to Sprint last year for the Evo 4G and the fact they had a lot of benefits...the same benefits they seem to be scrapping now.
I'll wait a few months to see how things pan out, but I think they really to stop getting rid of the good things that seperate them from AT&T and Verizon, especially being that the data service is becoming inconsistant.
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its all the iphone 5 fault lol
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Well, yeah, it is, but that's what I'm getting this next time around...but I'm to the point where I'm willing to pay $40 more a month for data speeds that are actually usable, so I might as well switch to ATT or VZ, since Sprint no longer offers any incentives to stick around.
Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Strange; I think that actually increased about 2 weeks ago, but it used to only be $14 or $21...I forget. They'll usually take it off if you call in, or att/vz do.
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Strange I switched to Sprint 2 months ago and my activation fee was 36 dollars, every other company always waived it because I'm in the military. I find it strange because you're telling me it changed in the past week, did I just get shafted?
Edit: I didn't mind paying activation fee seeing as how they saved me about 70 dollars on my plan.
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Is 36$ for a new line and 18$ for adding a line the one the changed was 18$- to 36$ for upgrading a line, which is crazy imo ,anyways so far I don't get amazing speeds but there ok now back in March I had Verizon for 5 months it was good and all but Damn Bill was half of what I pay for 4ines plus limmited callls
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Is 36$ for a new line and 18$ for adding a line the one the changed was 18$- to 36$ for upgrading a line, which is crazy imo ,anyways so far I don't get amazing speeds but there ok now back in March I had Verizon for 5 months it was good and all but Damn Bill was half of what I pay for 4ines plus limmited callls
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Yea I was paying 180 for 2 lines with Verizon and i only had 700 minutes between us and unlimited text and data which is ridiculous
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* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
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I agree that all the changes suck really bad for us. I don't understand why wireless carriers discourage users from upgrading their cell phones every year If cell phone manufacturers are going to be making new, top-of-the-line phones every 6 months, then what purpose does it serve to restrict a customer from upgrading? In regards to your comment about wimax being scrapped, I live in Arizona, where there is practically no 4G service in major cities, including Phoenix (6 towers total). I have complained almost non-stop to Sprint about their lack of 4G coverage in Arizona, and to my shock they are actually turning on more towers in the Phoenix area. At the start of 2011 there were only 2 towers in Phoenix. So, although the wimax rollout has slowed down significantly, Sprint and Clear are still turning on 4G wimax in markets that desperately need it.
How many forums are you going to repost this in? Just post it on sprints forums ffs
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well every good thing as we all know must come to an end at some point. Although im not dead set on changing carriers just because of this, i will see how things pan out with the 1x and 3g upgrades and how the iphone affects data bandwidth availability. Yes most r speculating that it will kill the network but only time will truly tell. As for wimax, most of the early promoters of 4g expected that lte was gonna be dominant in the end and good for sprint that it's basically just a base station software update. Yea sucks for wimax phone owners but hey it is wat it is... in my opinion, i don't expect any companies that i pay for a service to give me anything above and beyond what im actually paying for which is just the service. If they do that's an attractive bonus but i expect that it will prolly cease to exist one day. Sprint doesn't have to give us unlimited data but they choose to at the moment to attract more subscribers. However if that prospect becomes to costly at the demise of their network from overloads then they will remove that option plain and simple. Business is business at the end of the day and money talks.
Its cute that you think data throttling is next up when its already happening. hurrdurrr
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Its cute that you think data throttling is next up when its already happening. hurrdurrr
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I can assure you it's not. My Speeds have been going up constantly (see my sig) & I chew through data.
Also the one of the 2 largest points behind the shifts is to "keep" it that way.
They mentioned that.
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.php
When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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Even during the switch (if/when they switch), Wimax will still be available through Sprint. They aren't going to deactivate it.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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By the time that rolls out I am pretty confident another evo will be out.
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When Sprint switches to LTE and i can no longer use my EVO 3d for 4g I wonder if they will take off the extra charge.
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And the extra charge isn't for 4g, its getting really annoying still seeing people complain about a "4g charge" that doesn't exist and that they knowingly accepted
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Browsing other forum.. Thought I would share. Either you sign it or you don't. Not here to debate the pros and cons of the situation. Or "abuse" of the unlimited data plan, or if we're making Verizon lose money or not. Enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26209945#post26209945
I thought Verizon came out saying this is not the case for grandfather upgrades?
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Only if you purchase a device at full cost and are not going from 3G -> 4G.
If you currently have 4G, upgrade now.
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Only if you purchase a device at full cost and are not going from 3G -> 4G.
If you currently have 4G, upgrade now.
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Wait I had 3G unlimited then my free upgrade was due so I got my Rezound 4G and was told I am being grandfatherd in to 4G unlimited. Your telling I am loosing it? If that's the case goodbye Verizon.
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Wait I had 3G unlimited then my free upgrade was due so I got my Rezound 4G and was told I am being grandfatherd in to 4G unlimited. Your telling I am loosing it? If that's the case goodbye Verizon.
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After the cutoff date, if you upgrade, you'll lose it. We don't know when the cutoff date is.
Signed it...
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Signed.
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signed.
Signed.
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I signed it even though they said they would only kill grandfathered data plans after your contract is done and you got a subsidized phone. I think I'm going to pay full price for my next phone so I can keep my unlimited data and I can upgrade my phone whenever the hell I want to.
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brando56894 said:
I signed it even though they said they would only kill grandfathered data plans after your contract is done and you got a subsidized phone. I think I'm going to pay full price for my next phone so I can keep my unlimited data and I can upgrade my phone whenever the hell I want to.
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That isn't acceptable to a lot of us. I certainly could not have afforded the $650 pricetag for the Rezound when I got mine in Dec. The only reason I'm on this phone is because of the subsidized upgrade price.
Wait a couple of months then get it on swappa or craigslist. That is what I am going to do.
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That isn't acceptable to a lot of us. I certainly could not have afforded the $650 pricetag for the Rezound when I got mine in Dec. The only reason I'm on this phone is because of the subsidized upgrade price.
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This.
When my contract expires, I'm gone from Verizon unless their plans drop in price.
I am a bit confused here. I admit I am bit thick headed sometimes but I called Verizon and they are telling me that I will have unlimited as long as I have a contract with them and even upgrading my phone they will never take my unlimited plan no matter if its 4g or 5g
I say call Verizon and get it from the horses mouth.
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I am a bit confused here. I admit I am bit thick headed sometimes but I called Verizon and they are telling me that I will have unlimited as long as I have a contract with them and will never take my unlimited plan no matter if its 4g or 5g
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That is because CSR's are like used car salesmen, they tell you what you want to hear. Not really lying to you but definitely not telling you the whole truth. Sometimes it because they just want to keep your business. Alot of the time it is because they are to stupid to know exactly what is going on. If you don't believe me, go into any Verizon Wireless corporate store and ask them were the antennas are for the Rezound. I'd go paychecks with you that 9 times out of 10 they will tell you they are inside of the phone.
Ok so this is how it sits as of right now, you have a few options:
1. If you are on a 3g device with unlimited data you can keep it after the deadline. If you want to upgrade to a new phone but want to keep your unlimited 3g data, you must buy the phone at full price.
2. if you did what most of us did and went from unlimited 3g to a new unlimited 3g/4g phone. you get to keep it till your contract is up. when it is up, and want to get a new phone and still have the unlimited data you must buy a new phone at full retail.
as of right now. we aren't hurting there business having the unlimited plan nor will they just straight take it away from us. the way they will force us off of the unlimited plans we have is to make us pay full price for a new phone when its time because they aren't stupid and know we the consumer will always be looking for the next best thing.
Looks like I'll be buying used phones off of craigslist once I'm tired of this phone. That is, unless the deadline is further out than my updgrade date.
for me. sprint is just as good as VZW where i live / work. so if i cant keep it im out.
*sigh* Hasn't been the best week for me and big red. In a heated moment of passion I decided to damn the man and order an unlocked GSM Gnex and opt for the $30 5gig data plan on Tmobile HSPA+... joke was on me because upon further analysis of their coverage map, and daily testing, I have come to realize that in a majority of places I go with my phone I would only have 2G coverage.... So having wasted the $30 and now a %15 restocking fee from google, I sit anxiously waiting for Verizon to announce WHEN the cutoff is.
Remember last summer? They eventually announced the exact day in July that people had to get a new contract with unlimited data, I had not paid any atention at the time because I was mid contract with a Droid2. I logged on tonight to check my account with Verizon again, and noticed that both my and my wife's phone on a family plan, each having $29.99 unlimited data plans, are due for an upgrade on June 30 (which I knew)... however my wife's LG Ally is now eligible for a subsidized upgrade NOW, a full month+ ahead of time?? I cautiously added the upgrade to my cart, and was prompted with the plan changes menu, where it still showed the phone as having $29.99 unlimited data, with a note that once that option was changed it could not be changed back...
Has anyone else seen this as well? So clearly we can indeed still upgrade from 3G to 4G at a subsidized price and keep unlimited data? Or at the very least until they announce the cutoff date.
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Has anyone else seen this as well? So clearly we can indeed still upgrade from 3G to 4G at a subsidized price and keep unlimited data? Or at the very least until they announce the cutoff date.
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Until the cutoff date. And we don't know when that is, sadly.
So there's been a rumor going around that is with unlimited data will be pushed into the share all crap April 2013
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So there's been a rumor going around that is with unlimited data will be pushed into the share all crap April 2013
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probably not true, but i'll jump ship to sprint if that happens
I have nobody to share my data with lol
I'm still on contract till 11/13 . But yeah I can totally see myself sharing data with myself. Sounds legit!:good:
If that does happen, they have to let us out with no ETF. More likely, they'll just stop letting people keep it when their contract expires or when they renew, even if they pay full retail for a phone. They stand to lose an awful lot of customers if they were to just yank it from everybody that still has it, not to mention the internet and media backlash. Then again, it's just that: a rumor.
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Then again, it's just that: a rumor.
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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Even if it is true, April, 2013 isn't all that soon. But the Verizon CFO hasn't blabbed about it so it can't be true.
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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If they just change your data plan during your contract.. Hello cancellation w/ no ETF!
I'll tell you someone's who getting out of his contract for free if that happens.
Me.
I'm supposed to have unlimited until January of 2014.
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If they just change your data plan during your contract.. Hello cancellation w/ no ETF!
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That's exactly what I said. And not only that line but every line on your account can cancel if they force them into a shared plan since it affects every line. But I seriously doubt they will just yank them. They have millions of customers with grandfathered plans and millions of those customers will just pack up their phones and leave if that happens. Overnight they could shrink to the number 2 service provider. I'm not saying they'll let us keep our data plans forever, but they're not going to yank everybody at once either because it doesn't make a bit of business sense. It makes a ton more business sense to just let contracts run out and in less than 2 years they won't have any grandfathered subscribers. They may not be making as much money off of people with unlimited data plans but I'm sure that the vast majority of them are still profitable customers and therefore it's better to hang on to them.
To the people that say it's going to happen soon, proof or GTFO.
To reiterate what others have said. I don't think they can just do that, without the contract becoming null and void, if that is the case, then its a breech of contact on their part. They would have to let us out of the contract withput paying ETFs.
My contract is up Nov 2013 and I was told as long as I don't upgrade then I will.be fine.
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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But April 13 is a long way off. The networks or even companies can shift. Remember there for like 2 years every phone company either sold or bought each other out? In the next year I see companies merging to combat Verizon and not to mention Google's allegedly planned network.
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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Not that I'm leaving but sprint has lte where I live and so does at&t. If Verizon forces me off unlimited, then I would have to weigh my options.
Doubt we would hear anything about that until closer to next summer.
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I am starting to think about Tmo $30 monthly plan. Only 100 minutes, but who cares with groove ip and Google voice. Unlimited data, 4G speed for first 5 gigs. Order a sim for $1 and flash a gsm rom and I am half the price I am paying now.
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damn, if verizons 3g network is as slow and ****ty as it is where i am, i can only imagine how bad sprint etc are...then again, verizons is pretty awful, and i get like full service with under 1mbps download lol
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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So, ICS for the Rezound was a rumor? Because that hasn't happened?
Oh Wait, though, you might be right. Anything to boost profits will happen, so let's see... ICS OTA for the Rezound makes no money for Verizon (Except back when we were promised it and people bought the phones based on that promise. Shared data plan makes astronomical profits for Verizon, so, likely to happen.
UGH. When will the day everyone would be willing to band together and call Verizon and say "Cancel my contract for your lack of commitment and services and promises for updates." The only action that would ever change Verizon's mind on doing what they do. It all comes back to the idea that Verizon has no incentive to give back what they've took and to make ridiculous plans. People continue to buy, buy, buy their phones and sign contracts.
In the end, it's not Verizon's fault. It's the fault of American Greed. no one does anything about it, so companies, like Verizon, continue to play the game and profit off the lack of revolt for practices.
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disclaimer: this was not any sort of personal attack of any comments quoted, or by any persons making such comments. It was a perfect statement to make my point. My opinions are those of my own and may not reflect those of others.
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damn, if verizons 3g network is as slow and ****ty as it is where i am, i can only imagine how bad sprint etc are...then again, verizons is pretty awful, and i get like full service with under 1mbps download lol
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Sprints 3G was around 56k or less. My old dial up modem would have kicked its ass.
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Bstrong9211 said:
But April 13 is a long way off. The networks or even companies can shift. Remember there for like 2 years every phone company either sold or bought each other out? In the next year I see companies merging to combat Verizon and not to mention Google's allegedly planned network.
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Its tough out there I joked that my cell bill is like a car payment. Really you could, you could lease a car for what cell phones cost.
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UGH. When will the day everyone would be willing to band together and call Verizon and say "Cancel my contract for your lack of commitment and services and promises for updates." The only action that would ever change Verizon's mind on doing what they do. It all comes back to the idea that Verizon has no incentive to give back what they've took and to make ridiculous plans. People continue to buy, buy, buy their phones and sign contracts.
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When more carriers become available more widespread in areas . The only reliable coverage I get in South Dakota where I live and travel to visit back home, is Verizon. Sprint / AT&T are spotty. T-Mobile doesn't exist.
When T-Mobile or Sprint finishes rolling out their LTE networks, will the Rezound be capable of running on either of them?