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Just wondering something here. How many devices do you think Verizon is having to replace/refund/take back for light leakage, dust under the screen, broken volume rockers, sunk power buttons, etc etc etc? How much money is Verizon losing over replacements getting swapped, possibly running out of stock for new customers, and losing business because people get sick of trying to find one? Will it get to a point where vzw starts taking the issue up with HTC for loss of revenue? Or am I just thinking too much about it? I've personally swapped 2 devices. And do you think HTC will ever clean up their manufacturing so we don't keep having to accept devices with the least fault simply because a replacement might have worse problems?
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Honestly, this isn't anything new. HTC had this same issue with the EVO. Apple has had it with the iPhone, iPad and iPad2. Those are just the ones I've had personal relations with as I had the EVO, wife had the original iPad, and my niece has the iPad2. My coworkers had some of the issues you listed with their Droids. Nothing has changed and in my opinion, the profits companies make isn't comparable to what you think is a loss. Most consumers don't notice or care about the issue. If they do, their returned device gets sold, or given away, again as a refurbished phone.
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Yeah. I guess you're right. Its just unfortunate that it has come down to this. Do the evos still have the issues even brand new ones?
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The only issue I've noticed is a sunk power button. Which I don't mind since it makes it tougher to accidentally bump it while in the pocket. Plus my case helps too.
Hopefully it won't sink to the point it stops working.
The same day HTC rails on Verizon for crippling their operating system with bloatware...
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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but most of these "issues" that people have been having are wayyyyy over blown. I mean light leakage? Really? people have nothing better to do than notice a tiny bit of light leakage? Yes, mine has it too, but I would have never noticed it if someone else on here hadn't mentioned it. Coming from a picky person, I don't say this lightly. But most of the things that people are whining about happen to just about every manufacturer of electronic devices.If you want build quality then find someone to build a 2k device. This is merely a situation of you get what you pay for. Personally, I love my phone, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I've had moto's, and nokias before. Their build quality is no better than HTC(actually Moto is much worse.). Last, paying attention to build quality issues on a message board is the same as working in a car dealer for brand X and saying that all brand X cars sucks because all you have are problems coming in on those cars. We are a very small subset of phone buyers and we will notice problems that MOST people won't.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but most of these "issues" that people have been having are wayyyyy over blown. I mean light leakage? Really? people have nothing better to do than notice a tiny bit of light leakage? Yes, mine has it too, but I would have never noticed it if someone else on here hadn't mentioned it. Coming from a picky person, I don't say this lightly. But most of the things that people are whining about happen to just about every manufacturer of electronic devices.If you want build quality then find someone to build a 2k device. This is merely a situation of you get what you pay for. Personally, I love my phone, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I've had moto's, and nokias before. Their build quality is no better than HTC(actually Moto is much worse.). Last, paying attention to build quality issues on a message board is the same as working in a car dealer for brand X and saying that all brand X cars sucks because all you have are problems coming in on those cars. We are a very small subset of phone buyers and we will notice problems that MOST people won't.
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Agreed 100%
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I have gotten a Thunderbolt with a blown out speaker and crooked kickstand and another with major light leakage. It was so bad it looked like there were 2 leds on the bottom of the soft buttons under the buttons. When trying to use your phone in the dark it is not acceptable and I don't blame people for being upset. If im going to shell out $600 or sign a contract for something it better not be flawed out of the box.
My phone is perfect. I might have a sunk power button but it was like that from the start so its all I knew!
Love this phone.
Not the best, but not bad
I understand that everyone wants their new $200+ phones to have been constructed to a dimension accuracy of a micron, but I guess its inevitable given the mass production process... I personally have really bad light leakage, but it doesn't really affect daily use so why make a big fuss over it? At least verizon is replacing them and not blaming us for "holding it wrong." Cough. Cough.
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I understand that everyone wants their new $200+ phones to have been constructed to a dimension accuracy of a micron, but I guess its inevitable given the mass production process... I personally have really bad light leakage, but it doesn't really affect daily use so why make a big fuss over it? At least verizon is replacing them and not blaming us for "holding it wrong." Cough. Cough.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but most of these "issues" that people have been having are wayyyyy over blown. I mean light leakage? Really? people have nothing better to do than notice a tiny bit of light leakage? Yes, mine has it too, but I would have never noticed it if someone else on here hadn't mentioned it. Coming from a picky person, I don't say this lightly. But most of the things that people are whining about happen to just about every manufacturer of electronic devices.If you want build quality then find someone to build a 2k device. This is merely a situation of you get what you pay for. Personally, I love my phone, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I've had moto's, and nokias before. Their build quality is no better than HTC(actually Moto is much worse.). Last, paying attention to build quality issues on a message board is the same as working in a car dealer for brand X and saying that all brand X cars sucks because all you have are problems coming in on those cars. We are a very small subset of phone buyers and we will notice problems that MOST people won't.
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My first thunderbolt, the light leakage, was so bad you could see a steady line of light pouring out, forming a giant U from the bottom of the left side of the LCD, going all the way around to the bottom of the right side of the LCD, where the glass meets the bezel. I'm sorry, but when I'm paying 250 plus dollars for a flagship device, I expect a little quality control. These aren't things we should just have to expect and live with.
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I understand that everyone wants their new $200+ phones to have been constructed to a dimension accuracy of a micron, but I guess its inevitable given the mass production process... I personally have really bad light leakage, but it doesn't really affect daily use so why make a big fuss over it? At least verizon is replacing them and not blaming us for "holding it wrong." Cough. Cough.
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Exactly. At least our phones don't suffer from the death grip.
Then return it and get another one. With any electronic device you can expect a 10% or more defective rate. I'm not saying that none of the problems exist, but they exist with all phones, not just yours. You were just one of the "unlucky" 10% or so.
I'd love to get my hands on phone like the one Daniel Ocean's team procured to give to Willy Bank in Ocean's 13! Laser etched solid gold! Except Androidified! 4.3 inch shockproof screen and armed with a magnetron!
I swapped out today. It just seems unfortunate that issues like the light leakage (it may not be a big deal to some, but others it does matter) are something that people have come to expect and seem to have to live with. Especially when it seems like its as simple as the bottom of the screen not getting sealed as well as it should. Maybe I'm just picky, but ill keep taking phones back until I'm a satisfied customer.
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I swapped out today. It just seems unfortunate that issues like the light leakage (it may not be a big deal to some, but others it does matter) are something that people have come to expect and seem to have to live with. Especially when it seems like its as simple as the bottom of the screen not getting sealed as well as it should. Maybe I'm just picky, but ill keep taking phones back until I'm a satisfied customer.
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And that's fine, the customer should be satisfied. But, there are alternative methods out there to seal the phone from that light leakage. A very small bead of black silicon should do the trick. It just seems like people expect 1000+ dollar build quality from a few hundred dollar device. If you want to take the phone back 50 times, that is your choice. However, being picky is not a build quality issue.
That is fair. But if it comes down to me having to take it upon myself to seal the screen with a small bead of silicon, that, at least in my eyes, is a fix for a build quality issue. And you are right, there is a difference between a 250 dollar device and a 1000 dollar device. However what about the folks that paid full retail for their phone? 599 I think? Are they entitled to expect more from the same device simply cause they paid more? In the end of it all, I don't feel like I should need to add a bead of silicon to seal my screen when it should have been sealed in the first place.
A friend of mine got the TB, and right away noticed multiple specs of dust under his screen. And I'm not talking about 1, maybe 2, he had a dozen or so scattered under his screen. How is that not bad QC? I know we shouldn't expect every device to be flawless and never expect issues, but some stuff just seems like it is easily fixable, stuff that the evo faced a year ago. That the Eris faced 2 years ago. And it keeps recurring in their devices.
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I paid full retail fwiw.
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I'm not saying you're wrong at all, but I still feel like some of the things we have to live with, are things that we really shouldn't need to learn to live with. But how small of a bead of silicon were you thinking? I'm not taking this one back, there are only 3 small pinholes of light on the bottom.
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With all the praise for the solid construction of this device I was surprised to hear mine rattle slightly when setting it down on the sofa.
Try holding your phone in your right hand and tap the top edge at the rear with your right index finger.
Does yours rattle too?
Dont have the device yet, but its not surprising to hear that. Although Samsung has done a wonderful job with utilizing space to the maximum, it is plastic after all.
Its surprising to me. A top end device like this should not rattle!
i'd bet any amount of money its the auto foxus mechanism in the cmaera lense. every phone i've owned does this when i set it down on a hard surface. my n1 which is solid does it as well.
only way to prove it is attempt to take a photo and shake the phone to simulate the rattle. while the camera turns on the auto focus mechanism, it is no longer "loose" and the rattle will briefly go away. once the photo is snapped the focus mechanism goes back to idle/loose position, so it will then rattle.
Only rattle i have is not a rattle just the noise of hitting hard plastic .Same noise on SGS1
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I couldn't hear anything on mine aside from the sound of my finger tapping the plastic. Could it be your back cover? It might not be fully on. I carried mine around for a few hours before realising one of the plastic clips wasn't fully in place.
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i'd bet any amount of money its the auto focus mechanism in the camaera lense.
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I think you're right. I've done what you suggested with varying success in changing the pattern of the rattle when constantly tapping the phone whilst touching different areas of the viewfinder.
Ok, maybe this is the auto focus mechanism but is it right and if it is why does it affect some and not others?
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I couldn't hear anything on mine aside from the sound of my finger tapping the plastic. Could it be your back cover? It might not be fully on. I carried mine around for a few hours before realising one of the plastic clips wasn't fully in place.
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I get the same with the back cover off. If I apply gentle pressure to the camera lens it does lessen the rattle a little.
I know we don't go round tapping our phones as a rule but I'm not happy at this.
Just checked mine and no rattle here
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I think you're right. I've done what you suggested with varying success in changing the pattern of the rattle when constantly tapping the phone whilst touching different areas of the viewfinder.
Ok, maybe this is the auto focus mechanism but is it right and if it is why does it affect some and not others?
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More than likely (as with nearly all audio / visual imperfections people find) is that some people have better eyes or ears, or a much quieter environment. Try going to downtown Tokyo and even hearing your phone, let alone a rattle. Meanwhile up in the Drakensburg mountains here, I could probably hear a stone dropping at over a kilometer away.
Less likely is that your phone has a looser camera than others - there are always imperfections in manufacturing, and you might have hit the bad end of the spectrum with the lenses being too small for the holder. If this is the case, a replacement would definitely fix it.
But more than likely it's the first case.
I appreciate what you are saying Ryan but in all honestly, I think it my case it's the second scenario.
I don't go looking for faults but I do expect a premium device with a premium price tag to feel like such. This rattle totally spoils it for me and with a few other niggling little doubts I had about the phone (mainly personal preference) this was the push I needed to prompt me to return the handset.
I won't be getting a replacement. Don't get me wrong, the phone is a very nice phone and is probably the best Android out there currently but again, personal preference and a few little niggles means it's not for me.
Great for those that have no rattle, enjoy your devices as I am sure you will.
It was fun while it lasted anyway
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I appreciate what you are saying Ryan but in all honestly, I think it my case it's the second scenario.
I don't go looking for faults but I do expect a premium device with a premium price tag to feel like such. This rattle totally spoils it for me and with a few other niggling little doubts I had about the phone (mainly personal preference) this was the push I needed to prompt me to return the handset.
I won't be getting a replacement. Don't get me wrong, the phone is a very nice phone and is probably the best Android out there currently but again, personal preference and a few little niggles means it's not for me.
Great for those that have no rattle, enjoy your devices as I am sure you will.
It was fun while it lasted anyway
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Sorry to hear about this 'rattle' on your unit...why not try at least another unit to see if that 'rattle' is also present there, especially if you think you might have gotten a defective unit...
You seem a bit to be quick at dismissing the device. Almost like you just waited to find a reason to get rid of it.
In any case, I hope I don't have that problem on mine.
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I think you're right. I've done what you suggested with varying success in changing the pattern of the rattle when constantly tapping the phone whilst touching different areas of the viewfinder.
Ok, maybe this is the auto focus mechanism but is it right and if it is why does it affect some and not others?
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well to me its normal since i've explicitly noticed the rattle in every phone i've owned, and learned a while back that it was the auto focus mechanism. so it all depends on your personal opinion i guess, but my hunch is that if exchanged every other one would do it as well. who knows though....
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You seem a bit to be quick at dismissing the device. Almost like you just waited to find a reason to get rid of it.
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No not at all. There are a few things that I don't like about the SGS2 that had me considering returning it before I even noticed the rattle - this is just what cemented my decision to return it. As said previously though, the annoyances I have with it are down to personal preference and comparison to other devices I have owned.
I'm not in the 'business' or picking faults with something for the sake of it, regardless of brand, I just want quality when I pay a quality price and to me at least this rattle makes the whole thing feel cheap.
Remember those two important words, personal and preference!
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well to me its normal since i've explicitly noticed the rattle in every phone i've owned, and learned a while back that it was the auto focus mechanism. so it all depends on your personal opinion i guess, but my hunch is that if exchanged every other one would do it as well. who knows though....
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You may well be right but it bugs the hell out of me after forking out the money, I need the device to feel solid!
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No not at all. There are a few things that I don't like about the SGS2 that had me considering returning it before I even noticed the rattle - this is just what cemented my decision to return it. As said previously though, the annoyances I have with it are down to personal preference and comparison to other devices I have owned.
I'm not in the 'business' or picking faults with something for the sake of it, regardless of brand, I just want quality when I pay a quality price and to me at least this rattle makes the whole thing feel cheap.
Remember those two important words, personal and preference!
You may well be right but it bugs the hell out of me after forking out the money, I need the device to feel solid!
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I guess I see your point.
I was hoping it was a defective unit rather than a general problem with the SGS2 since I hadn't heard about the rattling.
If I noticed something like that on mine, I probably would be bothered too.
yes i agree too. if it's a defective unit, just exchange with another one while it's still under warranty.
just keep that in mind. there are no other devices out there that can match with SGII at this point. What is your second choice, if I may ask?
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just keep that in mind. there are no other devices out there that can match with SGII at this point. What is your second choice, if I may ask?
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Good question! I don't have one. It would possibly have been the Nexus S but for the irreversible problems with freezing and lock ups - mainly for the feel / size of the handset rather than its features.
I think I will wait a while now ...
lol at this thread. Sell it, probably be worth more right now.
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Good question! I don't have one. It would possibly have been the Nexus S but for the irreversible problems with freezing and lock ups - mainly for the feel / size of the handset rather than its features.
I think I will wait a while now ...
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metal back cover will be released anytime soon. i was thinking about ordering one when i get my SGII in US.
Okay, so, I got my Photon replaced yesterday for wonky vibration, and that's working as it should. And, the phone doesn't have the same creakiness as the previous one, so that's a plus.
However, I now find that this one has a rattle that I've narrowed down to the camera. Basically, if I shake the phone (lightly) towards and away from you with the phone (not side to side, if you get my meaning), then there's a rattle in the general vicinity of the camera. The clincher is that there's an audible click when turning on the camera, and the rattle is no longer there. Turn the camera off, and the rattle returns.
Anybody else have this? I'm guessing it's the autofocus mechanism engaging, but I wouldn't have expected it to be loose when it's not turned on. And, I don't remember my previous Photon doing this.
Edit: this is not meant as a dig against the Photon. I love mine--it's arguably the best phone I've ever owned, so far. Fast, great build quality, I love the screen (easily viewed in sunlight, in particular), and decent enough battery life. I just want to know if my Photon is defective so that I can get it replaced or not--by itself, the rattle is hard to notice and not at all a problem.
Are you sure its not the battery slightly moving? I thought i had the same problem and it was the battery. Also get the clicking noise at start up. I think thats normal.?
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Nope, it's absolutely something in the camera. Here's how I know: in the process of gently shaking the phone, I can hear the rattle, turn on the camera and hear an audible click, the rattle stops, turn off the camera, and the rattle immediately starts again.
+1 confirmed. Same here
Same here! I was wondering why it did that
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Are you sure its not the battery slightly moving? I thought i had the same problem and it was the battery. Also get the clicking noise at start up. I think thats normal.?
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So, you have a click in the area of the battery when you start up? Do you get a click when you start your camera app (hold the camera to your ear and start the app)? Because if you get the click when your Photon boots, don't get it when the camera app starts, and don't have the rattle...
Hmmm.
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*facepalm*
You guys are really starting to look for anything to consider wrong with this phone is seems. That rattle noise is the lense cover inside of the phone that covers the retina, it just hangs limp when the camera is off. Once you enter a camera app and initialize the camera, it is yanked off to the side to open the retina for pictures and is held securely in place. There is nothing wrong with the phone, it is supposed to do this.
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Excuse me? I hear a noise in my phone that I've not heard on other phones I've owned, and that I don't remember hearing with my previous Photon, and so I post a question on a forum asking if others have heard it, and I get castigated for it? Seriously?
To keep the thread on track, I take it you hear the noise as well with your Photon? Because all I want to know is if it's normal for the phone (i.e., a preponderance of Photons exhibit the effect), and if it is, it's not a biggie. If it's not normal, then it could indicate a problem that could cause issues down the road.
Would it be so hard to simply answer the question asked? Yeesh.
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The question was indeed answered. Don't pay any mind to the hostility, just starting to see way too many nitpicking threads over things that aren't even really a problem with the phone. Tends to portray a bad image for people scoping out the phone as a potential upgrade.
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I updated my post to reflect how much I like my Photon. But seriously, not every concern that's raised is just a "nitpick."
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The question was indeed answered. Don't pay any mind to the hostility, just starting to see way too many nitpicking threads over things that aren't even really a problem with the phone. Tends to portray a bad image for people scoping out the phone as a potential upgrade.
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Incidentally, a note: mine is loud enough to easily hear from arm's length in a non-quiet room (i.e., in the living room while my family is yapping). Again, not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, but is yours THAT loud? Some other references to this on other forums seem to imply that it's much fainter than mine...
Would love to see that, thanks.
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Hey guys, my phones vibrate function has slowly been getting worse and worse, I can hardly feel haptic vibrate when I hit keys on the keyboard and it sounds like absolute hell when a text vibration happens or if someone is calling me. Any suggestions? I don't want to have to unroot and bring it to Sprint just yet..
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Hey guys, my phones vibrate function has slowly been getting worse and worse, I can hardly feel haptic vibrate when I hit keys on the keyboard and it sounds like absolute hell when a text vibration happens or if someone is calling me. Any suggestions? I don't want to have to unroot and bring it to Sprint just yet..
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Is it every ROM? I know for a fact that on some ROMS the haptic feedback is nearly non-existent and others its fantastic.
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Is it every ROM? I know for a fact that on some ROMS the haptic feedback is nearly non-existent and others its fantastic.
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This is good to know, I am using clean rom and am going to check with the rom handler.
I just swapped my vibration motor because it was weak. HTC shipped more than one type of motor and when I replaced the motherboard it came with the weaker type. You can tell the difference visually, the stronger motor looks like two domes (big and small) while the weaker motor has one dome and two ridges on the other side of it.
Anyways, I wanted to explain how to replace a dead/weak motor. It's really easy to do. There is no need to solder or unclip it. You can find motors by searching google. They are under $5. If u buy a motherboard it will come with one too. Use the description I gave to discern what type ur buying.
Remove your battery and sd card. Search youtube for the evo 3d teardown video. Follow the first two steps: remove the 6 screws and crack open the back wit your fingernails. Now you can see the motor.
Unplug the motor connector. Lift the motor straight up and out of it's cradle/box using ur fingernails. It's not secured in any way. It just slides out.
I think there will be a few people doing this now that we have a good ICS & sense 4 rom. The vibration on these new roms is much softer and I couldn't feel it with the weak type motor. It just made bump sound.
Damn, we should switch vibration motors. I actually prefer a softer one like how it was on the Evo 4G, but mine has insanely strong vibrations.
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Damn, we should switch vibration motors. I actually prefer a softer one like how it was on the Evo 4G, but mine has insanely strong vibrations.
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I agree with you on this. Mine was so strong it even felt like it rattled! found a solution though. Remove one of the scripts (soft or medium) from the attached zip file and place it in your init.d folder to decrease vibration. Stock value is 3000 but I adjusted the script to 2500 and it is close to perfect for me now.
Personally don't have a problem with that but good fix just in case
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Could I increase my vibratory power with this script?
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Could I increase my vibratory power with this script?
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I would think that is certainly possible. Maybe increase to 3500. Try at your own risk since this is actually increasing voltage to the motor. i have no idea what the motors top voltage is rated.
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I would think that is certainly possible. Maybe increase to 3500. Try at your own risk
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I'll try this and report back, my vibration is decent but not as strong as when I got the phone, will report back
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I agree with you on this. Mine was so strong it even felt like it rattled! found a solution though. Remove one of the scripts (soft or medium) from the attached zip file and place it in your init.d folder to decrease vibration. Stock value is 3000 but I adjusted the script to 2500 and it is close to perfect for me now.
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That's awesome didn't know this thing was around. Lol I like a stinger vibration at least for the vibrate and ring the rest could be whatever.
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As I type this I can feel a small difference in the keyboard, haptic is almost the same with 3500,which side of the phone is the vibrator on?? I'm charging and the part above the camera feels hot
Edit: just got a text, omg the vibration is strong! And I like it lol (no homo)
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As I type this I can feel a small difference in the keyboard, haptic is almost the same with 3500,which side of the phone is the vibrator on?? I'm charging and the part above the camera feels hot
Edit: just got a text, omg the vibration is strong! And I like it lol (no homo)
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Awesome. Glad it worked out for ya.
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Awesome. Glad it worked out for ya.
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Hopefully this doesn't burn out the motor... You get a thanks sir!
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faiyo said:
I just swapped my vibration motor because it was weak. HTC shipped more than one type of motor and when I replaced the motherboard it came with the weaker type. You can tell the difference visually, the stronger motor looks like two domes (big and small) while the weaker motor has one dome and two ridges on the other side of it.
Anyways, I wanted to explain how to replace a dead/weak motor. It's really easy to do. There is no need to solder or unclip it. You can find motors by searching google. They are under $5. If u buy a motherboard it will come with one too. Use the description I gave to discern what type ur buying.
Remove your battery and sd card. Search youtube for the evo 3d teardown video. Follow the first two steps: remove the 6 screws and crack open the back wit your fingernails. Now you can see the motor.
Unplug the motor connector. Lift the motor straight up and out of it's cradle/box using ur fingernails. It's not secured in any way. It just slides out.
I think there will be a few people doing this now that we have a good ICS & sense 4 rom. The vibration on these new roms is much softer and I couldn't feel it with the weak type motor. It just made bump sound.
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Dang it, I just purchased one to replace my old vibration motor (I accidentally left mine on vibrate for an alarm and slept through it for about an hour and a half) and realized it's the weaker of the two you described.
Yes or No and why. I'm on the fence right now and really wanna know what it's like walking, sitting down and operating a huge phone.
If you can operate a Note 2 you can operate this phone. It is a bit hard to use with one hand but you can with some getting used to it
I would trade 1 handed use for screen any day. How often are you stuck with just 1 hand to do everything? 3% of the time maybe?
I am very comfortable using the phone. I thought size might be a factor but it's not. It is a pleasure to use.
I would imagine using it as a small tablet is comfortable, but are you guys using it as a phone by itself? As in holding it up to your head? Or do you pair a bluetooth device to make calls?
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I would imagine using it as a small tablet is comfortable, but are you guys using it as a phone by itself? As in holding it up to your head? Or do you pair a bluetooth device to make calls?
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Yes, I use it as a phone holding it to my head. I bought a bluetooth device thinking I would use that as a handset but it remains unused.
Are there any issues with the other side hearing you? While on my note 2, if I'm not talking in normal/loud voice, the other person may complain they can't hear me very well (or maybe it's just this particular restaurant in specific). Since the XZU is so long, it'll go WAY past where your mouth is.
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Are there any issues with the other side hearing you? While on my note 2, if I'm not talking in normal/loud voice, the other person may complain they can't hear me very well (or maybe it's just this particular restaurant in specific). Since the XZU is so long, it'll go WAY past where your mouth is.
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No complaints as of yet.
I don't have the largest hands and I can type in landscape with very little effort. It is hefty, but since it's so slim, you don't really notice. I've made a few phone calls and I'll admit, it looks strange, but doesn't feel unnatural.
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No issue for me, if still comfortable for me.
I can make calls with it no problem. No need for a bluetooth device at all unless you want one.
My biggest concern actually is using the phone as a music player. The audio jack is on thw side so it might be too tight on the pants. And while driving, it might be impossible to switch between tracks with one hand lol
I wish android implemented swipe gestures on the screen to wakeup. Its almost effortless and is an elegant solution especially if your phone is idle on a table top
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kingofthebraves said:
Yes or No and why. I'm on the fence right now and really wanna know what it's like walking, sitting down and operating a huge phone.
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Coming from iPhone 5, I need some adjustment to typing on this device. However, browsing websites and reading articles from Current and Buzzfeed is great, it has that book-reading feel to it. In fact, the big ass screen makes it a pleasure.
It's easy to hold with one hand but making phone calls made me feel awkward, and a little bit embarassed.
I feel like I made the right choice to return to android with this device. I wish it has tablet capacity battery though.
kingofthebraves said:
My biggest concern actually is using the phone as a music player. The audio jack is on thw side so it might be too tight on the pants. And while driving, it might be impossible to switch between tracks with one hand lol
I wish android implemented swipe gestures on the screen to wakeup. Its almost effortless and is an elegant solution especially if your phone is idle on a table top
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The audio jack on the side is ridiculous - sony did this on XSP too (sony seems to be good at spoiling decent devices ), especially on a "smartphone" this big :silly:
I'm also getting an XZU in couple of weeks, and if using audio cable while the phone is in my pocket proved impossible, I think the workaround is using the wireless bluetooth.. Sounds like it defeat the purpose of a fully-waterproofed audio jack, but some compromise must be made, huh
First look I worry about the size, now I love the size. Inside my pocket no problem for walk, sit and run. I put my note 2 and zu together with my jean pocket or short paint is ok. No doubt.
One hand operate no problem for me. Because I m the big hand.
When incoming call also no problem, answer without bluetooth. Now I won't worry the size only how to root my device.
One more think is this device suitable for male better than female. When my wife hold it look like holding a M16.
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I found the Note 2 too awkward to use so I sent it back. If I had issues with that would this device be even worse?
I don't have the ZU yet, so I can't really give you an answer, but what didn't you like about the Note 2? Was it too big?
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LordManhattan said:
I don't have the ZU yet, so I can't really give you an answer, but what didn't you like about the Note 2? Was it too big?
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It was partly the size but more just its general handling, reaching across the screen even though I tried clustering stuff on one side of it. I had a Galaxy Note sometime prior & I got on with that reasonable well & though the Note 2 was bigger of screen I still thought I would be OK with it.
I taking out my phone from the jeans every time I get in the car.
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I can make calls with it no problem. No need for a bluetooth device at all unless you want one.
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I can see this being very difficult for my coffee/beer in one hand use :laugh: