Is anyone experiencing erratic loss of 3g over the last 48hrs? I'm on the prerooted GB leak from p3DROID with all of navendrob's most current scripts for the build.prop & init.d hack. All I've done this weekend was to load zeam launcher to test it out & freeze blur home. I've tried *228, 1&2, and *22899 with no improvement & I'm nowhere near any of the hurricane areas. Any ideas from the community? Vzw has been of little help so far.
Update: Well, looks like I have x2 #3 on its way. The tier 2 tech had me do a factory data reset from settings menu & after it powered up it got stuck trying to login to the moto server while no data signal was available. After about 5min of that with no success, she put in an order for a replacement & waived the 2day shipping fee. After I hung up, I did a battery pull-still no data, but it picked up my home wifi & I finished the setup on that. A *228-1&2, got it back on the network but I'm still not sure I trust it. I think something got corrupted in the 3g settings because before the reset it had my network listed as cdma 1rxtt; after, I have cdma evdo revA listed. I don't know if that info listing is generated by the phone settings or the network though.
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This only happens to me whenever I am at the military hospital and commissary here in KS.
garywojdan81 said:
Is anyone experiencing erratic loss of 3g over the last 48hrs? I'm on the prerooted GB leak from p3DROID with all of navendrob's most current scripts for the build.prop & init.d hack. All I've done this weekend was to load zeam launcher to test it out & freeze blur home. I've tried *228, 1&2, and *22899 with no improvement & I'm nowhere near any of the hurricane areas. Any ideas from the community? Vzw has been of little help so far.
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Keeps happening to me and I get stuck at 1x for a bit, it sucks, and I'm all the way in WI, nowhere near Irene
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On my x2 this would happen when the phone got hot, also some where in the manual it says the phone has a "cool down" mode
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This only happens to me whenever I am at the military hospital and commissary here in KS.
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damn military installations and EMSEC I get no data on any air force base ive ever been too
Sometimes when I have 1 bar signal and it goes in and out,1x to 3g. Even at times w/ better sig.
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Hello Friend Citizen! You have come to this thread because your 3g is not working correctly. You may have a 1x lock or even no data at all. It is important that you follow these steps:
1. DO NOT PANIC
2. DO NOT DECIDE TO BADMOUTH A ROM/RADIO/KERNEL ETC. (its not their fault. Honestly!)
3. Breathe.
4. See step 1.
Now that we've gone that far, let me first say that VZW is having network issues. Due to these issues, they have been causing phones in different areas and even random phones (not always your friends in the same area) to lose 3g. This is affecting the Fascinate as well as the ThunderBolt, the PALM PRE and many other verizon 3g and 4g phones.
On the offchance that it is actually a modem problem, simply backup your rom and restore to stock via odin. Test out your 3g and if it is still lost, relax and restore your rom and wait for VZW to get their act together.
You can use the DL09 package in this thread to test the stock radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044474
Probably not the correct place to post this, but great thread
yeah, mine literally went out in the last 30 minutes, tried *228 option 1 and after rebooting nothing changed....but now according to the network *228 is "not a valid number"
anyone want to conspire about how this could be a part of implementing the "if you're rooted we will deny you data access" drama that was floating around recently?
Nahh...
Double-checked with a coworker who also has a Fascinate. Bone-stock DL09 and she has no data right now, as well.
I've gone back to DL09 several time running stock, unlock, non-root...and 3G still wacked.
Let it OTA update to ED01 stock (took damn 3 hours) and still wacked
Took it to verizon store to show them a vanilla stock ED01 with 3G issue. They confirmed the hardware was hosed and will be sending me a new one.
I also went to the Verizon store an hour ago to have my phone looked at. The rep called a tech and apparently he said that my phone wasn't receiving any data from their side. So he reset my data and wamo.. pages are loading, the market works, and I'm still on dl09 modem. Going to flash EC01 and see what happens. Definintly something wrong on their side of this.
any links to the data outage information?
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I've gone back to DL09 several time running stock, unlock, non-root...and 3G still wacked.
Let it OTA update to ED01 stock (took damn 3 hours) and still wacked
Took it to verizon store to show them a vanilla stock ED01 with 3G issue. They confirmed the hardware was hosed and will be sending me a new one.
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I don't think it's the hardware, Verizon is having confirmed data issues. Their 4G network went down earlier today and all devices fell back to 3G, which is now having issues. Mine actually came back a little while ago only to disappear again....it's a flaky network at this point. The guy at the Verizon store doesn't have the ability to assure you your hardware is hosed. That was opinion.
On the phone with a tech right now. Let's see what they can do for me.
On the phone with a tech right now. Let's see what they can do for me.
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Let me know.. I'm tempted to take my device in to vzw..
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With my coworker having the same issue on her untouched DL09, tech support believes it to be a network issue.
He escalated a ticket and hopefully will call back soon.
I'm on 1x on my tunda bowl.
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just took a poll in the office out of the 5 devices I checked 2 are stuck on 1x (a fasc and a tunabolt). The other three (2 fasc and one inc) are fine.
weird how random it is... all 5 devices are rooted, rom'ed etc..
3G is starting to come back for me. Its sketchy and slow but before as soon as it would pop up if I tried to use it it would flake out. Now it works most of the time but its like its really under a heavy load.
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So I guess this is what its like to be on att with an iphone. Or maybe I am just holding my phone wrong.
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its a 4g problem which is a different spectrum than 3g i have a feeling its a rooted phone acknowledgment verizon is scanning for and then locking out data as they assume we are tethering free and taking up too much data communication ive called tech support they didnt confirm any of this however no outages in my area and have rebooted and updated settings to my device from there end so ill let ya know if it worked ... currently back to stock with froyo update that took 2 hours to download at 1x wtf... i hope im just being paranoid..
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its a 4g problem which is a different spectrum than 3g i have a feeling its a rooted phone acknowledgment verizon is scanning for and then locking out data as they assume we are tethering free and taking up too much data communication ive called tech support they didnt confirm any of this however no outages in my area and have rebooted and updated settings to my device from there end so ill let ya know if it worked ... currently back to stock with froyo update that took 2 hours to download at 1x wtf... i hope im just being paranoid..
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Where's that guy that was screaming this prediction all over android enthusiast forums everywhere? Is he taking credit? Lol
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ilprobu2 said:
its a 4g problem which is a different spectrum than 3g i have a feeling its a rooted phone acknowledgment verizon is scanning for and then locking out data as they assume we are tethering free and taking up too much data communication ive called tech support they didnt confirm any of this however no outages in my area and have rebooted and updated settings to my device from there end so ill let ya know if it worked ... currently back to stock with froyo update that took 2 hours to download at 1x wtf... i hope im just being paranoid..
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Your foil hat is crooked.
Besides that, there is not just a 4G problem. Sorry to disappoint ya.
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its a 4g problem which is a different spectrum than 3g i have a feeling its a rooted phone acknowledgment verizon is scanning for and then locking out data as they assume we are tethering free and taking up too much data communication ive called tech support they didnt confirm any of this however no outages in my area and have rebooted and updated settings to my device from there end so ill let ya know if it worked ... currently back to stock with froyo update that took 2 hours to download at 1x wtf... i hope im just being paranoid..
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no its not. its the same thing. there is no functioning 4g network in the world. the "4g" that the networks are feeding us is just a slightly increase bandwidth aloted to certian phones. 4g is a gigabit network and requires different hardware in the towers. the load of crap that the networks are shoveling as "4g" is basiclly the same as you calling your cable company and increasing your cable modem speed. they are simply increasing the landline bandwidth to allow for increased use.
the problem comes from vzw not properly anticipating bandwidth demands after "4g" was launched.
Honestly I lost my 3G while messing around in the **772. I ended up just calling tech. They had to remove what ever identifys me on there 3g network. Then reactivate.. in seconds my 3g became active.... Though the tech was confused to why I was showing me roaming.... and yes data roaming was unchecked and system select set to home... But never the less I'm good now.....
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone noticed a decrease in signal with the p3? I updated last night and noticed a slight decrease. Weather related or not idk. Just wondering
Actually thats funny, someone posted about increase in cell standby and lower battery life. Haven't noticed battery life decrease but a lot of trouble with signal. Even withput p3droid update was on ota update experiencing this. When,accessing browser or xda app or internet in general phone trys to find a signal but repeatedly switches between 3g and 1x till it finally does. Even though it shows I have couple bars still seems as if temporarly signal issue until it connects. Never noticed this on froyo and is why went with this phone, had dinc2 before this with extremely poor reception now im back to where I was. I compared dinc2 and x2 side by side and x2 kept a -10 dbm difference which it seemed better. Even trying to post these responces keep getting errors and multiple attempts in order to post because can't lock a signal.
After posting this went a checked my signal a compared to before gb. Before gb was between -88 and -90 dbm now its -96 to -100.
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Same here..previously had between -82 to -90 and minimum 3 bars in my office. As we speak its -97,one bar and fluxuating between 3g and 1x
Have you checked your data settings under wireless/networks? Make sure you're on auto a or auto b & not home only. I've had that skip around after flashing or updating firmware. *228, 1 or 2 may not hurt either.
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Same issue here. I was 4-6 points "higher" with froyo and even that was around -92 to -98. Now I'm continually on -100 to -104. I posted in another forum hoping that it wasn't just an isolated "me" issue, but I went through the data roaming check & the *228.
Beginning to think it may have been weather. Currently at-82, We shall see.
Try a PRL update, gingerbread came with a new radio. Just dial *22899
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Yried that did tem all 228 option 1and 2 then 22899. Nothing.helped other than being outside. Down in my apartment is the prob. Jave no signal there but when was on froyo wasn't as much of a prob. Was able to find the signal now it can't even though it shows I have bars and 3g. Strange!
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I have noticed a decrease in signal quality in Froyo too. I recently went from my Droid X to an X2. The signal strength in buildings and in some areas outside has been considerably less with the X2. I very often have "roaming data" issues and often have the "international roaming" popups. I live nowhere near an international boarder. It is very frustrating. I hope the signal strength doesn't get worse with the GB update.
I have done the 228 reset several times with no luck. The guys at the verizon store dont know whats going on but certainly they aren't offering any replacement of the phone.
I see a 228899 update mentioned here... what is the difference?
22899 resets and updates internet info. Atleast thats what the csr agent from verizon told me. Replacement have been the main thing i've been able to get verizon has been very helpful in that part but most devices have had same results, began to realize its not the phone it the service in my are. Some phones do pick up a better signal than others thats why kepts this after switching from incredible 2. Wasnt a big difference but enough to be able to use in home. Now though not so much even verizon suggested a network extender but I dont have broad band so no luck there. They even were willing to send me a thunderbolt but the csr tried to put it in the computer and the system wouldnt accept it. Atleast thats what she told me. Just gonna have to live with it.
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I live in a very good area and always have great signal. Never had speed issues with my Fascinate but now with the X2 lately the last couple weeks my 3G signal is all over the place. I'm on my 2nd X2 because the first one felt like it was on fire when using data. Well this one did it too. The 3G radio gets really hot when using data. Except for the last few days it doesn't do it anymore, doesn't get hot at all which is good except my data speeds are terrible the majority of the time. Now its not always bad, but 90% of the time or better its less than 0.5 mbps with 3-4 bars. When its working correctly I get 1.2-1.8 mbps in the same places like at home where I'm getting 0.5 mbps or less most of the time. Wondering if the 3G radio could have burnt itself out or is it a software issue?
It may be a VERIZON issue. Can you compare it to someone else's in the same areas?
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It may be a VERIZON issue. Can you compare it to someone else's in the same areas?
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Yeah, my wife's fascinate is fine.
Mine seems like it could cook an egg with w/ how hot it gets with heavy radio use. I had spotty speeds at one time for about 2 wks and upon calling VZW they told me it could be the 4g updates rolling out of my nearest city. They were dropping local towers to upgrade them causing my radio to lock on a tower further away. Things have been normal as of late with my speeds so maybe they were correct, for once.
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Mine was just the opposite. Spotty 3g speeds with my fascinate + the missed call thing=a move to the x2 where my data has been rock solid for the most part, especially with naven's tweaks. Do you have any apps that hijack the radio? I had root call blocker installed & its a great app for blocking unwanted calls but it has to hijack the radio at boot up to insert its script and sometimes it would take 5+ min for 3g to come on. I ultimately lost all data one day only to find that somehow my radio had been set to 1xrtt instead of 3g evdo. The only thing to fix it was a factory data reset. I've never put that app back on my phone & have never had that issue again.
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Mine was just the opposite. Spotty 3g speeds with my fascinate + the missed call thing=a move to the x2 where my data has been rock solid for the most part, especially with naven's tweaks. Do you have any apps that hijack the radio? I had root call blocker installed & its a great app for blocking unwanted calls but it has to hijack the radio at boot up to insert its script and sometimes it would take 5+ min for 3g to come on. I ultimately lost all data one day only to find that somehow my radio had been set to 1xrtt instead of 3g evdo. The only thing to fix it was a factory data reset. I've never put that app back on my phone & have never had that issue again.
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I never had a speed issue with the fascinate, my issues were missed calls and battery life. I don't believe I have anything hijacking the radio.
Well it appears to be a verizon issue as I was in a different part of town this afternoon and was consistently getting 1.3 mbps+ as I ran a speedtest several times to make sure.
Soooo that means that the tower near my house is crap for some reason right now, which is also the one I am on at work apparently because its only a couple miles from home.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Just got my Razr yesterday. YAAAY!!
I'm coming from a Droid Charge and am excited about the big step forward with the Razr. One problem I'm having, thought, is that i'm losing my data connection quite often. I was under the impression that this phone would be better at holding a signal than my Charge was, but so far its quite a bit worse.
I'm noticing that when the connection is good, the 4G icon turns blue. Then I will see it turn white, then disappear altogether. Usually a reboot fixes it for a while. Anybody else seeing this behavior?
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Dropping data as well
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Just got my Razr yesterday. YAAAY!!
I'm coming from a Droid Charge and am excited about the big step forward with the Razr. One problem I'm having, thought, is that i'm losing my data connection quite often. I was under the impression that this phone would be better at holding a signal than my Charge was, but so far its quite a bit worse.
I'm noticing that when the connection is good, the 4G icon turns blue. Then I will see it turn white, then disappear altogether. Usually a reboot fixes it for a while. Anybody else seeing this behavior?
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Blue
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No 4g in my area so I cannot verify that part but in the 28 hours I have owned my Razr it has dropped data 5 times. Toggling airplane mode seems to correct this issue but, coming from a DX that only dropped data a handful of time in a year and a half, this is a little disheartening.
That happened to me a lot a month ago... would drop data like no tomorrow ... Arctic rom fixed most of the problems...
I still have random drops where I should get data (s2 catches it fine)...
But I'm assuming until they release an updated radio... wont see any fixes
I haven't had dropped data since I've had my phone its been almost a month. I'm only on 3g.
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I get the same problem. Especially when I tether (Legally). Its to the point Im trying to get rid of the Razr. Solid built phone but from the locked bootloader to the data issues I think it might be time for me to move on.
I have yet to have this problem in my area (only 3g) but in the city about an hour away I did drop data while using 4G. While at home I also keep it in 3g only.
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I have had very similar issues. I am in a decent 4g area and have had my razor for a week now and am thinking about returning it. Its happened on both 3g and 4g. I had a rezound prior to this and never had issues like this with data dropping. I returned the rezound due to overheating and random boot looping. Not sure what to get. May look into Droid 4 but wondering about Moto. Now.
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As a person working in the telecom industry with LTE, the data drops that you mentioned happens only if the device is idle for a certain period (10 seconds) and there are more users in that cell than what it can handle..
One Cell right now can handle max 200 Connected users..if your operator is using older versions then it can be 20 even.....
The typical timeout value is set as 10 seconds..that is if the mobile unit does not do any activity , then the connection will be dropped off....
You need to remember that 4G or LTE is not like 3G which enables you to stay connected always..it is only meant for data applications and it is strictly on-demand....at least now, till Voice Over Generic LTE Access (VOLGA) is rolled out.....
Some device manufacturers mimic the presence of 4G, but displaying the LTE/4G symbol, even if it is not connected to the network. It shows the presence of the radio only......
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Actually while analyzing one major issue during a football match in US, we found out that there is too many connected users and very less amount of data....
This is not a very good implementation by Mobile Phone companies and they need to change the algo... Moto I hope has done a better job...
I got brave and jumped into the future...
4G is rocking and rolling now, and no data-drop outs all day. OTA should be coming soon.
Same for me yesterday. I am likeing At&T/s2 better and better with just about every thing. I am past my 14days, but as soon as someing comes out with unlimited LTE and Is better or as good as my s2 I will get rid of this nightmare of a phone and maybe even the big red.
P.S I know the big red has a lot of fan's like apple does, but it is what it is.
Try updating to 2.3.6, here, this has helped a lot with the updated software and radio it included. I have also experienced very good battery life.
This is a leaked update but does offer needed improvements. However, unlike the Bionic the razr able to fastboot back to factory stock and then accept OTA upgrades. So when something official, or ICS comes out no need to worry with the bootloader being locked.
Just started dropping data I think I might try the leaked update.
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Please post if you have the same issue.
Or please help me to resolve this issue.
Model: Completely stock non-rooted Razr Maxx from Verizon.
Upgrade was from 173 to 181. Happened today. Entire process was fine.
After the upgrade:
The 4G sign appeared very briefly and then disappear, and then it stuck at 3G.
My guess: so-called 4G authentication failed. So it switched to 3G by default.
Then as a result, now the phone spend all time in 3G. everything is slow.
note: I am sitting at the exact place (my office desk). same time frame.
I don't believe there is a structural change in my building or desk happened coincident with my 181 upgrade.
Thanks for any insights.
I have performed. "pull sim-card" but it did not work.
Try factory reset?
Try Motorola's 4g connectivity app.
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I got the RAZR and the radios seem like they connect worse. If these are the supposedly great radios from Motorola then I'm not impressed.
Edit: and I have Motorola's restore connectivity app.
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I have absolutely terrible signal strength and numerous data drops, especially when tethering from the stock vzw hotspot app. Flashing back to 173 as I type this. And I've been running 181 since the soak started.
Not happy at all.
I downloaded the 181 update last night and have also had a bunch of data drops today. I thought it was Juice Defender so I uninstalled it but Ive still been getting them. Ill stick it out a few more days and see how it goes
Odd, maybe it's just my area but I was pulling down 30+mbs down earlier today. No data drops either.
Been about 24 hours since I installed the update.
No problems here, i've been getting better dBm readings since the update. I'm wondering if maybe it was just one of those days for the 4G network...
As a side note, not only have my dBm readings been better, my ping/download/upload speeds are faster.
I think it happens to the areas that are "on the edge". Previously it was still tried to hanging on 4G, but now it just directly went to 3G or ... worse .. dropped and they called it "accurately reflect the signal strength" as a feature.
TO ADD ONE MORE:
This morning my Razr Maxx rebooted for no reason.
Good job Moto/Verizon. I don't know which one to thank to.
This is the first time since I bought it a few month ago.
Never rooted. Only be a normal user without any tweak.
Things I've noticed:
Positive:
1 - Fewer reboots/"sleeps of death" after the update, though they were infrequent on the previous update. (took me a minute the first time to figure out how to perform a hard reset on a phone with no removable battery)
2 - Screen doesn't seem to stay ON on its own anymore, I don't run into cycles where I have to fight it to get the screen to stay off.
Negative:
3 - Data Link does drop more frequently in "fringe" areas (I was traveling with the update and dropped data link numerous times despite it saying 3G/4G, dropped to 1x a few times but on the interstate this is expected), but it appears to be faster when it's locked on.
Neutral:
3 - Slow down / catch up when typing on keyboard in stock browser. Same as before for me.
I upgraded via OTA from the stock, rooted. Just rooted this version today.
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I upgraded via OTA from the stock, rooted. Just rooted this version today.
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What did you use? Will the Motofail utility root .181.
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Yes, motofail works great
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Yes, motofail works great
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Thanks.