I finally haz za 4gz...after the anticipated release date of late 2010 early 2011 my college's location (haven't tried at home) has 4g. Long Island, New York Suffolk county for all who dont know...
good ****!! prepare for your battery life to plummet to hell lol
the battery can get worse????
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the battery can get worse????
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lol haha right
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I finally haz za 4gz...after the anticipated release date of late 2010 early 2011 my college's location (haven't tried at home) has 4g. Long Island, New York Suffolk county for all who dont know...
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Haven't seen you in a hot minute buddy. You been alright?
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Ha that's why I have the extended battery lol
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Haven't seen you in a hot minute buddy. You been alright?
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Yeah got myself a bike and been riding around a lot, work 40 hours a week and go to school 5 days a week...times been busy lol
We have 2 Evo 3d's and 2 Evo 4g's in my household and have no 4g in our area (btw I live near the capital of NY????). I've been paying for 4g for over a year on these phones. Highway robbery.
Also a friend of mine has the thunderbolt and gets great 4g reception. What gives Sprint?
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We have 2 Evo 3d's and 2 Evo 4g's in my household and have no 4g in our area (btw I live near the capital of NY????). I've been paying for 4g for over a year on these phones. Highway robbery.
Also a friend of mine has the thunderbolt and gets great 4g reception. What gives Sprint?
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Don't mean to be "that" guy but let me start from the beginning...4g is not in every area. Progression is being made throughout the country as we speak. The 4g fee you mentioned is a smartphone fee that everyone pays. You are paying for premium data which is a mandatory add on. It is required to be a customer. It is not a 4g fee. And to top it off Verizon is not sprint. Same thing with t mobs and att...different carriers have better/worse coverage in different areas. So yes I'm sorry you have no 4g but I was, including millions of other customers, in the same boat as you. Sorry for being that "guy"
Where in Suffolk? I live in Nassau, and dont see 4G yet, but I also havent tried in weeks... hmmm
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Where in Suffolk? I live in Nassau, and dont see 4G yet, but I also havent tried in weeks... hmmm
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Well like I said in still on campus, on the shuttle bus from the parking lot to campus, for sheets and giggles I thought id flip it and check. Sure enough speediest.net 8k ...I go to stony brook university
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Well like I said in still on campus, on the shuttle bus from the parking lot to campus, for sheets and giggles I thought id flip it and check. Sure enough speediest.net 8k ...I go to stony brook university
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Thats sweet! I live in Nassau, im at work in NYC, but will ask my wife to try 4G on her evo
Troll alert!! I'm gonna be 'that OTHER guy and say, wow! It's hard for me to understand how the USA has such mediocre 4G coverage. My Canadian carrier (Rogers) has 90% of the population covered by 4G.
What really surprises me is that Rogers has accomplished this without charging any sort of premium. The ten dollar fee they're charging you seems ridiculous to me... Are they justifying this by saying it's going towards upgrading towers? Enlighten me! I'm paying the exact same price now that I was paying for my older 3G device.
The other thing is population density. Canada has a tenth of the population of our southern neighbors, spread out over a much larger land mass. This means that Canadian wireless networks have a fraction of the customer base, compared to American carriers (thus a fraction of revenue coming into their pockets to perform upgrades) Yet, as I stated earlier, they've managed to get almost the entire populated areas covered.
Where I live, I'm far from any major urban center. It's unfathomable to me that people living in the heart of New York are being left in the dust!
I'm not saying this to be an arse or to one-up you or anything like that. I'm truly sympathetic. I hope your carriers shape up and get you guys covered!
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Troll alert!! I'm gonna be 'that OTHER guy and say, wow! It's hard for me to understand how the USA has such mediocre 4G coverage. My Canadian carrier (Rogers) has 90% of the population covered by 4G.
What really surprises me is that Rogers has accomplished this without charging any sort of premium. The ten dollar fee they're charging you seems ridiculous to me... Are they justifying this by saying it's going towards upgrading towers? Enlighten me! I'm paying the exact same price now that I was paying for my older 3G device.
The other thing is population density. Canada has a tenth of the population of our southern neighbors, spread out over a much larger land mass. This means that Canadian wireless networks have a fraction of the customer base, compared to American carriers (thus a fraction of revenue coming into their pockets to perform upgrades) Yet, as I stated earlier, they've managed to get almost the entire populated areas covered.
Where I live, I'm far from any major urban center. It's unfathomable to me that people living in the heart of New York are being left in the dust!
I'm not saying this to be an arse or to one-up you or anything like that. I'm truly sympathetic. I hope your carriers shape up and get you guys covered!
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Hey I graduated from Stony Brook. They really got 4G over there now? So all the quads have it as well I presume?
****ed up that Nassau and the rest of Suffolk haven't seen anything yet and NYC is completely covered for the most part.
if htc unloads the bootlocker you can have 4gs anywhere to have root. thats why sprint doesn't wanna do that
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if htc unloads the bootlocker you can have 4gs anyway to have root. thats why sprint doesn't wanna do that
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What
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I'll second that. I have know idea what that post meant...
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Don't mean to be "that" guy but let me start from the beginning...4g is not in every area. Progression is being made throughout the country as we speak. The 4g fee you mentioned is a smartphone fee that everyone pays. You are paying for premium data which is a mandatory add on. It is required to be a customer. It is not a 4g fee. And to top it off Verizon is not sprint. Same thing with t mobs and att...different carriers have better/worse coverage in different areas. So yes I'm sorry you have no 4g but I was, including millions of other customers, in the same boat as you. Sorry for being that "guy"
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If I remember correctly it was started with the original Evo. Other smartphones (my Touch Pro 2, and the Intrepid and Centro we had on our plan) didn't pay the premium. Then there were rumblings of a class action lawsuit because Sprint was charging $10 a month for a service that only a fraction of their customers could get. So then Sprint changed it to all smartphones, but we were grandfathered in on our phones until we changed to Android.
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If I remember correctly it was started with the original Evo. Other smartphones (my Touch Pro 2, and the Intrepid and Centro we had on our plan) didn't pay the premium. Then there were rumblings of a class action lawsuit because Sprint was charging $10 a month for a service that only a fraction of their customers could get. So then Sprint changed it to all smartphones, but we were grandfathered in on our phones until we changed to Android.
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Right on, thanks for backing me up, yeah bro I was on the shuttle bus from the south p lot and said what the he'll let me try, bam 4g tower and 8 mb service..., and that root post...well let's pretend who never even mentioned anything lol
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/
Android is about to become the "secondary" phone on Sprints networks. Looking for a new carrier?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287619
I swear these threads all pop up at the same time... oh well, mods delete if you think this is a repost.....
Its simple...
iPhone sells ridiculous amounts.
The End.
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Its simple...
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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I know this comment will get a lot of hate, but the iPhone is probably the best smartphone for the average user.
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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Because people that don't want to understand how a phone works like simplicity and controlled environments. It's kinda like this....have you ever read the book fahrenheit 451? People enjoy being herded as long as they are getting what they believe they want and don't have to work to get it.
If you haven't read the book I highly suggest you do.
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It's true. It's dumbed down.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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It's true. It's dumbed down.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Exactly. People like us aren't your everyday user. The average consumer sees what their friend, neighbors, cousin has and likes it and gets it. It's simple and to the point. People like ease of use, and lets be honest, it's easy to use and dumbed down for the average consumer, like Chris just said. Not to mention every frackin' store you go to has accessories for it.
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because Verizon really brought the "game changer" to apple. In all honesty it barely made a dent into its customer base. It moved a few more phones for Verizon/Apple. I honestly doubt that it will be the most amazing thing sprint will have gained, as much as apple hopes it to be. Not to mention ICS is around the corner, sprint has a dang good IP of android phones available and coming soon. Apple is just hitting that non innovating road block and we will see more and more kangs from android in there software and there bringing massive changes to the phone as we know it has already been done by bits and pieces from every manufacturer including itself. So tomorrows announcement will be just another day in the books filled with apple fanboism, upgraded hardware, a software update full of kang, and nothing more exciting then that.
Its all in retrospec to the user. I'm android. And will be always. Amen. nothing more thrilling to see a beautiful os, android. Not to mention it's source built roms like CM/MIUI. Apple gets?
Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
All I have to say is they better start putting some money into the network or I'm leaving for Verizon.
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i really doubt there will be a wimax iphone.. Sprint wimax is dead in the water, they are focusing on their LTE comeing early next year.. They made a huge mistake with Clear for wimax and just signed a deal with LightSquared for their wimax.. So i dont see any reason they would still contine to make wimax phones for a network that has totaly stalled.
Android is the marketshare leader for phones. Apple doesnt sell alot, they just sell alot of one model. Android is about choices, You can buy cheap ones or nice ones. Apple makes you buy their newest, so of course they will dell more than any other phone model.
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Android is the marketshare leader for phones. Apple doesnt sell alot, they just sell alot of one model. Android is about choices, You can buy cheap ones or nice ones. Apple makes you buy their newest, so of course they will dell more than any other phone model.
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Does the mean iPhone sells a lot cause is only one phone? Mm well let ne tell you they do sell a lot it hasnt been one month the US top smartphone is iPhone 4 and the second one guess what ? IPhone 3GS, I sold my iphone last week and i hope sprint gets it cause I do not want to open another line to try it
Android phones activation are raising up sky high only cause metro pcs and cricket got them now and most phones are 200$ out of contract, so while a iPhone has top sales android sales like 40%-50% top android phones (SGS 2 , EVO 3d , Droid charged ,etc ) that can do what an iphone do (like video chat and play games without lag ) and the rest of it is because they just affordable phones
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I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G, so the last thing I want is an influx of Sprint iPhone users hogging up my 4G bandwidth. I don't even want an influx of iPhone users hogging up my 3G bandwidth. Remember how ****ty Sprint's network got when the OG Evo started flying off of the shelves?
I agree with zone23: Invest in improving the network.....NOT in bogging it down by adding more users without increasing capacity.
My $0.02.
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I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G, so the last thing I want is an influx of Sprint iPhone users hogging up my 4G bandwidth. I don't even want an influx of iPhone users hogging up my 3G bandwidth. Remember how ****ty Sprint's network got when the OG Evo started flying off of the shelves?
I agree with zone23: Invest in improving the network.....NOT in bogging it down by adding more users without increasing capacity.
My $0.02.
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They're in a position to apply the necessary tweaks to fortify the network. It's just a matter of following through on it.
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All I have to say is they better start putting some money into the network or I'm leaving for Verizon.
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I heard that. I hate the network but love the price.
I guess the iPhone would be great for my wife. I definately need more.
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I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G
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I think you meant to say your one of the few people who CAN use 4G lol. I would use it too if I could keep a stable connection lol. Sprint really took 2 steps backwards when they invested a ton of $$$ into Clear. Tisk tisk tisk....
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Same here... 2 words... Droid Prime.
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I think you meant to say your one of the few people who CAN use 4G lol. I would use it too if I could keep a stable connection lol. Sprint really took 2 steps backwards when they invested a ton of $$$ into Clear. Tisk tisk tisk....
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I have the unfortunate luck of living between 2 4G coverage areas.... key word is "between". Im out of range for each and Clearwire is never gonna extend coverage to take care of a 20 mile strip between towers..
I have been getting unusable 3G speeds for the past month. I can't get past 100 kb/s, average around 50-60. Is there anything I can tell Sprint to try and resolve this, or somehow talk them into getting out of the contract without the etf. I have never had a problem with Sprint, but if I can't use anything other than WiFi I shouldn't have to pay for it. I know I am not the only that has these speeds and it should be brought to their attention.
You can just continue to take it. Sprint is giving a lot of us the shaft with poor 3g speeds.
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You can just continue to take it. Sprint is giving a lot of us the shaft with poor 3g speeds.
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I rather not. **** will definitely hit the fan when these millions of iPhone users can't even watch a youtube clip unless they are on WiFi.
Learn to deal with it or hit the Bricks man....Remember you don't have to deal with sprints crap..Just leave and go to another company.
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Learn to deal with it or hit the Bricks man....Remember you don't have to deal with sprints crap..Just leave and go to another company.
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Imagine if everyone had that kind of attitude.
I don't mind Sprint. The point is that when I opened my lines 3G speeds were usable, not out of nowhere they are not. I shouldn't have to pay to cancel a contract when they have completely prevented me from using 3G. I am not the only one. Why should we just bend over and take it? If it wasn't for the persistent efforts of dedicated individuals HTC would have never provided an unlock for boot loaders (as ****ty as their technique is).
I had the same problem and got a brand new phone due to bad motherboard its.worth checking out
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Imagine if everyone had that kind of attitude.
I don't mind Sprint. The point is that when I opened my lines 3G speeds were usable, not out of nowhere they are not. I shouldn't have to pay to cancel a contract when they have completely prevented me from using 3G. I am not the only one. Why should we just bend over and take it? If it wasn't for the persistent efforts of dedicated individuals HTC would have never provided an unlock for boot loaders (as ****ty as their technique is).
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If by attitude you mean thinking rationally and with a little common sense(not directing this towards you specifically).
Sprint is not going to come to your home and put a 3g tower in your back yard so the smartest thing to do is take your business else where..I agree you should not have to pay to get out of your contract but what choice do you have?Either turn forced roaming on and use verizon towers until Sprint cancels your service for you.Or continue to try and get them to waive the ETF
So to keep on topic here..What can you do about 3G speeds? Nothing much really,you either have a good 3G signal or you dont.(barring your phone isn't defective)
Sorry man and good luck.
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As popular as the new iPhone will be. I have a feeling it won't be as popular on the Sprint network as it wasn't on Verizon's
With the speeds being so horrible, and all the problems we've been having with phones and cs, its only a matter of time till I leave sprint. My contract has no etf
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With the speeds being so horrible, and all the problems we've been having with phones and cs, its only a matter of time till I leave sprint. My contract has no etf
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I'm on my way out also. I just ordered another phone with a competitor. I have had enough with sprint dropping the ball and making mistakes and making the customers pay for it. They can keep their $350.00 cancellation fee and all the other upcharges. If the new service works at my house and work, I am out. All these people that keep siding with sprint while being bent over really need to get a grip. I have been a customer for 7 years and to be treated this way is a joke. 3g speeds are nonexistent and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. I rather be throttled than not be able to use my phone as a data device.
I have no 4g and hardly one bar at my house. 3g will only work on the airave. Even after all this they will not let me out of my contract. Even the customer service rep sided with me this morning. Yeah...I know i'm complaining and why don't I just leave. Well paying to get out should not be something I have to do when they are not providing there side of the deal. I have a $100.00 cancel fee and at this point it seems worth it to just bow out. If my other service doesn't work then I will fight till the fee is waived and ride contract free.
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I'm on my way out also. I just ordered another phone with a competitor. I have had enough with sprint dropping the ball and making mistakes and making the customers pay for it. They can keep their $350.00 cancellation fee and all the other upcharges. If the new service works at my house and work, I am out. All these people that keep siding with sprint while being bent over really need to get a grip. I have been a customer for 7 years and to be treated this way is a joke. 3g speeds are nonexistent and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. I rather be throttled than not be able to use my phone as a data device.
I have no 4g and hardly one bar at my house. 3g will only work on the airave. Even after all this they will not let me out of my contract. Even the customer service rep sided with me this morning. Yeah...I know i'm complaining and why don't I just leave. Well paying to get out should not be something I have to do when they are not providing there side of the deal. I have a $100.00 cancel fee and at this point it seems worth it to just bow out. If my other service doesn't work then I will fight till the fee is waived and ride contract free.
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That's exactly what I have been trying to say.
I feel ya and that's your choice..I get 2MB/sec on 3G with Sprint. But if I had the speeds you are getting I wouldn't put up with it,I'd just leave because they can't do anything for you..I'm not lieing to myself and defending Sprint.I have great 3G with sprint so I'm a happy customer and I too know I'm not the only one.
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You can roam on verizon. Went from .1-4 to .9-1.5
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Until they figure out a way to break it at least...
Do what I did and flash the verizon prl, its been fn awesome. I only use it for phone service or checking news sites and what not so maybe they wont notice for awhile
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Do what I did and flash the verizon prl, its been fn awesome. I only use it for phone service or checking news sites and what not so maybe they wont notice for awhile
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Just know, when they do finally notice your done for. Don't say no one warned you.
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Wow I guess I'm lucky I did the http proxy hack and ran 3gTurbocharger script and enabled EVRC-B before the speedtest app crashed I'd get anywhere from .8-1.3 dl and .2-.6 up. Maybe you guys should give that a try
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Wow I guess I'm lucky I did the http proxy hack and ran 3gTurbocharger script and enabled EVRC-B before the speedtest app crashed I'd get anywhere from .8-1.3 dl and .2-.6 up. Maybe you guys should give that a try
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EVRC-B enables better voice quality, no data advantages.
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EVRC-B enables better voice quality, no data advantages.
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Yea I know I was just giving detail.
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Just know, when they do finally notice your done for. Don't say no one warned you.
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Is it really so bad to get kicked off a service that sucks so bad we have to resort to swapping PRL's back and forth to just get it to work though?
Well it seems they are already starting to decommission some of the towers which have IDEN on them it seems.
They are using NO as a test base to then take the results of what happens there to apply nationally starting in April evidently.
This is good news as it shows that they might be willing to move faster than initially stated with the iDEN overhaul as before its always been stated to not start till 2013...This will save them money in the near future and hopefully just hopefully allow them to complete the iDEN transfer sooner than expected and re-purpose the 800MHz spectrum to CDMA(1xAdvance)/LTE...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/06/sprint-nextel-iden-shutdown/
http://s4gru.spruz.com/pt/Sprint-un...site-with-Decommissioning-Tower-Maps/blog.htm
that 2nd link is the original source to the engadget article btw. first time ive seen that site, though it has some interesting information in it.
Nice find man lol been reading up on Google about it
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Nice find man lol been reading up on Google about it
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yeah its not big news as in it doesnt effect us one bit but the biggest thing MIGHT be that they might be getting the whole spectrum re-purpose done earlier than originally planned.
Looks like Orlando, FL and surrounding areas starts June this year. BALLIN!
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yeah its not big news as in it doesnt effect us one bit but the biggest thing MIGHT be that they might be getting the whole spectrum re-purpose done earlier than originally planned.
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Sprint is always slow lmao I still don't have 4G in my area for 3 years none. Tho I think it has been longer than that lol.
thing that got me the most was looking at the map of NO and seeing how many freaking towers they have there. Hell im here in Raleigh and dont even show a 1/10th that many in such a small area. given they have 4x the population we have here thats a ton of towers there imho.
Thanks for the link back to our site. We were the original tech page breaking the story, and almost no one has referenced us except Engadget.
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Thanks for the link back to our site. We were the original tech page breaking the story, and almost no one has referenced us except Engadget.
Robert Herron
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Hey anytime. like i said first time I've seen your site personally and ive been with sprint and around for a long time. Deff looks like you have some solid info.
Yey! !!!!
I hope are phone bill goes down as they start pulling out the awfully stupid decision to invest in a DOA technology like iDen....
Sprint should of gotten the hint: not even its creator [Motorola] wanted it!
/sarcasm /rant
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Yey! !!!!
I hope are phone bill goes down as they start pulling out the awfully stupid decision to invest in a DOA technology like iDen....
Sprint should of gotten the hint: not even its creator [Motorola] wanted it!
/sarcasm /rant
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ha whatever it was great if you used it. Had it way back in the day when I was in high school and managing an amusement park. everyone having nextel was great, no need for separate radios and all that. Tons of people use it in all sorts of industries esp construction. just more ppl use reg cells overall so the need for that spectrum is getting bigger.
Just think if Sprint didn't invest in Nextel, they wouldn't even have that 800MHz spectrum and they still likely would of been outbid for the spectrum VZ got in the auction long ago...
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ha whatever it was great if you used it. Had it way back in the day when I was in high school and managing an amusement park. everyone having nextel was great, no need for separate radios and all that. Tons of people use it in all sorts of industries esp construction. just more ppl use reg cells overall so the need for that spectrum is getting bigger.
Just think if Sprint didn't invest in Nextel, they wouldn't even have that 800MHz spectrum and they still likely would of been outbid for the spectrum VZ got in the auction long ago...
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Lol,
I don't deny it was great, but I sure don't think it was a smart move to purchase the damn thing. I've used it both for work in the military as for personal and those days were fun, I got to admit.
But everyone saw that IDEN was dead weight for sprint because of hosting 2 almost incompatible technologies, they were going to have a single provider (inflation) for network devices and radio equipment and IDEN wasn't being accepted as a world standard and operating in very closed markets; they should of invested in a GSM infrastructure & spectrum and they would of had their money worth something right now.
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Lol,
I don't deny it was great, but I sure don't think it was a smart move to purchase the damn thing. I've used it both for work in the military as for personal and those days were fun, I got to admit.
But everyone saw that IDEN was dead weight for sprint because of hosting 2 almost incompatible technologies, they were going to have a single provider (inflation) for network devices and radio equipment and IDEN wasn't being accepted as a world standard and operating in very closed markets; they should of invested in a GSM infrastructure & spectrum and they would of had their money worth something right now.
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So they would drop their current cdma spectrum for gsm?....that there is a much bigger turnover. I look at the Nextel buy as getting subs and spectrum. Without that sprint likely bought up by VZ long ago imho...
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So they would drop their current cdma spectrum for gsm?....that there is a much bigger turnover. I look at the Nextel buy as getting subs and spectrum. Without that sprint likely bought up by VZ long ago imho...
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I do agree with you, but I do see one big mistake on both Verizon and Sprint. Investing in CDMA technology shouldn't of been their priority. GSM is the global technology which has become the standard world wide. Many countries are starting to migrate completely, e.g.: Latin & South America, EU and more...
It's no secret that the USA is no longer leader in Mobile technology, we have an overall inferior network vs many parts of the world. The US should join the wold in the GSM standard and not resit it.
I've worked in the backbone of CDMA and GSM networks, the cost associated to maintain a CDMA network is higher then the GSM counterpart due to how modular it is and how expensive the interconnection and expansion equipment are.
Just my honest opinion.
megabiteg said:
I do agree with you, but I do see one big mistake on both Verizon and Sprint. Investing in CDMA technology shouldn't of been their priority. GSM is the global technology which has become the standard world wide. Many countries are starting to migrate completely, e.g.: Latin & South America, EU and more...
It's no secret that the USA is no longer leader in Mobile technology, we have an overall inferior network vs many parts of the world. The US should join the wold in the GSM standard and not resit it.
I've worked in the backbone of CDMA and GSM networks, the cost associated to maintain a CDMA network is higher then the GSM counterpart due to how modular it is and how expensive the interconnection and expansion equipment are.
Just my honest opinion.
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Well the cost also has to do with the fact that b/c of so many people using it, that alone brings down general costs for things. Partially reason Sprint switching to LTE over WiMax is that LTE has become much cheaper to roll out now that so many other providers are on board with it....
when you worked in the backbone of CDMA networks you shoulda given Sprints a nice kick in the arse btw as they need it there.
So I just came across a story that I found interesting. Sanford C. Bernstein analyst says that bankruptcy for Sprint is "a very legitimate risk".
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120319-707703.html
That's what happens when u spend a billion dollars on iphones
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Perhaps eventually, but they are a long way from the total shutdown type of bankruptcy. At worst, they'll do a restructuring bankruptcy, but I don't even think it will come to that. They have made some bad decisions, but in the very important metrics of customer satisfaction and retention, they are doing quite well. A company can recover from bad technology investments (Lightsquared, ClearWire). When they start hemorrhaging customers, that's when you really have to worry.
animal7296 said:
So I just came across a story that I found interesting. Sanford C. Bernstein analyst says that bankruptcy for Sprint is "a very legitimate risk".
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120319-707703.html
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It's LightSquared's fault... That, and putting all their eggs into the iPhone basket. But to be honest, it hasn't had a chance to bounce back from it yet.
A lot of people have been thinking about this, but no one has wanted to say it.
Sprint will get bailed out if they were ever forced to close up shop. At&t and verizon are too big to be the only consumer choices.
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Sprint will get bailed out if they were ever forced to close up shop. At&t and verizon are too big to be the only consumer choices.
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This is true. Just as the government's been helping banks.
eXplicit815 said:
It's LightSquared's fault... That, and putting all their eggs into the iPhone basket. But to be honest, it hasn't had a chance to bounce back from it yet.
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it has 0 to do with the iPhone...They already stated they were on track for meeting the iPhone goals much much sooner than the deadline. I think over a year sooner than scheduled...
the thing is the analyst is missing some key things when he went on to spout about spectrum as that is NOT a problem for sprint with clearwire and also their own 800MHz LTE with 1900LTE they will be on par with Verizon at the least bit...
The one thing that is a little concerning is the maturities of the debt due in 2015...Doesn't give NetworkVision much time to show its wings and get more customers...Though with any other piece of debt they likely will not have much trouble rolling that amount to a later date paying a lil more premium...
I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
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I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
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If you've stuck around that long like I have then you might as well wait another year and see the effects of NetworkVision rollouts as they have already started and should greatly help most if not all issues like slow speeds and such...
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If you've stuck around that long like I have then you might as well wait another year and see the effects of NetworkVision rollouts as they have already started and should greatly help most if not all issues like slow speeds and such...
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Well I can say that personally from my experience with the "NetworkVision" rollouts that they have done nothing in my area. They completed 1 data speed upgrade and 3 data capacity upgrades (I live 1 mile from a sprint tower) and they have done NOTHING to help voice/data services. My phone actually defaults to roaming now, so I will just wait for sprint to cancel me.
If sprint wanted to avoid this they should've began their "NetworkVision" rollout before they launched the iphone...Hell they should've done it before they launched the OG Evo 4g. They had NO business having smartphones on their dumb network. Now they are scrambling because people are saying screw it and they are paying an extra $20-$30 a month to go to verizon or at&t.
I really, really hope sprint can make it. But from what i've seen from these tower upgrades they haven't made anything better in my area.
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Well I can say that personally from my experience with the "NetworkVision" rollouts that they have done nothing in my area. They completed 1 data speed upgrade and 3 data capacity upgrades (I live 1 mile from a sprint tower) and they have done NOTHING to help voice/data services. My phone actually defaults to roaming now, so I will just wait for sprint to cancel me.
If sprint wanted to avoid this they should've began their "NetworkVision" rollout before they launched the iphone...Hell they should've done it before they launched the OG Evo 4g. They had NO business having smartphones on their dumb network. Now they are scrambling because people are saying screw it and they are paying an extra $20-$30 a month to go to verizon or at&t.
I really, really hope sprint can make it. But from what i've seen from these tower upgrades they haven't made anything better in my area.
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Those are NOT NetworkVision rollouts that your seeing on that website showing "data capacity upgrade" and such...those are mere lil band aid patches and should not be used in reference to what networkvision rollouts are...the NV rollouts involve a complete revamp of the cabinets and backhaul that will make dramatic differences in most of the troubled areas...
To put in perspective the backhaul changes are all being re-done to fiber or microwave based and the current backhaul is using the ancient bundled T1 based...
S4GRU.com has been putting up the rough rough schedule of the cities being done so far btw...
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xjman said:
I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
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not trying to be rude. just making an observation. the majority of the time i hear of people with bad things to say about sprint's customer service it's from customers that have been with sprint for roughly ten years. i've personally had no problems with sprint at all, but i've only been with them for 2 years. is sprint just not that friendly to it's long time customers?
efan3719 said:
not trying to be rude. just making an observation. the majority of the time i hear of people with bad things to say about sprint's customer service it's from customers that have been with sprint for roughly ten years. i've personally had no problems with sprint at all, but i've only been with them for 2 years. is sprint just not that friendly to it's long time customers?
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no, people just expect more then the average person which is dumb in my opinion, it's like buying a car and expecting it to fill itself up for you, but if the gas pump is crowed then you should be ahead of everyone else just because you want gas -_-, i've been with sprint for 5-6 years now and my parents have been with them for 13+ i've never seen an issue and if there was, either i took care of it or i gave sprint a call for a simple refresh, people that complain about sprint service probably complain about their drinks being too cold at a diner -_-
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Those are NOT NetworkVision rollouts that your seeing on that website showing "data capacity upgrade" and such...those are mere lil band aid patches and should not be used in reference to what networkvision rollouts are...the NV rollouts involve a complete revamp of the cabinets and backhaul that will make dramatic differences in most of the troubled areas...
To put in perspective the backhaul changes are all being re-done to fiber or microwave based and the current backhaul is using the ancient bundled T1 based...
S4GRU.com has been putting up the rough rough schedule of the cities being done so far btw...
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Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
ronartest2005 said:
Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
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In my area VZW has LTE, USC is revamping all towers for LTE rollout, and Sprint still has about 100k download speeds. At the best I see 300k, it's getting old, it's been this slow for almost 2 straight years now. Unlimited....? Sure you can have all the data you can use, it's as slow as a dial up connection, but have at it,lol.
As far as the comment about Sprint meeting the iCrap expectations, yes they are meeting the expectations on selling them, but (and it was posted here somewhere) they are still losing money on the whole iCrap thing and will be for at least 2 years. Just because they're meeting the sales expectations doesn't mean it's making them money.
I was a fan of sprints until i.started consistently getting 70k down the past 15 months, hoping it would get better, hoping....hoping.....never happened. I'm willing to pay the extra dollars for the bandwidth on VZW. What good is unlimited data at a trickle? I'm out when this contracts up. I like sprint, really...but no data speed on a smartphone ain't gonna cut it.
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Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
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Where are ya located?
NetworkVision is going to be complete in a couple years, at least the tower upgrade and backhaul parts with most if not all being complete during next year...
They have already started up in NJ, Chicago, and a bunch others...I wouldn't pay much attention to the network.sprint.com site as the stuff there is nothing releated to the NetworkVision upgrades...
Just for an idea, those areas where you have horrid speed with great signal and its because the tower is over capacity...the backhaul change will make a huge difference.
Each T1 line is capable of about 1.5Mbps and bundles T1 lines is what's used now...microwave based backhaul is capable of over 1Gbps....each is going to microwave or fiber so that's a giant leap in capacity...
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Im sure Verison is happy...
U will be receiving a very special text on 6/7
Very soon LTE launches in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio markets
Sprint is rolling out an all-new network in (your city). Learn more at sprint.us/sat Reply End to stop
to see what hard work goes into lte in general check this out.
http://4g-university.com/
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Nyc please.
I won't be getting it any time soon BUT I like seeing that they are proactively letting folks know when it's happening. Did you subscribe to LTE alerts on the site or something?
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gonna need a LTE/NetworkVision rollout sticky thread at this rate maybe...
here is where the info came from btw...
http://insidesprintnow.wordpress.co...lanta-dallas-houston-and-san-antonio-markets/
its just a txt saying you can expect it sometime this summer. lol
nothing to run home about as none of it is new info at all....they have already stated before those markets are the first ones to "officially" get it turned on and said they would be in this time frame....
If you guys want to really learn a thing about the NetworkVision rollout and tech behind it.......head on over to S4GRU.com and the link in my sig....more info there than anywhere else by far.
I was hoping Honolulu, Hawaii would get it some time soon since we had Wimax pretty early.
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gonna need a LTE/NetworkVision rollout sticky thread at this rate maybe...
here is where the info came from btw...
http://insidesprintnow.wordpress.co...lanta-dallas-houston-and-san-antonio-markets/
its just a txt saying you can expect it sometime this summer. lol
nothing to run home about as none of it is new info at all....they have already stated before those markets are the first ones to "officially" get it turned on and said they would be in this time frame....
If you guys want to really learn a thing about the NetworkVision rollout and tech behind it.......head on over to S4GRU.com and the link in my sig....more info there than anywhere else by far.
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Thousands of employees do receive this memo..... Just sometimes reps are kept out of listings lol so that why your misinformed most of the time by csr..
edit: didn't mean you in particular more as "you" as all customers in general.
Pains me knowing it will be till the end of the year or sometime next year before I see LTE.
Why is Sprint rolling out LTE in Texas prior to Overland Park?
Sprint whyyyyyy?
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Thousands of employees do receive this memo..... Just sometimes reps are kept out of listings lol so that why your misinformed most of the time by csr..
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never said one thing about being misinformed......dunno where you got that from...
just said this isn't nothing to jump about really as its not them saying anything "new" that they haven't already said...more likely its to remind those customers what they said really now that LTE devices are flying out the door and nothing official has been said to be "live" yet.
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never said one thing about being misinformed......dunno where you got that from...
just said this isn't nothing to jump about really as its not them saying anything "new" that they haven't already said...more likely its to remind those customers what they said really now that LTE devices are flying out the door and nothing official has been said to be "live" yet.
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Well didn't mean it in a bad way...Just saying I may work there too
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Well didn't mean it in a bad way...Just saying I may work there too
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/badrun-salam/13/690/a89
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haha yeah in a sense. lol
Ericsson being Sprints full time site maintenance since Sprint no longer does it themselves....
you doing RF i dont even want to guess what you know. lol
My dad used to be a technician for Sprint. He lost his job due to downsizing by Ericsson. It's a shame because he was probably their best technician in the DFW area. Several of his fellow technicians would call him if they needed help.
I'm pretty sure the WiMax roll out is no indication of how LTE will roll out. Sprint used Clearwire's in-place WiMax network as their 4G network. I was lucky enough to already have Clearwire in this area. The only tangible advantage I had was the fact it was faster than public wifi. I don't expect LTE to reach Wichita Falls for at least a year.
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My dad used to be a technician for Sprint. He lost his job due to downsizing by Ericsson. It's a shame because he was probably their best technician in the DFW area. Several of his fellow technicians would call him if they needed help.
I'm pretty sure the WiMax roll out is no indication of how LTE will roll out. Sprint used Clearwire's in-place WiMax network as their 4G network. I was lucky enough to already have Clearwire in this area. The only tangible advantage I had was the fact it was faster than public wifi. I don't expect LTE to reach Wichita Falls for at least a year.
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Sorry to hear that... It's a shame sometimes when great minds are dismissed for a few cents of savings. I know it too well.
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I'm doubting I ever get LTE in Detroit unless I switch to Verizon or att.
Sprint hates Detroit, they put WiMAX in friggin grand rapids Michigan. So I won't hold my breath I just keep looking for WiFi spots when I need to do anything with date :banghead:
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A friend of mine works for Sprint and said they're about 7 months ahead of schedule in the Network Vision for the Denver area, hopefully we'll get LTE by fall...
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A friend of mine works for Sprint and said they're about 7 months ahead of schedule in the Network Vision for the Denver area, hopefully we'll get LTE by fall...
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Ya I heard from several reps the end of August or middle of September here (Denver metro)
Kujila said:
Why is Sprint rolling out LTE in Texas prior to Overland Park?
Sprint whyyyyyy?
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they did the same with the wimax network also. I live in Austin which was one of the launch cities back then. This time around they're hitting all the TX cities around me. i hope that means Austin will be in the 2nd batch of cities to get it.
Come on Florida
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I'm hoping we get it here in Philly soon, I'm missing my 4g already!
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cant wait!!!! im sure lil Rhode Island will be one of the last!!!