Howdy all.. First off i am a bit new with android, but not new to linux and device moding.
I have recently tried the eclipse rom on my dx2 and am very pleased with it so far. The only two things that I am missing are the orig moto task manager and app groups. I have come to use the app groups allot
I would love to be able to add these back. I am willing to do it myself but would like a bit of direction as far as what provides the app group functionality..
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Install go launcher. It supports app groups and has a built in task manager. Plus its free
Although an alternative launcher is an option i find i really like adw or launcher plus.
launcher + on a stock rom give me access to the app groups so i dont think it should be too hard. I was mostly looking for advice on how to go about doing this myself as I would like to learn.
Back to answer my own question in the hopes it would help someone else one day.
All that needed to be done was to put back the original home.apk in system.
Apparently launcher + looks for the default system launcher on that. Really surprised no one could answer my original question.
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Hi,
In anticipation of the great work our devs are doing, like porting vanilla 1.6 to Hero, I wanted to put some stock Android apps on my Hero.
The reason for this is; I like the original Android UI better.
I made a list of which Android apps I would like to have on my Hero, I will update the startpost with added howto's, for the people interested.
Ofcourse, I am not capable of doing 'real dev' work, if that was the case, I would try to help port 1.6 to the Hero. But this is all I can do at the moment and I hope I can contribute this way to the community.
[done]
-Home app: download "home switcher" from the Market
[to do]
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
I think if we work together to make the original apps work, we have a viable alternative to a 'real vanilla' android Hero rom. Also I could be more easy to just modify the original Hero roms; when the HTC branded 1.6 and 2.0 will come out, we will know how to switch the apps, which I anticipate to be more easy than porting the kernel, and rebuilding everything, etc
The following stage would be to delete the old apps, and to make Android as clean as possible.
Ofcourse, only for those who want it. A lot of people love the Sense UI and the HTC apps, and that is good. Android is about choice
Also, I will look on how to change the apps, just comment if you know if a certain app can be restored, and even better, if you know how to.
Thanks in advance, everybody!
E2K said:
Hi,
[done]
-Home app: download "home switcher" from the Market
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yeah, it is way easier to set this through application preferences in the phones settings, nothing so special about that.
E2K said:
[to do]
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
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did you check which of these are modified by htc anyway?
tbh i don't really care for a vanilla android, but afaik at least the camera application is the stock android one even in htc roms...
Yes, I checked all those applications:
In the Application properties you can see that it says "hTC Application" after you press the info key.
And in the application list (from the settings menu) it says "HTC corporation" under all the HTC rebranded apps.
edit: the HTC camera application has a different interface
so does anyone know how to get certain original apps back?
How can i remove the sense interface? I'm on modaco 2.8 but don't know for sure what i can delete
Just try that : http://android.modaco.com/content/h...7/13-08-1-0-modaco-hero-rosie-remover/#entry0
(you can download the zip and see in the rep MANIFEST what the update do and do it in adb shell)
delete SYSTEM:app/Rosie.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Rosie.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcbookmarkwidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcbookmarkwidget.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htccalendarwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htccalendarwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htccontactwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htccontactwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmailwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmailwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmsgwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmsgwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsearchwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsearchwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsettingwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsettingwidgets.odex
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this is what happens for the update.zip, just do a nandroid backup and try it?
i read in some forum that the camera app was identical, sry for that. did you find actual differences in the application, besides from the htc strings?
kendong2 said:
this is what happens for the update.zip, just do a nandroid backup and try it?
i read in some forum that the camera app was identical, sry for that. did you find actual differences in the application, besides from the htc strings?
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Thanks for what what the update.zip changes.
As you can see, it had widget next to everything, which means it only deletes the widget 'front ends' of these applications. It will not restore the stock android apps, like the browser or the music player.
I am trying to contact some Dream-developers/modders as they appear very capable and knowledgeable. They should be able to help us out.
Again, when we learn how to replace the HTC apps, we can have a 'clean' rom in notime, regardless of the android version. For example, if HTC released 2.0, but with sense and all that, we could just delete that, and change out the applications so we end up with a very fast, and clean rom.
I don't have a lot of faith in people porting over/ compiling a fresh, complete and fully working version for the Hero ..
any suggestions
Does anyone know if it is possible to replace the htc apps with the stock google android apps on Hero?
The list in the initial post contains all the apps I need.
I find it strange that this is not possible after such a long time. I would really have my Hero all stock Android. I dont like the HTC approach to things. Why is it so hard to replace the HTC apps with stock Android apps?
Fredriksen said:
I find it strange that this is not possible after such a long time. I would really have my Hero all stock Android. I dont like the HTC approach to things. Why is it so hard to replace the HTC apps with stock Android apps?
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Partly because not all the stock apps are that easy to get, partly because HTC has stuck their brand on practically everything, and partly because if you replace one you have to replace others, else the apk signatures (especially with shared users and other dependencies) don't match. And if we're talking about the Sprint Hero, it gets even worse, because HTC had to modify the core framework beyond recognition, so that it would work with CDMA (so it's possible that just grabbing a vanilla apk, resigning it, and throwing it on there wouldn't work anyway).
All that is just conjecture though, as I haven't tried any of it aside from the Calendar app (gave up cause it didn't work immediately and I didn't have the time). Maybe I'll have time to try it this weekend and see how much can be replaced.
Great explanation, thanks. I miss Windows Mobile (Phone, whatever) where things like these were much easier to adjust without all this hassle.
If you manage to pull it of you will be my ...erm... Hero.
Yeah, the best of luck!
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Partly because not all the stock apps are that easy to get, partly because HTC has stuck their brand on practically everything, and partly because if you replace one you have to replace others, else the apk signatures (especially with shared users and other dependencies) don't match. And if we're talking about the Sprint Hero, it gets even worse, because HTC had to modify the core framework beyond recognition, so that it would work with CDMA (so it's possible that just grabbing a vanilla apk, resigning it, and throwing it on there wouldn't work anyway).
All that is just conjecture though, as I haven't tried any of it aside from the Calendar app (gave up cause it didn't work immediately and I didn't have the time). Maybe I'll have time to try it this weekend and see how much can be replaced.
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did you find out anything?
greetings!
1. I keep seeing MIUI roms pop up all over. Could someone explain to me in plain English what exactly it is? From the screenshots I've seen it looks like the iphone...and there are Chinese iphone clones with (an actual) MIUI os out there right? But these roms are android OS modified to look like MIUI, which is a clone of Iphone? am I correct so far?
2. From the posts I've read, it's still buggy as far as GPS amongst other bugs? Also the UI itself has no app drawer and uses the grouping icons on the desktop like IOS? I've played around with the nephews ipod thouch, and it is annoying as hell...you can't just have a nice clean desktop with a few app shortcuts to say cam/mp3/navi and then a button to access the rest of your apps? It's all there in your face with groups of apps/games taking up your whole homescreen? (again unless you download some mod, which has to run in the background taking up resources) ?
If you have used a miui rom I'd love to get some feedback, before I try to flash one...again it seems to me it's trying to clone an iphone, in which case why not just get one?
I wasn't sure about the MIUI ROM's at first. Slowly they started popping up on almost every device. A few friends ran it on their phones and that's what originally got me to flash it. You are correct in that there is no app drawer. Luckily for me I use folders like none other. It was a pain and still is every time I update, but I am patient and take the time. I just make a folder named "apps" and place all my apps in there! BOOM!!! EPIC app drawer action! It really has started to grow on me. I enjoy the ease of customizing all the theme options that's a big plus for me and I never really messed with that too much on other ROM's. Its so simple with MIUI you can't help your self. Its really pretty slick and I have no bugs to report. GPS werks fine for me and that is something I need to werk. Check it out, it might be for you, it might not. Only one way to find out.
Good luck!
The motorola Atrix has support for the messaging app direct from motorola, the only thing i'm really looking for with it is the universal inbox support. Is there any way of removing the .apk from the base OS? CM7 Runs fantastic in pre-beta #3, but i want to be able to go to all my messages by one press like i can do now. It wasn't only the universal inbox, but the fact that all messaging was grouped under one button.
AWesome, my thread got moved for no reason, This is not a question, its a dev request to pull the app from the stock atrix rom so we can add it to CM7.
The problem is, that it's a Motorola App. CM7 is for those who don't want any Blur or other Skin over their phone. If you really want it that badly, flash a different ROM
hi, i just a bought a motorola Photon for my CDMA number .
im a long time user of Blackberry, and iPhone
i still use my Blackberry 9900 for my GSM number
and traded my iPhone for an iPad
anyway, this is my first ever android device.
so can you guys tell me what should i do with it to make my experience with this platform be better ?
eg:
how to upgrade to latest firmware or software
hot to maximize the phone capabilities
and how to install games and apps ?
please pardon me as i never use any android device before so i'm quite "blind" here
but I'm into tweaking the phone that i had
i've jailbreaked my iPhone and my iPad and i've upgraded my Blackberrys several time over the years , so i guess I'm not so novice in this gadgets world.
i just need some guidance
thank you so much
check out thils link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393519
also when i first got started i watched some of qbking77's videos on youtube. they can help you out a lot. he has videos on unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and even rom reviews. check it out
Mm I highly suggest you download these apps and youll love ur phone 10 times more, go to the market download 4shared mobile, tjen open 4shared mobile and register, in 4shared search adw ex and download it, it may be under adw ex launcher. Then in 4shared search chompsms and download that, 4shared is like limewire but for apks on android(make sure is .apk). A launcher is what handles your home screen and app drawer, adw ex is very costumizable, chompsms is my favorite app for costumizing my text messaging app, but you will have to disable your stock text app in the apps settings so you wont get two notifications for every text. Dolphin browser hd is free in google play, good browser. Also in 4shared for better widgets download beautiful widgets, and for costumizable trigger widgets download widgetsoid from 4shared(i use this widget constantly to turn off 3g, gps, wifi, my led flashlight, screen rotation, all from my homescreen. Themes for adw launcher are in google play.
Granted others my suggest a different launcher sms etc, but these are GREAT apps with very few flaws and give you a much more customizable phone and see some of what android is all about
For games, in 4shared download hyperjump or radiant hd or guns n glory theyre all pretty good games to get ya started! this all may seem like a lot to do but its worth it I promise! Hope I helped give you a running start into the android world its a pretty vast one.
PS: widgetlocker is a great app for costumizing your lock screen! (4shared not googleplay)
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My suggestion would be to first get comfortable playing around with settings and apps on the stock (normal, no-root) version of Android.
Then, if you're still "hungry for more" or curious (and not too worried about warranty issues), look at rooting the stock version. What this can add is user-controlled underclocking (power savings), app backup/bloatware removal capabilities, and some other nifty things. It's worth checking out the "All things Photon" rexxxgg posted to get a few ideas.
The next step up the ladder is unlocking the bootloader, installing a custom recovery, and then installing a custom ROM. It's slightly higher risk than rooting, especially if you're not comfortable with RSD-mode/flashing SBFs (if you don't understand what I'm saying, make sure you read about it!), but also high reward. Custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod and MIUI, are designed to really take advantage of everything Android can and should be, IMO. BUT you really need to do some reading to understand the risks of rooting and ROM-ing first. The phone companies definitely do not have your back once you decide to take the plunge (as you may be well aware with from jailbreaking and such)!
Everything I posted is about as much costumizating you can do without root
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okay thx for the advices
I'm thinking to load a ROM
can anyone give me idea which one to load ?
i want the most stable build
should i flash with STOCK rom or Custom ROM ?
and which version ?
thank you.
which roms?
i liked, shadow, rocko rom, homebase, and cm9. none of these are stock, but homebase is very very close, the others offer more customization!
cm9 is a very stable rom i just love it. joker even got the camera working.
Did you just flash cm9? Or have you been on that for a while?
Hi,
I currently run a Foxhound ROM on my S3 and it serves all my needs really well. However, the e-mail application on the device leaves much to be desired and a quick look at the Play Store has not provided me with any great alternatives (any app recommendations?). I have noticed that the email application that is part of Sense 4.1 is quite slick, and would ideally like to have that ported across to the ROM I use (or get an apk that is ROM agnostic). I have had a look across the various S3 forums and believe the HTC sense framework is required to run such apps, which might prevent such porting. Please can someone confirm if this is accurate? If not, can you please direct me towards any porting guides that already exist? Apart from the email app, I also quite like the look of HTC Sense's dialer, people and contacts app, but I guess email is a good place to start.
PS: I am a new member to the forum, and believe my access privileges prevent me from posting this on the 'Android Development' section
United99 said:
Hi,
I currently run a Foxhound ROM on my S3 and it serves all my needs really well. However, the e-mail application on the device leaves much to be desired and a quick look at the Play Store has not provided me with any great alternatives (any app recommendations?). I have noticed that the email application that is part of Sense 4.1 is quite slick, and would ideally like to have that ported across to the ROM I use (or get an apk that is ROM agnostic). I have had a look across the various S3 forums and believe the HTC sense framework is required to run such apps, which might prevent such porting. Please can someone confirm if this is accurate? If not, can you please direct me towards any porting guides that already exist? Apart from the email app, I also quite like the look of HTC Sense's dialer, people and contacts app, but I guess email is a good place to start.
PS: I am a new member to the forum, and believe my access privileges prevent me from posting this on the 'Android Development' section
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+1 Also, messages app is much better on sense than on touchwiz